Does anyone here play / know how to play 'Epic Card Game?' I've got questions because the battle phase seems super confusing to me.
Question : Let's say that player 'A' is playing against player 'B'
It's A's turn. He attacks with champions that he's summoned. Now, player B gets to respond by using events and powers, correct? Can he also summon a champion at this time or can it only be champions with Ambush?
Second Question : Player A tried to end his turn, at this time player B does events /powers. Because of this, player A's turn doesn't end and he can play events /powers again or pass. Can he also summon champions at this time?
If B does anything, once he finishes all he wants to do (Ambush champions or Events only), then it's back to being A's turn.
So A can attack, play non-Ambush champions, Events, etc. just like normal.
Eventually, A can attempt to end his turn again, cycle repeats. If B doesn't do anything, turn actually ends, B's turn begins.
Lincoln Lee
I see. So I CAN'T summon normal champions when it's someone else's turn, even when I have priority? Unless it's an Ambush champion?
Christopher Turner
That image really clears things up. Thanks
David Flores
NEW QUESTION:
Can I block with champions that are deploying? I've read contradictory things from the official rulebook.
Logan Smith
>They also enter play deploying, meaning they can only block. Like read the rules before asking, i didn't even know the game until 3 minutes ago and i found the answer.
Austin Morris
>Only prepared champions may block. - April 2017 Rulebook
So yeah. You don't know shit.
Benjamin Ortiz
>Champions enter play prepared, with the title of the card on the top. They also enter play deploying, meaning they can only block. so yeah i can read and youcan't (form the rules on the site)
Eli Gomez
Yes faggot, I've read the rules too. That's WHY I'm saying that I've read contradictory rules.
I've read that champions that are deploying CAN ONLY block.
I've also read in the official rulebook that a champion that isn't prepared (deploying) CAN'T block.
That's the confusion.
Chase Smith
>Champions enter play prepared, are you sure you can read user? here is a quick test to find out: If i tell you soemthing is red and also big, meaning it won't fit in a small box, does it stop beign red?
Ethan Bell
Listen man. I know you said you've just found out about the game a few minutes ago so I understand why you'd be making such a rookie mistake.
When you play a champion, it is busy deploying (i.e. summoning sickness from MTG.) That means that it can't attack or use expend abilities. I just wanna know if it can block.
The only champions that are prepared when you play them are the ones with 'Ambush.'
If we go by your logic and say that all champions, when played, are prepared, then there should be no such thing as deployment and they should be able to attack and use expend abilities too, right?
Christian Price
Well if someone still feels like havign real discussio nabout the game, i have been reaidng a bti about the game and the power fo creatures seems very high, how long do games last? Also the fact that 0 cost cards are limited makes me worry that whover draws more has an advantage? Of course just taking a guess since i have no idea how the cards really are, indeed beign able to play two cards instead of one can't be bad. Or maybe i am taking the game too seriously and it's supposed to be casual play only?
ok last try since i was posting again anyway, maybe you are jsut using em to bump, but whatever.
Connor Richardson
I think I understand the problem. Are you referring to an older rulebook?
Here's a screenshot from the same section in the April 2017 rulebook.
i think you don't understand, you mentioned magic so i will use magic to explain, i will rewrite the phrase using magic words and hopefully you get it. Creatures enter the battlefield untapped.They also enter affected by summoning sickness, meaning they can only block. A crteature stops beign affected byt summonign sickness at the beginning of your upkeep.(also the quote isn't form the rulebook, but it's oon the one sheet rules, but the rulebook says the same thing)
Creatures entering the battlefield are both deploying and prepared meaning they can block, but not attack or tap for an effect.
Blake Rodriguez
Ok this is tiring now. Listen, just show me that a deploying champion can block in this rulebook and that'll end it.
Jaxon Evans
is this clear enough or do you want me to email the game designer to believe me? Once again 30 seconds of reading is what it should take a normal person to understand the rule. I hope you will understand it now at least.
Liam Bell
Sure man. That does it.
Tyler James
can you jsut tell me until when you were serious and when you started just trollign me?
Ethan Collins
I honestly still think that the rulebook itself has mistakes.
I still don't understand how the rules say that: "Only prepared champions may block."
While still saying that: "A deploying champion can’t attack or use [expend] powers, but it can block."
A 'deploying' champion isn't 'prepared.' Those are literally opposites in this game.
I dunno man. But thanks for all your effort.
Isaiah Jenkins
This might help you OP. For what it's worth, I play Epic casually and it's lot of fun with the girlfriend. All the cards are strong as shit.
Ian Rivera
>A 'deploying' champion isn't 'prepared that's your problem, a champion can be both prepared and deploying,it's a shitty name choice, but the rulebook clearly says that.
Adam Carter
Yeah, I just read that here as well.
But that doesn't make any sense to me.
If a champion is 'prepared' then according to the rules: "This champion is ready to attack, block, or use [expend] powers with an expend ( ) cost."
But, also according to the rules, if a champion is deploying: "Your champions are deploying until you start your turn with them in play. A deploying champion can’t attack or use [expend] powers, but it can block."
So, how can a champion be both 'prepared' and 'deploying?' If he is deploying, he shouldn't be able to attack and expend but if he is prepared he should be. Those are contradictory statements.
I just... I don't know what I'm missing here.
William Sullivan
Deploying overrules Prepared. That is literally all you're missing.
Noah Fisher
So it's an either/or scenario, right? Either deployed or prepared? Deployed when you play the champion, then on the next turn it is Prepared. That's it, right? How can it be both prepared and deploying?
I know I probably sound stupid right now, but it's an anonymous board so I don't care. I just want some clarifications.
Easton Diaz
Something can be both prepared and deploying. The 'Cannot attack' aspect of deploying overrules the 'Can attack' portion of prepared. That is all there is to it.
Jordan Price
lmao no, overrules means he is both,but deploying has precedence, so if prepared says he can do soemthing, but deploying says he can't then he can't, but if something requitres it to be prepared and deploying doesn't say anyhting about it, that works too. This is the often unwritten rule 0 of all ruelbooks, if soemthign more specific is in conflict with soemthign mmore general then the more specific has priority. This is usually easy to graps and intuitive but unusually stupid people can have problems with it. If a rule says creatures can attack , but a card says creatures can't attack, you wouldn't have problems with it, because you instinctively imply the mroe specific suituation of the card's effect has priority.
Leo Nelson
You know what? Sure.
I still think that the rules are written badly and in an effort to sound different from MTG, they came up with some really iffy wordings.
But, sure.
John Flores
That kind of rule stacking isn't honestly uncommon? Fuck, it's basically identical to Untapped and Summoning Sickness in MtG. You are still untapped while you have Summoning Sickness, but the restrictions from Summoning Sickness overrule the usual state of being Untapped.
Liam Brown
yes, his issue is that someone irl can't be both prepared and deploying. i think people are forced to do so because otherwise MTG can sue them, anyway, remember to give no importance to the names of the keyword, don't try to invent what something will do before reading that, it's a great cause of rules misinterpretations.