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>Thread question What one specific color combination would you consider to be the worst subjectively speaking? Is there one in your local meta that unequivocally proves your choice?
>>What one specific color combination would you consider to be the worst subjectively speaking?
Boros. Has the most weaknesses of any color combo, and doesn't have any breakout amazing Commanders to offset them.
Luis Ross
Clearly stated, but spells/abilities that do not target go on the stack without you having to "pick a target" Your opponent has to respond to that per normal.
Once the spell/ability resolves, its too late for your opponents to respond.
Andrew Lewis
>thread question Personally I hate anything with blue and white but blue green is the ultimate cancer
Aiden Young
Watch out, the Boros babies might come and accost you and tell you Kalemne and Depala are worthwhile and not at all bad.
Luis Evans
>What one specific color combination would you consider to be the worst subjectively speaking? Is there one in your local meta that unequivocally proves your choice? Boros is the worst. And that's sad, I really wish it wasn't, but boros has...
>Bad Ramp Has to rely on artifacts. >Bad CA Outside of Sram Cheerie0s, you're looking at artifacts and wheels. >Dull as shit commanders I've had fun with Depala and Flip Avacyn can do some interesting stuff, but other color combos have more commanders that do better shit. They're not all stellar -- UB was in the dog house until Scarab God delivered it (And SulTaigam came right after), but even before that it was a little better off in the command zone and WAY better off in the 99.
The big advantage boros has ins in mass destruction: It's board wipe tribal, MLD Tribal, Shatterstorm, Tempest of Lights... It can get rid of any permanent type and ALL OF THEM. The problem is that Mardu does it better, adding not only support cards (if that was the only argument everyone would play 5c) but a nice selection of wipes with its suite of Wrath+, -X/-X, and the white-black combo removal like Merciless Eviction. And it does this while presenting commanders that do more and more interesting things than their boros counterparts.
Jeskai is also on notice, it needs a good commander who's not Zedruu (Narset doesn't count; she's strong but not very fun most of the time)
I am completely stuck on what to cut, much less what I need to get back in. I was wanting to making Paradox Engine seem amazing, but I am completely lost. Anyone have any suggestions?
Nolan Martin
So playing an expensive and super competitive deck gets you killed easily in 4/5 person multiplayer.
How do I find the balance between building a good deck and not getting killed first?
Luke Harris
>UB was in the dog house until Scarab God delivered it
UB could do a pretty mean Zombie tribal, especially zombie combo-shenanigans with Grimgrin.
Ryan Mitchell
If only you knew the power of the Jank Side.
Noah Morgan
As long as your opponents have relatively decent threat analysis, you can just play safer and only start to durdle off when you're safe. If you're just the default punching bag then you might just be fucked.
Landon Walker
Run a meh commander that doesn't draw hate
I can run whatever competitive shit I want as long as my commander is garbage and I draw no hate. I pretty much run the partner commanders now just so I can get whatever color identities I want.
Easton Johnson
Marisil is the fucking best. The jankiest combos King, barring Kraj.
Austin Nelson
Let's start it early, post 'em if you got 'em, boys.
Leo Ward
I might need a liste 'cause i don't want to build an Inalla rock-and-combo-move-your-shit-back to-your-hand-and-scoop-while-you're-at-it 'cause no fun
Jordan Turner
>Kalemne and Depala >Not Adriana
legitimately one of my most cancerous and most removal-resistant decks. Also Melee on three players and with around 20-40 tokens is absolutely hilarious.
James Flores
r8, h8, appreci8. Also, to the user who guessed in the last thread, I do like the buttstuff
Brayden Martinez
How far along are you on the WU deck? It's been like at least a week since you posted this with that slot. giving or receiving?
Ayden Campbell
still gotem still postin em
lookin to make a brw politics deck soon cant decide between queen cercei or math man
Brayden Wright
I put together a preliminary list of all the cards I want to put into it and I have to make about 40 or so cuts. I'd be further along than that but I've been preoccupied with school. r-receiving. Pls no bulli. That's my gfs job.
Grayson Hill
Cliff?
Adrian Scott
>getting to 20-40 tokens uninterrupted in the first place Anything can work if your meta consists of garbage
Blake Gomez
Nope, sorry.
Landon Miller
Ah ok, it's just that I have an autistic knowledge of some cards and how to use magiccard.info's search notation that I can build a deck in like an hour on tappedout. Also jesus how do you go 40 cards over Very cute user, does she dress you up too?
Justin Bell
I want to play Artifacts, but I don't think my playgroup would want me to put Sharuum or Daretti back together. I own some cool old stuff like Transmute Artifact, so I was thinking of maybe trying one of the mono-blue commanders. I was considering Arcum, but he seems like he'd have the same problem that every deck that has a tutor in the command zone has, where you mostly end up trying to play the exact same game over and over again. What are your experiences?
Luis Price
Yo!
Jose Clark
>my playgroup won't let me Fuck em user, play what you want But if you did want to stick with monoblue rhen maybe you should try out Muzzio
Lincoln Anderson
Would it be possible to build anykind of Mardu control and it actually be worth two shits?
Parker Taylor
I'm currently playing a Padeem EDH which aims at tutoring darksteel forge, then cheat it into play, then tutor a way to make Padeem an artifact and boom, every artifact you play is both indistructible and hexproof
Xavier Cooper
I start deckbuilding by going to the edhrec page for my commander and/or my commanders colours and shoving every single card I might want to put into the deck into a list on tappedout. Sometimes it works better than others. We're long distance right now but we've talked about it and we're both very interested in dressing me up in cute panties and stockings and collars.
Owen James
Only if your play group isn't blue/green heavy.
Parker Jackson
>play what you want Both Sharuum and Daretti had a nasty habit of becoming the Archenemy, and then winning anyway, so people would complain a lot and drain all the fun out.
I was thinking Padeem might keep a low profile as far as artifact decks go, or possibly even branching out to Solo Silas Ren, since I have a foil Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas I'd like to play.
Samuel Collins
Ah, I usually try to avoid getting too goodstuffy and just stick to a determined theme. You better pose for us if you ever get any cute clothes!
Leo Howard
Honestly a meta with heqvy blue would make it easier for WBR, you can load up on pyroblasts and spell copiers to negate counterspells. Plus you can boil everyone out too.
Christopher Nelson
Tone down on the gay shit and give me recommendations for Ghalta.
Carson Roberts
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Ethan Morris
If you aren’t doing storm with him, I recommend green Selvala, Paradox Engine and Erratic Portal.
Jose Smith
>thread question Boros. It runs out of gas way too much. WoTC fucked up in 2015 by giving them ZERO new tools to improve Boros gameplay outside of command sphere and a couple of reprints.
See pic related for all 18 of their commanders. My biggest issue with them is that tend to cost at least 4 mana.
Aiden Johnson
command sphere was 2014. 2015 was this crap.
Gavin Richardson
>only 3/18 are
William Rodriguez
does anybody here play pauper EDH? is it worth a try?
Robert Myers
No board wipes means the format sucks
Andrew Robinson
Hydra Omnivore Khalni Hydra Primalcrux Stonehoof Chieftain Surrak, the Hunt Caller Terastodon Thunderfoot Baloth Vigor Woodfall Primus Worldspine Wurm
Aiden Nguyen
thot vassel
Jace Cooper
Any spicy tech for Mikaeus, the Lunarch?
Andrew Russell
>What one specific color combination would you consider to be the worst subjectively speaking? Is there one in your local meta that unequivocally proves your choice? boros is objectively the worst combo because it cant draw cards well and has no ramp. everything they have to fix this is on artifacts which are very vulnerable and generally cost a lot of mana
Ayden Green
>No board wipes means the format sucks That just means you have to deal with the cards on the table like a man.
Leo Bennett
>all this boros hate OP here, I just wanted to see what you guys as as individuals disliked not necessarily the weakest, guess I shoulda worded it better. Personally I hate playing and playing against Azorius decks, especially draw,go ones that literally sit there and wipe the board or just dig to find board wipes. One of my friends plays this and literally all he does is play tribal planar cleansing and ways to flashback planar cleansing and counter spells that counter planar cleansing.
Caleb Watson
Would you consider this guy a staple in Green decks or does the mana cost hinder his playability?
Jace Stewart
you're playing green, eight mana is nothing to be afraid of
Jeremiah Myers
If you try to do that, you are going to run out of card draw rather quickly. And there really isn't enough red copies, to reliably out counterspell most blue players.
Justin Garcia
>boros hate Its not hate, its the truth. Its not fun to play when every other color pairing is going super fast and you are super slow.
Thomas Ortiz
I fucking hate Izzet.
Jackson Kelly
I want to like boros, because red, and white are my favorite colors. It just isn't a good pair sadly, so I moved on from it, and if I want that boros feel. It is simply better to play something like naya.
Joseph Young
I fucking hate the players. Its the same special snowflake strategy every single fucking time.
Landon Barnes
Once again my poor diction fucks me, I know boros is the weakest color combo but I don't think everyone just straight up hates WR
Jonathan Torres
If by "deal with the cards on the table like a man" you mean "calculate combat math once a turn and come to the conclusion that it's not worth it to do anything" every single turn, then sure. Enjoy your format.
Ryan Lee
Temur
By far my least favorite color combo to face. Riku of two reflections is probably the most annoying commander I have ever faced.
Angel Nelson
I'd say try a Mardu Commander then. All the speed of Boros with the added versatility of Black to cover its weaknesses. Zurgo Helmsmasher with a ton of board wipes, some Voltron and a Sunforger package sounds like a ton of fun to me.
Jace Collins
It isn't a staple, because there are cheaper green cards that do that better ex. acidic slime. But it isn't a bad card if you have some ramp, and you should as green.
Carson Barnes
Worth it in sacrifice.dec or +1/+1counters.dec but otherwise meh
Mason Hill
do not play arcum he is nuts top tier if he is built right you can become near immortal in under 10 turns
Cameron Jones
least its not rick and morty tier cancer like simic players
Jacob Cox
I have always found a voltron deck to work best if you have blue throw in. Simply for the safety sake of your board state.
Asher Thompson
I found voltron to work better with white and green.
Gavin Jones
Blue green decks in general cause every person I go against just doese the same combo every time
Blake Young
what bro you werent impressed by tooth n nai + deadeye + palinchron for the 4th time this day? it takes so much skill to ramp for mana and cast the card!
Alexander Morris
Bant it is then.
Ian Ward
>based Simic >rick and morty tier, which is what Izzet is Go fuck yourself, Izzet absolutely is R&M.
Hudson Morgan
>hating people for playing something they find fun Wew, glad I am not in a playgroup with you.
Ayden Ward
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Robert Johnson
Good choice. >white has the best ways to find equipment, auras, and enchantments. Plus some cool things like Ethreal armor >green gives ramp and buffs >blue gives you removal and card draw
Eli Wilson
No but sucks when I am going to land wipe to stop that people stop me than stopping the combo from going off
Noah Campbell
bro I don't want to watch some johhny blow his load over his 10 minute combo
Dominic Martinez
>it's not worth it to do anything Not our problem your creatures are manlets.
Andrew James
I bet you'd rather have johnny blow his load all over you
Logan Myers
Then build a deck to counter that. Instead of simply hating them, for doing what they like. Find a way, to make it so they can't win that way.
Gavin James
>tfw sexy alters are way too expensive for what they are >probably also get you strange looks from other players I'd run the fuck out of Sidisi if she looked like that.
Michael Evans
I made these alters for friends like 2 years back, one of them still uses the nylea I made All you need is a junk foil, acetone, qtips, a laser printer and some window decal paper
Yo, can I get some thoughts on this pile of dollar 50 cent coins?
For context, the store I play at has a large amount of new players every year around September, and so I end up playing against precons often. I wanted to start a league at the store witha $35 dollar budget constraint, so newer players arent blown out of the water and to encourage deckbuilding.
Yadda yadda, its Selenia combo, tear me apart.
Thomas Morgan
To far with too little staying power for a Green staple. You need a deck with a bunch of recursion and/or +1/+1 counters to make him work. But when you do, he's a champ.
There's a reason I stick him in with Mike and Trike.
Brandon King
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Liam Butler
Considering a new Zombie deck. Either Sultai zombies (not Sidisi, probably Bananaman), or Ertai the Corrupted.
I just really want to use my Scarab God effectively, but I don't want to be stuck in Dimir.
Sebastian Sanders
Ertai sounds like some spicy fun. Go with that.
Benjamin Scott
Is there a resource or a guide or something? It can't be that simple, can it?
>tfw have officejet, not laser
Noah Price
I've been looking at Ayli for a while, but never got around to actually looking into tech and card choices until recently. Care to share some info about your deck? Maybe a list if you feel generous.
Parker Perez
Muzzio can be fun and isn't as bullshit as Arcum. He gives you the blue you want and he's less degenerate. Win-win.
Liam Martinez
Could you post your Edgar list?
I just picked up his precon and I'm thinking of taking my old Marath deck apart and putting in some of its pieces, like Elesh Norn, boros lands, etc.
Andrew Mitchell
You're just jealous.
Andrew Taylor
If your playgroup won't hate you for it, I've had fun with Zur for my latest zombie deck.
So I've been reading articles on edhrec looking for techs for Newzuri and it was talking about precon syndrome. I had already suspected this, but how do I get better at detecting if it's good or not. In the particular article, the guy was denouncing Trygon Predator because it's too slow compared to Rec. Sage (which I was planning on running anyways). But for my opinion, the Trygon has evasion, meaning it's a good target to pump if you don't have much else going on, as well as not just a one time ETB. There are ways to recycle/bounce the Sage, as well, but I don't see that as a reason to not play the Predator.
I guess what I'm really getting at is how do I get better at identifying what's "good" for a precon deck. The hardest one for me to identify is for Feldon which I plan to eventually get to.
Nolan Hall
>Lightly dampen qtip with acetone, clean off the ink of the foil card >Try not to get any of the acetone on the edge of the card or it'll bleed into the acetone >Don't be afraid to use up qtips as needed or you'll smudge around the ink
>Print out the card art on the window decals, you have to use laser or the ink will just slough off officedepot.com/a/products/212881/Office-Depot-Brand-Inkjet-Window-Decals/ >Print in large batches, don't be a retard like me and print them off one at a time >Cut the decals using a straight line cutter if possible
>Stick it on the foil blank
Henry Ramirez
Man that's crafty, I like this. I was just going to make one of those multi-layered cards for fun but this seems like a better project to take on
Nolan Peterson
Trygon Predator isn't the worst card to have this conundrum over. The general rule of thumb I use is this: 1. If it was in the precon, it's seeing higher play than it "should". 2. It's not conductive to the deck strategy just because Wizards put it in the deck. Newzuri's actually a great example of this, it wants to do like three separate things. 3. Precons aren't full of garbage, either. Some of those cards are good. Over-used, still, but good.
It comes down to personal opinion on if it's worth it or not, but here's the thing. Trygon Predator is shit as a removal card. It doesn't do anything up front, and lacks in-built protection to stick around. It's not going to help you if someone's already set up key pieces, and it's not really that effective if you're ahead.
What Trygon Predator IS good for is being a creature that Newzuri wants to play, having some in-built evasion, and being a good pump target with a semi-decent
Trygon Predator goes in decks like Kaseto, primarily, it's workable and it fits your strategy but far from auto-include in most decks since there are vastly more effective removal options in UG
Brandon Reed
You mentioned the answer yourself as to why Reclmation sage is good compared to Trygon.
>Recycle/Bounce sage
This grants you both more exp counters & more ETBs. You get reclamation sages effect the moment it enters, and you can get its effect multiple times a turn, or even on an opponents turn.
While it does seem good that Trygon is a repeatable effect that doesn't require being bounced/recycled. Trygon can only destroy one thing per turn, has to deal combat damage to a player, and is limited to only destroying something of that players. The amount of hoops you have to go through for its repeatable effect is more work then simply bouncing/recycling reclamation sage. Its much easier to stop a creature from dealing combat damage then it is stopping an ETB effect. As a general response to your question >how do I get better at identifying what's "good"
Creatures with ETB effects > Creatures with on player damage is a pretty general formula. This can be expounded to something even simpler for most permanents
Something with immediate effect > something that allows opponents to react.
The longer something has to stay on the battlefield to matter, the more time your opponents can deal with it and the weaker of a card it is. Generally.
Connor Myers
bleed into the cardboard*
one of the other guys in the group made tokens like that for everyone, it takes a lot longer to do and he went through like a million xacto blades to make em.
I have about a thousand of them and a good setup for cutting thick cardboard for my studio projects so I figured I'd give it a try since I have all the tools on hand already. It's really the matter of making it perfect that has got me driven and nervous, ultimately I'd like to do it with a decent card or one of my commanders but I want to figure out the method with some cheap ones first