Do you prefer Strength or Dexterity?

Do you prefer Strength or Dexterity?

how high of a dexterity stat would it take to vibrate through a wall in dnd

Strength.


dex is a meme.

Constitution.

Usually dex, for the multitude of benefits (AC, arguably better skills related to it) but strength is arguably better in a pure fight sense

But what if that dude is Flash?

If you have high enough strength, you can destroy the planet. No planet, no Flash

I played a char in PF that moved at mach 3 and was literally meaningless to attack, AC, saves, everything but moving from A to B in less turns. In fact people could fire arrows at me and still hit me super easily, or prepare action to hit me when I passed near them, or when I provoke AoO when I passed near them, etc

This, unless I'm playing a fighter or barb, dex is better.

>No planet, no Flash
Actually

Endurance.

Dexterity mostly because it allows for more creative scenarios. What can strength lead to?

>I need to push this rock
>I need to hit this guy
>I need to carry a thing

Climb, Jump and other stuff that can be used in creative scenarios are str based though

In D&D Dex is flat better in almost every edition, as ST provides nothing but damage and relativity pointless encumbrance you can't get from Dex.

in World of Darkness, Dex is just better. ST provides damage.. but so does Dex, and Dex also adds to defense, attack, ect.

GURPS: Dex cost literally twice as much as ST. It's still a bit better, but the margin is more narrow. The ability to stay mobile carrying heavy weight can be vital and ST is also the basis for your ability to absorb damage.

Real life: Dexterity literally only applies to your fingers, and you develop more coordination and agility by training to improve strength then you do with other exercises.

>I kick the mountaintop
>it's now a volcano
>several outlying villages destroyed
>hundreds dead, thousands more missing
>crop fields for miles around buried by superheated mud and pyroclastic flows
>she had it coming, though
No regrets, dexfags.

Acrobatics is Dex.

Read the skills' descriptions you gigsntic faggot

System? because I don't remember climb and jump being inside "acrobatics"

The way I like to consider it is that Dexterity is a force multiplier on Strength. 'Dexterity' is also relatively more dependent on training than Strength, which relies a lot on genetics and diet. Someone that, say, can juggle really well, isn't gonna necessarily win a lot of fights. A lot, and I do mean a LOT, of skills that rely on 'Dexterity' are trained.
Climbing is not fucking acrobatics. Also, a lot of stuff that you can do using acrobatics requires you to be really strong, at least relatively. If you really want to get a ninja, get a tiny guy and train him until he's a buff tiny guy. He needs to have good proportional strength but a low body weight to allow him to do things like hang from his fingers for long periods of time. The low weight is important, because it takes more energy to move a large body, obviously.

This guy gets it
[Spoiler] Still, Strength always [Spoiler]

I prefer a system where STR and AGI are both important in melee, not having to pick one over the other.

Constitution

Charisma

You tell me.

That's entirely unnecessary, random citizen.

I'm both curious and uncertain if I want to know what's happening here.

int

Are you at least remotely familiar with Dark Souls?

Underrated.

Woman with sack on head is Maneater Mildred, a npc that attacks you in Dark Souls, based on the character a dev used to kill people during an early test.

Pic is probably porn that understood maneater slightly differently.

Dexterity is more useful if we take D&D.
Buuuut... I like having a high-strength character. There's something very simple and satisfying about using strength and strength-related skills to bypass problems.
>Well the archer demon you're fighting flies up and perches upon the giant dragon statue's head. You can't reach it.
>You said the statue had one hand lowered, didn't you? Can I run and jump on it, then jump on the neck?
>Fair enough. You can jump after the demon.

Also that one time we circumvented a trapped door by punching the wooden wall next to it.

It's meant to be quite literal even in original Dark Souls lore.

Alright, I'm all for Str Vs. Dex threads and the inane arguments used against one another, but this shit is just a straight up falsehood.

The Flash can Dex so hard he can timetravel. Game over, argument done. No matter how strong you are, no matter what you do, Flash can travel back in time and un-do it faster than you can do it. Remember the first Quest thread? IT WAS ME, BARRY.

Your only hope was to bring up an equally broken STR based character like Goku, who's only real limits are how many fucks he gives.

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But could the Flash beat the Rot?

>Fashion Souls

Actual lore has it as Mildread "eating her out"? Because that's the slightly different meaning I was reffering to.

Literal man eating is cannibalism, you dolt.

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But maneater is a woman who uses and manipulates men just for sex.

>or

That's the figurative meaning.

I understand it can get confusing for phrases where figurative use becomes more common than literal use, but it doesn't change which one is literal and which one is figurative.
The same way you're figuratively autistic, but probably not literally autistic.

Isn't "man-eater" what you use for, say, an animal that has a taste for human flesh? I mean, while we're being figuratively autistic.

Well, yes. And man is (in wider sense of the word) an animal. So once they develop taste for human flesh, we call them maneaters.

>man-eaters

FTFY

>The Flash can Dex so hard he can timetravel. Game over
Nuh-uh, I just need to Str so hard I destroy the time stream with my punches, he cant change what no longer exists.

Then I just need to punch the concept of speed to death and he will be helpless.

Counterpoint: the Speedforce is some magic bullshit.

DEX should be divided into AGI and DEX.
A neckbeard is good with his hands when he plays computer games, but to go outside and run he is pretty bad.

DEX: hand and eye coordination.
AGI: general body movement as a whole.

Something tells me you didn’t actually have a character that reached a movement speed of 6750.

GIANTS
GIANTS
GIANTS

That’s really stupid, your agility is just a ratio of your strength and weight. If you want to be more accurate, your agility would be derived the same way and Dexterity would be left for precision.

Even better would be to change Dexterity to “how well you work with your hands” and Strength to “athletic ability” so that Dexterity is needed for anything accuracy related and Strength for anything involving moving your body less precisely. So Strength would be AC and damage and most skills involving moving, but Dexterity would be for attacks and precise skills like picking locks. Then initiative wouldn’t be tied to your physical ability at all because it’s more about noticing things anyways.

But that’s not really the point in D&D.

Honestly a lot of systems that are more indepth than D&D use attributes like AGI and WIT or AGI and REA to contrast the body dexterity with quick thinking. How each use those two in combat situations is something else though.

I think it's pointless to try to make a d20 system any crunchier, but it works well elsewhere.

I like the RuneQuest 6/Mythras approach of just adding size and power as stats, then making all skills use two stats. That’s the simplest method to handle (especially the two stats per skill) to make things more sensible.

But Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution is probably one of the worst abstractions of the human body around.

>Posts an image talking about STR vs DEX
>The result of that duel is that the dude with more STR has more DEX too

Climbing, jumping and swimming all fall under athletics you godless cuckhold.

That hat should be red, honestly.

STR is good and solid but DEX is funnier...

That webm gave me cancer, dexfags need to be rounded up and thrown of the wall.

>that Shindolesque art sytle

How do you plan to catch the Pascal though?

Strength, I like the style of STRONK more than SPEEDY
Fuck you, Griffith, your plan is too perfect

Dexterity has been my main for a while.

Mostly ranged combatants, which gives me excellent hit chances and good damage with the right feats.

I like how in Starfinder the operative melee weapons can use DEX for your 'to hit' ability rather than strength, still won't do all that much damage but at least it gives my rifleman a decent last resort melee ability.

>bring shield, because what retard doesn't bring a shield
>kick in the face when he does his animu stunt

>dexterity
>improves running speed

lol wut

Couple of amateurs.

"Sir why did you bring a shield to a sport fencing competition? Is that a zweihander? We're going to have to ask you to leave."

"DEXFAGS CAN'T HANDLE ME!"

this looks so incredibly stupid

>thinking he is fast enough to kick the smallsword ninja.
Nice wishful thinking.

if you think about the opposite of being dextrous as being clumsy and uncoordinated then it should have an effect, but probably combined with STR to determine your overall speed

Power, because it's fun to slug people with your FUCKING SOUL.

Dex
Strength is a shit stat in D&D
Oh wow I can be MAD as fuck just so I can wear armor to get the same AC than I would if I had just invested in dex on top of more initiative and a better save.
Even barbarians want dex for that unarmored defense.

Stab him while he is on the ground feeling smug. Don't think the fight is over after one stab.

how does ANYTHING about your fingers help your lug muscles at all

That's more because D&D is a horribly flawed system than that STR is shit.
Personally, BESM got one thing right: You should really have a general Body stat, and indicate what specific outstanding strengths or weaknesses you have with regards to it, like being particular clumsy or having enhanced strength.

Yes. Flash could beat anything, including the things that are established to have beaten him. Flash is one of the less consistent superheroes.

He's a lot like Batman in that regard, except that if someone blindsides Batman that feels more reasonable. Batman should generally be street-level, so the times he goes above that feel impressive. Flash should generally be god-level, so every time he fucks up it feels ridiculous.

Wt ring u got bithc?

Flash isn't Dex, he's a Wizard

>Strength or Dexterity?
QUALITY

She cut her to pieces, ate her, later finds the mc, trys to fight him, loses, they have sex, she gets baby and becomes good
Because it is shindol

>Quality
this
Though I really liked the Estoc in Dark Souls

Con. Str/dex don't mean shit if you can't do enough damage to kill me.

>Stab him while he is on the ground feeling smug. Don't think the fight is over after one stab.
Well, in a ruled sparring, it is.
Besides, why would you say that and post an image of a fight where 2/3 of the duels ended after a single thrust?

Isn't Griffith Charisma-based though

Luck Build is best

You actually can reach futher than that. Is not desirable because implies spending important resources in something completely useless. You don't need more than 60ft speed to be honest, anything above that is a waste.

In 3.5 you could actually even reach near C speed.

>Fresh amputee
Cripple vanilla doujinshi when?

But the next few pages after that is literal cannibalism, she tears the girls heart out of her chest and eats it. She doesn't fuck the girl, she just eats.

It's very in line with the canon, all the way up to where she becomes friends with the player.

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>You can't reach it.
>good thing i have a ranged weapon then fuckface

Nothing about that is Strength unless the guy is using it for AC like some 4e sorcerer.

dex

always go dex

oh hey, it's the guy on the right from the webm

>Back in previous seasons that sword couldn't even do shit against armor
>Now being hit by it is like being hit by an actual sword
I guess it's now magically enhanced

dex, but I still don't like dumping str, at least on anybody who is still even partially a martial, and on men in particular I don't like less than 11-12 strength

now, admittedly, playing a high strength fighter makes things very simple in a satisfying way

but both aesthetically and mechanically, I prefer guys who are fast and agile and precise

>and you develop more coordination and agility by training to improve strength then you do with other exercises.
yes, strongmen competitors are known for their speed, agility and flexibility
likewise, all acrobats xbox hueg

>real life
No. As a kick boxer I can tell you honestly, and truthfully, if doesn't matter how much you lift or how muscly you are- everyone gets the shit kicked out of them their first day. If you don't know how to move, your strength is wasted and your defense is horrible.
In real life both stats are important and favoring one over the other only builds weaknesses. You need to be well balanced to be the best you can be.

>MAGA
>Make Autism Genuine Again
I can see it catching up

"Untitled" my ass, he's the world champion!

>how does ANYTHING about your fingers help your lug muscles at all

Dexterity can refer to more than just your fingers. "Manual dexterity" is your skill at using your fingers, "dexterity" usually refers to manual dexterity, but could also refer your general coordination. Most RPGs treat it like that.

You're jumping to conclusions way too fast, maimed limbs don't always guarantee the happy end.

I'm genuinely bummed it stopped at reunion before the fog, I would love to see how he draws Quelaag.

Shindol already made one you plebeian