You walk into a nice deli. You order two sandwiches: a turkey club and a pastrami on rye.
The turkey club is good, delicious even, but the pastrami...isn't. The bread's a little stale, the mustard is thin. There's no pickle. It's not a BAD sandwich, but next to the turkey it's a little embarrassing.
You go to the counter and ask if you can maybe have a fresher sandwich. No one at the counter responds. They tell you they understand and they'll do better next time.
You come back the next week and order the same. The turkey club is, again, exquisite. If anything it tastes even better. But the pastrami on rye hasn't changed at all! It almost looks like the exact same sandwich you ordered last week!
Frustrated, you go back to the counter again and ask for service. No one answers. Everyone is too busy making more turkey clubs, and more variations on turkey clubs.
The other patrons of the delicatessen laugh at you and tell you to go to a different shop if you want a decent pastrami. Then they go back to eating their turkey clubs.
Christian Moore
The feats seem kind of boring mostly. Though I guess they're trying to avoid powercreep.
Cooper Thomas
Maybe it's how big his hands are compared to his face.
Charles Perez
>liking pastrami
Fuck off, turky club master race.
Dominic Ramirez
What would power levels and balance look like if things like Superiority and Bardic Inspiration didn't actually use dice, and you could just use them at-will?
Bentley Brooks
Jokes on you, I'm a new DM and basically winging it in our ToA game, and also including lore from other game systems and worlds so my players can fulfil their individual quests. My aim is for my friends to have fun and they seem to be having a blast.
Jaxson Price
>Food metaphor Also, is this talking about casters and martials?
Lucas Howard
Hair, beard, leaves suggest strong wind blowing on him.
Cloak billowing forward.
Carson Hill
How does one protect him/herself and one's equipment from rain in pseudo-medieval fantasy settings?
Liam Miller
They ask how youd make a better sandwich
You tell them how they do it in a different deli with close to zero patronage and a history of failure
They respectfully decline
Nicholas Watson
Bards would be beyond busted. Inspiration dice are powerful, that's why you don't get a lot of them. Infinite superiority dice would also be op, though not as much.
Jackson Howard
Do murricans really do this? Go to a shop for a goddamn sandwich? Sandwiches are the easiest foods to make, period.
Thomas Nelson
>D&D is only successful when casters are better than martials just drop the metaphor and spit it out user
Liam Hall
Cloaks. What a dumb question.
Xavier Thompson
Actually I tell them to make the pastrami they had when they were performing taste tests that I loved.
Cameron Phillips
There are sandwich shops in more places than murrica, you know.
Jaxon Hall
The new way you filter spells on 5etools sucks shit, and they should really go back to the original.
Nolan Perez
have you considered it might indicate you are wrong about martials
Nolan Turner
I was some people shitting on the Redemption Paladin last thread. I've been thinking about making a Paladin with thematic similarities to this archetype. Is it a bad idea? What's wrong with Redemption Paladins?
Carson Foster
Half human playable race when?
Angel Taylor
There’s a solution there. Either make the food yourself or go to a different deli, both of which I’m guessing were answers given to you before now. Sure maybe the deli’s convienient because it’s nearby, but your refusal to even try going to other places because of your obsession with this one deli mostly shows you care much less about quality over convienience.
Dominic Robinson
that's what half elves and half orcs are.
Hudson Bailey
How does divine soul sorcerer look, too strong, too weak?
Brody Edwards
The archetype is inherently hypocritical and contradicts it's fluff. It's all about stopping violence... Occuring against YOU and your party, but you're perfeclty fine with slaughtering your enemies. It wasn't always like this - but all the thematic and meaningful features about it were stripped before the release.
Ayden Robinson
pale yellow and surrounded by a thin dark line
Jacob Walker
>I was some people shitting on the Redemption Paladin last thread. I've been thinking about making a Paladin with thematic similarities to this archetype. Is it a bad idea? What's wrong with Redemption Paladins? Nothing. The class is cool and you should play what you enjoy.
Julian Ramirez
he already said he tried visiting the other deli until the gestapo came and destroyed it along with any recipes for how to make the sandwich the way they did
I still have my copy though and I hear you can get some online in shady underground places like Ebay and Amazon
Nathaniel Jenkins
I've only ever seen a "sandwich shop" at bus and train stations for the traveller on a budget around here. That and Subways, but barely anyone ever goes there.
Liam Williams
Just give me plain half human so I can just be spawn of anything.
Ian Hill
How do I best use a broom of flying without abusing it too much and without killing myself? I'm playing a wild magic sorcerer and I'm not quite sure how to handle it.
Easton Morales
Waxed cape
John Hernandez
>Hypocritical Only if you play as an hypocrite. I mean seriously, the whole class is about sparing enemies and some of the high-level features don't work if you attack your enemies. Of course you're going to kill things that are literally made of evil, but everything with a soul should be spared.
Just plain "half human" is never going to do justice to the other half.
Jaxson Myers
user recently wrote a good post that sums everything about it up. Here's what he said.
>Redemption Paladin, a character whose power comes from the ability of choosing peace >It comes from a deeply martial class, so every time you picked peace, it was a meaningful choice. >You chose to believe in peace so even though you *could* use armor, you don't, and so you'd get to add Charisma to your AC >You could use great swords and pick up GWM but you choose not to, and instead you can even knock sense into people who have yet to learn what real violence looks liks >You could use those spell slots to SMITE, but you don't, so instead you get to fuel Shield spell >Your Channel Divinity lets you be even better at solving things peacefully
You had a character who could really be "CONVICTIONS" man, someone who thrived when things were hard *because* they were hard and protected his enemies as much as his friends, and protected his friends from becoming just like their enemies
Instead we got this waiffy faggot who is actually all for violence and cruelty when it helps *his* side
Anyone that chooses this for the wet blanket factor, I want to spit on
Isaiah Sanders
umbrella stone, put it in your pocket and an invisible dome hovers above you that lets everything but liquids pass through it
Lucas Reyes
haw haw haw
Jaxon Sanders
martials vs casters debate can stop when casters admit they like being the best and don't want martials to be good ever
Daniel Taylor
Use your imagination. It responds to command words to move it around independently without a rider. Use it for creating distractions, carrying inventory, attach a rope to it and fly it up a cliff to create a hold for the rope, hang off of it Mission Impossible style to fly over over an ancient artifact surrounded by traps.
Unrelated. How to best flavor a magic item that can cast Tenser's Transformation once per day?
Wyatt Turner
has anyone uploaded a full pdf of xanthars yet?
Christopher Nelson
yes
Cooper Davis
great! where can i find it?
Justin Torres
Online
Anthony Collins
Gee, user, I don't know, where might you find a 5e pdf
Nolan Gutierrez
Paladin of mediation when? Someone have to be out there stopping good and evil from waging all out war. Human half is never done justice either.
Warlock mystic arcamun are just unchangeable spell slot that scale like other spellcaster. If you exclude those, they have the least feature.
Jayden White
There isn't really anything about a Redemption fluff that can't also work perfectly fine with Devotion. Remember that reincarnation is totally a thing in D&D, so killing bad guys can be a perfectly valid way to save their souls. Hopefully they'll learn their lesson and be good next time around the Wheel. E.g. I'm not actually smiting these undead, I'm "redeeming" them!
Ian Ward
of course, how obvious. where online should i look?
Christopher Watson
Trove link is in the OP. It has all the pdfs.
Sebastian Jenkins
just admit you want us to play 4e
Luke Morales
ah thanks, didnt know it was that kind of trove.
Evan Bailey
>just admit you want your class specialisation to be everything
Dylan Ward
>Pickles Also using this analogy there were a bunch of people who were complaining that the pastrami was TOO fresh, and that they wanted a staler bread.
Grayson Scott
Tieflings, aasimar, and genasi aren't half-breeds though. They're mostly humans with traces of planar ancestry. For example, a half-demon is specifically a cambion, and is way above the power level of your average tiefling. Those races are more akin to TES Bretons or Yuan-ti purebloods than true half-breeds like helves and horcs.
Luke Lewis
theres nothing wrong with or stopping you playing 4e
you can leave and we won't stop you
Charles Smith
Reminder that WotC is so out of touch they thought Lore Master was in a state even remotely close to being test-worthy.
William Gutierrez
Some places actually do serve certain sandwiches with slightly stale bread. It has a different texture or whatever that works for certain things.
Chase Walker
I don't want to play 4e, I want to hear you say you're happy with caster supremacy.
Nicholas Brown
Could I have some free reaction or skill that come with martial weapon? A thrust, sweep, bash, parry, block, or even counter. Just a different attack all together.
Bentley Ross
>By choosing not to wear armour and promote peaceful negotiations, you become harder to hit >Implying you shouldn't become easier to hit >Go around clubbing people conveniently unconscious though you could already do that with any melee weapon anyway >Trying to make peace with shit like beholders and devils and the definition of evil itself >The abilities were more themed about 'an eye for an eye' rather than forgiveness and redemption >A villain could literally throw an innocent peasant at you using your level 20 ability and you are FORCED to kill that peasant Redemption paladin was and still sucks but redemption paladin is a bit better now. Tranquility monk was way better.
Asher Cook
Tiefling is according to XGE non human parent chart.
Jackson King
Well at least one parent isn't entirely human.
William Gutierrez
Mearls pls go.
No one liked the fucking tranquillity monk when it was released, and no one likes it now that it's a paladin.
They already stated that they prefer to release overpowered things and nerf them after feedback than releasing them underpowered and buff after feedback
Nolan Hill
Pretty sure everybody loved it aside from the people who loved the poorly designed other archetypes for monk like 'Sanic the Drunken Hedgehog' monk and 'Why am I not doing as much damage as the fighter?' Monk
Camden Long
I've never played 4E and I never fucking will. Martials should have more options available to them outside of playing "Mother May I?" with the DM.
Samuel Jenkins
Nobody likes homebrew, user. Nobody.
Brody Cook
Tranquility monk fits the pacifist theme so much better, as well. The whole point of being a paladin is smiting the guilty; they are not and never were supposed to be "kind & gentle hugbears." Tranq monk made perfect sense for that archetype though. But with redemption pally being in such a weird fluff place and also stealing a bunch of tranq monk features, I'm pretty sure it's dead. Which is a shame.
Jace Williams
Give me reasons a Hexblade wouldn't use weapons.
>Your patron makes sentient weapons, and only lets you wield weapons if you have their consent.
Landon Johnson
I would have thought human and demon would spawn cambion instead.
Michael Lewis
>A villain could literally throw an innocent peasant at you using your level 20 ability and you are FORCED to kill that peasant AHAHAHA THAT'S GREAT
but for real that situation would never come up
Connor Brown
>everyone loved it Go back to complaining about bonus actions Mearls.
David Reyes
Is this a trick question?
Ayden Cooper
No, Cambion are 1st generation half daemons.
Samuel Cooper
I agree, good sir! You guys shouldn't be so hard on Redemption Paladin, the dev team of DnD 5e (TM) delivered a qualtiy product.
Nathaniel Cox
Because you can instead channel their power into curses and eldritch blast them instead?
Andrew Fisher
The player is a munchkin who want to play laser-pew-pew.
Adam Hughes
>not knowing the keyboard shortcut for ™ Neck yourself, sempai®.
Luke Green
Is there a good list of changes that were made between the Unearthed Arcana and Xanathar's Guide? Or is it all just copy-pasted?
Nathan Gutierrez
maybe you are the problem
try talking to your dm or just play a barbarian
Jonathan Morales
If I can just be real for a second I honestly think the 5e team has delivered a number of high quality products.
Brayden Cooper
>I want martials to have options >"that's a problem"
Dominic Murphy
Off the top of my head divine sorcerer doesnt just get the whole cleric spell list anymore, you have to use your spell replacement upon leveling up to get it. Arcane archers dont get +1 magic arrows till level 7, and they aren't +1 anymore.
Easton Rogers
Martials are fine and the game should never be played above level 10
Julian Diaz
What fucking idiots playtesting this material thought Arcane Archer was too strong?
Brandon Stewart
They have, but some people just can't go for a walk without purposefully stomping in every dog-shit on the road.
Xavier Gonzalez
Game should never be above level 3.
Bentley Morgan
>divine sorcerer doesnt just get the whole cleric spell list anymore It does get access to all cleric spells
Daniel Myers
I'm not so sure, though. I mean, it could so easily happen accidentally. >drunk guy attacks paladin on the street, totally unprovoked >dies from radiant damage backlash >paladin is crushed by the guilt of violating his oath of innocence The redemption paladin is going to have to spend all of his free time intentionally attacking and missing every single citizen every time he visits the city.
Carson James
Would the game be fixed if we just renamed the attack action depending on your class/weapon
This sounds like something a small-dicked AL DM would try to pull out of spite.
Jeremiah Smith
Where to buy cheap minis?
Jace Edwards
Law of the Cosmos
Isaac Fisher
I go though various second hand papers, got myself nearly 12 pounds of ral partha, D&D and other metals minis for little more than a mega pizza.
Luke Johnson
Neither. It's order in general.
Angel Flores
5e got rid of my aversion to D&D that has lasted for almost twenty years now.
Fuck that Beyond shit though. Whoever came up with that idea needs to eat a bag of dicks and choke on it.
Cooper Sullivan
More or less. But it just illustrates the problem with a class that's supposed to be about peaceful intervention and non-aggression having a permanent damage aura that they can't turn off. At level 19, they can turn the other cheek, subdue the guy, teach him the path of righteousness. At level 20, the guy gets radiant damage to the face, no exceptions.
Nolan Morales
Games should never go above level 1.
Aaron Morgan
Can anyone think of some legit reasons a good-aligned character might want to seek out immortality?