>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android: >Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA
>So Blood Angels, Blood Ravens and Dark Angels are the same chapter some sort?
Hunter Lewis
1st for GW having to restate things for autists
Christopher Sanchez
Any way to improve this list cheaply? inb4 buy 120 painted boyz on ebay - plz no
Vanguard Detachment +1CP (57 PL, 999pts)
HQ Warboss: Attack Squig, Big Choppa, Kombi-Rokkit
Troops Boyz - Boss Nob: Big Choppa, Kombi-Skorcha - 2x Ork Boy W/ 'Eavy Weapon: Big Shoota - 17x Ork Boy W/ Shoota
Elites Nobz - Boss Nob: Ammo Runt, Power Klaw, Slugga - Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga - 3x Nob: Big Choppa, Slugga Nobz: Cybork Body - Boss Nob: Ammo Runt, Power Klaw, Slugga - Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga - 3x Nob: Big Choppa, Slugga Painboy: Power Klaw
Heavy Support Deff Dread: 4x Dread Klaw Killa Kans - 3x Killa Kan: Skorcha
Jaxson Moore
8th for Genestealer Cults
Oliver Baker
Much like the transition from Kirby to Rountree, many things will get better, but they are still spending a fortune on the little things.
Gabriel Bell
Whats the biggest possible axe i could feasibly convert for my WE chaos lord? I want him to have an outrageously large Axe he can swing at people.
Mason Garcia
Guys!
hear me out guys
You ready for this shit?
aight
okay, so
harlequins
with polka dots instead of diamond patterns
Liam Russell
And they killed RFK
Jose Powell
Anons help
I thought I had my list finalized but then I started looking at Flesh Hooks and thought they might be a good idea. Should I replace Barbed Stranglers with Flesh Hooks on my Warriors or keep the Barbed Stranglers?
James Adams
Polkageists?
Ryder Baker
So Blood Angels, Blood Ravens and Dark Angels are the same chapter some sort? The Blood Angels are not Chaos, the blood ravens are a split group and the Dark Angels are the Chaos version of the blood angles
Brayden Davis
Solid clarification. I'm kind of surprised by how straight forward it is
Charles Miller
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Jeremiah Rogers
Preach it brother
Jaxson Cook
Buy an actual axe
Justin Ward
>I'm kind of surprised by how straight forward it is
It clearly wasn't if we had the TSons issue in the previous thread.
John Flores
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Liam Cox
>Ynnari pretty much squatted
Grayson Martinez
>Dark Angels are the Chaos version of the blood angles Fucking confirmed.
Andrew Wright
One of the three from the plastic Bloodthirster kit.
Xavier Adams
see
Kayden Howard
Explain
Dominic Sanchez
grimgor's model had a fun one
Aiden Carter
Wow your models are great!
Mind if I have a look?
Carson Lopez
But blood ravens actually exists in the 40k universe beside from the dawn of war series? So i don’t want to play a green army, but maybe another traitor legion maybe?
Justin Ross
>warhammer-community.com/faqs/ Page 76 – Strength from Death Add the following paragraph: ‘Matched Play: If you are playing a matched play game, a unit from your army cannot make a Soulburst action if a friendly unit has already made the same Soulburst action during your turn. In addition, units from your army cannot perform any Soulburst actions during your opponent’s turn.’
Josiah Wright
>the bait is evolving
Alexander Thompson
Yes, you may LOOK.
David Hernandez
Oh god i would do this if it wouldnt take for ever for me to convert the fucking Bloodthirster hands off the greataxe
Has anyone here had success running a wraith heavy army? Like 2 squads of wraithguard and 2 squads of blades with a lord kitted out as long range support.
Cameron Ramirez
Sorry man, I'm taking the piss out of you. All the chapters you listed are loyalist chapters, there's just an on-running joke that the Dark Angels are heretical because like half their dudes did defect and they kept it a secret. There's plenty of not-green Chaos Marines. >Word Bearers >World Eaters >Iron Warriors >Thousand Sons >Night Lords >Emperor's Children
To name a few.
Charles Ortiz
It bugs me more than it probably should how they said Space Wolves magic is from some power of Fenris.
I liked the way they mirrored Thousand Sons, ignorant of the source of their power, but thinking themselves masters of it, and they got rid of it for nothing.
Leo Morris
it means Ynarri have taken the nerf crowbar to the teeth
Josiah Morris
It upset furries that they were as bad as the people they forced into becoming traitors.
Robert Moore
>8th is great its so balanced and the bestest! >oh shit they nerfed my faction fuck this game sux
Jonathan Williams
Just remove those parts of the haft and enjoy your Dark Souls hueg greataxe.
Kayden Gomez
>It bugs me more than it probably should how they said Space Wolves magic is from some power of Fenris Is that what happened? I thought it was just Fenrisian beliefs affecting the Warp around Fenris.
Nathan Thomas
I'm reposting this themed Tyranid list I came up with. What do you guys think? It's not meant to be competitive but I think it would be a blast to play, especially against another fluffy low model count army.
The Warrior King's Court - Hive Fleet Kraken - 2000pts - Battalion and Outrider Detachments.
The King - The Swarmlord (Catalyst, Onslaught) - 300
The King's Adviser - Malanthrope (Chameleonic Mutation) - 90
The King's Champion - Dimachaeron - 200
The Prince - Tyranid Prime (Adrenal Glands, Bone Swords, Death Spitter) - 108
The King's Banner-men - 4 x 6 Tyranid Warriors (Adrenal Glands, Flesh Hooks, Bone Swords, Death Spitters, 1 Venom Cannon) - 780
The King's Heralds - 2 x 3 Tyranid Shrikes (Adrenal Glands, Bone Swords, Death Spitter, Flesh Hooks) - 216
Alexander Bell
I was really looking forward to 8th edition being full of more durable things so you don't get shot off the table turn one, and things live long enough to fight in melee. Instead it's the same as it ever was and in some cases faster thanks to Smite and infantry guns being able to hurt high toughness targets. Melee still shit and even more shit since people can just walk away. Getting games past turn 3 against good opponents is hard.
John Adams
It means "If my units can't activate during your phase then maybe I'll play Tyranids".
James Lewis
reee why can't I rape people in their own turns
Bentley Parker
Making each action only usable once per turn is something I can see as a reasonable balancing measure. Making it during your turn only effectively removes the trait completely for any ranged unit, thanks to the 7" restriction. I bet reecus is to blame for this
Jeremiah Anderson
So soulburst is now 'SOB faith powers but worse'?
Brody Stewart
>shitty nu-(((Lore))) fluff >WAACfag list based on strongest hive fleet >boring named characters
Fuck off.
Colton Jackson
More like "Here's a big reason why I played an army, but now it's gone"
Isaiah Mitchell
I like it. But I wouldn't run it myself since I love my gaunts Also, post nids. I lost my folder
Lincoln Thomas
So if i buy Burning of Prospero and Betrayal at Calth, I can make a working 40K Space Marine OR traitor marine army out of the boxes?
Jackson Miller
You have no idea how happy that makes me. Fuck Ynnari. They were a shitty cash grab at the end of a shitty edition, anyway.
Ryan Torres
Maybe it's because I'm still learning, and I'm not even that guy, but why the fuck are you so butthurt?
Chase Edwards
>Q: Can Characters only perform a Heroic Intervention against enemy units that charged this turn, or can they do so against any enemy unit? >A: They can do so against any enemy unit.
>Note that they can only do so if they end up closer to the nearest enemy model, whether it charged this turn or not.
This basically means any character has a 3"" free charge, thats fucking amazing! Now the BT relic is much better as you can get a free 6" charge as long as they have enemies in range.
Jeremiah Jones
>Court of the Nephilim King naming scheme >Kraken Oh you!
Wat
Joshua Sanders
You can do whatever you put your mind to.
Chase Cook
Fuck that, I'm happy just using the indices. I don't even plan to buy any new models for a while until I've made progress on plastic-mountain over here, so I don't even need new rules. Every edition should start this way.
Also, LOL@ "carry both the codex and the index around with you, because we left out some options in the later publication".
Say what you will about Mantic, but at least I only need one book to play the game, and me and my opponent can use the same one.
Gavin Lee
Only issue I have is the Chameleonic Mutation being on the Malanthrope which natively you can't shoot as it is a character under 10 wounds. Would put it on something else instead.
Fuck off with your gonard opinion. WAAFag lists for nids is spamming genestealers, learn what is bullshit and what isn't. You sound like someone who ate glue as a child and never stopped.
Carson Turner
Are you even trying Carnac?
Easton Perry
You need mobility and/or protection for your Nobz. Give the nobz perhaps a weirdboy with Da Jump, or a vehicle. Preferably a trukk or melee kitted battlewagon, because if your opponent has good deal of autocannon tier weapons with D2 your nobz will melt within seconds. The trukk or battlewagon will take the most beating before your nobz, which is vital considering you want them in melee where they actually do something other than die horribly.
I'd take a weirdboy or two and then just 'port the Nobz to enemy's face.
Liam Roberts
What about spamming gaunts?
Ayden Allen
LOOK WITH YOUR EYES, NOT WITH YOUR HANDS!
Nathaniel Evans
>tfw 3 shooting attacks each turn
Sebastian Bennett
It wold be a dream to fight your army user. I run Imperial Guard with tons of Bullgryn and Characters and random Inquisition and Ministorum melee units. It would be a mess of melee that would take like 4-5 hours to play.
Samuel Baker
How did you know?
Jacob Clark
Pretty much.
Zachary Garcia
I think they maybe over did by taking out the out the soul burst in the opponents turn but we'll see. Vanilla Eldar are pretty powerful anyway so it might be a good balance
Jaxson Nguyen
>Imperium and Chaos soup dominate the competitive meta with a hilarious lack of any downside or restrictions >Better kneecap Ynnari!
Maybe the elves should've invested in pauldrons.
Charles Martin
Does Intervention count as charge?
Josiah Reed
Gaunts are okay but, stealers + broodlord is just face eatingly good. Gaunts just has the issue of they are weak, don't move as far, have worse saves, don't have a model that buffs their melee models passively, and don't have a 5+ inv save. So while Gaunts can choke up a board, for the same points in Stealers you can do more, throw in lictors or go jorm with some raveners and you can pop up anywhere for maximum coverage.
Joshua Torres
we've been doing this dance for how many months now? At this point you should get a tripcode
Blake Gomez
What did they do to ynnari?
Sebastian Morales
Nerfing them will come soon enough. Time to play my mixed lists while I can before I can't take all my favorite models at once anymore.
Luis King
>want to run a shooty/anti psyker Kronos fleet >but also want gotta-go fast genestealers
Michael Brooks
>dimechaeron >tyrant guard >warriors >shrikes >tyranid prime >WAAC I fucking wish
Xavier Jenkins
I guess so yeah. Plenty of marine bodies for Tactical squads or Chaos marines. Maybe even Sternguard/Chosen. Ton of Missile launchers and Heavy Bolters for Dev/Havoc squads. Two different types of terminators, and you can mix and match for Chaos since there's no distinction between marks. Contemptor Dread that works for either. Plenty of stuff to make HQs out of, or just use one of the characters.
Nathaniel Miller
we don't know a (A)Eldar(i) soup is going to look like yet, but Ynnari definatly need the nerf. If they've gone too far they can always back peddle a little now that we're getting regular updates
Samuel Moore
>chaos soup and Imperium Well not quite, it’s like 4 units from each army just spammed over and over again. Maggie, mort, Malefic lords and brims (with Knights and changeling of course!) versus guilly, Celestine, a bunch of ASSCAN razorbacks, culexus, and Stormravens.
Ynarri were doing really well though and it’s an easy fix, these on the other hand require a lot of effort and point fixes.
Mason Flores
The struggle is real. All I could think of for it is using Lictors to deploy Genestealers in close to simulate the gotta-go fast and the rest of the army be purely shooty.
Nathan Flores
Can't activate during your opponent's turn or use the same ability more than once per turn.
Grayson Green
No. Fuck them. It was always a shitty meme faction that was pure pay 2 win because you needed the HQs and could cherry pick the best of 3 factions.
Or maybe GW is realizing that soup was a mistake.
Isaac Cook
Their special rule, which lets them attack or move outside their normal phases, soulburst, was severely nerfed. They can't use soulburst more than once a turn, and can't use soulburst during the enemy's turn, now.
Zachary Diaz
>MFW I have a Ciaphas-Cain-as-Creed imperial guard army
Why is this edition so fluffy
Andrew Allen
>Ciaphas Cain You better be running half-female Valhallan army.
Michael Morgan
for user who wanted to know if Haines would do an AMA, the hive mind provides
Jason Brown
Andy Chambers on Death Guard/Nurgle.
Agree?
>Yeah it's like they haven't locked onto a decent archetype to make them stick. Possibly I would enhance the 'jolly' side of Nurgle a bit more and route that through the Death Guard, get some Killer clown/Juggaloo imagery going on. Are you horrified yet?
Colton Cook
If cheese was a big reason for playing an army you should reconsider you reasons.
Austin Perry
Do Genestealer cults get access to everything in the Imperial Guard codex or is it just troops, chimeras and sentinels?
Jonathan Lopez
I do indeed have female models but I can't take Jurgen as an actual bodyguard unless Cain is using Creed's rules.
So they're cadians. Cain didn't serve with valhallans for his entire career, after all.
Nathan Myers
imperial soup and chaos soup recieved no changes, hell eldar soup is still more than possible.
it just means the ynnari are squatted until their codex comes out and gives them an actual army instead of just borrowing from three other armies.
Ian Anderson
I just thought it would be fluffy since an advisor wants NOTHING to do with a fight. I actually came up with this list as a BS multi would model list, then put a theme to it. Kraken is strongest? Huh, I thought Jormungandir looked the best. Idk who carnac is but I aint him buddy.
Elijah Campbell
Trukk looks great but it will be hard to fit it on this list. I have cut some stuff but still I'm 29pts over the limit. Any idea what should I drop next?
Vanguard Detachment +1CP (1029/1000)
HQ Warboss: Attack Squig, Kombi-Rokkit, Power Klaw
Troops Boyz - Boss Nob: Big Choppa, Slugga - 19x Ork Boy W/ Shoota
Elites Nobz - Boss Nob: Ammo Runt, Power Klaw, Slugga - 4x Nob: Big Choppa, Slugga Nobz - Boss Nob: Ammo Runt, Power Klaw, Slugga - 4x Nob: Big Choppa, Slugga Painboy: Power Klaw
Heavy Support Killa Kans - 3x Killa Kan: Skorcha Deff Dread: 4x Dread Klaw
Dedicated Transport Trukk: Big Shoota
Robert Morris
Read you guys wrong, thought you where calling me him, nvm
Lucas Richardson
They can soulburst more than once per turn but they cannot use the same action more than once. So they can still potentially perform 5 additional actions
Jaxson Brown
The have neophyte hybrids which can be armed with las guns, and form a weapon team. They use their own datasheet
Cult sentinels, cult chimera and cult leman russ. Are a unique datasheet tying them to the cult.
Benjamin Long
Be one overkill power axe. After how many victories with the thing do i give him till i turn him into a Daemon Prince with the axe?
Asher Hall
Oh, I only mean model-wise. Rules can be adjusted no problem.