Why is he Asian?

as soon as you design the chapter and paint the minis. ^_^

>sikh marines
>everyone is named singh
that would be fun to watch, they would make the best alpha legionaries

>18 white guys in charge of the military is a scary prospect.
how is it even scary?
and isn't angron supposed to be Arab-meditarian as well i know kharn is

Because he's a space mongol
>why does he have so much more hair
The Lion, Russ, Curze, Sanguinius, Fulgrim, and some others all had long hair.
The moustache is he trying to compete with Dorn.

>What are the Iron Hands

Don't you mean 16 white guys, 1 asian and 1 guy who's red

Don't you mean 15 white guys, 1 asian, 1 black guy and 1 guy who's red because reasons

Wiki says that Emps was born in Anatolia in 8000-7000 BC, which is about ten thousand years before white identity even emerged into its current form.

As far as modern people would be concerned, he's middle-eastern. Which I find ironic given the extent to which the imperium is associated with white identity.

kharns Slavic I thought.

You’re thinking of Ezekiel of the Dark Angels Deathwing.

...

Clearly there is something I'm missing but the Dark Angels, to me, are the furthest thing from Native American. Where did this bit come from?

Rogue Trader era.

Rogue Trader era story (original "Deathwing" paperback), about a genestealer infestation of a Dark Angel recruiting world with a First Nation style culture. It's the story that explains why Deathwing Terminator armour is white..

>The moustache is he trying to compete with Dorn.
>Dornstachefags still pretending their primarch isn't canonically shaven.
You're hurting yourself user.

People living in Anatolia today are completely different than the ones that lived there thousands of years ago.
Middle-eastern isn't a race and a lot of races and groups today didn't exist back then
The emperor is meant to be predating all the different groups so you trying to put them in one is retarded.

>People living in Anatolia today are completely different than the ones that lived there thousands of years ago.
Only culturally. There wasn't great migrations until the modern era

>do the other primarchs not actually have male pattern baldness

They shave their beards and hair user.

>none of the other primarchs were Asian.

There are physical differences between the Primarchs, user. For example, Fulgrim and Dorn have white hair, while Ferrus Manus and Corax have dark hair. Do you see how there's differences OP?

Guilliman and Leman Russ are both blonde, but Russ is a wolf in a Primarchs body, and Alpharius is two guys while Magnus is just very large and red. Do you get it now?

Sanguinius has wings OP.

So, Horus just wanted to remove kebab?

There was A LOT of small migrations however since then + the big migrations of the early 20th century. 10k years are enough to greatly alter any population's gene-stock.

But who cares ? As you and said, he is too old to be tagged "white" or anything else. Even if MoM says he is some kind of Proto-Hittite, it doesn't mean anything at this time.

>10k years are enough to greatly alter any population's gene-stock.
10k years is fucking nothing in a world without safe travel.

youtube.com/watch?v=pvQo4cKymZU

It is when you are at the crossroad between (relatively) big demographic pools like the Mediterranean Sea and the Fertile Crescent. Your gene-stock will be altered in some way, even slightly. The last 3000 years show plenty of examples of this in Eastern Europe/Middle East.

>none of the other primarchs were Asian.
Please define "Asian".

If we assume Magnus to be some kind of Spess Persian/Egyptian, then he is technically Asian or African.

Word Bearers are said to have a dark skin, they could look like most people from Middle East. And Lorgar is supposed to look like the Emperor, who was born in Anatolia.

Alpharius is brass-skinned and some AL-related names are from Semitic languages (Chaitin, Effrit), so they COULD be Middle-Easterners too. It's really up to you.

The thing is, you don't need to look like a samurai/mongol/Vietcong to be "Asian".

Technically speaking, every primarch is asian because they were born in the Himalayas.

Such a top tier librarian that the Scars still quote him 10k years later

But no joke Chris wraights scars books made me start a 30k Scars army

The greatest human empire in Warhammer Fantasy was just ignored the entire time - Cathay. I would have liked to play Chaos Indians or Terracota Soldiers, I mean GW also had Easterlings in their LOR, so why did they waste the potential?

Khan and Chogorians in general have a pretty interesting Mongolian+Chinese culture and genetically just seem to be a variety of different central Asian genotypes.

Especially judging by art (which is not particularly fair), Scars themselves end up looking more like western Chinese aryans than straight up Mongolian or East Asian.

Your pic completely related.

Also my pic is one of the very few Scars pics where the marine in question is clearly Asian

I think it’s an underrepresented subject just from the subject of how different the whole “near immortal beings dedicated to nothing but war” idea changes when viewed through a different cultural lens

No they don't exist clearly the most popular Chapter in 7th for its bikes is the least popular reeee

WS books are by far the best books of the HH. Closely followed by AL books.

Seriously, I really enjoyed how they managed to portray the scars as almost believably human.

Their alienation from the rest of the Imperium kept them from becoming arrogant demi gods

I... i play Raven Guard. I have since 7th.

They fucking kick ass in 30k though.

Does no one remember that Magnus is a giant red dude with glam rocker hair down to his waist?

A better question is where did everyone who wasn't white go? I mean, there's a couple black guardsmen I think, but not much else.

There’s enough time between now and 30k as there was between now and when the different races evolved

So the asian looking guy ended randomly on the asian looking planet?
Will of Tzeench I guess

GW is a british company, it's natural that they would use more european characters.

Why the fuck do orks have cockney accents if theryre an alien species

So, the Primarchs are partially beings of the Warp, right?

We know that Vulkan, for example, because coal black because of the radiation on the world he ended up on. A color which is more genetic than something that might naturally occur in any given individual.

So, with that, is it possible that the Primarchs might have 'leeched' genetics/similarities from the population of worlds they came from?

GW's official stance on this is that originally they didn't have the casting skills to make any models that weren't white without going into exagerrated racial sterotypes. Most of the female models (particularly older ones) look like shit so can you imagine what it would be like if there were black guys in there as well? I think they're shifting towards a more diverse/neutral sculpting style now though; I see pics of that black warrior priest posted all the time.

No one cares about/buys them. See: Tallarn. Although that's partly GW's fault for not doing more with them lorewise. Seriously, what ever happened to the Vitrian Dragoons, those black guardsmen from the first Gaunt's Ghosts book? They seemed really cool and had the added bonus of not being a blatant not!culture, but it seems like they've never appeared in anything since then.

40k didn't used to take itself seriously. Orks are a relique of that age.
Or it was the Emperor's plan to send them away, or at least he manage to choose what kind of place they went when the accident happened.

I mean, if you look into how the pre-primarch legions behaved it seems weirdly similar to the primarch's worlds. NL first recruits were sons of criminals from a sunless "jail", which remembers Nostramo, same goes for the DG and Barbarus, or WE and Nuceria.

Though to be fair, it's better to not put much thought in it, considering how many different people worked in the fluff

Probably too few non-"white" players

I mean, I'm fairly sure a black guy recruited by the Ultramarines is going to stay black even after all the gene-see implants.

The World Eater from Talon of Horus was black, wasn't he?

Look, either representation doesn't matter and there's no financial incentive against doing the PR-friendly thing because white people will enjoy them just as much if done well, or it does matter and a Vitrian Dragoons book could attract more black people.

The Dark Angels comic had a few black characters in it

>Look, either representation doesn't matter and there's no financial incentive against doing the PR-friendly thing because white people will enjoy them just as much if done well
Doubtfull. People tend to buy things that resemble themselves.
>or it does matter and a Vitrian Dragoons book could attract more black people.
They're a minority.

Space marines' skin colour changes to adapt to their environment, if I remember correctly, so really what race you are before the change doesn't matter. In fact, what skin-colour you have might change one day to the next, depending on where you are deployed.

Jonah Orion.

I have yet to find a picture of Jaghatai where he doesn’t blatantly look like a Caucasian Khazak dude

It's the same as the ethnicity distribution in Britain at the time they were conceptualized.

More importantly, why is Perturabo the only ugly primarch?

Notice the thin nose and pale skin. He’s clearly Caucasian of some flavor.

I would also add that this isn’t that weird considering that western China has indigenous blue eyed, blond haired people and that Chogoris is a mix of everything east of Iran and north of India

Not really.
Salamanders have jet black skin, Night Lords as Raven Guard are pale as fuck.
I mean, Salamanders will have dark skin even when they're not under radiation exposure.

Pic related

>I would also add that this isn’t that weird considering that western China has indigenous blue eyed.
Not really indigenous. Probably descendants of the first Indo-europeans or later migrations.

Horus and Alpharius were ugly as fuck too

>Horus and Alpharius were ugly as fuck too
Look, I'm not into dudes but, this doesn't look that ugly. I'm not immediately repulsed by this face. Alpharius doesn't even have a face come on.

That's because their geneseed is flawed. Also the geneseed modificates your body totally so that what you were before becoming an Astartes is gone.

Alpharius wasn't ugly, he was just a manlet.

Looks like they were all slightly hispanic. Except Russ, he's a true mutt.

wtf is this crep lol

>crep

meant crap.

Because if you're trying to take over the Galaxy genetically engineering Genghis Khan as your outrider might be helpful.

One of the Astartes in Scars says that his mother is blond IIRC so yes, Chogoris is much more than "Spess Mongols".

>Caucasian Khazak dude
I like the idea. Khazaks are mostly Turco-Mongols mixed with a bit of Indo-Europeans like the Scyths so it would make perfect sense for him to look like this.

"Spess horsemen from Central Asia" would be the most accurate way to describe the idea behind the Scars. Pics related is a good example. The Stormseer actually looks like a Mongol but Khan has some kind of Turkish features.

>Alpharius is brass-skinned and some AL-related names are from Semitic languages (Chaitin, Effrit), so they COULD be Middle-Easterners too

their naming conventions lean towards Semitic occultism but as far as their physical descriptions it gets even more confusing.

Legion describes real!Alpharius as being bronze skinned with blue eyes.

Extermination describes them as that, or extremely pale. Basically, who knows with them because they're constantly changing the aesthetic.

Vulkan was Black, Magnus was red, but his people were implied to be Middle Eastern, and the Alpha twins, along with Lorgar, had tanned skin like their non-European father. Khan is actually not that out of place. Wish he had more screen time, though.

Chaos gods are segregationist

the viking wolfman landed on the planet of viking wolf men? weird

Oh my god Karen, you can't just ask people why they are Asian!

It's some online program that tells you "everyone's diverse now get over it."

Ignoring poc (primarchs of color)

>This chiseled face
>Ugly

take it back

>wall autist
>39% hispanic

You can't make this shit up.

Found it funny that Scars has a moment where Magnus tells the Khan that he was supposed to go to Fulgrim's planet, but Tzeentch made him go to the asian one. Bastard bird man is a damn racist

>Russ
>1% dog seman

>Even the Chaos gods are ethno-nationalists
How long can they go? Is that the real reason why they opposed the Emperor? They were against his human globalist universe-wide agenda?

>they are all Hispanic
what is this Hispanic being a race may may.
fuckers are based on the Mediterranean and they would all be some type of Latin, hellen or celtic-iberian.
pert is literally from SPACE GREECE.
for example.
THERE ARE NO WOLVES ON FENRIS

The Khan was a spic confirmed!

The real question here is why any of them are white?

White Scars aren't really Asian. At least not in any of the old artwork I've seen, they tend to be Caucasian. They are culturally derived primarily from the Huns and the Mongols (and the steppe peoples in general). Both made use of lightning cavalry attacks and specialized in cavalry archers. Likewise, White Scars make use of lightning attacks via bike drive-bys. Some of the names are derived from Mongolian, like Khan (leader). The name of the chapter is derived from the concept of intentional scarring the Huns used to do in older times. They would purposely cut their face until it was full of scar tissue so they could hardly grow facial hair.

An important thing to understand regarding space marines, particularly the founding chapters, is that they tend to be focused on Christian civilizations (Ultramarines are Byzantium, Thousand Sons were Coptic Egypt that fell to Islam, Imperial Fists are the Holy Roman Empire, Space Wolves are post-Viking-era Scandinavians who converted to Christianity, etc). The Emperor is the Abrahamic God or Jesus. The Huns settled in Europe and became the Hungarians, then they converted to Christianity and became one of the most powerful Christian kingdoms in Europe. This is where the White Scars influence comes from.

I bought a WS model because of that book. Damn shame the Khan doesn't have a model yet; hopefully once he gets one he'll be a badass swordsman and they won't just stick him on a bike.

Unremembered Empire and Know No Fear are pretty decent too, coming from someone who hates the ultrafags

Every primarch had a different role top fulfill. He was the token Asian guy. There is only one black guy as well, Emps simply had to fit those diversity quotas

>That boltgun on the top-left.
How the actual fuck does that thing work. Can't cycle a bolt without being needlessly slow and complicated, can't eject a shell because the dude's hand is in the way.

Maybe Emps based the gene seed of the primarchs on actual historical humans and Khan was actually based on Ghengis?

tau got the weebs wallets

>Primarch based off of one of Khorne's dear daemons
lol

Do we really want poo in loo marines? Chances are, they'd have a designated shitting barge

They beat a lot of similarities to the Space Wolves in that they’re feudal world barbarians with a deep respect for their culture and roots that shows in their chapter, but because they aren’t as big a bunch of Prima-donnas as Russ and his Wolves, they don’t get the spotlight as much.