Roleplaying in 2005:

>No. For the thing Aule desired most of all is that his creation should truly live.

You do realize that we will be doing the exact same argument in reverse in 12 years right?

>wow that's so dumb who ever heard of the god of beer?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquor_deities

All those things are a drop in the ocean compared to the Big Bang Theory

Cool strawman. Would you like to support your point with evidence?

Posting in 2005
>Skub
"Posting" in 2017
>Anti-Skub

How am I being elitist?

It's not really that high of a standard

A-fucking-men

Roland D. LeBay?

Your car's a piece of shit.

Roleplaying is for fags. Whats the point? Just roll dice, do combat and get loot. Literally no point in playing otherwise.

>faggots who "Totally love science!" and all the other pseudo-geeks, posers

Truly, weak-willed men such as these are the greatest threat to our civilization.

Roleplaying in 2005:

"I'm a vampire and I use my shadow powers to hide in a loli's anus."

Roleplaying in 2017:

"lol remember white wolf. everyone who worked there was a sexual deviant."

I don't agree with OP, but the first establishes thematic elements and cultural norms, the second is arbitrary and random. It doesn't take a genius to figure out which works better.

>"Roleplaying" in 2017:
>"lol my dwarf uses unseen servant to paint porn of himself having sex with larger creatures. what, you disapprove? HOW DARE YOU"

I legitimately played as a cleric of the god of beer one campaign. Basically my character was a drunken loser who's wife walked out on him with their child. He had an epiphany one night and devoted himself to the god of beer. There actually wasn't a god of beer in the setting, but an unknown benevolent deity granted him cleric powers. He actually created a rather large following for his made up deity due to his high charisma and unparalleled abilities to heal people. In the end it didn't matter whether the god of beer was real or not, what mattered was that it helped him spread good unto the world.

>m
fuck off

wow, your group went to shit

OP is continuing a long and proud tradition.

things oldfags have historically been angry about the invention of:
>buttons
>the printing press
>shakespear
>the opera
>newpapers

why did your roleplaying become shit OP?

I find it the opposite, I think early role playing were far more focused on combat,loot,gear hell GenCon modules had a scoring system not only you could win or lose but you can compete in a tournamental level with other groups of players playing the same module.

Roleplayin did had some darkages, depending on your taste, for me 4th edition the butchering ot the forgotten realms, the lack of novels (again personal taste some hated the novel shitting approach of tsr back in 90s) owod of white wolf fading into obscurity. But then pathfinder got popular owod was kickstarted back to life, 5th editino came with a respect if not an entire focus on roleplaying, even FR got a rewind. Moreover the game is now more popular than ever, yeah sometimes the podcasts and the games are shit but that comes with the territory I personally find it awesome that we have videos of people playing vtm, videos describing lore of forgotten realms or dming in general etc.

Roleplaying is really having a renaissance, I thought it was going to fade into obscurity in late 2000s.

You just crit my sides user.

>98
Damn I forgot how popular WoD had became back then, A designer of Planescape admitted that Sigil had factinos because "wod had them and it was the coolest thing at that time"
fucking hell, not that I hate wod but sometimes I'm glad it lost a bit of her popularity

Did the god of beer manifest himself into the world because of your actions though?

I ran one of those with my group. Holy shit it was hilarious. My players spent half the time limit in the first room, then died because they didn't check door #52 for traps. All the while I kept informing them about how many d&d points they were losing.

You do realize you can just rewrite both texts to trivialize the other?

Roleplaying in 2005
>lol my dwarf really likes to fight and die in battle. When we gonna fight!

Roleplaying in 2017
>Aye me boy, let me tell ya of the mysterious Eisenwald brew. T'is but the most sacred of liquor of me people, passed down from the gods of olde to Thogrim One-Eye at the battle of Grimtooth. On that day my people feasted and cried all night, for we won our freedom but lost many a brother, father and son. So I devote myself to the brew and the gods of it to keep the memory of our people alive and spread joy to all. If ye were a dwarf you'd understand...

>imitate accents in english all the time and know how to speak in a very fantasy-appropriate way in english from having consumed vast amounts of media in english
>have to stiltedly speak in my native language that I have little to draw from and everything comes off as cheesy and I trip over words all the time because it's hard to know what words to choose from
It's a curse, I could be ten times better than I am now.

Oh fuck off. Shitty players who didn't take the game seriously have literally always existed, the only difference now is we have the internet so it's much easier to share stories about them and see videos of it happening etc.

And 2005 is about the worst time, that was when all the AD&D players were calling your generation of 3.5 players a bunch of kiddy, barely literate, magic the gathering players who didn't understand real roleplaying.

Skub fag detected

Read some books in your native language? Watch some shows and movies?
Unless your native language has no written texts of course...

Suddenly realised I'd be a fucking incredible DM in respects to ye-olde fantasy voices if I moved over to America because I'm actually just English and sound like im from oxford

Anti-skub please go and stay go

>ITT: what completely and utterly random shit do I hate that I can blame

Hell yes you would. There's a reason americans feel uncomfortable doing their accent and always tend to a more english accent when playing in a Dnd-like setting.

Fuck Vikings.
They ruined roleplaying, fantasy and history for everybody.

let's be frank, movie wise he was best dwarf.

The Hobbit fucked things up, especially with their Kili being a beardless elf loving faggot.

Elaborate.

>The Hobbit fucked things up, especially with their Kili being a beardless elf loving faggot.
The Hobbit was fucking terrible on every level. I can't believe I sat through Smaug in its entirety

Always remember, King Alfred "the Great" got his title for one reason and one reason only: he kicked the Vikings out of England for good.

Fuck those guys.

Roleplaying prior to 2005:
>"I I try to sneak a look in the Ogre's bag."
>"What. Why?"
>"He might have some valuables in there!"
Amateur thespians are much worse than people who can play even if they don't take the setting dressing very seriously.

I think even though he's the comical relief he has more personality in the movies than he does in the books. Peopl talk a lot about turning him into a comical relief character but there really isn't a lot to him in the books, and the best things like Galadriel's hair, Legolas bromance (bar the glittering caves)
is still there

>completely and utterly random shit
user, stop pretending to be fucking blind.

Credit where it's due, they were right about newspapers.

Both have always existed.

One is like you and the other annoys you. Without the modern internet you pretended one did not exist in favour of the other. Now that you know one exists
>at all
you flip the scenario.

More's the pity, you could be having fun instead.

How did Big Bang Theory make the Drunk Dwarf a stereotype long after it was already one?

It didn't, and no one said that it did.

It -is-, however, the type of thing that encourages people to show up a games to play them ironically, and use exaggerated stereotypes of fantasy tropes to shit the place up in the belief that it'll make them quirky and entertaining.

>roleplaying was better in the middle of the 3E era
It's as though you weren't even born when it came out, OP.

>honestly i think podcasts and youtube are more to blame
>more to blame
>to blame
as stated by >all those things are a drop in the ocean compared to the Big Bang Theory
>drop in the ocean compared to the Big Bang Theory
>compared to the Big Bang Theory
as stated bytherefore "the Big Bang Theory, MORE SO than any other factor, is to BLAME for a stereotype of a type of character"

>newspapers
They weren't wrong, every single popular paper here's a massive shithole, right across the political spectrum, it's a like a brown rainbow leading to a pot of the bones of your childhood pet.

Tbh if you claim Shakespeare is better than Ben Jonson or Kit Marlowe I'll stab you in a tavern brawl

He's complaining about their approach to the character, not the fact that the dwarf likes beer.

Stop being stupid.

>he kicked the Vikings out of England for good
>it doesn't count if their boats come from a different direction!
>conquering half of France first made them French!
>also I've never heard of any such place as Stamford Bridge

>he's complaining about
I don't care what he's complaining about, the post you responded to says
>what completely and utterly random shit do I hate that I can blame
>I can blame
>blame

The post I brought up says
>to blame
>Big Bang Theory is to blame

...

I feel your pain.

>her popularity
Are you a sourcebook author?

>I don't care what he's complaining about
You do, though:
BBT was being blamed for -something-, yes, but not what you thought it was.

no, not a native speaker of englsih actually I tend to use her a lot when describing inanimate things, planets, countries, here rpg products. I can't remember whether this was thought to me or it was a habbit I made up as I learned the language.

Fuck off skubfag

I thought it was both women and islam

I bite my thumb at thee.

I enjoyed my time with it but looking back I have to laugh at how things always, ALWAYS devolved into violence and superpowers.

Strawman

I blame reddit, millenials and post-modernism in general.

It feels like people are outright terrified of being genuine and just beeline towards either "irony" or safe and face-value "humor" like their life depends on it.

>It feels like people are outright terrified of being genuine and just beeline towards either "irony" or safe and face-value "humor" like their life depends on it.
It's because we live in an extremely censorious, puritan time. When moral scolds are forever seeking new ways to put the screws on unapproved thinking, revealing your actual thoughts is increasingly dangerous -- so people take their refuge in veneers and overt insincerity.

Well yeah if you're in WoD violence and superpowers were going to happen because everyone was a fuckstick with their own agenda and compromise was impossible.

Yeah but it wasn't scheming or smart. Just, I have Potence and I don't know how else to deal with the problem.

I feel your pain, I hate RPing in my native language too.

When in doubt always use the hammer, there can't be a problem if there's no one left to make it a problem.

You're whining on Veeky Forums, so you probably are. You're just hiding it behind a mask of "omg guys, I am soooooo cool and casual xD".

Should I add that the oldest known rant about millennials ruining everything is from a clay tablet from Ur, dated for around 20th century BC?

>Stamford Bridge
Was an English victory, though it's directly responsible for Hastings being a loss.

Also it had (or probably didn't but it's a cool legend) the Stamford Bridge Viking, and he's rad

Harold was the realest saxon

Gonna need a source on that one. It's not that I don't believe you, I just need to see this with my own eyes.

Not only is that pretty great, it's also one of the few that follows the original format of the Virgin/Chad meme (the virgin being the one that's supposed to be relatable/semi-normal/make you feel self conscious about being him while the chad is over the top)

You can read about it in "Youth and Crime: Sumer and Later" by Martin E. Wolfgang. They were found by sir Leonard Woolley.

>love in France
>speak French
>married to French
>worship French god
>vassals of French king
>fight preferably as heavy cavalry and not in a shield wall
>out for permanent conquest rather than raiding
Normans were far more French than snowniggers by 1066.

>virgin is supposed to be normal and relatable
t. Virgin

No, it doesn't, the one that suits the players' expectations the best and leads to the most fun.

Say that to mine face, thy wizened dwarf and not via tapestry and see what happens.

I'm personally in favor of blaming these sorts of people for everything wrong with the world. If i meet one more idiot who considers himself a studious intellectual because he reads harry potter im going to bust a fukcing nut.

>who considers himself a studious intellectual because he reads harry potter
Please tell me this hasn't happened

I wish I was making it up.

>He isn't aware of the Rick and Morty people.
Oh you innocent child.

Dear lord end my life as soon as possible

amen

this sounds like a fucking riot honestly. I'd try to inflict that on my group if I had literally any desire to gm d&d

Roleplaying in 2005:
>You saved the elf princess, what're you gonna do?
>I'M GONNA FUCK HER
>Dude, what the f-
>It's okay, my barbarian is chaotic evil
>Alright, roll to rape
>....Nat 1
>By accident, you actually jam your dick against the stone slap she's lying on. Roll for damage.
>Dude, what the fuck
>LOL
>Kek
>I'm gonna post about this on Veeky Forums

Roleplaying in 2017
>You saved the elf princess, what're you gonna do?
>Uhm... don't you know that this "saving the princess" trope is disempowering to women and sexist?
>And what do you mean by "what're you gonna do"? Do you think women are some kind of reward you just get for doing tasks for them?
>And what's up with you assuming my sexuality? Don't you know my character is otherkinsexual?

I can even go further: Rollo and his guys were the last true Northmen of the ones who moved to Normandy. Rollo himself married a local French noblewoman, already making his son half French (and probably fully immersed in French language, culture and customs). Even if we fallaciously use genetics as the defining factor, you'd be lucky if William (2-3 centuries later) was even 10% Norman.

But even assuming we somehow erase the French identity of the Normans, the English can always feel butthurt about the Angevins and king Louis I of England.

>3 girls in the group
>go into brothel
>"What do you do?"
>"I uh, I see what's on offer, hehe" *silence*
Holy shit not making that mistake again