>Be an adventuring party >Hear children are disappearing from Sweet creek village >Travel to Sweet creek >Run-down hovels, drunk miners, knife fights, rampaging diesease of ... carnal origins, whores, beggars and slightly deranged town fools >very few children >mud >Find Mayor, sleeziest fuck around. Surrounded by not-mafia >He cries and bawls over "lost children" >Go and explore >A few days and a few homicides in self-defence in town later >Come upon a hermit in High peaks, a few days walk from Sweet creek >Nice guy, kind >Our nosy Rogue finds some of the kids hiding in a barn >Turns out pretty much all kids are here >He took them >He is a hermit, because he is infected by incurable lycantropy >He is lonely >Villagers treated kids like shit (kids admit to this, no one wants to leave "Home") >Hermit departs a few days before each Moon in order to take wereform somewhere far, not harming anyone >He is well stocked, having a few thousand goldipeces left from adventuring days. He can raise the kids >Kids seem really happy
Wat do?
Anthony Harris
>>He is well stocked, having a few thousand goldipeces left from adventuring days. He can raise the kids
So he has enough money to purchase everything in the country? Good, then have him found an order or his own kingdom and get some sweet rewards from him!
Dominic Johnson
Slay the lycanthrope and become the new babysitter obvi
Isaiah Foster
Isn't the value of gold super-low in DnD? (OP did not specify, but it sounds kinda DnD-ish)
Josiah Sullivan
OP here.
Not really. But he could buy a nice looking house in a town if he wanted.
Levi Morales
Call the DM a fag for making such a contrived situation.
Brody Baker
Depends on the game. I play AD&D and the only thing higher then gold is platinum pieces, and there's copper, sliver, and electrum behind gold. A thousand gold pieces should easily get you a small castle and maybe a couple of houses for your new serfs.
Jackson Cooper
Yeah, but I always enjoy joking about how stupid it is. The average Barony back in the day was lucky to produce 24 gold coins from the entire output of both the nobility and serfs combined.
James Ortiz
Find a means of treating his lycanthropy.
Lucas Turner
Nope, it's fairly valuable but that goes out the window when magic is involved. Magic is expensive
Jacob Jenkins
House nothing. He could get a hundred head of cattle and still have money left over.
Carter Lee
>Wat do?
Sounds like the problem solved itself out, though I can guarantee all those children are going to be turned into werewolves eventually. Not because I don't think the hermit will have a mean streak or some desire to corrupt those around him, but children will be children: they'll look up to him, grow to admire his qualities, and they'll eventually want to be "just like dad" whether they admit to it or not.
Brayden Allen
OP here.
We finished the session in about half an hour of bickering over Kill the werewolf/You'll go straight CE if you do.
Thatswhy I'm asking.
Jackson White
Let them do what they'll do and let the consequences be what they are.
Daniel Robinson
This. That would be a fantastic adventure.
Cameron Ross
Infect the children with his Lycanthropy, then geas the lot of them to be good doggos.
Juan Hill
Take out the not-mafia, take out the not-crimeboss mayor, and make the hermit the new town's mayor.
Convince hermit to use his money to help clean up the town, with the adventurers providing the initial muscle to take care of any remaining shitheads.
Use new town as base of operations, quest for not-shit people to hire as town guards, explore the cave system/crypt/dungeon discovered when the new town well is dug, et cetera et cetera.
Benjamin Hernandez
What do you expect a werewolf to come up with when adventurers kick the door in on him and his corrupted child harem?
Christopher Clark
Killing a werewolf is not chaotic evil, even if he's a nice man you massive faggot. The wolf in him is a psychotic monster that will kill without remorse. If he just fucks off to the hills every month he will almost certainly kill a hunter or charcoal burner or curious child who is wondering where he's going.
There's better alternatives than killing him, but it's not some idiotic thing to do when he poses a serious risk to the wellbeing of others. More so when he can give them lycanthropy.
Besides that point, anyone actually mentioning alignments out of character (or worse in character) during a morality debate needs to fucking off themselves.
Cooper Sanders
Go on a quest to cure his lycanthropy so he can really become a full time guardian for the kids.
Juan Green
Encourage the werewolf to kill every sinner in town.
Killing someone who provides shelter to the innocent is definitely chaotic evil though. Second, alignment is a literal, tangible, measurable concept in the D&D universe. In fact, the earlier books outright say that discerning or asking someone's alignment is often considered extremely offensive or an act of hostility.
Parker Lee
cast detect evil if he pings, smite him
Asher Lewis
Kill the werewolf because he's too dangerous to be kept alive, then flay the not!Mafia and the mayor and expose their bodies in public. Claim that this will happen to anyone that break the law.
Things are going to get back into normal after a while
Isaiah Stewart
He fucks off to the hills on his man legs, he's claiming to you that he can hike out and it isn't much, much easier for the wolf to travel the same way back. And he has to be a hermit with reassuringly nothing to do with the town where he knew about and was able to collect these kids. There isn't one part of this that sounds right, I'm starting to think the not-mafia was founded to collect tribute for him.
Ryan Lopez
if he leaves a few days before the moon like he says, he can get pretty far away, especially if his house is far enough away from the town and he hikes even farther away. If it's standard lycanthrope where he only turns 1 night out of the month, then even better
Julian James
>Go back to town >Slaughter all townsfolk >Burn town to the ground
Nathaniel Smith
>Things are going to get back into normal after a while For how long? Few weeks? Months? Year? Once the party leaves the village everything will return to "normal". Fear isn't efficient in long run.
Liam Perez
That's how things work irl. If there weren't a penal system, humans would be killing and raping each other every day
Isaac Carter
It's medieval setting just purge the entire village and place children in the care of church/orphanage/abbacy (werebro is rich, right?)
Ryder Morgan
We actually had something similar in a game awhile back. Our party alchemist and telepathic psion provided the solution. The alchemist created something to let him control the change and the psion turned the beast from CE to CG and helped merge the two personalities into one.
Gavin Powell
Neat
Jackson Ramirez
It's kidnapping. The bonus Stockholm syndrome doesn't phase me. Return the children voluntarily, for we'll say where they are anyway and get a "found them" reward, or attempt to fight here and now. Try to get guardianship through a justice system or kill the townsfucks and take their children by force.
This kinda shit is above us, we're just dungeon junkies, fuck you and your contrived situation.
Nathaniel Adams
This
Sebastian Ortiz
This is one I'm comfortable passing on. No dirty money for 'rescuing' the children, no blood on my hands, no moral judgments. Just gonna find a new adventure.
Aaron Barnes
in most iterations of dnd there are none, short of wish/miracle spells or treating it very shortly after it applied.
Treating a disease with no outward symptoms prior to the next full moon can be difficult though.
Cure disease spell as above, prior to the first full moon.
That said as a werewolf he's probably fucked some people up even if he doesnt remember it.
Hes a danger around the kids, and someone, almost assuredly them will get hurt eventually.
Arrange for an orphanage in the city to take care of them, far away from bum fuck no where. If cleric, convince some to join your church as acolytes, if fighter take one as a squire, if spell caster have them tested by your respective tradition for talent, if any of them suss out get them tutelage at that academy, etcetera etcetera.
Expensive sure, not very exciting but it beats rending the faces of children.
If he believes he can do this without someone getting hurt, than he is deluded. You would not give care of children to a man or woman who, once a month went into a berserk rage and cannibalized any nearby people, would you?
"But its very well managed and I've never eaten anyone I care about!"
Tough titties. The kids have to go somewhere safe. Sorry old timer, but I wont have their blood on my conscience.
Asher Sullivan
Wow, one murder and straight to chaotic evil? Thats some railroaded shit right there.
Yeah, not this. Definitely not this.
Chase Collins
OK but what if there was and there is a cool adventure to find it, instead of just going by the book
Henry Lewis
what is the conflict here. Cause it seems to me like all of this adds up to "Well that was a colossal waist of time and energy cause it looks like we can do nothing and just move on." I mean does the wolfman what you to depose the corrupt mayor? Is there a reward for finding the children? What's the catch?
Brody Gonzalez
>Pathfinder t. faggot
Mason Thompson
Kill everyone except the children. Use whatever contacts the party has to get the kids "adopted." If the wizard went to some sort of wizard school, send some of the kids there. If the cleric or paladin has some kind of holy order, they get some of them. If anyone's a noble, his household now gets a few new housekeepers. If the warlock has a demon patron, he gets a few sacrifices.
Robert Torres
You can't just go straight to Chaotic Evil with one murder. If you're intentions for the killing are for the greater good and you're following a law of people, gods, or the natural order, it can be a Lawful Good decision
Ryan Bailey
Let him keep the kids. Chances are that if you take them back they'll end up growing up into the exact kind of scum that are plaguing the city now, at least those that don't die from beatings, illness, or starvation that is. If you kill him then it'll be all the worse since there's a good chance some of the kids may grow up to become adventurers determined to seek revenge on his behalf. If you really want to do right by everyone then help the guy set up a proper home out of the way of prying eyes that the kids can grow and flourish in. Maybe convince him to use money not spent on a good home go towards books so they can get some proper learning outside of whatever woodsy survival things he teaches them. Doing this ensures that, A: The hermit and kids are happy, B: you get a nice little sideplot going, and C: you have some potential PCs/NPCs for future campaigns.
Hudson Baker
>OP says the lycanthropy is incurable >Durr I find a way to cure him Reading comprehension is key.
Grayson Cook
>HIV is incurable >All those drugs must be a scam
Wyatt Barnes
Now I haven't really kept up with the status of HIV research so my info may be dated but most drugs that treat HIV don't cure you of the disease they just keep the symptoms in check.
Austin Price
>reaching this hard Nigger the guy turns into a fucking wolf monster that requires he make a mulitday long trip each month to avoid hurting people. Exactly what part of that is even remotely comparable to an immunodeficiency virus?
Eli Lopez
>Exactly what part of that is even remotely comparable to an immunodeficiency virus? His understanding of either of them?
Evan Miller
Only doing it a single time isn't enough. The party would need to stay there.
Sebastian Hall
I just finished my first sesion of DnD two days ago.
Is this the proper way to play paladin?
Henry Morales
"Treating" and "curing" are not the same thing.
Samuel Kelly
>You would not give care of children to a man or woman who, once a month went into a berserk rage >woman who, once a month went into a berserk rage
user we need to have a talk about what you know about wimmins.
Christian Allen
Yes and no. They balanced prices around what the players would reasonably be using. So you end up in a situation where basic stuff non-adventurers care about is dirt cheap, but a single +1 sword is thousands of gold. Which can feed a ridiculous amount of people because a cow costs, like, a dollar
Caleb Perez
To leave the children to their own devices for a day or more is to put them in danger. Since you are using alignment, a goodish party should negotiate with him to bring the children to a safe haven. Attacking the werewolf might be necessary if negotiations fail, but a kind person could be made to understand the dangers and you have to question his motives if he does not want to negotiate.
Tyler Cooper
>muh moral relativism
Here is what you do, you roll for initiative while everyone is bickering and smite that faggot dogbeast abomination with righteous fire.
>b..but he is a good guy He is a cursed abomination who is a danger to the entire area.
>b...but the children like it there Who gives a fuck, children are not arbiters of their own fate, they belong with their parents. Just because some kidnapper in the forest gives them sweet treats does not mean that is the best place for them, nor is the entire fucking town logically bad.
>b...but the entire town is corrupt good, after you kill the fucking beast, go cleanse the town of its filth in righteous holy fire.
>muh moral relativism Fuck off, it's only relativistic if you are of a WEAK mind and soul.
Lucas Watson
why not return the children, claim the reward and then offer to shepherd kids who want to leave back
Josiah Cruz
It's really not that contrived. You can boil it down to
>village is niggers >the one good person in the village is a retired adventurer who takes care of kids that ran away >he's uh, also a werewolf >but he's responsible about it >do you turn him in?
Ryan Stewart
>it's possible to be a warewolf "responsibly"
He can responsibly kill himself. That's about it. Being that he has failed to, he can responsibly take my fucking long sword through the gut.
Lucas Hughes
Shoo shoo edgemaster
Thomas Brooks
not the guy you responded too but saying hes edgy implies hes trying to hard but in all honesty killing the werewolf, no matter his character, is a valid argument. and if we let kids decide where they get to live im sure many would rather chose the well off old man who doesnt make them work rather than the family with which they have basic responsibilities. you know, because they are short-sighted children.
Christopher Johnson
>I'm an edgemaster because I refuse to let a werewolf live much less leave him with a gaggle of FUCKING CHILDREN
No, you lack the convictions to do what's right, to do the hard things needing doing. You disgrace your ancestors.
Brayden Mitchell
Or he bites your head off.
Guess we'll never know huh.
Isaac Martin
If threat or damage causes him to change then he is even more of a threat to the kids.
A risk any goodly charicter would take.
Aaron Davis
Not the guy you're talking to but yeah, because kids are just known for their habit of randomly stabbing people with swords.
I'd say if he hasn't killed anyone in the past (Do your fuckin' research into this) and the kids have been there more than one moon without being turned into delicious kibble munchies then you spend a moonlit night out at his cabin and see how he controls himself/stops himself from hurting the kids or help him build a buttsex dungeon for himself where he can be chained like a furry gimp on the weekends.
Then leave the kids with him and go unfuck Sweet Creek by the sword so the kids and him can go live there themselves once you're in charge (Or he's in charge, whichever works for you) Basically if he's legit never harmed anyone and the towns folk tried to murder you, it's pretty clear who is less of a threat because he's handling his shit and they're not.
Bentley Evans
Retreating from charted territory to never see another living soul again would at least be responsibility-adjacent for a coward. Instead there's this imbecile weak enough to delude himself that it's under control and always will be so he's cool to stay on the outskirt and surround himself with tots.
Samuel Torres
I'm callimg you an edgelord for going all "FUCK that faggot werewolf and FUCK you fotlr having the slightest sliver of feelings and imma purge the town LOL now no one takes care of the kids", not the action of killing the werewolf
Nathan Edwards
>thinking the kids are the problem
A wandering...ANYTHING...can cause him to change. Fuck, he is in the wilds a God damn bear can cause him to change. Then bye bye kiddos and oh, I'm sure he will feel so sorry and you will double think that you truly dindunuffin.
Then, you can go find the kids parents and say, yeah, I left them with the fucking werewolf who changed when a dire chinchilla wandered into his cave and hung your kids entrails from the fucking stalagmites. Lel, nothin personnel I'm still a goodly man!
No. You are a mental coward unwilling to face true evil.
Charles Nelson
Oh I'm sorry, am I to have feelings that's the gelatinous cube has to eat to survive so Gee I just better let it live! How noble! It doesn't matter what kind of damage it causes! How just! It's just doing what it does from no fault of its own! How kind! Oh, Mr cube, of course an orphanage will be a perfect place for you! How MAGNANIMOUS.
You are the GOOD GUY. You CARE!
William Cruz
i never said shit about killing the town you brain-dead ape. and NOW im saying youre a toddler if you think 1. kids know whats best for themselves 2. that as this guy gets older he wont become a threat due to inability to leave or a addled mind(for fucks sake hes stealing kids)
Kayden Adams
I dont have the slightest sliver of feelings for werewolves.
I do, however, have the slightest silver of feelings, bitch.
Isaac Gutierrez
>A wandering...ANYTHING You mean that shit you just pulled right out of your undersized urethra and that hasn't been established as fact? In fact the fucker hasn't even said he's playing D&D, so we don't know the rules. All we know so far is that they change with the moon. For all we know OPs werewuffs are of the 'savage but not evil by nature' sort. He hasn't given us enough fucking details.
Also >You are a mental coward unwilling to face true evil. Maybe you're a mental coward unwilling to face nuance and the fact that people can be more complicated than >Good >Evil >One of the above, fuck you, muh moral relativism is shit Let me put it this way user. You would be one of the first to sign up as a guard at a gulag, by your own logic I would be morally decent to remove you before you can do so.
Cameron Peterson
Even if they ONLY change on a full moon guess what? Still a evil fucker for bringing kids into the mix.
Yes, let's put a bomb in nurserys! Don't worry, you only have to put in the deactivation code the day before a full moon! This is LOGICAL.
A true beacon of light over here. A real fucking man of goodness.
Nathan Thompson
I can't be fucked deciding on a post to respond to but anti-werewolf fag here has autism.
It's like he's fucking roleplaying a really angry dude whose whole family was murdered by werewolves. Except there's no irony or fun here. He just sounds really upset over a hypothetical.
Like this is fucking Veeky Forums and all so there ain't nothing wrong with doing the faggot ass rp shit but you're doing it in the middle of an argument. Or whatever the fuck this is.
You have the wrong kind of autism. Reading this conversation made my head hurt. Fuck you and I hope you trip down a flight of stairs.
Christian Allen
I'm sorry I didn't fall for your low brow moral bait. It's simple. Kill the rabid dog and go on with your life, if your good.
Jordan Howard
but the dog hater has a point, though its presented in an annoying fashion. like the werewolf is stealing children, as in multiple. we change the scenario to being just a plain old dude who's stealing kids cause hes lonely and we start to see how simple the solution is. and him being a werewolf just sorta adds on to the reasons we shouldnt leave the kids with him, let alone leave him alive. who knows what he actually does when hes turned, whos to say he doesnt one day infect or kill someone. there is no way to make sure any place is completely secluded from anybody, things can always go wrong. like what if in his old age he forgets to leave, or he is sick in his human form/broke a leg and cant leave. then what happens?
Austin Gutierrez
I don't hate them, I feel absolutely nothing for them. Do you hate the wasp as you destory it's home? No. The wasp is just doing what wasps do.
Connor Moore
The guy I called an edgelord wanted to "cleanse the town in fire", but okay buddy
"Durr ur toddler let me tell u why ur wrong" I never argued killing the werewolf wasn't the right thing to do, asswipe
Eli Campbell
>"your" >user can't tell different posters apart
Aiden Clark
Evil party: kill the werewolf Good party: find a cure for the hermit's lycanthropy. If he's as good as you say, he'll want to be cured too
Carter Garcia
This, I hope the DM wanted to turn this into the focus of his campaign
Gavin Davis
Pretty much anything that the party does will not have much relevance in the long time.
Henry Ramirez
that what did i say to even have you respond to me? because if what you said is true then you have no problem with what i said and just replied to me to try (and fail) at calling out dog hater for being a samefag.
Jayden Hughes
Why would your party even want to kill the hermit/werewolf guy, though? Do you have any obligation to do so? Why is being a werewolf something so inherently evil? It's like saying you have to kill a person with flu just because it can maybe spread to someone else and get that person to die.
Also, killing a completely sane and kind human will be a very morally reprehensible act no matter what. Besides, if it really is DnD, all indicates that he's an afflicted lycanthrope rather than a natural one. Probably got bitten back when he was an adventurer. Just grab a remove curse scroll, keep the guy in a cage and cast it at him during the full moon. That's how you cure that by raw.
Julian Clark
>find a cure for the hermit's lycanthropy. OP specified to that it was incurable.
Bentley Green
Cure the lycanthropy from the hermit and then go to the village and whip some sense into the inhabitants pointing out that a fucking werewolf did a better job at raising their children than they did. And when i say whip i mean literally
Lincoln Fisher
Then move children and hermit to a place where he can be looked after without endangering other people so the children can be fostered to normal families since the wilderness is no place to grow a child. If he's really good he'll understand
Or find something that gives you a Wish spell and use it to cure the guy's lycanthropy
Nathan Gutierrez
Does he think it is incurable or does he know? Because chasing a legend to find a possible cure sounds like a heck of a campaign
Jackson Parker
>trivial for adventurers to cure >ex-adventurer with a fortune hasn't cured it So trustworthy!
Ryder Price
>Be a party >Town full of thieves and murderers. >Tons of whorehouses. >Whores have been disappearing from town. >Find all the whores living at a farm down the road to nobody's knowledge. >Owner is nice, but a massive weeaboo. >Once a year he turns into a tentacle rape monster. >But it's cool, during the transformation he just stays locked in the basement and masturbates to furry porn.
That's the story you just told us.
>Implying something can't go wrong.
Jonathan Morgan
Hey, if he's just bullshitting them, that's all the more reason for them to cure him. Werewolves are at their most dangerous when they *can* become ravenous beasts.
And you can't do that ritual yourself, because the lycanthrope must be under a moon-induced transformation when the spell is cast. Granted, he could have paid someone to do that. But I suspect the DM just homebrewed some special lycanthropy that can only be cured with the holy ashes of a cremated saint or something.
Lincoln Brooks
I'm using that for Shadowrun, thanks.
Levi Diaz
How did you know my secret?
Benjamin Nelson
Yesss.
John White
I was going to suggest something along those lines. I think one of the darklords or antagonists in the Ravenloft setting had a ring or amulet that allowed him to do that.
Ryder Allen
Pay a vampire to infect the kids. Then release them in town and watch hilarity ensue. Hermit goes mad seeing his precious kids turned into monsters. The wolf takes over permanently. Everybody wins.
Jackson Rodriguez
I FUCKING HATE 5ENIGGERS WASN'T FUCKING SELUNE SUPPOSED TO BE SPONSORING GOOD ALIGNED LYCANTHORPES, GRANTING THEM ACTUAL CONTROL THROUGH A FUCKING KIT.
FOR FUCKS SAKES, JUST DO SOME DIVINATION AND DISCOVER THIS WELL KNOW FACT- HELL, EVEN TELL THIS GUY AND CONVINCE HIM TO USE THE MONEY TO START UP A FUCKING CHURCH TO THE GODDESS/MONASATRY, IF NOT, THEN FIND ONE, TELL THEM ABOUT THIS GUY, AND THEY CAN MOVE HIM AND THE KIDS OUT
READ YOUR SPLAT RELIGIOUSLY
Eli Reed
>SELUNE
Forgotten realms was butchered in 4th and was casualized to the bones in 5th, don't expect much.
Jayden Morris
fake and gay because a player actually remembered the name of a town