/STG/ - Star Trek General

Not really. Ferengi still have some sort of genitalia, so this is different. I think it’s more like playing with someone’s nipples.

Oh, okay. All these rubber heads start to look the same after a while. Does that mean I'm just too pleb to appreciate the designs yet?

Their tongue might be a better comparison. There's supposedly a lot of nerve endings in a Ferengi's ears.

>he got his nipples circumcised

I think that's part of why so many STD species look weird. It's supposed to make the aliens look more alien.

It's the same as rubbing the ears of an elf.

Did someone say elves?

Your pain runs deep. Share your pain with me.

FUCK OFF YOU TOUCHY FEELY KNIFE-EARED NIGGERFAGGOT

>Pelina Whitestrake meets Sybok
>Sees his ears, goes full Pelina on him
>No more Sybok, atleast in one piece
>Star Trek V doesn't happen

And then there was much rejoycing.

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Is the Crystalline Entity related to the Tholians in any way?

Well we'll never know because Doctor "Hippocrati-what now?" Pulaski killed it.

Wrong answer user, not even close. Pulaski wasn't even in that season.

Oh, right. I keep forgetting that wasn't her, for some reason. Still though, it's dead and doesn't appear to have had anything in common with them.

Anyone got a link to the corebook? It's disappeared from the PDF Collection, if it was there at all. Just wanting to check out this game before I invest in it something fierce.

>Sisko's wife
>Bashir's dad
>the EMH

>Liam Neeson
>Charlize theron

>Episodes directed/produced by Riker, Paris and a bunch of other trek crew/cast
What the fuck is this show?

Trek's true successor.

>What the fuck is this show?
The only good thing on network TV this year.

The Good Place bruh.

A show made by a true fan with creative talent that, instead of being a parody, actually matched the roots of the inspiration for its artistic view, character relations and its humor and drama. its like what original star trek would have been if shatner hadn't shatner'd it.

I thought the original show was always supposed to be about Kirk, Spock, and McCoy.

I'm an outsider binging Star Trek for the first time so I can flesh out the Federation-esque organization in my RPG setting.
Suggest some episodes for me.

Star Trek IV
TNG: Measure of a Man

ENT: The Andorian Incident
TOS: A Piece of The Action

Star Trek IV
Star Trek VI
TNG 1x25 Conspiracy
TNG 2x9 The Measure of a Man
TNG 3x16 The Offspring
TNG 7x20 Journey's End
DS9 4x11 Homefront
DS9 4x12 Paradise Lost
DS9 7x16 Inter Arma Enim Silent Legis
Star Trek Insurrection

>Wanting anyone watch Insurrection

Watch it all and become a fucking freak like the rest of us.

I'd like to remain at least a little attractive, if possible.

It only hits at 80% of the series, so just skip Voyager.

Just remember to remain contradictory at all times.

I’m sorry, user. If you want to understand the Federation, you’ll have to become a gremlin. That is the order of things.

Is that really necessary? I mean I’m all for introducing people to Trek, but the core tenants and concepts of the Federation could more easily be gleaned from one of numerous trite internet essays on the subject. You probably don’t need to watch episodes of the show.

So, I just looked through the STARPG boom “These Are The Voyages”, the adventure book?
It’s great stuff, really Trek-like.

And one of them is almost literally the plot of the episode of Orville with the huge biosphere ship, which I only really recognized once I started watching Orville tonight.

I liked Star Trek: V.

This. The TNG movies are shit action movies.

And some people enjoy having their testicles stomped on by women in high heels. Someone enjoying a thing is not indicative of the quality of that thing.

My STA books have been dispatched.

Woah now, don't bring people's fetishes into this, that opens a whole different can of worms I am not even going to begin probing into. Fetishes aren't even necessarily a voluntary thing.

I move that we consider “enjoying Star Trek:V” to be a fetish.

I concur.

>Fetishes aren't even necessarily a voluntary thing.
Degenerates please go.

>buzzwords

Words like "degenerate" can only ever mean "thing I don't like." Have we "degenerated" from the days when our ape ancestors, like today's chimpanzees, killed and ate the babies of rival troops? Have we "degenerated" from poisoning wells and using smallpox as a military tactic? Have we "degenerated" from using bloodletting to solve EVERY medical problem, or thinking fossil fish were simply fish that swam through rocks, or that fire was an element and not a chemical reaction?

Degenerate can apply to any stunted individual. The classic degenerates are those that cannot wrap their heads around the most basic objective truths such as "There are two genders" or "Success requires hard work" due to them having degenerated into a mindset where opinion beats fact.

>oversimplified black-and-white morality

For starters, success requires a number of factors. Hard work, opportunity, knowledge, and more. No matter how hard you work to become a professional track-and-field star, if you do not have the opportunity (anywhere from not having the time due to other obligations to having no LEGS) and do not have the knowledge (of how best to practice and exercise and diet and run), you will get nowhere.

Touting an infantile maxim without knowing what it actually MEANS marks you as someone less interested in objectivity and more interested in feeling superior to someone else.

This is especially true in the case of sexuality. If you come at it from a position of "objective" morality and decry everything else as "wrong," you're going to get nowhere with people because, surprise, emotions are not a thing that people choose to feel, and this includes arousal.

Ah now lads, if I’d wanted to see this sort of pseudo-philosophical bollocksology, I would have gone on a YouTube video about gamer gate. Keep shit to Trek and chill the fuck out. You want to to rant at each other about the Hirogen or the Cardassians? No bother, no worries. Want to rag on Discovery? Yeah, go on so. But if you want to get involved in all this identity politics/shaming shite then fuck off back to /pol/ or whatever other echo chamber you spawned from.

Decent music in First Contact, at least. Would have been a better film if there was no time travel and the confrontation with the Borg cube had been at the climax of the film.

What amuses me is how it tangented from "liking V is heresy" to "femdom is pleb-tier" to this.

What would be an interesting direction to take the Cardassian Union in for a series set some decades after DS9?

Anything that isn't more liberal and akin to the Federation except making it more corrupt and broken.

A functional and unashamed Fascist space empire would be most interesting. The strength of the Cardassians was Dukat's charisma.

Total collapse. Multiple factions with different ideologies ranging from cardassian supremacists trying to resurrect the lost TNG-era golden age of their civilization to fairly nice people who want to join the federation, if only for the protection it would offer them.

>basically the collapse of the soviet union

Oh wow, it actually stopped. Usually someone would show up with a pic about seeing something "so ignorant they had to respond." Helps that it's only a four-post derail.

What doesn't help is that thread's pretty dead right now. Wanna talk about Borg species designations?

>Wanna talk about Borg species designations?
So... like just giving random numerical signifiers to different species? I’ll be honest, lad, I don’t much see the appeal.

No, things like "do they actually tell us which order they encountered these species in," "have we already met any of the species they catalogued but never named," "did the Borg ever try to assimilate a Q and get exactly the result you think they got," etc.

Huge civil interruptions, caused by wildly divergent political movements in the post-Dominion aftermath. Everything from the New Hebitians to Restorationist factions all vying for the soul of the Cardassian people.
I straight up made a STO mission based off of that idea, but the Foundry is broken most of the time so I’ve had no feedback on it.

>do they actually tell us which order they encountered these species in
I’d wager so. Or at least in the order they become worth the Borg’s attention. I doubt they have a designation for every dog/elephant/tuna equivalent they encounter.
>have we already met any of the species they catalogued but never named
Absolutely. The Borg seem to be aware of basically every warp capable species in the Galaxy. Once you have FTL, the Borg catalogue you. They don’t necessarily deem you worthy of assimilation, but they at least deem you worthy of note.
>did the Borg ever try to assimilate a Q and get exactly the result you think they go
There has to be some basic rule within the borg that says “don’t fuck with beings that could erase you with a thought.”
Just look at the Husnock for reference as to why resistance can sometimes be insurmountable.

>DS9: In the pale moonlight
Personally, my favorite episode out of any trek series

Agreed

Absolutely best Trek. However I don’t think it’s a fair representation of the Federation for what that user is looking for.

Wholeheartedly?

Indubitably!

I already watched Pale Moonlight and thought it was better than some movies I've watched. Bit of an outlier, though.

Is Discovery any good?

>Is Discovery any good?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

no

What's the name of the mission? I'll go play it.

>Cardassians claim that they are stronger than federation because they are united faction of one species
If they wanted to make some allegories, why did they make a prequel series again ?

That is a very good question.
It couldn't be the old fans they wanted to woo in, after all, there are lots of fans of both TOS and TNG era.
Also they went and createda completelydifferent art style despite the series beinga prequel to TOS by only a few years.

Mission is called “Accusations”. I’d number is ST-HIVZSANM3.
As far as I know it’s still in the review section. Seriously, the foundry went down for about 2 months the day after I put it up.

Post-WW2 Japan.

I actually really like it. It's totally out of canon and it plays hard to young normie audiences who almost certainly aren't watching but as a first series it's alright and compelling enough to keep me watching.

Lorca is about the only likeable character (likeable in a Dukat kind of way) but the other characters have some pretty interesting arcs at least. I reccomend giving it a go.

The effects and space battles are great.

Discovery suffers from shitty lead actors. The security dude and Burnham are easily the weakest actors and characters of the show, but they get the spotlight all the time.

Apart from that it's an okay science fiction show. It ain't really Star Trek since there is no focus on discovery and curiosity, the crew apart from the main character doesn't get to shine and they retconned quite a lot. Take it as a slightly weaker Battlestar Galactica and you can enjoy it.

The ginger nerdslut is the worst. It'll be much better once she gets axed.

I guarantee they’ll double down on her and transform her into a spec-ops badass in the second season.

>TNG 1x25 Conspiracy
So I started with this, and what the fuck?
Riker and Picard just phaser'd a man until his head blew up like he was in Total Recall. What universe am I fucking living in?

This, so much this.

It's a pitty, but I agree. There's a good character hidden in there somewhere, a nerdy scientist trying to have a career. I could imagine it being some form of Janeway origin story (obviously not Janeway herself) where the bookish character learns how to take charge and becomes a good officer. Sadly, it's all
>DISCO

Same actually goes for the most of the other characters

>Lorca and Admiral Cornwell
I want to know more about how the two met, what led to her becoming an Admiral and him "just" a Captain. How did they break up and why?
I also love the "punished snake" vibe from him refusing to have his eyes corrected. It's a trope, but I still like it.

>Paul Stamets and Dr. Culber
Two senior officers in a relationship in different departments. How much can they share, how much do they share about each others work? The whole thing with Stamets "I CAN SEE ETERNITY" affliction is handled so badly it hurts.
That dance scene between Burnham and Stamets was pure gold though.

>Saru, Airiam, Lieutenant Detmer
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GIVE IS COOL LOOKING ALIENS AND INTERESTING LOOKING CHARACTERS AND ONLY USE THEM FOR SET DRESSING AND REINFORCING THE MARY SUE. THIS MAKES ME SO ANGRY!

Well they're already implying she'll be a ship Captain one day. There's nothing more absurd than that.

I do enjoy it but my greatest problem with later Star Trek is it moved away from writers and show runners who actually had military careers. It bleeds through when a writer is working off Star Trek and not an imagined Future rank structure. Most personnel would have no intention of ever becoming a ship Captain let alone awkward science technicians like Tilly.

So, will their porn be about how many tentacles the tentacle monster has?

You know that there's hospital ships, research ship, exploration ships and full on science lab ships in Starfleet, right? It's a civilian fleet.

yea the highlight of the series was the ending of one of the last episodes there when the admiral is captured by the Klingons and Lorca orders against any attempt to rescue her. I took an interest in the series after that.

Couldn't find it. Nothing popped up on the search.

Just as there are in todays Navy's and civilian fleets but they're not Captained by Doctors and scientists. They're captained by career Sea Captains. A dedicated graduate career job.

In todays Navy's and in Starfleet canon until essentially the last season of TNG you have to be a Tactical Officer to become a ship Captain.

Tentacle porn combined with the repetitive epic. A woman lives a selfless life of duty and lust for a tentacle monster, has a daughter, her daughter does the same thing, repeat for seven generations.

No, it will all be thinly veiled fractal dominion war analogies, interspersed with romanticized interpretations of one's duties to the state and their family. Also big titted Bajoran sluts.

Sure they are career Sea Captains, but it's not unusual to have someone with a captains degree and a scientific degree being the captain of a science vessel today. I served on three arctic research vessels and all three captains had additional, scientific degrees to their name.

Well I'll concede then, albeit reluctantly in the context of a paramilitary fleet that has to deal with aggression from foreign factions. I've only sailed under dedicated career Bridge Officers.

With the sort of thorough education recruits get at Star Fleet academy I can see how this could be commonplace in Starfleet but I Beverly Crusher or Cadet Tilly ever being ship captains strained my credulity.

At least with Crusher it was established she actually does like being in command to the extent that she regularly took bridge shifts and got her commander pip. She among all the CMOs in the franchise would be the first pick to eventually make captain and command her own ship, though a medical ship for obvious reasons.

and genetic defects.

That was a neat scene. Sadly it went nowhere.

I see where you're coming from and I do agree with you that there should be mention of a bit more than just a "captaincy test" to become a starship captain. Star Trek also handles the difference between the military rank of captain and the position of ship captain kinda weirdly. I'd love to see smaller, patrol ships being captained by lower rank officers for example.

Mashing together the civilian fleet and the military fleet is also problematic, especially in DS) and Discovery due to their war themes - I get that it was Roddenberrys hippie vision and that should be respected, but the weird ways that Star Trek tried to deal with the issues coming from that are well, weird. From Section 31 to MACO they've always avoided to correct that in some fashion. Right now, Starfleet seems to be Judge, Jury and Executioner in all matters pertaining to space exploration, diplomacy, interstellar warfare and much more, which is just odd.

Are you signed up to the review thing? I’m fairly sure it’s still on that.

I am. Nothing came up, unfortunately.