>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android: >Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA
>there are people in this thread that will argue Primaris won't replace the entire SM range within the next 5-7 years
Anthony Moore
How do we fix the Necrons?
Hunter Sanchez
No airlines when?!
Julian Cook
How do you deal wounds against mixed toughness units?
Jeremiah Miller
That's a Malifaux mini isn't it?
James Ortiz
Sisters are much more than that
I'll give it to you in bite sizes.
>SoB are literally the "star system" cops of 40k
>SoB are one of the few factions that literally go out of their way to do everyday Heroics.
>SoB are extremely independent when you consider the reach of the church.
>SoB is an extension the church, arguably one of the main pillars of 40k, another Pillar of 40k is WAR, which the church wages through SoB.
>One of the most iconic art-pieces in the entire scifi world. Try showing some official GW SoB art to someone completely new to 40k. Everyone should experience this reaction once.
>Celestine while "soup" in TT, is the pinnacle of SoB in the fluff. Celestine is right up there with the Rowboat as a great mover and shaker of the events that shape the whole setting.
>Bonus; when you think of "Heresy and burning" your mind will eventually drift to SoB. That's not a mistake. That's intentional.
>SoB are arguably one of the last bastion of old rugged GOTHIC 40k. Where other themes in 40k has been modernized and made "sci-fi friendly" SoB stands out being extremely hostile, chauvinistic leering priests, outdated morals, and 100% GOTHIC 40k armour and concepts.
In this day and age of Primaris and sensible Black Library books there's nothing more WARHAMMER than Sisters of battle.
In many ways they are carrying the "GRIM" of 40k on their backs ALONE.
Where other factions speak of immense arbitrary suffering of galactic George Lucas Star Wars proportions Sister of Battle exemplifies real grim darkness in the modern 40k hobby experience.
There are no mixed toughness units in the game to my knowledge.
Owen Stewart
>Rolls of 6+ to wound for Gauss weapons instead give mortal wounds
There, done.
Isaac Nguyen
Deathwatch.
Majority toughness, unit's owner breaks a tie.
Cooper Butler
>Whole army generates massed mortal wounds >Malefic Lords are currently a problem
In short - no.
Connor Gutierrez
Are deathwatch bikers that join the basic troops squad not T5?
Grayson Reyes
So if I was to convert a Farseer Skyrunner for -1CP to lead my Dark Eldar army 'cause we kinda need that Doom, can units in Aux detachments take Craftworld Attributes and am I forced to use Eldar tactical objectives if he's my Warlord?
Was going to try and mimic high-Turn PfP with my build, so Saim-Hann tactics for Reroll Charge and Fate's Messenger for 6+++. Fluff is the leader of my Kabal of the Raven's Eye has his own custom jetbike laden with bones and trophies from his first kill in numerous battles, and an unerring eye for judging who to focus fire on first. I'm only allowing him to cast Doom, though. Throwing out psychic blasts or Mind War isn't very Dark Eldar.
Hunter Foster
Is that your interpretation or does it have a ruling somewhere?
Christian Collins
>*teleports behind you* >"Nothing personal, kid."
Lucas Young
When will GW make the Royal Wedding event?
David Moore
N-No they wont. My uncle works at GW and he told me the Primaris are going to turn evil and the marinelets will lead us to victory.
Thomas Thomas
Make it not apply vs infantry then.
Elijah Robinson
Orkz got a stratagem leaked that allows it
Camden Turner
It's not ruled on, just a precedent from 7th that still makes sense.
Christopher Martin
You guys are correct - I hadn't read through the KT rules.
Jaxson Brooks
I wouldn't care one bit if the primaris actually developed all of the eccentricities of manlet marine geneseeds. But the perfection they supposedly have is very off-putting.
Nolan Thompson
It is part of a rule included with the DW kill team, called "mixed unit" in Index 1
Lucas Rivera
The fuck is with his tiny hand?
Anthony Moore
Actually it 100% spells out in the DWKT rules how to handle it (and the linked post is correct, majority, tie is decided by unit owner).
Camden Taylor
See
Wyatt Evans
Just take an hq detachment with farseer and 2 spiritseer
Lincoln Ortiz
Take the 3rd Ed. Codex. Make it fit into 8th. Done.
Ryder Johnson
a Loverfist
Ethan Thompson
6 = mortal wound vs tanks would be neat
Chase Walker
"leave the tau to me"
*dies*
Caleb Wright
Would ideally like to keep soup levels to a minimum while keeping the Farseer in, and paying 1CP seems fairer to me than just throwing in whatever I want and getting bonuses. I wanted a fluffy decent Warlord anyway, so this is about as far as I'd like to go.
Ryder Peterson
Shadowsun recognised something was wrong from the lack of smell....
What do Ethereals smell like?
Leo Flores
Who cares if they do?
Joshua Perry
You know that crusty, musty smell of old people....?
Julian Diaz
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Thanks guys
Jace Allen
>There are conspiracy theorists in this thread dumb enough to think space marines will be squatted
Isaac Richardson
Yes they can take traits not sure on the tactical objectives, never play with them.
Carson Bailey
>When it comes to personality, accomplishments, and overall leadership, Calgar and Dante are actually eerily similar, responsible acts of feats that would be considered impossible by most Space Marines. >Both in their own right would be considered living legends, true sons of their Primarch >I still think Dante is hella cool while I feel little about Calgar What's wrong with me? I realize my bias, yet I can't over the fact that I just prefer Dante over Calgar. It is the speeches?
Blake Adams
Hi, so I’m new to the hobby and I just bought the following:
I thought drukhari were cool (scourges looked awesome, and I like the whole space pirate vibe). I just don’t know the best way to load these boys out.
Henry Parker
They're already getting pushed out in the fluff. In-setting, it makes no sense to produce marinelets anymore - especially if you're a Chapter like the Scythes. And it's the easy way for GW to force Marine players to buy new armies instead of just sitting on the huge collections they've had for years - phase them out, slowly enough to not start a panic. Old marines are going to slowly, but surely, be replaced in the lore and on the shelves.
James Davis
What's your backlog like Veeky Forums?
Just got my shadowsword in the mail, need to start my basilisk and got a Manticore, primaries psyker and an engiseer on the way
Andrew Fisher
>A unit of 20 warriors and a Lord with the relic Warriors do 2.78 damage plus 5.56 mortals for 8.34 total against a Leman Russ in one phase turn one
Thomas Reed
Buy ynnead set, and run Ynnari. Pure DE wont get you anywhere.
Juan Rogers
>Ravagers All Dark Lances - they'll form the bulk of your Anti-Armor/Monster loadout. They're cost effective and deal damage well.
>Kabalite Warriors I like cheap 5 man warriors in Venoms with 1 Splinter Cannon, 1 Twin Splinter Rifle. They're fairly cheap (115 for whole set up) and you can spam them to move quickly and handle most forms of infantry.
>Scourges Usually depends on what you do with warriors - if you equip your warriors to be anti infantry then you'll probably go for blasters or maybe lances to bolster your AT.
Noah Stewart
You'd be trading 2 cp and losing strategems also traits iirc.
If you don't care about the trait for one dude you can just take him in the deldar detachment.
Julian Ross
Excellent. TacOs I'm not too fussed about, but it's nice to not randomly have major army figures without their Army Rules or equivalent. Now I just have to figure out how to make him a custom bike worth a damn.
Dark lances are actually quite viable now with only -1 to hit, I got mine with heat lances for suicide squads tho
Jose Wright
>'lol don't play DE, use stupid fucking gimmick army instead!'
That's you. That's what you sound like.
Jonathan Russell
Good. We're talking about how to fix necrons.
Carson Bell
no, that would be these
Cooper Morgan
what are their stats vs normal lances?
Isaac Brown
Very nice choices. Your opponent can say goodbye to his tanks if you equip the Scourges with Dark Lances and park them in cover. They should snipe a decent amount of wounds off every turn. Don't listen to this retard:. DE are solid middle of the pack and can be menacing as fuck in the right hands.
David Turner
>What's your backlog like Veeky Forums? ... Dont remind me. >TFW most of my GK infantry is only basecoated, still need to shade and highlight my Stormraven and the Sponson Weapons for my Land Raider >TFW need to paint an entire 2k point Mantis Warrior army, all I've painted up till now is 5 marines and half a razorback > TFW My nid army was actually pretty far along in 7th, but then I changed up my whole list for 8th, so now I need to paint 30 gaunts, 20 genestealers, a random assortement of new monsters, and I still need to buy 2 carnifexes and a new Hive Tyrant to complete the list for 2k games
Life is pain, bro.
Hudson Bell
Any ideas for bits to use for a rhino primaris?
Would a big radar dish be enough?
Joshua Mitchell
>"muh conspiracy!"
Wyatt Hughes
Ynnari have been nerfed to the ground.
Zachary Cox
Don't forget about the half-naked women with giant chainswords.
Cooper Nelson
What about trueborn? Their stat sheet makes them look pretty good, especially with blasters
Carson Fisher
They're identical, they're fantastic on ravagers because they become assault.
Daniel Sanchez
Well, not too worried about CP or strats, since I don't really have a huge amount of uses for either with only one Eldar unit and Command Re-Roll for Deldar. Guess I can just stick him in there, though. Used to not mixing detachments. Ty.
Easton Thomas
....the fuck you talking about? Normal lances? Have you read the index?
Aiden Collins
>top tier for just long enough to sell off the new stock
Who could've guessed?
Ian Cook
This is incorrect. I play Ynnari and I've played 3 games since the change and still haven't lost one.
Yeah Trueborn with blasters are a solid addition, good unit to add to a venom to roll around with. I don't normally go for them because I find myself points shy by the time I get to them but they're a fine unit.
Bentley Gonzalez
>Identical Nigger, what? Heat Lance: Assault 1 Range 18, S6 AP-5 D6 damage, when within half range roll 2d6 for damage and take the highest.
Dark Lance: Heavy 1 Range 36 S8 AP-4 D6 damage. They become Assault weapons on Vehicles.
Isaiah Baker
Not for Eldar, hence why I'm asking, mong.
Michael Rodriguez
>having krieg
Gives monies pls richy
Nicholas Hall
I thought he was asking about the difference between a bright and dark lance.
Wyatt Fisher
A lot, I'm behind by about two years for health reasons. I buy myself things to try and distract myself and cheer up and fall even further behind.
>pictured is two warhounds, there's a third half painted one behind me and a half assembled and painted warlord elsewhere >about 5000 points of taghmata >conservative estimate of 5000 points of raven wing, 2000 death wing and maybe 4000 standard dark angel >death watch task force, land raider x2, corvus flyer x2 >11 imperial knights, one of each of the battle line detachments they did a while ago, all in various stages of assembly >8000 points of tau
I just started a small death guard army to try and snap myself out of it with a fresh start and rekindle my enjoyment, I think if I can manage to do this and start playing games for once I'll get somewhere. >already going wrong because I've got a mastadon on the way for the DG
Luis Thompson
Well when you play against brain dead new players i bet i could win 3 games with them as well.
Christian Lewis
2 Rhinos 2 Drop pods 1 Death Company Squad 1 Assault Squad and i need to purchase another Rhino and a bunch of bitz to kitbash my Captain. I hope one day Aphael gets rules.
Parker Taylor
Last 3 games:
Assassin + Trio List - Effectively the list that won wargames con
Bobby G + Razorbacks and Stormraven
New bugs
Eli Lewis
Our new Codex shall be glorious !
Oliver Brooks
I recommend one large dish/reflector for orbital communication and a few antenna for local communication. And I recommend you do that instead of buying the GW kit because GOOD GOD the Aquila spam is just insane on that kit. I count T H I R T E E N aquilas in that image and that's before considering the rear and left sides of the tank.
Carter Rodriguez
It litearlly just going to be the Space Marine Codex with our special units and Chapter Tactic, which will be +1 to advance and charges and something else, And WT and Relics thats all. probably wont even buff anything since we are already strong cause we are marines.
Christopher Sanders
God damn, you have 3 warhounds, one half painted and a half built warlord?
Finish that warlord man, post updates to /wip/ and shit hopefully their words of encouragement can get you back on track.
And stop buying forgeworld with so much unfinished.
And listen here nigger there isn't any 'normal' lances it's heat, bright or dark
Cameron Carter
Buy some varied width plasticard tubes and rods, build yourself an antennae array, add a couple of radar dishes to it and you're good.
Brody Thomas
We will get cost reduction for our unique units.
Ian Sanders
You should see what I spend on my dice...
And 40k isn't even close to my most expensive hobby
Anthony Wood
So if I threw all the warriors in the raider and get another venom and run two blaster venoms, what do I do with the archon and the birdbois?
Ryder Nelson
I'm not sure, guys. I don't think it's quite imperial enough!
Sebastian Cook
If you die can I have your titans bro
Julian Brooks
What is?
Justin Fisher
Why would they? People would end up buying them instead of Primaris.
Nathan Watson
Basecoat is better then 'assembled' at least
William Clark
My Orks are mostly done but I've got lot's to do for my DG, working on a Helbrute for them right now.
Kayden Reed
>tfw you're black and someone calls you "nigger"
That's racist.
Wyatt Martin
Melee Guard is best Guard !
Christopher Powell
Like mind control
Dominic Thomas
>Basecoat is better then 'assembled' at least The thing is, its about 25 Terminators, plus another 20 PAGKs, all have the base colors on them and shit, but I just cant make myself sit down and actually start shading, layering and highlighting them.
Thomas Morales
Unfortunately Archons have fallen pretty hard this edition and have become nothing more than leadership sticks with a Blaster. Even a Haemonculus is better at fighting in CC than an Archon. I can't even recall the last time I haven't failed my Archon's 2++ against the first shooting attack against him. Usually people take 9 Kabalites and stick him in the Raider with that squad. Or you can just keep him on the ground in the back to protect Scourges/deny deepstrikes.
Xavier Barnes
...
Jose Young
This.
Ryan Barnes
some 700 or so points of Orks, whatever amount of points of Custodes & SoS that come in the Talons box, some Eldar and some Spess Mehreens, some 2000 points of Fantasy Wood Elves and some 2000 points of Fantasy Orcs & Goblins oh and.. like 10 Sisters of Battle miniatures and other small bundles of guys