Desired scans : Rank and File supplements Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements Force on Force supplements Hind Commander At Close Quarters War and Conquest Modern Spearhead
Brody Howard
November the 25th in military history
1120 – The White Ship sinks in the English Channel, drowning William Adelin, son and heir of Henry I of England. 1177 – Baldwin IV of Jerusalem and Raynald of Châtillon defeat Saladin at the Battle of Montgisard. 1491 – The siege of Granada, the last Moorish stronghold in Spain, ends with the Treaty of Granada. 1758 – French and Indian War: British forces capture Fort Duquesne from French control. 1783 – American Revolutionary War: The last British troops leave New York City three months after the signing of the Treaty of Paris. 1795 – Partitions of Poland: Stanisław August Poniatowski, the last king of independent Poland, is forced to abdicate and is exiled to Russia. 1826 – The Greek frigate Hellas arrives in Nafplion to become the first flagship of the Hellenic Navy. 1863 – American Civil War: Battle of Missionary Ridge: Union forces led by General Ulysses S. Grant break the Siege of Chattanooga by routing Confederate troops under General Braxton Bragg. 1864 – American Civil War: A group of Confederate operatives calling themselves the Confederate Army of Manhattan starts fires in more than 20 locations in an unsuccessful attempt to burn down New York City. 1876 – In retaliation for the American defeat at the Battle of the Little Bighorn, United States Army troops sack Chief Dull Knife's sleeping Cheyenne village at the headwaters of the Powder River. 1917 – World War I: German forces defeat Portuguese army of about 1200 at Negomano on the border of modern-day Mozambique and Tanzania. 1940 – World War II: First flight of the de Havilland Mosquito and Martin B-26 Marauder. 1941 – HMS Barham is sunk by a German torpedo during World War II. 1952 – Korean War: After 42 days of fighting, the Battle of Triangle Hill ends as UN forces abandon their attempt to capture the "Iron Triangle". 1970 – In Japan, author Yukio Mishima commits ritualistic seppuku after an unsuccessful coup attempt.
Lincoln Adams
It is 840 years since the Battle of Montgisard was fought between the Ayyubids and the Kingdom of Jerusalem. The 16-year-old King Baldwin IV, seriously afflicted by leprosy, led an out-numbered Christian force against the army of Saladin. The Arab force was routed and their casualties were massive, and only a fraction managed to flee to safety.
Saladin had planned and invasion of the Kingdom of Jerusalem from Egypt. Learning of Saladin's plans, Baldwin left Jerusalem with only 375 knights to attempt a defense at Ascalon, but was stalled there by a detachment of troops sent by Saladin who had 26,000 men. The true numbers are impossible to estimate, since the Christian sources refer only to knights and give no account of the number of infantry and turcopoles, except that it is evident from the number of the dead and wounded that there must have been more men than the 375 "knights". It is also uncertain whether the so-called knights included mounted sergeants or squires, or whether they were true knights. Just as uncertain are the numbers of their opponents. An 1181 review listed Saladin's Mamluk forces at 6,976 Ghulams and 1,553 Qaraghulams. However, there would have been additional soldiers available in Syria and elsewhere, while auxiliaries might have accompanied the Mamluks. Whether these would have added up to a total of 26,000 reported by William of Tyre is impossible to say.
Saladin left part of his army to besiege Gaza and a smaller force at Ascalon and marched northward with the rest. Accompanying Baldwin was Raynald of Châtillon, who had just been released from captivity in Aleppo in 1176. Raynald was a fierce enemy of Saladin and was King Baldwin's second-in-command. Also with the army were Baldwin of Ibelin, his brother Balian, Reginald of Sidon, and Joscelin III of Edessa. Odo de St Amand, Master of the Knights Templar, came with 84 Templar knights. Another Templar force attempted to meet Baldwin at Ascalon, but they remained besieged at Gaza.
Leo Cook
Saladin continued his march towards Jerusalem, thinking that Baldwin would not dare to follow him with so few men. Because Baldwin was supposedly not a danger, he allowed his army to be spread out over a large area, pillaging and foraging. However, unknown to Saladin, the forces he had left to subdue the King had been insufficient and now both Baldwin and the Templars were marching to intercept him before he reached Jerusalem.
The Christians, led by the King, pursued the Muslims along the coast. The location is disputed, as Ramla was a large region that included the town under the same name. Saladin was taken totally by surprise. His army was in disarray, part had been held up by the mired baggage train while another part of his force had scattered into raiding parties across the countryside. The horses were tired from the long march. Some men had to hurry to collect their weapons from the baggage train. Saladin's army, in a state of panic, scrambled to make battle lines against the enemy. King Baldwin ordered the relic of the True Cross to be raised in front of the troops. The King, whose teenage body was already ravaged by aggressive leprosy, was helped from his horse and dropped to his knees before the cross. He prayed to God for victory and rose to his feet to cheers from his army.
The Jerusalem army attacked the hurriedly arranged Muslims, inflicting heavy casualties. The King, fighting with bandaged hands to cover his terrible wounds and sores, was in the thick of the fighting. Egyptian effective command was under Saladin's nephew Taqi ad-Din. Taqi ad-Din apparently attacked while Saladin was putting his Mamluk guard together. Saladin's men were quickly overwhelmed. Saladin himself only avoided capture by escaping on a racing camel.
King Baldwin's victory was total. He had utterly destroyed the invasion force and had captured Saladin's baggage train.
Samuel Rivera
Baldwin pursued Saladin until nightfall, and then retired to Ascalon. Deluged by ten days of heavy rains and suffering the loss of roughly ninety percent of his army, including his personal bodyguard of Mamluks, Saladin fled back to Egypt, harassed by Bedouins along the way. Only one tenth of his army made it back to Egypt with him.
Baldwin memorialized his victory by erecting a Benedictine monastery on the battlefield dedicated to St. Catherine of Alexandria, whose feast day fell on the day of the battle. However, it was a difficult victory; Roger des Moulins, master of the Knights Hospitaller, reported that 1,100 men had been killed and 750 returned home wounded.
Despite an intervening year of relative peace, by 1179 Saladin was able to renew his attacks on the kingdom, including his victory at the Battle of Marj Ayyun that year. This led to almost another decade of warfare which culminated in Saladin's victory over the Crusaders at the Battle of Hattin in 1187.
Montgisard is a quintessential "Crescent and the Cross" type wargame, with two of the most famous commanders of the Crusades leading classic knight and ghulam armies. A better prepared Saracen player could present a serious challenge to the Jerusalem army, and a historical result is by no means certain.
On 25 November 1941 at 4:25 p.m., while steaming to cover an attack on Italian convoys in the Mediterranean, HMS Barham was hit by three torpedoes from the German submarine U-331, commanded by Oberleutnant zur See Hans-Diedrich von Tiesenhausen. The torpedoes were fired from a range of only 750 yards providing no time for evasive action, and struck so closely together as to throw up a single massive water column. As the ship rolled over to port, her magazines exploded and she quickly sank with the loss of more than two-thirds of the crew. Out of a crew of approximately 1,184 officers and men, 841 were killed. The survivors were rescued by the other British ships.
Tiesenhausen was forced to dive to evade the escorting ships before Barham exploded, and heard only the detonation of the torpedo. He could not be sure whether he had sunk Barham, or if she had merely been damaged and left the scene before he resurfaced. It was not until the Admiralty's admission on 27 January 1942 that Barham had been sunk and described the circumstances that Tiesenhausen knew that he had sunk her. He was awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross that day.
A Royal Navy Court of Enquiry into the sinking ascribed the final magazine explosion to the detonation en masse of 4-inch anti-aircraft ammunition stored in wing passages adjacent to the main magazines, which would have detonated the contents of the main magazines.
The sinking was captured on film by Pathé cameraman John Turner, aboard HMS Valiant. In consideration of public morale and to protect the families who had lost loved ones, the Admiralty decided to keep the film secret until the end of hostilities in 1945. The film has been used many times as stock footage in documentaries. It has also been used fictionally in films such as Earth vs. the Flying Saucers (as an American destroyer), Task Force (as a Japanese carrier), The Guns of Navarone, "Up Periscope" (as an Japanese destroyer) and The Battle of Okinawa (as Yamato).
Nicholas Jenkins
> Is there a corresponding IJA/SNLF list out there?
Sebastian Young
Any new ideas for the next community project? One user suggested something with a personal connection; such as honoring a family member who served, or making a unit relevant to your local area
There is a Japanese Army 1941-2 list in our CoC folder
Grayson Hill
Adding the request to this new thread. Looking for "The Face of Battle" WWII rules, or, at least the gear, weapons and tanks data charts, plus any relevant quick reference tables.
Dylan Rogers
PT-76
Cameron Davis
Reposting
Cameron Martinez
Were there many engagements in nam' with armor?
David Smith
SS had the best camo. prove me wrong.
James Morales
After the Americans left, yes. The North's steamrolling of the South was very tank heavy.
Kayden Peterson
The book you'll want is called Vietnam Tracks by Simon Dunstan.
I don't think there's a scan of it anywhere
Nolan White
Too bad it was tied to a bunch of crazy losers.
William Perez
Anybody know a source for good plastic or metal 15mm tanks and infantry for WW2?
Justin Young
I know what I'd get and it would be usable by any user regardless of what they already own or the scale they normally play at (and it wouldn't be boring either). The problem is, I don't know if I'd get something like that back. I don't want to come off as selfish but I know last year someone got 2 packs of 28mm Taliban (something like that). If that was me I'd be in trouble. I'd have no one for them to fight and no other 28mm stuff/terrain at all.
I really want to sign up, what with 1 week to go. I'm just not sure.
Colton Cook
>responding to a /b/-tier shit/bait post
for shame user
Aiden Robinson
pretty, but i prefer splinter pattern
Ryan Parker
Plastic Soldier Company for 15mm plastics including infantry iirc.
Caleb Rodriguez
Just ordered a fair number of Late Romans from Pendraken Miniatures, I'm quite excited to paint miniatures smaller then 28mm.
They have excellent 15mm ancients and ww2 miniatures.
Levi Anderson
Decent, but I prefer the Yemeni Chad camouflage.
Elijah Moore
Man I stirred up some colossal amounts of butthurt about the Germans in the last thread. I wonder why this sort of thing is so common on Veeky Forums I have never seen it on /k/ or on any chan board really bar /leftypol/.
Samuel Flores
Germans are controversial on /hwg/ due to how popular they are and the odd players that they attract. Nobody has problems with collecting Waffen SS, just der Mann.
Dominic Evans
Oh fuck off, don't confuse a vigorous discussion with a few anons "butthurt", and don't stroke off about it
Zachary Carter
Objectively false. Everyone knows Rhodesians had the best camo
Leo Bennett
Oh hells yeah PT-76
Jonathan James
This.
Tyler Bailey
EMR is pretty rad as well
Caleb Price
Can any weeb or gentleman of the Japanese persuasion help me out? I want to make some cards as the attack and defend tokens for Ronin and because a mere slip of paper hurts my autism, I want to make them all sleek and thematic. My plan is to have them with the kanji and "attack" or "defend" written underneath, possibly color coded as well.
But what kanjis to use? I've come across pic related as the ones I think are the most accurate from what I can understand from the descriptions, but I don't know for sure.
Jack Jenkins
Has any one picked up anything nice from Blitzkrieg models? There is a 50% sale on all ww2 stuff right now. I ordered a A13 and a Matilda II for my BEF.
Ian Gutierrez
Looking for : - Bolt Action supplement : The Road to Berlin - COC supplément : Citadel the Breakthrough
need help !
Connor Hall
be sure to learn slogans to write on your sashimonos
Aiden Jones
I'm making 2 Ikko-ikki standard bearers, who will have those.
Bentley Fisher
>that pic
the fuck? is this like Cuban camo? no fights so they give no fuck? oh, wait..... >saudi/egyptian air strikes >yellow markers to spot from the air
maybe it is designed to get sun-faded into usefulness?
Ryder Gray
> 1795 – Partitions of Poland: Stanisław August Poniatowski, the last king of independent Poland, is forced to abdicate and is exiled to Russia.
This makes me think of one of my favourite more obscure European wars - The War of the Bar Confederation.
Basically Catherine the Great had Poniatowski put on the throne of Poland thinking he'd be under her control (because they used to bone). Instead he set about pushing through reforms and strengthening the Polish state.
This freaks out the Russians and Prussians, who bully the Commonwealth government into pushing through a bunch of legislation granting more power to the Protestant and Orthodox minorities, knowing this would piss off the Catholic nobility.
The nobility were indeed pissed off and formed a 'Confederation' to throw out the Russians and protect the Catholic Faith.
Cue a 4-year clusterfuck as Poniatowski tries to stop the Russians getting all up in his shit whilst simultaneously trying to put down the rebellion, while the Confederates fight essentially everyone.
It gets even more confusing later on as the French and Austrians start helping the Confederates, while a separate revolt breaks out in Ukraine stretching government forces even thinner. Meanwhile the Russians chase some Confederate troops over the border into Moldavia, pissing off the Ottomans who then declare war on Russia.
William Perry
Think about it from the point of view of the fact that it's supposed to be impactful on movement. Those guys running may look absolutely confusing for someone in that sort of place.
Jack Sanders
> no fights > Yemen
um
Wyatt Martinez
How hard is it to paint 15mm?
Have only painted 28mm with various success, so I'm a bit afraid to take the leap.
Jayden Martinez
Less detail to worry about. Me and two buddies did like a platoon of WW2 Soviet infantry in one evening. They were primed, so we just applied green for the fatigues and helmet, brown on the gun and belts, black on gun and boots, and flesh on heads and hands. Then slapped on some wash and let them dry over night. In the morning we could start the battle of Kursk.
Blake Nguyen
When is the deadline tO join?
Asher Lopez
NM, saw the Dec 1st fine print right as I hit submit
Jaxon Turner
You're not painting eyes and such so it goes much faster.
Jeremiah Young
user has already noted that the PAVN and the ARVN had lots of tank-on-tank action in the 1972-5 period But there was one recorded battle between Vietnamese and US tanks, at Ben Het in March 1969; a pair of PT-76s were knocked out by M48s during a brief skirmish en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Het_Camp grunt-redux.atspace.eu/armour7.htm
Ayden Reed
I'm looking to branch out into 1/285th scale tanks. How much better is GHQ compared to Gamecraft? I have in my head that GHQ is top of the line but I'm not very familiar in this area.
Adrian Brooks
Which part of ww2 is under represented? Me personally I think it's the early war.
Thinking about starting up a battlegroup force comprised around BEF vs. Blitz era germans.
Carson Miller
Some of the more obscure theatres like New Guinea.
Zachary Watson
GHQ is top quality, but also very pricey. Heroics and Ros do solid tanks in 1/300 although their infantry are pretty blob-ish (not that it really matters when you're more than 2cm away from them) H&R are incredibly cheap so if you just want tanks I would go with them.
The entire Chinese Theater, especially the 1937 period (technically the second sino-japanese war and not WW2, but essentially it rolls into WW2)
Jonathan Lee
>The entire Chinese Theater, especially the 1937 period (technically the second sino-japanese war and not WW2, but essentially it rolls into WW2)
This was the best part of the war, because if you believe the movies it had shit like three Chinese guys holding off entire battalions of Japanese infantry with just a couple machine guns and limitless supplies of stick grenades. And also surprisingly well choreographed swordfights.
H&R has some figure which are pretty good, nearly CinC quality. GHQ is the best you can buy but it's several times as expensive so you need to figure out which models you want lots of details and which you can compromise one
Jeremiah Hall
It's amazing how much of WW2 generally goes unrepresented >the Aleutian Campaign >the 1940 East Africa Campaign >the liberation of Vichy areas like Madagascar >the Franco-Siamese War >the resistance fighting in the Dutch East Indies >the Lapland War >the 1945 Soviet invasion of Manchuria
Early war is definitely a neglected period, I think Poland 1939 deserves more wargaming attention than it gets People just seem to love the fancy late war tanks and the war in Europe 1944-5
John Carter
I'd like to do Filipino guerrillas vs Japanese occupiers.
Also the Aleutian campaign but most of the fighting was really only one glorious banzai charge.
Ian Hughes
>Interested in battlegroup >Oh cool black friday sales >Get two books I want for 45 bucks! >Go to check out >Shipping is 40 dollars to where I live
Nope.
Colton Wilson
>all those people scrambling off the hull just before the explosion Bless their souls
John Evans
Those fucking lips. Otherwise the camo is nice.
Lincoln Diaz
Having already the starter USA army for Bolt Action, what are some good units to buy/add?
Joshua Wood
Thanks. I'll check out the H&R stuff as well.
Ethan Jenkins
>I think Poland 1939 deserves more wargaming attention than it gets >there's an entire company dedicated to doing plastic kits for the 1939 campaign
I'd say that campaign is fully and well represented by First to Fight. I hope their ruleset will be translated to English as well.
What's not represented that well IMHO is anything on the Eastern front that is not Germans. Still nobody makes 28mm Hungarian infantry, and it's scarce in 1/72 as well.
Jacob Rivera
looks good. good job on the weathering
Adrian Allen
Alouette III
Recommend this book for anyone interested in the Rhodesian bush wars. Very interesting read.
Brayden Phillips
Had another go at Flashpoint:Golan. This time the scenario we generated has Syria annexing Lebanon, Israel declaring war, and Jordan (and the rest of the world, for that matter) not giving much of a fuck. This scenario was noteworthy in that all Lebanese troops are disbanded, so the country is very much up for grabs.
Hostilities began on the Golan heights, where the Syrians pushed back the Israelis from Mount Hermon in the north, and the Israelis blowing apart the defenses in the south
Bentley Green
The heights a little bit later
Jayden Hill
In Lebanon, a small group of Syrian special forces outflank an Israeli invasion force; The Israelis the move to outflank the outflankers, a situation which the rules handle beautifully with a single die roll
Levi Russell
Hostilities erupt on the Jordan river, the Israelis opening fire in the south, and Jordanian engineers building a makeshift bridge
Jace Watson
It turns out that everyone in the south of Jordan is so competent that neither side can push through, (In FPG you don't know the quality of your soldiers before they see action), but crossing the bridge and crushing the opposition, the Jordanians strike towards the interior of Israel...
Nathaniel Cruz
...but Israel manages to mobilize an armored division at the very last moment
Jayden Miller
Israel really took a pounding on the Golan heights, as Syrian reinforcements stabilized their southern flank
Dylan Green
But were doing pretty good in Lebanon; as in, their units were in shambles and lacking supply, but the Syrian forces were virtually eliminated
Anthony Gonzalez
As the Iraqi army draws close (not sure what to do with them, since they're not actually at war with Israel), our game draws to a close; Israel had lost enough forces for them not to be able to really regain the momentum, and their goal of conquering Lebanon was far away.
All in all, it's a damn good game that takes forever, and it's really difficult to truly grasp all the opportunities you have, considering the loooong list of capabilities your headquarters have
Parker Edwards
While it's in German (obviously) I thought it might be worth sharing this official 2016 guide to the uniforms and insigina of the modern Bundeswehr
That was a very bloody war, major disaster for the Israelis when Jordan got involved
Lucas Lee
It doesn't say it's on sale for me. Is it gone?
Elijah Lee
Which time frame of the war are you building for?
Andrew Nguyen
I would like to have an army list for early war and a second one for late war.
Sebastian White
Some are pretty terrible too, it really depends on the particular model
>USA in the early war I kid, but really I doubt you need more infantry, but some elite stuff like rangers or the Nisei might be cool, or a tank destroyer to go alongside the sherman.
The band of brothers starter would be handy to pick up for late war stuff if you have anyone around you that would be interested in splitting it.
Charles Clark
No, it's still up. I can see they don't state there is a sale, but the prices are updated. Around 10-12£ per vehicle.
Jaxon Morgan
Also if you buy something from GHQ and it's missing a part, don't expect a replacement. emailed several times over the last few months, not a single response.
Hudson Sanders
Getting something random you have no idea about is part of the fun actually. If you don't enjoy surprises, don't join.
Isaiah Kelly
Its actually just one guy in here who is always pissed as soon as someone mentions WW2 Germans. Probably because his relatives were raped in a polish camp or something like that.
Just ignore that guy.
Leo Ramirez
Everything WW2 is 50% off in their webstore. (thats around 10 instead of 20 for a single tank)
Landon White
Buying books from PSC is expensive. The cheapest source for Battlegroup books is from Caliver Books UK: less 10%usually and about £6.50 postage per book. Their site is old and clunky, but worth the hassle.
Justin Collins
Did you guys get anything good at Black Friday?
I got Fighting Formations: Grossdeutschland Motorized Infantry division for 23 bucks from some guy who inherited an estate basically unplayed, with laminated player aids and cards, and two GMT trays included
It looks really fucking good too, although I would have preferred for the asset cards to be unlaminated, so I could just sleeve them
Elijah Bennett
Nope. Had no money for months. >this kills the wargamer
Josiah Bailey
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Easton Perry
my god, i cant understand the langauge, but the pictures say everything i need to know. 80% of them looks like a slacker who only put up the uniform cause they wanted to be in this military fashion magazine. Especially the women, I mean the one at page 40 looks like the only one who would take the work seriously, others are either posing or shamelessly pushing their chest to make their boob look bigger (page 30). Disgusting.
Dylan Butler
They might actually be models, some of them anyway.
Logan Garcia
according wikipedia there is 200-300 thousand people in the army. I dont think they couldnt find anyone who can present himself/herself decently in an offical document. It would not only reduce cost hiring these jackasses, but it would help the authenticity.
Jaxon Anderson
>Expecting efficient and sensible solutions from any major military >mfw
Zachary Hill
The uniforms look like garbage anyway.
Anthony Collins
not strictly /hwg/ but i ordered 4 Tamiya 1/48 HMMVWs for 6,99 each (which is incredibly cheap) and 3 different T-34 (one 76 and 2 85) from Hobby Boss in 1/48 too. Some might end up being used for Wargaming, but i also enjoy building kits for display.
I was checking hobby stores for good deals on miniatures, but i didn't see anything i couldn't resist desu.
Recommendations for eastern european village buildings and/or Fireforge and perry plastic boxes for good prices are welcome though.
Ayden Sanchez
I ordered a mat for 15mm L'art de la Guerre. Couldn't find any sales for minis I wanted which was a little disapointing.
Dylan Brooks
Are there any rules for ancient street brawls?
Gangs of Rome already seems not in my vein.
Jose Hall
Whats wrong with Gangs of Rome?
Nathaniel Evans
>50 T-34/85 >300 or so riflemen because ghq won't make smg models, which I understand because that scale >4 zis-2s >whatever is in the heavy weapons pack exactly Currently digging to see who engaged this unit in the time frame I'm doing and will purchase them during their next sale.
Jose Hernandez
>Gangs of Rome
is it out yet? anyone have scans?
Josiah Torres
so, exciting Saturday night lads?
Lucas Jenkins
yep, painted my 15cm sFH 13-1, ordered some discount vallejo paints and then had sex. great night.
Bentley Jackson
What would make my night great, HUGE, was to get a copy of "The Face of Battle"... now THAT would be epic even.
