>Literally created to defend the world against chaos, which they do to this day and would gladly fight and die to do just that. >Has a system in which everyone has a place and a job being productive to society >They only have problems with the non chaotic/non skaven races because those assholes have a bad habit of invading their sacred lands and stealing their sacred plaques due to their bizarre obsession with gold. >Are Dinosaurs
Lizardman are the Good Guys in Warhammer Fantasy, this is an objective fact.
Ayden Moore
Didn't they cause the ruin of the dwarves via creating earthquakes, because some skink-brain thought that's what the Old Ones wanted them to do?
Dominic Evans
Pretty much nailed it OP. They also had the only story elements of the End Times that I legitimately liked.
Mason Rogers
Who says the Old Ones didn't want them to do it? Maybe they hate the stunties too.
Isaiah Adams
I kinda wish they were in 40k too but with a mix of crazy dinos in old one tier energy spaceships and power armor but also some mystical types around just to smash shit with magic rocks.
Also I'd love to see angelic dino creatures in power armor wrestling bloodthirsters.
Luke Thompson
No they weren't. They were created by the old ones to clear out any unfavourable races when they fucked around with the old world. They only dealt with chaos when the old ones fucked it up entirely and the elves had to fix their shit. Lizardmen fucked it all up.
Luke Baker
Who doesn't?
Tyler Morris
All of this except >lmao guise dinos xxdddd Every time, just fucking stop.
Connor Harris
They were but the instruments of the old ones, it's not their fault their masters fucked up. Of course they're more neutral than good, but still they literally did nothing wrong, they just keep doing what they were created to do.
Cooper Cruz
Which is precisely why they fuck up. If all they do is follow orders and don't innovate, they're doomed to falure. They're just dwarves but less hairy.
Jace Fisher
Couldn't they invent some Aztec like name for them? Naming them after tickling porn is disgusting, hell even Sotekli Sotek's kin or some shit
Jordan Garcia
Do the lizardmen actually do anything relevant in Warhammer? For the most part they sit in their little isolated corner of the world and mumble about the great plan until they get nuked in the end times.
Angel Green
Well, in that case the greenskins and skaven also did nothing wrong because they just keep doing what they were created to do.
Henry Thompson
The end times where they saved the world at least twice, before loading their entire population into ancient spaceships and flying away?
Kayden Clark
>Naming them after tickling porn
Bentley Flores
Don't do it user, don't make my same mistakes
Colton Sullivan
Being applicable to morality means you have a choice. If a rock falls on you, you'll die. It's not the rocks fault. It had no choice in the matter. Same goes for a spiked pit trap, or a land mine or a robotic turret programmed to shoot anything that moves in certain area. Biological automata are no different.
If you can only choose evil, your not evil. You're just a hazard.
Nolan Martin
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Dominic Taylor
Star skaven would be rad, too.
Side question: what kind of person would play lizardmen? Or Skaven?
Joshua Ward
[Laughs in cold blood]
Camden Brooks
Clan Skyre Warlock-Engineer.
Roll with a pair of Warplock Revolvers, Poison Globes, gas mask, and the tiniest Warpfire Thrower imaginable.
Camden Moore
You forgot the part where they commit genocide on Albion.
Jaxson Jenkins
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Eli Russell
Where is that piece of lore from? I remember it from a long ass time ago but i could never find the actual source
Dominic Flores
that was the skaven
Zachary Richardson
/wfg/ says it's from the 6th edition armybook.
Connor Jackson
well thats good news, now i just have to dig through all my crap here to find it, i have it lying baout somewhere
Jeremiah Hernandez
The Lizardmen caused the tectonic activity but the Skaven were the ones who took advantage of it and invaded the underway.
Camden Anderson
OP is not a faggot, confirmed.
Liam Howard
>religious >follow their gods word without question
Automatically bad people
Jeremiah Cooper
Absolutely euphoric.
Bentley Rodriguez
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Owen Morgan
This is especially true in Warhammer
Wyatt Thomas
I'm not into warhammer fantasy but I'm a huge fan of 40k and seeing them there would be pretty interesting to be honest.
I wonder how the Imperium would react to finding some other empire that's too large to just exterminate on principle, doesn't want to invade their worlds or destroy the Imperial way of life, just wants to kill chaos wherever it rears its ugly head and the only thing you can do to aggravate them is invade their territory unprovoked.
I mean they have diplomatic relations with the Tau and at first thought they might be able to have peace with them, until the Tau turned out to be a bunch of expansionist totalitarians.
Brandon Bell
Best race, worst ending. Fuck End Times.
Luis Young
The 360 noscope just for the disrespect lol
Jordan Davis
Only reason the Imperium "tolerates" the Tau is that they are busy with bigger threats, like tyranids. Tau are on the List, but this being 40k, lot of shit has higher place there. Chaos, tyranids, necrom, orks, Q'orl, if they ever get their appendages on working warp drive...
Lincoln Bennett
This is a rad image. I love the idea of Skavenslaves being surgically modified so that most of their cranium is gone, that's a perfect feature for 40K Skaven.
Bentley Cox
>I wonder how the Imperium would react to finding some other empire that's too large to just exterminate on principle
Doesn't exist. The point of the Imperium is that its xenophobia has annihilated all pragmatism and reason. The Imperium could meet a xenos empire ten times its own size and it would still try to kill them.
Grayson Kelly
Its not a warpfire thrower on his back its a warp-lightning condenser.
Carson Phillips
The entire Imperium isn't made up of screaming fanatics, blind xenophobia is what the masses are fed but there are plenty in places of power that are more reasonable or pragmatic.
The existence of such a race would have interesting ramifications I think, it'd probably make an outright civil war between the radicals and puritans in the Inquisition, the Xeno Hybris faction would be tripping over themselves to set up diplomatic relations.
Angel Sanchez
Fucking remove rat.
Owen Walker
>retarded autists who spend their time making up fake gods based on a comet >spend every billisecond hoping a dead or dying Pepe will far in its sleep so they can interpret as divine instructions >don't even have dicks >autistic ally obsessed with gold despite having no real society beyond that of a beehive or concept of independence >never contribute anything at all during major Chaos invasions, which have all been stopped by some combination of humans, dwarfs, and elves >fucked up an entire mountain range based o a typo, screwing over a key race in resisting chaos, shortening the time the world has left by milennia
They're trash and their fans are too.
Jaxon Peterson
How is 'Saved the world multiple times, then fucked off in awesome ancient spaceships' the worst ending? I hated the End Times, but the Lizardmens part of it was the only aspect I actually liked.
Brandon Peterson
No one likes or acknowledges the end times except Smegmar shills.
Nope.
Isaac Mitchell
This is the proper, updated version (and also the one Slavfag has mangled to complain about Stormcasts again).
Logan Moore
I dunno, I don’t think the ogres have really done anything wrong.
They really don’t fight out of malice, but unrelenting hunger.
Asher Jenkins
Relevant.
Jaxon Murphy
>created to be resistant to chaos and a last ditch weapon by the old ones >worship a minor chaos deity that makes them etenrally hungry and doesnt even give any usefull mutations
Ogres are chill but that great maw deal is pure bullshit
Blake Watson
>old ones solve every problem but hunger >chaos is like “nah, bro” >makes the ogres more hungry
Literally the only thing the chaos gods could do to the ogres is make their weakness slightly worse.
Ogres are basically the best race, barring none.
Eli Sullivan
To fall back on alignment shorthand, they're lawful neutral. They have their orders and those orders are going to be followed. So only good as far as being the enemies of chaos is good from our perspective.
Matthew Bailey
Hua hua was right
Sebastian Evans
Reminder to not reply to the post above.
Levi Adams
post dinosaurs!
Joshua Diaz
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Hunter Peterson
Those with rational inclinations in the Imperium are outnumbered and outranked by those with entirely selfish or zealous motivations, and are fighting mostly in vain against the inertia of an immense, uncaring bureaucratic system that is heavily stacked against them. Most of those in positions of power are pragmatic only in the sense that they are good at holding on to power; those that don't buy into the Imperial Creed are an extreeeeeeeeme minority that have to hide their opinions or face excommunication and death. Xenos Hybris for example are a tiny, tiny order that exists within one sector, and are considered heretics by the vast majority of the Inquisition.
There'd be no civil war, the Imperium would take the same stance toward Space Lizardmen as they do toward every other race: kill on sight.
Jacob Flores
We don't even know what the Great Maw is. Personally I don't believe it's a Chaos God.
Henry Kelly
kroq gar campaign will be so much better once kangz are released
Oliver Evans
Southlands are gonna be full of bling between Kroq and Settra.
Ethan Ross
preach. I'm not starting a kroq-gar ME until then gonna get hype as fuck
what if its just a giant hole. like there's nothing special about it, its just a really deep hole that the ogres throw stuff into and worship.
Michael Martinez
Durthu is the true hero of the setting and anyone who disagrees is a scrub.
Nathan Mitchell
>what if its just a giant hole. like there's nothing special about it, its just a really deep hole that the ogres throw stuff into and worship.'
It's not, it's a giant sarlacc pit filled with teeth and flesh.
Caleb Ramirez
Explain it to me.
Brayden Price
>Durthu hellbent on genociding the Old World >Kroq-Gar hellbent on genociding the Southlands >Mazdamundi hellbent on genociding the New World
Truly I pity those not fortunate enough to be born in glorious Ulthuan.
Matthew Hill
I mean, yeah, that's what the ogres say. but I find the idea of ogres being pants on head retarded pretty hysterical.
Robert Kelly
The total war models are so good.
William King
Stop posting this /v/ garbage. Play Horned Rat, the awesome Crusader King 2 Mod, and the much better Call of Warhammer if you want to play a Total War game that hasn't been made for casuals.
Levi Baker
>historic screeching
Justin Jackson
>not *raptor screeching*
One job, user.
Angel Harris
I’m older editions, Lizardmen used Nahua-seeming names, but they were actually puns. For example, one of them would be Chief Xilikankane - chili con carne.
Jordan Kelly
*In. Damnit.
Jace James
Thin limb Frogs are way better than flabby armed Toads.
Single worst design choice CA made with TWW.
Andrew King
So if the Lizards end game is simply nuking the whole planet how has it taken this long for them to manage to come up with a way to do it?
I know at the end of the day it's just so the game can have it's weird storyline of all the factions trying to do a big ritual for some reason or another but is wiping the planet really the best they could come up with for lizards?
John Nguyen
Those lizards look pretty monstruous. Was it before they gave them an Aztec theme?
Connor Davis
Cool, you figured out what every other 15 year old realised when they picked up the game Also fuck lizards who the fuck-fuck wants to be productive-work when you could just be a massive dick all the time, and literally rape the world and it's inhabitants effectively? Also I'm still salty about Middenheim, they only survived because the had walls and streets paved with PLOT Finally, we Skaven thread now
Anthony Bennett
What happened to Middenheim?
Evan Cooper
It's a comet made of warpstone called down by the Celestial Emperor's court wizards in Cathay, aimed to basically nuke the ogres' homeland to stop their constant invasions. Ogres, being halfwits, worshiped this rock of raw magic, which became a sort of pseudo-god owing to so many wills acting in unison on a massive nexus of pure magic. This weakened the ogres immensely as a race.
Just as planned by the (Tzeentch-worshiping) wizards of Cathay.
Hunter Richardson
>...boi
Christian Kelly
Because the World's Edge Mountains were designed to literally be the Dwarfs home.
Adrian Carter
Looks like 5th edition, they looked much more primal and their design was more primitive than aztec, though they were already based on pre-columbian America.