There are two types of civilization

Those that obsesses over gaudy ornamentation, their ancient legacy and spectacle, and the austere efficient utilitarians which overwhelm them and subjugate them.

And then there are the weird, isolated, and homeschooled civilizations that get left alone long enough to come up with austere, efficient ways of wasting time and ornamenting things.

Sort of. Looking at the scheme of things, with a few exceptions, Roman and Japanese designs seem fairly subued overall, but they put so much effort into the little things.

and then they make their culture the gaudy, ornamentation part with ancient legacy and spectacles, the intangible aspects of their society seen only when two members interact.

At least that's how I can gather it. I've been wrong. Very wrong.

>Post a modern interpretation from a "I had to start giving out gold-plated and diamond-studded swords because otherwise the legionairs just keep fucking tossing the things whenever the going gets tough."-culture

Tell me OP, which is the Romans then?

They were austere utilitarians with an efficient military that subjugated all others they came in contact with

And yet they always sought to prove some ancient roots to their civilization, built grandiose things to commemorate themselves, organised great spectacles for the sake of it, and spared no expense and actual human lives just to entertain themselves

Tell me, OP, which is it?

related to traditional games how....?

Except for, like, all the thousands of examples where your assumption is completely wrong.

I know you're posting on a board dedicated to pretending because you like pretending to be intelligent, but you should try to copypaste from actually smart people (don't worry, nobody will notice) instead of coming up with your own homegrown idiocy.

Counterpoint: there are more than two types of civilization.

Maybe provide a couple of examples then?

The latter tends to transform into the former though. Success breeds laziness, the fruits of virtue incite to vice.

No, success breeds a corrupt and insular ruling-class that can no longer relate to the vast majority of their subjects.

>austere
Romans were gaudy as fuck and loved their celebrations though

Those Roman statues look a lot less romantic with all that (admittedly historically accurate) paint smeared all over it.

Austere Civilizations:
Inuit, Sioux, Iroquois, Bedouins, Central-asia pastoralists, Neanderthals, etc.
Please enlighten me on how these efficient utilitarians dominate the modern world.

Only because you're used to seeing them unpainted. If you had learned since you were a child that roman statues were brightly and starkly painted, that aesthetic would be romantic to you.

Of course they look bad
When whoever painted the face, isn't a good painter.
The tunic is a solid 10/10, but everything else isn't as well done.

Pst. OP. I got a secret for you.

Those two are the same civilization.

Only, they're seperated by a handful of generations.

It takes an immense amount of historical ignorance to say this with a straight face.

>Romans
>Obsessed with their (claimed) ties with the Ancient Greeks
>Builders of some of the most colossal palaces and stadiums in history
>Organisers of some of the most massive and and debauched parties in history
>Lead by some of the most selfish and corrupt leaders in history
>Half their empire collapsed thanks to its inept bureaucracy and fractured political landscape
>austere
>efficient
>utilitarians

Ahahahaha shut the fuck up.

So... we wuz kangz?

There are two types of people:
1. Those who can extrapolate from insufficient data.

You're describing 2 stages of civilization not two different types of civilization.

>stage 2

That's dumb. Bling is univeral among humans, claims to ancient legacy are standard and spectacles fulfill important polticial and social functions in every culture.

Interesting summary. Care to elaborate?

The tunic is solid colors. The shading comes from the lighting.

>mfw user didn't realise you don't need to draw the shading in 3D and that it'll come naturally.

>mfw the Romans had hologram technology 2000 years ago
The things you learn

With miniatures, you generally do need to paint the shading to make it look right.

>THIN YOUR PAINTS

> and then they make their culture the gaudy, ornamentation part with ancient legacy and spectacles, the intangible aspects of their society seen only when two members interact.
What do you mean by this?

Both, as in any civilisation. OPs idea is stupid

Ornamentation usually appears when you don't need to spend all day struggling to survive

Stone =/= cloth user. You need to do some shading to make it look right.

2. Horses.

>they rejected my janitor application again

>ther r 2 civilisations: dum ones who like the fancy stuf lik jewlry and the BADASS EFFICENT STONE COLD BADASSES WHO KICK THEY'RE BUTS
A provocative thesis indeed

Congratulations you have the best summing up of the japanese civilization I have ever seen, good job

You're thinking of the Empire/Dominate. The Roman Republic was pretty austere, spartan, and utilitarian for most of its reign.

There are two types of Civilizations: those that are evil, such as the brutish orc or deceitful dark elves from below, and the fair skinned good ones who destroy them root and stem to their last whimpering babe.

>There are two types of Civilizations: those that are evil, such as the brutish orc or deceitful dark elves from below, and the fair skinned good ones who destroy them...
>What's that? I just mentioned TWO kinds of "evil" civilizations? That's not really what I... This is supposed to be a speech, you know... well, I suppose you have a point.
>There are three types of civilizations: those that are evil and brutal, such as the orcs; those that are evil and deceitful, like the dark elves from below; and then there's us, who destroy them. Fine. But as I was saying, broadly speaking, you have two types...
>Hmm? What? Fine then!
>There are fou -- fine, fine, FIVE types of civilizations: brutish orcs, deceitful dark elves, those dark fellows in the desert with the spices who aren't really very evil but who aren't exactly very friendly when they visit, Winstonia where we do most of our banking, and us. We're pale and we kill the other ones. Er, and we're... we're the good guys.
>Sorry, yes, just the first two, or we wouldn't have any spices. Cinnamon doesn't grow here. And banking, of course, this raiment doesn't pay for itsel -- look here, you're asking quite a lot of complicated questions about world politics to confuse me, so if you don't shut up I'm going to put this sword up your -- yes, good, thank you.
>As I was saying: there are TWO types of civilizations: evil, brutiful dark elves, and fair skinned... whimpering babes... stop laughing God dammit!

Nero pls.