I'm genuinely curious, why do people like Word Bearers?
>Get told not to do something that is the antithesis of your job and purpose
>Do it anyways
>Get caught
>Get punished
>Throw a temper tantrum and fuck everything up for everyone forever
I realize that's a drastic simplification but seriously, to me they have no redeemable or even likable qualities.
>inb4 BEST PRIMARCH THREAD
It's a subjective opinion and I'm genuinely curious. Word Bearer anons?
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They didn't really throw a temper tantrum they're more a tragic result of both the Emperor's mismanagement and the corruption of Kor Phaeron & Erebus.
Lorgar, although a primarch, was naive, believed the best in all around him. He also was a priest rather than a warrior by choice of vocation, his optimism led him to believe that faith and support of your fellow man was the best way for him to achieve a golden future for mankind, rather than conquest and ignorance. This faith and optimism also meant he didn't kill and ended up listening to people he really shouldn't have.
The Emperor handled Lorgar really poorly. Instead of sitting him down and telling him the truth, and explaining the reasoning behind what he was doing and the truth about the nature of the Warp, he kept him in the dark. Instead of growing his son's strengths and appealing to his nature he rebuked him, destroying the one thing that tied Lorgar to the Emperor, faith in the Emperor. He did this by committing a war crime, to the one Primarch, apart from Vulkan, who was against such type of action. Put simply the Emperor fucked up, Lorgar's fall is mainly his fault.
The other problem was Erebus and Kor Phaeron. Lorgar, believing the best in people and humanity, did not see either as the monsters they were. They waited until Lorgar was vulnerable and questioning his fate before whispering long practiced words he wanted to hear, having lost all faith.
This is what makes Lorgar interesting. The tragedy of his situation.
Now as for the Word Bearers, and why someone would like them. They were always religious fanatics and were always going to be having inherited their fathers need for faith.
As for the appeal, what is wrong with a cult legion of fanatical satanist Jihadis? A Gene Enhanced devil worshiping Taliban. I mean take all your themes of cheap B movie cults (like Temple of Doom) mix it up with Isis and throw in demons and possession it does make for a pretty cool faction. To get the Word Bearers probably listen to the dialogue of Eliphas in DOW: Dark Crusade, and have a look at the art in the FW books. They may not be as powerful as individual soldiers as other legions, but along with the themes thats kinda what makes them awesome.
>his optimism led him to believe that faith and support of your fellow man was the best way for him to achieve a golden future for mankind, rather than conquest and ignorance.
While he was not a conqueror, he actualy enforced ignorance. While the entire Imperium is in a golden age of reason, his legions are the only retards around trying to push the god-emperor thing.
>He did this by committing a war crime, to the one Primarch, apart from Vulkan, who was against such type of action.
The WB did slaughtered innocents en mass when they thought they weren't being faithful enough.
What happened to Lorgar was 100% justified. The only sad part is that the Emperor didn't sent Russ and Curze to fix the WB, if you know what I mean.
>He actually enforced ignorance
He enforced ignorance because he was kept ignorant. Again this one goes firmly back on the Emperor.
As for the slaughter of innocents in pursuit of the Imperial truth name we one Primarch not guilty of these sins, even Vulkan is guilty. The knowledge of this slaughter drove Curze mad, wore Perturabo down, and drove Magnus to explore dangerous methods in order to avoid it. The sadder truth is that these innocents needed to die, the changes the Emperor needed to implement demanded it.
Simply put however, most of the hate many seem to have on here of Lorgar, is that of all of the Primarchs, he probably has the most in common with many of us fa/tg/uys. He's naive, chose the wrong friends who betrayed or harmed him, believed the best in people only to have it dashed, wore the disdain of his brothers and peers for simply trying to be a good person, pursued his passions despite this disdain, felt apart from his borthers and fathers but wanted to be a part of that brotherhood, troubled relationship with parental figure who does not understand nor makes any attempt even to try, and most of all he was more prone to fucking up like a human being. Most of what you guys hate about Lorgar is, if you examine it honestly, of all the Primarchs he is the most like you.
chaos undivided is fucking gay
Who even plays WB or BL
They're great villians. They work incredibly well in that role and are enjoyable for it.
And if every legion fell perfectly in line there wouldn't be a plot, you need a group to deviate from their job and purpose for something to actually happen.
This. Well put.
Liking Word Bearers is not the same as liking Lorgar
Why do I have to explain the reasoning behind my dudes?
Why can't I have crazy demonic superhuman murdermen in space armour summoning daemons and shit just because they ARE evil?