>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android: >Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA
Got 2 nid lists here that need critiqued. First list I played once and had a blast with, but those hive guard are staring me down and I want to try them in list 2.
Heavy Venom Cannons are so much better than Tyrannofexes it's not even funny.
2k Kronos Tyranids (before 50 pt hike in Malanthrope cost) Battallion 3x Tyrant with wings, HVC, monstrous rending claws, toxin sacs (1 has miasma cannon) 3x Warriors with talons, 2 deathspitters and a venom cannon
Spearhead Malanthrope 1x Carnifex with senses, spore cysts, HVC, twin deathspitters with slimer maggots, bone mace Exocrine Exocrine
Spearhead Prime with boneswords, flesh hooks, deathspitter 3 Biovores Carnifex with senses, spore cysts, HVC, twin deathspitters with slimer maggots, bone mace Carnifex with senses, spore cysts, HVC, twin deathspitters with slimer maggots, bone mace
New list: less HVC but more Impaler. Cannons
2k Kronos Nids Battallion 2x Tyrant with wings, HVC, monstrous rending claws, toxin sacs, adrenal glands (1 has miasma cannon) 3x Warriors with talons, 2 deathspitters and a venom cannon
Spearhead Prime with boneswords, deathspitter, toxin sacs 2x Carnifex with senses, spore cysts, HVC, twin deathspitters with slimer maggots, bone mace Exocrine Exocrine
Vanguard Prime with boneswords, deathspitter, toxin sacs 3 Hive Guard 3 Hive Guard 3 Hive Guard
Will the hive guard pull enough damage through to be worth a unit of Biovores, 2 HVC and a tyrant's melee/psychic potential?
Blake Hill
I realized today that nothing about this hobby is fun to me anymore. I just dont feel anything.
Ian Wilson
I literally refuse to play until i have my army fully painted. This has left me mostly shit posting on Veeky Forums for the past 2 years.
Leo Sanders
fuck the tau
Carter Flores
Aaaaarrrrggghhh
Logan Ortiz
Anyone have a good image of "da rulez" with orks in it? I'm making a pamphlet for a progressive game some people are playing (armies move on to later battles with effects and what not) and I want a good cover page.
Also
Owen Stewart
Is this a problem with your hobby or your life?
Juan Wright
The new meta
Tyler Williams
The 6k we played today we both agreed to at least a 3 color min. The older I get the less I want to see the grey tide.
you know it. I've been in this hobby too long haha
Luke Harris
...
Benjamin Nelson
You just noticed?
Adrian Walker
I dont feel anything except a mixture of anger, sadness and frustration in varying combonations
Landon Howard
Is this still true?
William Rogers
1x Exocrine or 4x Hive Guard?
Thomas Ward
So how are people kitting their devilfish? I'm gonna have two with Breachers and one with a Strike Team.
Lincoln Howard
Step one: buy Necrons Step two: spay them with Leadbelcher Step three: wash in abrax earthshade
done.
Christian Rivera
Tyranid or Admech?
Owen Robinson
Are you young and handsome enough to turn this edge into a singing career?
Owen Green
With the new price drop to harlequins embrace making it 1 piont more that caress I ask you guys what is a better weapon: S4 ap-3 or S5 ap-2?
Henry Morgan
We dont have a codex yet, I'm optimistic though
Joseph Richardson
yep
mobile, accurate, quality firepower still beats out slow, shitty, inaccurate firepower
Thomas Wood
I play Blood Angels sadly enough. So
Julian Walker
>Earthshade
Nuln oil. Then you'll want to do your highlight drybrush layer, and move onto painting the black and green if you're just going Sautekh. If you wanna do a custom Necron dynasty without going to the bother of a non-metallic scheme, it's pretty simple to paint any raised plates such as warrior's shoulders in a dynasty colour.
Cameron Barnes
nope,im old and fat, the only thing I can do is kill myself
Carson Moore
Gun drones are cheap and can come off to protect your breachers. Seems better than smart misses that are expensive and only okay.
Jaxson White
Yes, just like MtG benefits from having "trap" or "Timmy" cards that look appealing, but are actually bad choices, it's important for 40k to benefit from bad-choice codexes. It rewards the better players, who have the sense not to pick them.
Jaxon Cook
do you like robots or bugs
Jaxon Williams
but the timmy armies are eldar, marines, and tau, and theyre all great
Jaxson Baker
Do you want your troops to move around the battlefield or remain mostly motionless?
Luis Robinson
Waiting the two weeks for my new blood angels Codex and I can’t stop thinking about how cool a dark Eldar army would be.
Very rare to see dark Eldar on the table and for a relatively small line, they are pretty effective even with an index list.
And fuck, their line is still amazing for 7 year old plastics.
Owen Gomez
waaaaay too much effort user.
Kevin Clark
Magic is literally just a system for funnelling large crates of booster packs to secondary market scalpers though. It's a low maintenance money printing farm.
>Orks >DAKKA! DAKKA! DAKKA!: 1 CP, allows an ork Infantry or Biker units to generate extra shots on a 6+ to hit in the shooting phase. >The Ork bonuses are a bit more subtle than some of the others...Dakka has taken some criticisms but I really like it for units like War Bikers, Lootas and especially Flash Gitz, although it is quite good for just basic Shoota Boyz, too. Mathematically it isn’t going to set the world on fire of course, but I think it is important to remember it is only 1 CP and if you really need to take something down and want to trust a bit to luck, this is a good one. I think it will get used quite a bit more than some folks think. I use it pretty much any time I shoot my Lootas, Tank Bustas or Flash Gitz, personally unless I am saving the CP for something specific. The extra damage can be extremely useful. --Reece
Gavin Murphy
Im going to kill myself, how should I destroy my army so I can post it to youtube
Lets hear some creative ideas
Ryan Baker
Well, don't pick Necrons if you aren't willing to put in the effort to paint them then.
Joshua Ross
Eat it.
Levi Jones
It sounds like you've given this some thought. You can kill yourself, or figure out what you are angry about, frustrated by, and so on, and channel that into a way to kill the president.
Sebastian King
>Ork bonuses are a bit more subtle than some of the others
Oh fuck you
Caleb Jenkins
I hope they release ynnari and harlequins with them.
Jackson Hernandez
>I can't understand that it's mathematically worse than rerolling a to-wound. Oh wow, and these people were supposed to help balance this shit.
Christian Jackson
Eh, I've got the same but better as CSM that just flat out doubles my volume of fire and would like to know why the ork version is just worse.
Carter Jackson
>the Character targeting rule changed, disallowing you from targeting them if any enemy models are closer, whether they are visible or not.
> it also prevents “Rhino-scoping” which is intentionally moving models to block your line of sight to anything but a character,
Wait what? Somebody explain this to me, it cant really be this stupid right?
Jaxson Clark
Why do people listen to Reece? The guy has a voice like he gargles with glass shards.
Julian Wood
I like them both. Extragalactic horrors and Old Gods shit is my favorite kind of fantasy/sci fi villain, but I also like the Fallout-y worship of ancient technology that no one understands anymore.
They're both pretty neat.
Pic related
Anthony Scott
>Necrons >Effort
pick one
Robert Kelly
My favorite part is when he justified it by saying, "Mathmatically it isn't going to set the world on fire, but it's fun to use!"
Owen Gomez
Can anyone more up to date on what we know about CA tell me what the Sisters relic statline is?
Jayden Cooper
You mean don't pick up the hobby. Necrons is one of the easiest to paint.
Jaxon Garcia
Why do people get into tabletop minis if they find painting to be a chore?
I mean, you can build the model but you can’t put paint on a brush?
Luis Miller
We'z da suttlest gitz around ya kno
Dylan Lopez
It really is. You can't target a character unless they are are closest. period. full stop. Previously, since your own units can block line of sight, you could turn tac squads into snipers by positioning rhinos/razorbacks to block all sight of anything that wasn't the character you wanted to shoot at.
Jacob Price
>gotta go fast Tyranids
Hive Fleet Kraken, specifically
Zachary Kelly
That frontline review in the OP may be full of shit, but it also reproduces all the relics, traits, and strats in very readable and accurate detail. Just avoid reading some of the rest. Otherwise I got these for everyone but GSC and Knights.
Tyler King
I know a guy who talks like him, but he had an emergency tracheotomy when he was born. Makes me wonder if Reecius had a similar situation.
William Flores
Building a model is probably 5% of the total effort required for a passable painted model
Logan Carter
So I managed to kill Mortarion and 3/4 of a Death Guard army today with my Deathwing, but lost by 1 point (He had first blood which helped him win).
Anyone else had any luck against Primarchs? Who would you say is more fun to face - Magnus or Mortarion?
Zachary Morales
Pull out of it user. Youre depressed.
Kevin Harris
it's effectively a 6% increase of hits for 1 CP. It's pretty garbage.
Cooper Morris
>mfw ravenguard have a warlord trait that makes your warlord immune to overwatch >mfw it's completely unnessisary b/c of the character rule
Dominic Adams
I find myself with two boxes of Primaris Aggressors, one of Reivers, and a Repulsor tank. I don't actually play Space Marines, and I've already got a full AdMech and Necron army.
So the question is, I'm torn between holding onto this stuff and slowly acquiring more SM stuff, or selling/trading for more Admech. Thoughts?
Xavier Peterson
>You mean don't pick up the hobby. Necrons is one of the easiest to paint
Well, exactly. If you can't be assed painting the two secondary colours on the generic Necron colour scheme, you aren't ready to paint.
Also nitpick: Sautekh is one of the easiest to paint. You can also bother to get creative and paint them anything other than mostly single tone silver.
Jordan Smith
Why do other armies get a stratagem to shoot twice while orks, who have worse shooting than anyone, get a worse version of said stratagem
This has to be on purpose right, they cant be that clueless can they. Someone at GW has it out for orks
Robert Nguyen
Can we just go ahead and put youtube.com/watch?v=9L32YTGfBcA in the OP so that people stop asking for what we know about Chapter Approved. I get that it's audio only, but it still covers the whole thing.
So a flat out more than triple the damage outpout of a maul that was already the better choice.
Ryder Taylor
Thanks dude. >a flat 3 damage power sword I had thought this was too good to be true. Well, time to push in the shit of any T4 Marinefags, and for less than 50 points to boot.
Andrew Taylor
I think it's just that CA is untested garbage they churned out to sell a book.
Aaron Williams
It's really retarded that units locked in combat count for this.
Cooper Sanchez
Reece looks like a person that was intended to grow no taller than 4'2".
Jaxon James
>feeding views
>trusting 1d4chan Where the fuck do you think they get their leaks?
Leo Brooks
didnt they clarify that the character rule doesnt count in overwatch because its only in the shooting phase
Liam Roberts
I mean, whats the fucking worse that could have happened if it just let an ork unit shoot twice
How fucking broken could that have possibly been
Xavier Kelly
I got 9 out of 11 pages before I lost the video.
And all the important shit is already in the OP. The frontline link has all the fucking stat lines.
Joseph King
That depends upon how autistically you interpret the targeting rule, and I'm sure it's going to require an faq. The CA rule says that you can't "target" them, but the overwatch rules says that you fire overwatch against them and that the attacks are resolved "as shooting attacks," but shooting attacks have a step called resolve (I think it's step 4), which comes after the targeting step. So, depending upon how you read the rule, it's possible that overwatch could skip the targeting step and thus circumvent the character targeting rule.
Nathan Thompson
So the new T'au relic is free right? There is no reason i shouldn't take it?
John Ross
I never got why the 7th edition veil of darkness was once per game.
Mason Cruz
New chapter approved rule makes no mention of the shooting phase, so that will need to be re-faq'd.
Chase Ward
Now that we know the CA changes, I've decided to become a nazi so please rate my caac list:
++ Alpha Legion Battalion ++
- HQ -
CSM Daemon Prince with Wings: Malefic talons, Mark of Slaanesh, Warptime
Sorcerer with Jump Pack: Bolt pistol, Force sword, Mark of Slaanesh, Presciencel, Death Hex
- Troops -
Chaos Cultists: 40x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, Mark of Slaanesh
Chaos Cultists: 10x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, Mark of Slaanesh
Chaos Cultists: 10x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, Mark of Slaanesh
- Flyer -
Chaos Fire Raptor : Hellstrike missiles, 2x Quad heavy bolter, Twin Avenger Bolt Cannon ++ Alpha Legion Spearhead ++
- HQ -
Daemon Prince with Wings: Malefic talons, Mark of Slaanesh, Delightful Agonies
- Heavy Support -
2 x Obliterators, Mark of Slaanesh
Hellforged Quad Heavy Bolter Rapier w/crew ++ Death Guard Spearhead ++
- HQ -
Chaos Lord (Arch-Contaminator Warlord): Chainsword, Combi-bolter, Fugaris' Helm
- Heavy Support -
3 x Plagueburst Crawler: 2x Entropy cannon, Heavy Slugger
2k points exactly with CA changes.
Asher Diaz
>htps://www.frontlinegaming.org/2017/11/25/chapter-approved-review >While the Warlord Trait isn’t amazing it is also far from bad as Sisters don’t have a lot of way to mitigate morale and the ability to re-roll a flubbed morale check will keep more of your ladies on the table
The sister are an MSU list in transport.
They are implying that "reroll failed moral test 6" bubble" is better than even the fucking +1 to moral (In MSU, it isnt).
Best trait anyway is legendary fighter to abuse Celestine FLY.
Chase Russell
Got this 2000pt (using CA leaks) Night Lords list that I'm going to try against Tau. Main plan is to rape the gunline with the sorc warptiming the talons, raptors follow in, spread that -LD and use the khorne strat on the talons for more pain. Hopefully enough of a hole is opened up to rush at the commanders, then bring everyone else into the fight and keep the terminators ready to delete a vehicle or two.
Charles Johnson
>I'll take three of these, three of those, and three of these. Oh, and a special character. >spamming units
Fuck off.
Carson Jones
Spic/nigger detected
Samuel Martinez
No reason not to. It takes 0 points, replaces nothing, and although it has a bubble effect, it's also got a non-bubble effect. You could stick it on a nondescript Marksman near the back and just roll for free CP the whole battle.
Relics can't be put on named characters, and I think you can only take one custom one per battle, so when the codex comes out it'll be a choice. Until then, free for you and me.
Luke Gonzalez
>10 man cultist squad repeated twice >3 Plagueburst Looks like a spam list to me, you waacfag.
Logan Nelson
Because when it wasn't in 6th, people pulled crazy stunts with it. A cryptek in any unit let it teleport around the board like crazy.
Brody Gutierrez
What happens if I just take 2000 points of spore mines
Jayden Ward
Surely renegades is better for your second detachment? Advance with your hellbrutes for that better assured melee.
Not sure how wise it is to have a rhino kitted out with so much when its practically the only thing in your list, and its filled to the brim with expensive guys. Its gonna get focussed to hell.
Also Night Lords warlord trait is kinda bad, take the one which makes your opponent do morale checks on 2 dice discarding lowest.
Daniel Rivera
You get tabled quick, and lose models on the offensive. Sounds like fun, DO IT. Bonus points if HQ are Malanthropes.
Hudson Thompson
A warhound is now 2000 points. Assuming the other team isn't kitted out purely for superheavy hunting is it even capable of taking out a 2k army by itself?
Levi Cruz
Yeah, and that was the gimmick of that Cryptek loadout. It wasn't exactly game breaking.
Now crypteks have no personality. They're just a genericised buffbot that frankly stole the ressurection orb gimmick from the lords.
Brayden Nelson
Is it commander only? If not then ill just take it on a Cadre Fireblade that i am running with my main line of guns.
Chase Torres
>Exemplar of the Mont'ka >Literally what one of our dirt-cheap support systems does.
But why?
Nathaniel Moore
>channel that into a way to kill the president. user should kill you instead.
Leo Sanders
Easily, yes, but it will still lose via objectives as it will never table anyone by itself.
Aaron Cox
Take it on whatever HQ you want
Luis Thomas
No special characters, but are you saying it looks good?
Cultists are very fitting into a fluffy Alpha Legion army, user. I hope that means you like the list!
Adam Thomas
Opinions? Are hive guard better than my predator-equivalent carnifexen?
Landon Bell
You can make hive guard shoot twice with a stratagem, so yes. I've only ever played against nids so can't comment on the rest.