Brothels in RPGs

Thread for all ideas to make a brothel an interesting part of the setting in your fantasy/medieval ttrpg.

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Not an argument

My DM made the brothel owner a mid level bard who had Mordenkainens magnificant mansion cast on the back of a large wagon/cart. He would charge enterence fees, and the servants could change form at request to acts as the whores. overall a pretty cool set up.

He meant in D&D, so the argument will start soon.

Anyway, you should make this how characters power up, access to larger harems = more power being channeled into your characters via more temple prostitutes.

My party has been working in both a real brothel and a dream-world brothel as of late. Ask me anything.

To leave off on the point from the last thread:
>A proper gentleman's club isn't just squeaky beds and closed doors. A good bordello can put on a good burlesque show, at the least, and when you're not banging, you get a chance to relax with a good drink at the bar and a nice view.

is that YuriCam?

Why have we had a brothel thread nonstop for about a week?

What's in the dreamworld brothel?

In my setting there are numerous living saints with semi-divine power. They are regulated and given areas of concern by the centralist church.

Burrel Hall, Saint Of Unrequired Love, Lost Causes, and Wanders owns the largest brothel in the city, Burrel’s Hall, which doubles as the center of his worship. The brothel is called The King’s Pinky, and sports the actual severed pinky of the last true king of the city bought at auction after the cultural revolution.

This. The best brothels are pleasure houses; they have drinking, smoking, shows, and of course call girls. Look at GoT and the brothel Littlefinger runs. It's a perfect example. Caters to all classes and tastes, and the girls and boys are trained, not just warm bodies. They know art, literature, theater, and can perform.

Of course, with all these vices that's just an increase in the number of plot hooks. Anything from gambling debts to cheating to getting heated over a girl to gossip to politics and even murder. It's great, and not enough GMs are comfortable using them in their games as a crux or hub, and that's a shame. I can't speak for all groups, but I think any reasonably mature adults should be able to enjoy a game centered on or featuring a brothel without it devolving into ERP crap or teenage giggling (though try stopping jokes; it's a gaming table, there will ALWAYS be jokes).

Temple prostitutes made sense to me from the angle of a deity of love, but as conduits for divine power? Meh. The girls might as well use it themselves at that rate. I mean sure, I suppose it might vary from place to place, and girl to girl. Not everyone is cut out for adventuring. We could of course also be talking about something minor like Advantage on a your next die roll or +1 to hit or save or something else for other systems like an extra wild die or something like that. A blessing, I guess.

Pulling on even more details from the last thread, when it comes to the potential for plothooks and details:
>If ever there's a bigger watering hole and rumor mill than the tavern, it's the brothel. People more important than you realize can make a trip there to relieve stress. If they're smart, they would have girls ferryed to their estate to enjoy there. Either way, clients tend to talk, and whores can be good listeners. In a way, a brothel can be a slightly more reliable source of first- or second-hand info on a topic than a tavern, as you have a better chance of getting close to the source itself.
>People can talk to whores for all sorts of reasons, like growing anxiety over a major business deal they're in charge of, or a police case that's going nowhere. You have whores who can be police informants or even undercover officers themselves trying to sting someone in particular (if they are, the madam is usually in on it). You can have the madam send the party on missions on behalf of the brothel - a popular one is "Some scumbag cut up one of my best girls; hunt him down and make him pay." Each hook can feed into each other hook, as brothels are relatively tight-knit and can serve as a nexus for points of interest in a plotline.
>As an extra bonus, if you're really in good with the whores somehow, you can hire them for assistance, like running interference on a patrol or hunting for particular tidbits of info.

>As the highest level whore, should the madame be the sexiest woman in the building?
Not necessarily. There are plenty of older madams who earned their way to the top and rightfully deserve the chance to retire from working the floor and take charge of the establishment. Someone has to do the paperwork.

My character was approached by a fantasy pimp and various times was offered money in exchange for his body.

It's actually gotten him into trouble a couple of times.

The monks/clerics not only are regular clients of the establishment (despite the whole no sex for men of god) but also are the owners of the establishment. Just like in real history.

Wh-what kind of trouble user? We need details.

Griffith?

The last thread was greatly sidetracked.

They help you get read of the fleas infesting your body...in an erotic way of hide and seek.

For example, the party had to lay low for a while after having failed to kill a powerful crime boss, who framed them for a murder-spree in the nation.

Which is why they went to a nation with a very strong not!muslim/radical-catholic religion, where women were supposed to wear face and body concealing clothing. So my character was arrested and brought before the judge, where the party scrambled to reach him and convinced the people in charge not to condemn the ambiguosly-gendered elf because he was actually a guy, see?

The head judge actually took my character for a private hearing, for 'further' inquiries: at that point, my character decided to play it safe and bribe him to avoid the sexual implications.

When he reconvened with the party, they pressured him to cover his face and stop showing off his body to everyone for as long as they would stay here. Since he didn't want to be chained up/continually be under surveillance by our paladin-chaperone, my character agreed and there were no more of these kind of emergencies.

Their wigs are not infested by lices, unlike yours.

They're all giantesses

Your character had to cross-dress to stay out of prison?

588. Paladins are immune to STDs, but if I take advantage of this ability, I lose it. Wonderful paradox, isn't it?

>His paladins are chaste in his setting

Yes, although the true crossdressing came later, when he had to infiltrate a palace to extract an NPC that had information for the party, about the whereabouts of the criminal organization boss.

Not an argument. Have fun sucking black dick you dumb cuck.

Who was it that was posting that brothel that breeds sex goblins. The thread died before I could respond to you. I want more details on it please. Pic related.

>Not teasing and encouraging the Paladin to fall at every step.

A courtesan is not a whore; if she were, no man of wealth and taste would bother with what he could have cheaper, elsewhere. Simple rutting, however luxurious the setting, is not sufficient for the price that a man pays for a cortegiana.

I read and write in four languages, I speak six. I play the lute and sing. I dance. I can converse with a learned dottore of letters on the works of the Greeks and Romans, or on the works of the poets and philosophers of our own age. I even write poetry myself—it's bad poetry, but I can write it. I know as much about politics within Italy and the wider world as most of the gentlemen of the Case Vecchie. Quite a bit more, in fact. And as for the games of the bed—well, let me just assure you that I am a notable athlete. That is what is required to be a courtesan.

"Often Licked, Never Beaten."

I like mine determined by a chart. Thanks Gygax.

>No beard
Can she even call herself a dwarf? I like my dwarven women with some fluff on their chin and an axe in hand. What do I expect from a dwarf that whores herself out to humans or other foul creatures.

I would love a campaign where we spent our off time and resources building up a brothel (Of course I would have no DM willing to make such a thing) It would start out in a terrible building just trying to find girls willing to join our establishment or trying to defend ourselves from the competition. Defending the girls from rowdy customers. Or shaking down people who dined and dashed. Do people try to move in on our territory when we go out adventuring? Of course we would try to improve our establishment to become what you proposed. Do we keep building where we first started renovating the place? Do we branch out on a more wealthy side of town? The Brothels in the rich side of town probably wouldn't like new competition. They would have more resources to make out lives hell. Would people even stop going to the more established brothels to come to ours?

Our current campaign looks like me might be running a brewery or an inn of some sort. A lot of the problems will transfer over to the inn of course. But man all I can think of is one time I was going to join a camping were we where going to be a traveling circus. That would be so amazing. It was going to a world where large nations of humans were trying to exterminate all other races as well, that my dream setting. Why did that campaign have to die before it got started? Thanks for letting me imagine a brothel campaign though.

Basically I was really into short stack goblins and thought to use it as world building, describing the transition from toothy little fuckers who would shank you for fun to cute short stacks. Basically in my setting orcs and dwarves were both breeding goblins they caught when they had trouble deciding what to do with the orphans of goblin nests, dwarves bred servent and show goblins, orcs ended up breeding smarty tinker gremins, they two breeds eventually met and cross bred, becoming big into eugenics and many settled into goblin run brothels with specially bred pleasure goblins, any with the gremlins smart genes are free to eventually find work else where but goblins have always had a high libido

A hybrid brothel/orphanage that caters to upscale clientele, where the workers have the potential to earn their way into a better life as servants or clerks for customers they particularly impress.

>The madame of the brothel is a former slave sold to a particularly nasty brothel that after long and harsh years of prostitution managed to buy her own freedom
>She used what little wealth she had to start her own modest brothel, making sure to only employ orphans like herself to ensure they can earn their money in an at least somewhat pleasant environment
>Eventually the brothel grows into one of the more well-known pleasure palaces of the city
>Even though the madame no longer sells herself, she has given up on the idea of ever getting married and instead sees her girls as her own daughters
>Once in a blue moon some lovestruck fool tries to hit on her, but she always rejects them by telling them she's just an old whore and there are so many younger, prettier girls out there

>christmas cake madame
HHHHNNNNGGGGGGGGGHHH

Nothing wrong with a little bit of short stack but how do you get keep it from getting magical relmy? Is that what your players signed up for?

But to what I was originaly trying to respond to you on your original post fit very well in my current campaing (Not that my DM would do anything with over sexing things) Orcs goblins and bugbears going civilized from there ferrel form is a hot topic for me at least in this campaign not being able to just kill orcs and such on sight anymore. I just wanted some more information so I could have a bit of a moral quandary. It is just a bit confusing right now because we have little information about it and we are far from where we could get it.

I mean unless we bump into a sexy goblin at the local brothel that is hoy hoy hoy

Well the goblins are treated in a mixed manner depending on the culture, amusingly the orcs (who while warrior like we're never feral in this settong) were the fastest to accept intelligent goblins as a thing, while dwarves and elves treat them as more like valued talking pets. Wild goblins still exist and remain "pest" status, humans are themselves in the hyborian age and thus not taken too seriously but elves have noticed their early wizards show potential.

Intelligent Goblins for them selves don't care how they are seen as long as they are treated decently, this can bite them in the ass later.

And the whole group loves a little short stack now and then so no objections, one of the party is actually an early retireree from the house due to a facial scar

>one of the party is actually an early retiree from the house due to a facial scar

Bit confused on what you mean by that and how it relates.

What do you do with all the excess male goblins they breed?

They either tend bar or other tasks, or they take a potion of sex change, or cater to those who like the boys. And it didn't relate was just a little detail I thought was neat

>Just girls

Hey, hey. All orphans deserve a better life, not just the female ones.

I was trying to avoid my magical realm, user.

Secretly run by Orcs.

So I have a setting, was supposed to take place in London, no specific time period, the idea was a theatre that catered specifically to nobility and royalty and people of enough social standing. Invitation only.

The girls would be rigorously chosen from the best in the land and then groomed to assume the identity of a Greek Goddess. So you'd have a pantheon of courtesans- think Aphrodite, Athena, Artemis, Hera, Persephone, etc, all of whom embody beauty in a certain way. Their diets and education would all be carefully catered to, as well as their acting classes.

Which brings us to the establishment itself. Think an enclosed coliseum comprising nothing but box seats with one way mirrors- for the privacy of the guests. The Central pit is where various acts of sexual and non-sexual nature occur for the indulgence of the audience. Lavish food and beverages are ready for the patrons to order, as well as the girls.

It's kinda cool for me to see these ideas echoed out through your ideas, and I was just hoping to take this space to pen mine down.

>Matronly madame training her boys with motherly affection and encouragement.

That kind of magical realm?

Diversify your prostitutes, and diversify your brothels.

Remember, prostitution in the ancient and medieval world was incredibly rampant. The only professions more common was the farmer and fisherman.

So you want streetwalkers, you want serving wenches/scullerymaids/barmaids who do work on the side, you want dancers who do work on the side, you want fancy courtesans in fancy places, and lastly you want opportunists who dabble.

Do they try to look respectable and pretty? Or raunchy and outrageous?

Depending on your setting you want religious shrines and temples whose faith includes anything from passion to fertility to the bawdy arts to temporal pleasure.

Also depending on your setting, you want to include slaves who are rented out in brothels or even owned by the same people.

There's even the possibility of schools that train in the bedroom and courtesan arts.

Consider how different a place that caters to soldiers, to one that caters to dockworkers and sailors, to one that caters to merchants and lesser nobility.

Consider the legality and the cultural mores of the area. Are all sex acts legal? How are they taxed? How are sexworkers viewed? Do the local guards help and protect them, or do they abuse them? Is there more supply, or more demand? Are drugs involved?

And of course it goes without saying that each place should be somewhat distinct. A mediterranean style port city will be vastly different from a sleepy border keep town which will be different from a mining boomtown.

Lastly, try to avoid the pitfalls of putting prostitution and brothels through the lens of a modern perspective. That is after all the point of roleplaying in worlds different than our current one.

I run an ERP with a character and location much like this. While she calls it a tea house, it's basically a brothel, and all her girls wear cute cheongsams, especially the male ones.

>all her girls wear cute cheongsams
>especially the male ones

I... I can live with that.

....How are their rates?
What will they do?

Please tell me this became a habit

It's pretty fun. It's actually a Wuxia game, set in an an anachronistic city full of young Xia fighting amongst themselves to gain strength before going out into the wider world. The tea house owner operates one of the few safe, neutral places where fighting is forbidden, providing food, drink and entertainment to her guests.

For people who do make trouble, every single one of her girls is a competent martial artist, while the madam herself is one of the strongest people in the city, even if for political reasons she can't really operate outside her territory, the tea house. Guests who ignore her rules and get too rough or forget to ask permission suffer a number of punishments. Being banned for a period of time is one of the lesser punishments, but her favourite one is making them work off their debt.

>incredibly rampant
This desu.

It's basically the reason to be an adventurer in the first place, to enjoy hookers and blow.

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Actually that depends on how the whoring system is structured - it was de facto a given that the highest ranking geisha in a group of geishas was the most experienced and best geisha, to the point where any lower ranked geishas who surpassed the highest ranking geisha in a group was expected to leave the group and form their own one - of course geishas explicitly were operating in a more apprenticeship type arrangement, so the original madame of a geisha group whose protege went out and made it really big was seen to bring honor and respect to the one who trained her - it honestly operated like how hte Wulin in Wu Xia stories was supposed to, the mistress would teach her pupils how to be the best geisha, they in turn were honor bound to not show her up or actively hurt their mistress' business by competing with her or by being a crappy geisha after leaving to set up their own business.

By the late edo period it was not unccomon for elaborate schools of gieshas to basically exist with their unique styles, some specialised in tea ceremonies, music, theatre, sex or yelling "YOU WANT SOME SUCK SUCK" at people in the street, each fighting with their various specialities for the negotiable affection of rich merchants and nobles in the Ukiyo-e or "floating cloud" pleasure district of Kyoto.

Let the PCs run the brothel and see how that ends.
They could run it for real, use it as a hideout, have the workers form a network of spies, whatever, it could be interesting.

The bartender replies, buy a drink first, then I'll tell you what you want to know.

MISSION IDEAS

1. Some johns have been sending home some of the girls with bruises. You and the boys have to go teach them a lesson.

2. A john has accused one of the girls of stealing from him and she denies it. Fine out who is telling the truth. Management wants this resolved as quietly and quickly as possible. The House having a reputation of employing little thieves is horribly damaging.

3. There's a rival brothel that's opened up. Do what you can to shut it down-legal or otherwise.

4. A son of one of the whores is now old enough to be put to work. It's your job to man him up and make sure he pulls his weight.

5. One girl claims on a stack of bibles that she's actually the daughter of a noble and if you get her out of her contract with the House she'll make it worth your while.

6. Two girls are having a catfight over a client and causing a scene. Find a way to defuse the situation or turn it into a spectacle for publicity.

All brothels are hubs for every single cult in the setting. Because the god of dark cults (yes, each cult exalts a different deity or being, but there's a god whose domain is the very concept of "cults" themselves) and the Goddess of brothels really like eachother.

I see that Veeky Forums is living up to its moniker of /transgender/

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>You will never accept payment from a group of water elementals that want to gangbang an elf queen
>You will never accept payment from a group of male elven warriors to make a gay human their bitch
>You will never dress up a tall orc as a gimp and let a sadistic dwarf sodomize

>ywn have a mage magically enhance some of your prostitutes for more profit

> a literal whorephanage
> with a epic level monk protecting it

>Making them work off their debt

I- Wait. Is she a sorceress of some kind that can regress peoples' age back to childhood?

She's a Wuxia doctor, with all the mystic bullshit massage, acupuncture and strange herbal remedies can achieve. Which is quite a lot, in most Wuxia things.

All her girls are clearly of age, even her debtors. She might just adjust their looks a bit to ensure they're appropriate to be on her staff.

And, if they really prefer, they can just work it off as cooks and cleaners. She doesn't want anyone working for her unwillingly. But the cooks and cleaners don't earn much, and she finds it fun to tempt them with an easy way out if they just accept a shift or two.

Liquid Asset
>3 story, 2 building bar/brothel
>swimming pool in the middle of the bar
>the front entrance is a old pirate ship that has a bite through the hull forming the opening to the front door.
>offers water taxi service for aquatic races living in the port area
>rope bridge connects the two buildings across a street. You can take the rope bridge over, or there is a tight rope you can try your luck with. If you can make it across the tight rope, you get 1/2 off (up to 20 gold) and a free drink.
>run by a former pirate with a treasure map tattooed on her back (the treasure is long gone)

A while ago I came across a small history article about how from the middle ages up to the early modern period, there were no brothels as we know them today.

Inns would just allow prostitutes to find clientele inside the inn for a cut. This was typically "multi-classed" by some barmaids - they'd work as both barmaid and prostitute, bacause prostitution was almost always taxed in what is now known as the Netherlands, Germany, Italy, etc. The prostitutes would be barmaids on paper, allowing them to pay a lot less income tax.

Of course, there'd be inns that were more about the whole bed and breakfast deal, it's not easy to sleep in an inn where people are drinking and fucking until deep in the night.

Damn. And here I was trying to draw you into my age-regression magical realm.

>whorephanage

this. we were looking for a place to stay and a madam offered us free room, company included, if our holymen gave the place a good health inspection.

>there were no brothels as we know them today.
How is that any different from how we know them today? There are tons of hotels where you go to the front desk and ask for 'entertainers' or 'masseuses'.

You realize plenty of upscale hotel bars are full of prostitutes on most nights?

>they had trouble deciding what to do with the orphans of goblin nests

That's hidden in plain sight.

I'm talking about prostitution in the open. Visit enough art museums with renaissance/early modern art, and you'll know what I mean. Borderline exhibitionist orgies and shit.

>Combine these two ideas
>All those "Your PCs kill a tribe of monsters, what do they do with the helpless kids left behind?" threads
>Ends with "Send them to the whorephanage."

I kinda wish we were a decade or three earlier so I could stereotypically pull up to a harlot in a bra and a miniskirt with too much hair and makeup walking the streets and ask for a twenty dollar quickie in the back seat. Don't get me wrong, I'm from Singapore so I like my whores alleys and brothels clean, but I guess there's something about that sense of the unknown that's a magical realm of its own.

>I'm talking about prostitution in the open.
Do you mean like vegas? Because any place where prostitution is legal is out in the open.

>exhibitionist orgies
So more like hollywood, ok.

That elf makes me feel things.

Every major city has a sort of red light area, at least a stretch of road where streetwalkers hang out, waiting for a car to come by and pick them up.

Bigger cities and tourist destinations will often have two, three, or more such areas.

In a non-ERP game, how far do you go with Brothels? Do you just say they go? Do you talk prices? Do you talk options?

How do you run them?

>I'm talking about prostitution in the open.
Pretty much any red light district then? They don't exist legally in the US but in parts of Europe they're kosher.

youtube.com/watch?v=PTrXAwb_9t8

i go as far as my players want to go UNTIL it breaks a golden rule like killing someone's fun or making someone uncomfortable. flirt and price what they want? sure. but no matter how many fucking mountains of platinum you can pay you're not getting more than a fade to black for naughty.

I run an 'almost anything goes except erp' game and in one of my sessions, most of my players spent about an hour of gametime hanging out in the brothel/tavern, gambling, drinking and gathering rumors.

Several got propositioned but only one character went for it. After a few drinks (and getting him to buy her a drink) and getting him to brag (and thus raise the eventual price she demanded) they discussed prices and options, went upstairs, and faded to black.

I had him roll his constitution to see how long he spent there, and then asked if he wanted to do anything else besides the obvious, like try to socialize or pump her for information about someone or something.

The entertaining bit was when he realized he was actually a bit short. (Not just a pun about him being a halfling), and how he spilled his spaghetti at the increasingly agitated pro until eventually he offered her his fiddle (which was worth roughly 6-7 times the fee) and then escaped without any money or dignity.

After the session it seemed like everyone enjoyed it.

what's the difference?

>ex-adventurer whore

Sometimes its easier to make money on your back than trudging through swamps and volcanoes risking your life every day. Plus, if you're immune to disease, why not?

Maybe they're trying to forget surviving that near TPK? You dont know the road they walk!

> scarred ex-adventurer milf prostitute
> beneath soft brown flesh you can feel her toned mucles

Are brothel threads the newest general? They keep getting posted.

I could do with Brothel Generals, but I think we're just having a proper one this time because two groups of idiots wouldn't stop arguing with each other and shitting that thread off the rails.

Anyway since you asked for a general, I patronised a whore just earlier today, I bought some cheap ass Jewelry and a sling swimsuit to dress her up like nonsummerjack's Anubis costume (see Fig 1). It was quite an exquisite experience, and I'm pretty sure this practice is just the tip of the iceberg with higher class societies with more opulent tastes

>even got the jackal ears
Nice one user

What kind of things user?

Oh fuck OH Fuck OH FUCK I FORGOT THE FUCKING JACKAL EARS FUCK MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Ah fuck it there's always next time.

>Saucy tart
WEW

Where do you live where you can just patronise a whore? It can't be anywhere good.

the real question is, did you at least get pictures?


This may have to be my next paladin character's motivation.

Pretty sure Craigslist works everywhere in the continental US.

>Look at GoT and the brothel Littlefinger runs.
>anything in GoT
>good, logical or realistic

Nigguh pls