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How do you feel about the updated starship rules?

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If your character has anything larger than C cups, than we can't be friends anymore.

but in my setting, there is an entire race of heavily uddered aliens. 34H with 2 pairs of breasts is average. their udders store their magical power and evil races try to enslave them to milk the magical power from them.

does /pfg/ like older women?

> Playing a campaign as the Path of War archetype for bards
> I'm essentially a power-metal dude who shoots lightning out of his guitar
> AKA: A bard that isn't useless and can throw out a reasonable amount of elemental damage dice.
> Going to assault some fortress filled with Goblins
> I actually have a reasonably high AC as I'm using the feat line to let me have two stances at the same time, with two stances that each give me a +4 to AC.
> Among other things like having Fortified Armour Training so I'm harder to crit to death

I should probably mention at this point that the DM has started a fucking arms race. 100% of the entire party is playing half-elves that are doubling up on their +1 HP per level, fudging their rolls to max the HP, taking Toughness, and Fortified Armour Training. Our wizard is level 5 and has 70 HP.

Despite all of this
> Every goblin in the entire fortress automatically hits with every attack, often with multiple shots in a round
> No matter what your AC is, they automatically hit, and spam crits.
> Invisible enemies suddenly appear behind the party fucking constantly, diving casters like my bard and the wizard to instantly kill them the moment combat starts.
> The moment the party tries getting some damage reduction(Like my Earth elemental stance gave me Dr5/adamantine, all of the goblins automatically start ignoring it.
> He straight up told me they're all firing adamantine arrows, the moment I started subtracting damage.
> The fucking goblins have adamantine arrows.

Is this DM a dick? I feel like people really shouldn't be doing that. What's the fucking point of spending any money at all on defensive items? What's fucking stopping me from just showing up to the game with a bare-ass-naked character who has only a sword, THE ARMOUR ISN'T GOING TO DO ANYTHING ANYWAY.

>The goblins are firing adamantine arrows at you
>You are clearly still alive
>You have the gall to complain about having ridicolous amounts of money thrown at you
Fucking grab all of them and have them smelted and used to forge your next guitar you pussy

I wasn't still alive at that point. My level 5 bard ate enough arrows to take 150 damage before the damage reduction. If my DR was actually being applied, I would have survived that single round with ONLY a measly -10 hp remaining.

He does this fucking constantly with everything.

I even tried to make a barbarian once. He ate a firearm crit for 250(!!?!!?) damage outright in the first round of combat he was in, during the surprise round. Said barbarian was level 4.

This. If the DM wants an arms race, play some rocket tag. If he gets mad over trying to sell the arrows, at least you're probably in a shop away from the hordes of death and can live to try to cheese it harder.

I do. Especially when they're busty.

This is more serious than I though. I've had bad GM's, but they had an illusion of legitimacy at least.

Evasion or Stealth might work, though replacing incredibly high + to hit with + to perception is just as easy if he's willing to cheat.

Maybe Incorporeal or Emergency Force Tactics are necessary?

>rubato
>not useless
I am so sorry user.

Mirror Image, Blur up, make the DM roll in the open.

>How do you feel about the updated starship rules?
They could have pushed them a tad lower, but at least an optimized specialist with a few bonuses can get a 50/50 shot of doing their job properly once in awhile.

Rubato is fine you fuck

> Being able to pick and choose literally any element and throw 9d6 of said element in a 30-foot line
> Not building it with Split-style Mithral Current to give yourself the power to make monsters take 50% bonus damage from further attacks of the same element when you burn them.

It's not a world-ending build, but as far as support classes go, Rubato is a reasonably good powerhouse if built right. You don't have the balls-out power of a elemental flux kineticist, but the support abilities are hella nice.

If you're a race with Darkvision, work with that too. Times like these it is important, especially if the goblins don't have it.

>two Stances at once
I don't think a feat that lets you do that exists

You're right though it does sound like the dm is being strange
That's the Warlord capstone

>paizo trash bleeding relevance fast as fuck
kek

You're right, I meant though the Style+Stance thing. There's one for Mithral Current + Elemental Flux that essentially does that with regards to one stance in particular. But it's like 4 entire feats.

If I had to make the character again, I absolutely wouldn't be doing this anymore, it's entirely too many feats for what is otherwise a gimmick if you don't have a whole party of elemental damage.

Gentlemen, how would you go about fixing the shifter?

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ask Jolly

What gods do the Dwarves follow in Starfinder's setting? Is Torag still around? I'm gonna be making a Dwarf Soldier with the Priest theme, and I'm looking to make him as paladin as possible.

Are there any details on what types of bug races make up the Swarm?

>bird cloaca.jpg

Don't limit what they can and can't wildshape into, and let them have full selection of basic Animal Focus like the Hunter.

Also, remove Druid requirements, let the Claws bonus damage just be on Nat. Attacks in general, and allow Nat. Attack to function as Manufactured weapons for the purposes of being able to do iteratives

Instead of iteratives let them get another natural attack type at 6th, 11th, and 16th level. Like a tail slap, gore, bite, etc.

Should a Switch Hitter Slayer's Favored Class bonus be extra HP or extra Skill Points? What about a Witch?

Give it real class features.

How would you price a Nymph's Inspiration?

>A nymph can choose an intelligent creature to inspire and serve as a muse by giving that creature some token of her affection (typically a lock of her hair). As long as the nymph retains her favor for this creature and as long as the creature carries the nymph’s token, the creature gains a +4 insight bonus on all Will saving throws, Craft checks, and Perform checks. A bard who has a nymph for a muse in this way can use his bardic performance for an additional number of rounds per day equal to his nymph muse’s Charisma modifier. The nymph retains a link to her token and its carrier as if she had cast a status spell on the carrier. The nymph can end this effect at any time as a free action. A single nymph may only inspire one creature at a time in this manner.

Do swashbucklers pick the deeds they want at every odd level (1, 3, 5, etc), or do they get them all for free at the appropriate level?

The wording is fucking awful.

They get them for free.

They get all the deeds, but almost all of them are shit

Would a Gun Chemist's alchemical ordnance count as alchemical cartridges when used?

If your DM sends more combats your way then HP, if there are more skill-challenges then skill point. Also, what about a witch?

Can't an Apallie just tell people it's an Oozemorph Shifter and have people believe them?

Yes, it was shown in the Alien Archive.

Nymphs are into artisans and handsome knights, so... One good Perform/Diplo check and/or a declaration to perform great deeds in her name?

I'm talking about WBL, user, not the actual process to get it.

You can’t price things like this, user.

Your romanticism won't work on me.

Your materialism won’t either.

What's a good use for Paragon Surge on a prepared caster? I'm trying to decide if it's worth being half-elf if my cleric gets it.

It should have been "fixed" when it was first released, considering how long it was in development for. It's pathetic that Paizo would release Starfinder as an unfinished trash heap with tons of errors and call it good.

It's a good way to get people to shill out more sheckles for an updated copy that fixes the issues that wouldn't be there if they actually tested the game enough instead of having their thumbs up their asses while writing it. Then again, it's Paizo, they're the tabletop equivalent of putting a thumb up your ass.

But that's just my 2 cents.

It's not useless at all. The PoW archetypes are only really 'weak' if you're playing with other full initiator classes in the party, and then you can pretty much just make the archetypes (with the exception of the Polymath and Warpath Followers) full initiators themselves. IMO there's nothing that makes say the Myrmidon so much better of a base class than the Warder or Warlord that it deserves to get knocked down to a 6/9 initiator.

To clarify, if you have enough of the relevant craft skill at start(mainly weapons/armor), can you use it get special material armors at half price at chargen? That way you can possibly start with Mithril armor and stuff

This reminds me a story in one of the past threads where some GMs would increase encounter difficulty like this in their worry of needing to challenge the player. But given they were freaking firing adamantine arrows and all autohit, I think this is some amazing overcompensation or bullshitting.

Two-handed weapons add 1+1/2 STR mod to damage
Off-hand weapons add 1/2 STR mod to damage
If a multi limbed creature like a marilith wields a two-handed weapon as off-hand, how much STR modifier she adds to damage?

1/2 + 1/2 = 1
Just str mod.

They follow Angraad, Torags younger bro

my character has amnesia!

Did starfinder die out?
Is science fiction that shit a genre?

No, there's just not much to discuss.

I'm glad that the 'solarian soldier dip' meme has died, personally.

>start game at level 2
>be soldier 1/solarian 1

Literally nothing wrong with this. It's optimal.

Yes, for one thing only.

I'll play a Cha operative if I want combat + Cha utility, thanks.

...

Friendly reminder that DSP published a soulknife archetype that lets you use your class's key ability modifier for attack/damage, because DSP wanted to fix straight-classed solarians.

>Focused Offense [2nd Level]: You gain Improved Mind Blade as a bonus feat. If you already had that feat, you instead gain a bonus feat. In addition, as long as you are psionically focused, all attack rolls made with your mind blade may use your key ability score modifier instead of Strength or Dexterity.

1pp-only straight-classed solarians BTFO.

And exactly no one is surprised by this.

Friendly reminder that it ALSO makes envoys really good because they can shoot with Charisma!

The Saurian Champion Cavalier archetype in Ultimate Wilderness is really confusing( as is the rest of the book). It basically says "Look through all the bestiaries and pick a dinosaur, that's your mount." Are there really no restrictions on what dinosaur you can pick, or is there some sort of expansive official Cavalier mount list hidden somewhere. Whats stopping me from running around with a colossal diplodocus at level 1?

There are saurian Animal Companions. Maybe it's referring to those?

>ace pilot
>less than full ranks in pilot
some people make really wierd builds. i dont understand it.

He's so good he doesn't need full ranks. Mechanically speaking that's bullshite, but it might be his in-character explanation.

So remind me again why people make fun of Augunas? Aside from his opinions on Lore Warden nerfs.

I’d say unless you enjoy it just make whatever character you like and enjoy playing it until the GM inevitably kills it.

I’m reminded of a GM tip in a Cyberpunk supplement on GMing. Basically, you’re not working against the players, throwing an elephant at them doesn’t prove you’re smart. You’re the GM, you can always throw a bigger elephant. Whatever.

Anyways, is the GM good beyond the TPK-wank? Is there a chance he’ll outgrow it? Is it some weir thing where he feels like he loses if the characters win?

Are you saying it’s RAW?

My amnesiac had one of my most thorough backstories ever, and I ran it past the GM instead of springing it on him.

What classes are suitable components for working together as part of a bounty hunter/assassin/black ops/death squad?

Alexander "Not furry" Augunas, who shoves furry kitsunes everywhere he can, and the creator of the Prideless king Anajira

>Prideless king Anajira
The what now? Sounds like a Dark Souls boss except disappointing.

A team of Ogre Ninjas.

Slayers, serial killer vigilantes, rogues, ninjas, rangers, fighters, inquisitors and for prestige classes assassins and shadow dancers.

>What classes are suitable components for working together as part of a bounty hunter/assassin/black ops/death squad?

everything except technomancer and solarian, I think

Envoy:
>"Good" cop, interrogation officer, infiltration agent, social engineer (why hack a computer when you can convince someone to give you the password?)

Mechanic
>Bounty hunter who tracks his prey with drones, explosives expert, hacker

Mystic
>Kyle Ren-style mind-reading inquisitor, psychotic telepath

Soldier
>obvious

Operative
>also obvious

though you can flavor any character in any way

Spirit that Augunas created for Grimoire of Lost Souls, shitty paint TLDR as attachment

I'm running a campaign for some friends new to Pathfinder, I started them with by the book rules to get them used to it and to show them why some stuff sucks. They're about to hit 4th level and they're at the point where they realize what stuff is annoying/bad so at 5th level when they get their 3rd feats I'll be letting them edit their characters and adding in QoL homerules. I'm rusty myself so I'd like suggestions to help them.

Party is Paladin/Bard/Gunslinger/Alchemist.

The homerules are basic Elephant rules (free finesse/power attack), no need to track mundane ammo, removing carry load but keeping lift/push limits, Paladin gets 4+Int skill points. If the Gunslinger sticks to it I'll be letting them have paper cartridges for free to help alleviate the firearm issue. All of them can pick non-initiating feats from Path of War like DA. What are other easy improvement rules I might've missed?

Think less Dark Souls, and more Corruption of Champions More specifically, he made a knockoff of Akbal from the Deepwoods area of the game This is supposed to be a serious non-sexual publication mind you

Tell me about your wolf girls pfg!

She's a medic (sanguinist), and she fanatically follows the party's shabti, who aspires to be a goddess. Her playstyle is centered around protecting the shabti (who is the party's rajah) and ripping and tearing into the various enemies that threaten her god-waifu, then using their blood to ritualistically heal her party members back up again.

Sounds fun! How much tail thumping is there?

Never played one, never had a reason to play one, and never had the cause to build one.

Plus I am trying my damdest to hide my powerlevel from my group. No one in meatspace must know of my furfag proclivities

Oh, don't be such a worrywart, user. They already know.

But they make fun paladins!

Plenty of tail thumping as she sits around the bonfire chatting with the party.
The only thing more prevelant than tail thumps is tail stroking and head patting.

I doubt it. I play exclusively male humans, half-orcs, and dwarves. I've never hit on any furry-esque female NPCs, I never mention furries in any way either in disgust or admiration, and as far as my group is aware I have no strong opinions either way regarding furries.

I prefer to leave my normal life, and my fetishes completely separate from one another. This is how I live my quiet life

Weren't awoos "Ruined Forever"?

Awoos will never be ruined, they're forever alive in my heart.

NPC awoo, a girl who died young, her father adapted his Spirit Binder wizard research to bond her soul to the puppy was going to give her for her birthday. Has now grown up to be a witchwolf brawler tomboy. Redhead, southern accent, a touch naive but she really means well.

Wow the sign is hilarious hahaha. this is a joke right you don't turn into a fuckin panther furry when you bind the thing do you

There are awoos in Pathfinder? What book?

Not sure what book, but I believe gnolls are like the closest you'll get to awoos, else you'll have to fluff a kitsune/catfolk/other race into have awoo-like features. I know a GM let me refluff a tengu into a white wolf tengu instead of the generic crow ones (said GM was a hardcore weeb and was super into Japanese folklore, apparently according to folklore different type of tengu exist).

>this is a joke right
Nope, this is Augunas
This is the same guy who platered daiperfur pics in his own Childhood Adventures rulebook.

The guy is decent at mechanics, but is just an insufferable whizzard

Blood of the Moon

Actually, user, there are both witchwolf skinwalkers and rougarou for those who want to play as wolf-people.

Skinwalkers. Rougarou.

Huh, I had no idea about the rougarou, and didn't mention skinwalkers as they're kind of more werewolves than proper awoos. Anyways thanks for the clarification, gonna check out the rougarous right now.

Oh. I didn't have the Blood of the Moon book and I thought skinwalkers were something else and didn't bother looking them up on the SRD. Well that's good, I wanted to play an awoo in a game a few times.

Okay, just checked them out and they kinda disappointed me, not sure what I was expecting but they only really seem to have scent and change shape into a proper wolf. I'd rather play a more standard race and refluff that specific character to have more canine traits about them. It's worth noting I've never touched a full "beastman" type of race, they're not quite my style, so usually they get refluffed into the anime tier animalmorphs regardless.

Starfinder Mechanics, what's your experience with the Riding Saddle Drone mod?

If your DM was a proper weeb, he would have an entirely new stat block for the wolf tengu since they have different roles in the youkai society.

Well he kept the sword training, but switched stat bonuses around to +con +wis and -int or -cha. can't quite remember, I think he also gave them half range scent or something like that, and they lost gifted linguist and sneaky.

Hey /pfg/,
I've been wondering, since there isn't any official PoW archetype for the cavalier yet, has anyone seen/used/come up with a decent homebrew one? I have someone in my game who wants to play a cavalier, but since we have already have two full initiators on board I'm afraid they'll feel pointless in comparison. Thanks in advance for any help.