Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1943: Soft and Wet Edition

Like everything else. Slowly.
I'm aiming to work on Irredeemable a bit then get back to A Brother's Price while also working on Guyver.

Creative Composer from Ar Tonelico is still one of the best around after all these years, I'm surprised it doesn't get as much mileage these days.

>Old Ones were creating the Rat Men.
>It all makes sense now.

Well it goes shrews, rats, rabbits, maybe bats, then dogs/cats and their relatives, then every other placental, and so on. So looking like shrews or rats is pretty appropriate early on.

No, that's bullshit, Misc. Meta isn't meant for that level of power. It's your typical X-Man levels of power, not Molecule Man. As for permanent power copying, Val's jumps have a bunch. Off the top of my head, Ultimate Life Form from Jorge Joestar. There are others, it's just too early in the morning to look them up.

Maybe for the 200CP Villain item, you could have power boosting pills? Not to the degree that Modeus raised Bette Noir's powers, it's only 200CP, but some minor enhancements could work.

Thank you. I've made a note of that.
I can see the item complementing the Origin perk. Origin allows you to do it yourself and with arbitrary limits while the pills could boost to a limited degree and duration. Maybe some synergy between them? Something to consider.

I need a good starting jump that gives room for character development, any suggestions? Current thoughts were Symbiote or Shadow Ops.

Battle through the heavens

Pills are great, can confirm

>Fluffy attacks

Wha?

He's insulting his attacks by calling them weak/soft, not that the attacks were actually fluffy, however cool that would be.

Oh. That's disappointing, I was expecting some sort of xianxia kitsune.

Sadly the closest to that kind of thing is this guy

What prevents a jumper from time traveling to the end of the jump immediately upon entering it? I don't plan on it myself because I'm not very fond of time travel, just curious.

Generally the rule is that you spend 10 years in the jump, not that 10 years pass since you enter.

>“For you to want to use up my spiritual energy, I’m afraid that it will be nothing more than daydreams. Big bro has drugs. Do you see, each of the pills in this battle can restore 200 units of spiritual energy. Let me see for how long your body will be able to hold out.”
>Sima Xian opened his eyes wide, “This is clearly a shameless act.”
>Lin Xin, with an air of complacency, spoke back, “What are you calling shameless act? The great competition doesn’t forbid taking medicine. Big bro has drugs, big bro has drugs, do you have some? Let alone this, for such a little amount of spiritual energy, who would contest the fact big bro is taking medicines?”

It’s presumed that your time in a jump is measured by the time you experience, not start and end dates, the latter of which would not make sense for series that revolve around time travel.
This is obviously not the case if you use anything that has fixed rules regarding how your time is measured, such as SCP-2400.

Out of curiosity, are the changes from the Opposition perk permanent?

Hyperbolic time chambers and their ilk disagree with this notion.

Generally is subjective or objective time. Whichever is longer. Jumps like Doctor Who make no sense without that rule.

What is that from? I can guess a different Xianxia, but I only vaguely recognise it.
see hence why I said generally

From Shen Yin Wang Zuo.

In what sense? During normal use or when there's a backlash?

Say I set myself up in Opposition to a cruel and vindictive person - thus shifting away from those myself. Would that change be permanent if the original target snuffs it, or would I "snap back" to where I was before using it?

Never read that, looks vaguely interesting. Would you recommend it?

Oh no, he looks so sad! Please cheer up, giant spirit fox!

So, what perks are necessary for pulling a Monty Python God/Yoshihiko Buddha?

For reference
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Aside from Earth's moon and Mars, which planets (or moons, or dwarf planets, or other spheres) within the solar system are best for terraforming and colonization?

I know nothing about space, but I want to quickly create an earth-like world within the solar system upon returning from the chain.

I always take it as "no amount of time manipulation will change that I must experience 10 years of the jump itself" along with the corrolary of "If I somehow move back in time, it doesn't change my exit date - unless that extra time is more favorable for me."

If you have some way of processing the thick and caustic atmosphere - Venus.

Mercury is a very good choice, it just needs to be moved back slightly or cooled down. I suppose a number of Jupiter's moons would work if you can heat them up. Also just building space habitats all over the solar system would be worth while.

Venus, if you can strip away the thick atmosphere. Some of Jupiter and Saturn's moons too, if you can provide some more heat, but they'll be water worlds. Honestly though, terraforming is for chumps. It wastes so much mass on so little livable surface area. Build a megastructure, all the cool kids are doing it. And you'll have access to impossible soft sci-fi supermaterials, you could build some awesome megastructures.

I usually go with 'The Benefactor requires a minimum of 10 years be spent in setting whenever not specified otherwise, but if you want to spend longer (and therefore expose yourself to more suffering) then they'll give you the rope to hang-yourself with.

No, I do not. At first for a while it is quite good but then you realize the MC seems to be brain dead with how they act, they don't even try to think for themselves.

Quote from NovelUpdates that sums it up.

>One dimensional protagonist who is hell bent on killing demons because his father told him Demons are evil ~_~ It's like humanity is totally good while Demons are pure evil.

Well, I think I would leave that up to you. The perk helps you perform a 'role' in opposition, how much the jumper internalises that behaviour to the point where it becomes a genuine part of them and remains after the perk runs its course is up to you, what makes sense to you and what makes a good story to you.

Damn I just want a good story xia without a harem who is not a sadist or a retard.

I Shall Seal the Heavens, Coiling Dragon and Desolate Era. Just off the top of my head.

Mind posting it? I don't see it in the uploads.

Oh, and Stellar Transformations.

I have heard in cd and de that it is either vast amounts of mc just walking or murdering folks who show up all the time. Havent tried or read any reviews of issth

I'd recommend actually reading them. They are all on Wuxiaworld, except Stellar Transformations.

Battle Through The Heavens kind of fits that. Its true that multiple girls vie for him but he only ends up with two of them in the end (and desu most of the girls don't really try for him because they know he is already taken).

I'm liking Cradle. Western series, actually, written by the same guy who did the Traveler's Gate books we've got a jump of. Once it finishes (he's got another nine books planned to go, so it'll be a while) I want to make a jump of it. But yeah, Lindon's pretty refreshing. He does have some moments of stupidity born out of being from a backwater and acting overly polite and accommodating to make up for his lack of knowledge of the culture he's operating in, but for the most part he's just a decent guy in over his head. And he actually has motivations! It's not just "I'm going to become the strongest guy in the world, because" like a lot of xianxia protagonist have, he has a good reason to need strength. It's a bit simplistic, perhaps, he wants to protect his home, but there's enough nuance there that I can actually empathize with it.

Out of curiosity, why would the moons be water worlds?

And what kind of megastructures would you reccomend that have all the benefits of a normal planet?

Do you think ISSH would make good jump ?
You made few jumps, maybe you could do it.

Well, Stellar Transformations is on Wuxiaworld, but the translation is in present tense. That's not how English works, why did you translate it like this?

History's Strongest Senior Brother might be up your alley, along with History's Number 1 Founder. Galactic Dark Net might be considered one. I want to say Transcending The Nine Heavens, but the tag says it has harem and I have only got to around chapter 150.

Can you share some of your OC stuff? I'm interested in reading about other's Briah/Atziluths, Stands, Noble Phantasm, Reality Marbles, Bankais, Sacred Treasures and the like

Not him but Jupiter and Saturn's most famous moons, like Io and Triton, are primarily famous for being frozen over 24/7 and having weird shit like ice volcanos because there's so much freaking ice even the geothermal activity churns it up.

So lots of scientists think there's a big ocean under that layar of ice. And possibly giant alien sea worms.

Most of Jupiter and Saturn's moons are made of ice. Which is good, if you can heat them up you could support an aquatic ecosystem that could produce oxygen, and the gravity is enough to hold an atmosphere at least on the short term (it would fade over hundreds of thousands of years). It's actually believed that some of them, such as Europa, may have life on them already. Tidal flexing heats the cores of the moons, melting them and providing a liquid medium that chemosynthetic life could thrive in.

As for megastructures, there are a lot of options. It's actually not hard to make one that has all the benefits of living on a planet. You just need atmospheric retention and radiation shielding. I'm fond of what's called an "Eder bubble", it's a giant freefall habitat held together by a balance of the pressure of the atmosphere inside it against the gravity of its mass. You wouldn't be able to feel the gravity when inside it, though, it would be very light. If you wanted personal gravity, you could build giant spinning cities, producing centripedal gravity like a space colony. And then you just jump off the edge and you can be soaring in microgravity under your own power with a little wingpack, exploring an enormous ecosystem of flying organisms flitting between the aerial jungles clinging to floating rocks. It would be beautiful.

It's there, yes but in an incomplete form since it moved. For some reason they put it down as 'complete' in the drop-down list. It moved to Translation Nations where it was completed. There's a link on Wuxiaworld in the ST page under chapter 68.

>That's not how English works, why did you translate it like this?
Do... do you think I'm the translator? Why ask me this?
If I remember correctly it had a bit of a rocky road for getting a good translator in it's early days and was passed between a few different ones. I recently reread the last few dozen chapters and the translation quality was very good. Could not tell you where the cut-off point is off-hand as the last time I read it from the beginning was years ago.

I'm very fond of the Supramundane planet concept, myself.
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I just like it, as megastructures go, to be really neat.

Oh, no, I don't think you're the translator. Sorry, I did not mean for this confusion. No, it was just a "speaking to the universe" sort of thing. You know, the "why would this happen?!" idea.

Yeah, mass stream support is cool. It's basically a giant space-erection. Supporting this enormous mass above the planet with the power of a colossal mechanical boner.

Fair for some parts of Coiling Dragon not so much for others. CD is mostly about kingdom building and a vengeance quest before he reaches the higher realms. From there it does become "Walking places the book" for a good while but it eventually recovers.

I've always felt like people who design centripedal cities and habitat bubbles underestimate the sheer scale of maintenance, precision work and infrastructure needed to get one up and running. There's a reason we haven't colonised Antarctica.

I personally like the Forerunner megastructures.

...for the full boner experience, would it be feasible to tap geothermal energy for powering that so it's literally a prosthetic metal dick for the planet?

Yes, and in this hypothetical situation we've got much more advanced construction technology. This is sci-fi, stop trying to bring us down with the "we'd colonize Antarctica long before we'd colonize space" argument. No, screw you, space is full of useful resources while Antarctica is not. We need someplace to live up there while we're extracting them. And yes, an Eder bubble is probably impractical, it makes a lot more sense to build Stamford Tori or O'Neil Cylinders or whatever, but this is for an art piece. You don't build a giant flying ecosystem for any reason other than the art. Fuck you if you think we're trying to make an argument based on practicality.

Well, yeah, if your boner is a circle. Or a large number of little boners arranged in a circle.
Danm, now I've got that image in my head.
>so it's literally a prosthetic metal dick for the planet
The image has now been replaced.

A Space Elevator though is a 'straight' example of what you're talking about. Get it. Straight. Kekeke.

>Yeah, mass stream support is cool
It really is. That said I can understand the reluctance to build and relay on active structures that rely on energetic mechanisms like that to keep up.
So many things would be possible if we had more mature mass stream support tech. Space Elevators, Space Arches (I think they go by another name, can't recall) and really big skyscrapers, the kind that scrape LEO.

The ark looks fantastic but is impossible without lots of gravity manipulation.

My Stands:
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My 'Magical Mona Lisa' from Fate Zero
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Well I'm sold on megastructures now. I'll probably start off terra-colonizing a bunch of Jupiter and Saturn's moons while the first is being constructed, since that seems like a pretty big project even with hypertech junk from multiple settings. Thanks for the help!

I mean the forerunner managed to hide a full scale dison sphere inside of a another smaller dison sphere (shield world of onyx) and made it so the only way into the thing was a meter long slipspace rupture or something. Gravity was more of a suggestion to them.

I'm having trouble with my Briah, personally. I know what I want my Law to do once I reach Atziluth and manifest it across the cosmos, but what it would do at the lower stages is kind of escaping me. Basically I want Song's Deliverance skill from A Geek's Guide: Rise, a quest over on Space Battles (I know, I know, but their quests and creative writing sections are okay). Song's the Aspect of Conflict, so one of his powers lets him make changes to reality to alter what Conflict means. He's been working to minimize the things that make Conflict undesirable and maximize its benefits. There's a joke both in and out of character that he's making the world into a shonen anime. So it's easier for people to train and to learn from life experiences, the divide between the heights of divine power and human endeavor has been shortened, people are more willing to listen to opposing views, rivalries based on mutual respect make both sides stronger...like I said, it's one big shonen anime ever since he got reality-editing powers. So I want to make that my Law, with the desire of "We deserve better", but I have no idea what it would be when not making sweeping changes to the fabric of the universe. I guess just applying the ANIME IS REAL effect to my personal life? Seems kind of underwhelming compared to other Briahs, then. I've already got most of those effects for myself by virtue of being a Jumper, I don't need Nazi kabbalah to change that.

Just do rotating habitats or colonize the big asteroids in the belt. If you have fusion, you could even search for planetoids and big asteroids in the outer-skirts of the solar system.

Give everybody uncappers and training boosters that scale on willpower.

Yes they were very impressive both from a technical and ascetic viewpoint. Their work on Dyson Spheres was especially impressive.

I'd recommend when you are ready building a supramundane shell over Jupiter. If you've been to Biochock Infinite there is a perk there for getting a grasp of Leteuce particles that can repalce mass stream support, or in one of the SW jumps get repulsorlift tech to do the same.
A complete supramundane shell would give ridiculous amounts of living space. A supramundane Jupiter shell would give 317 times Earth's surface alone!

>I know, I know, but their quests and creative writing sections are okay
That's been my experience too. I've never strayed out of those areas and from what I've heard I've been lucky/wise not to.

Also that sounds amazing. I'm sure we have a genre-shifting perk or two somewhere that might encompass the entire setting that could do what you are looking for.

My stand: (stats and stuff are all for its requiem form, but the first 2 powers were there before the upgrade)
-Stand Name: Royal Blood Requiem
-Stand Type(s): Close Range
-Stand Stats
--Destructive Power: A
--Speed: A
--Range: E
--Durability: Variable
--Precision: A
--Developmental Potential: E
-Appearance: This stand is bound to whichever sword is wielded by the stand user.
-Stand Powers
--Power 1: This weapon can phase through objects and people at will.
--Power 2: If Royal Blood phases through somebody in what would be a fatal blow, they instead fall unconscious with no permanent damage.
--Requiem Power: When Royal Blood attacks an enemy, it can also damage any linked or associated enemies (hit a soldier and damage the entire army, hit a pokemon and hurt the trainer, etc.).

Eh, I prefer Dyson swarms. Especially if you can get space-adapted plants developed so that you can make a living solar system. Because from there you can potentially make a Niven-style smoke ring, and I've wanted one of those ever since I read Integral Trees. Really, I just want microgravity ecosystems. Those appeal to me a lot.

What tier of Briah are you looking for? Reinhard's Law manifested as an world of eternal Law, but his Briah is a giant fortress made out of skeleton that can be used to passively absorb souls, spawn them as minions and fire lasers. I mean, it fits his war theme, somehow, but if you are aiming for a 4th tier, you could probably pull whatever bullshit you want. Maybe since you are aiming for an shonen bullshit, you could do something like Boosted Gear that amplified your strength passively over time since active? Or something that makes you stronger than you enemy no matter the foe.

So what jump is out most technologically advanced? Or has the most advanced races in them. Please no Rick and Mort or Futurama, they're based on cartoon logic and rule of funny more than anything.

Can you post btth please valk?

Probably Doctor Who,Tenchi, DC or Marvel? If we count magitech, you could add Dies Irae and D.Y.N. Freaks.

Dies Irae has technology? I thought it was all just the power of muh soul shit.

Well, I was thinking either go for Fourth Tier, or go for a lower tier and combine Round and Round with Beast of Possibility to build up effects by going through Die Ewigkeit over and over again. Because there's a bunch of separate effects I want to put into my Law, so I figure I should need a varied Briah as a foundation. But you're right, I'm probably overthinking this, it can be symbolically-related abilities. Maybe something with probability manipulation, encourage the world to act as I want it to? Or power negation could work, too, reduce the strength of the wicked. I don't think directly enhancing myself really makes sense for what I want, it's less about empowering myself (though I could benefit) and more about helping everyone rise above the limits the world places on them. I'll think about it.

Soul shit done with ancient Hebrew math. That's kind of like technology. If you squint and turn your head sideways.

Sure.
I just finished grammar checking it with a bit of help. I've also added some clarifications to things that were not clear previously. (One of my previous saves definitely didn't save, since 2 perks were still in their 'WIP' state)

Also, Internet is being weird again

>Dyson Swarms
Funnily enough they are alot more realistic than Dyson spheres, where the sphere is a single large shell, given what material we have RL. And originally Dyson was talking about a Sphere in the sense of a region where something like a Swarm could be built or put in place. But people didn't understand and thought he was talking about a single large construct.
>Really, I just want microgravity ecosystems. Those appeal to me a lot.
To be honest, I'm of the oppposite opinion. I see the megastructures role as being to reproduce Earth environments elsewhere in the cosmos, including gravity. Still, whatever rocks your boat, user.

The Throne itself was made from a pretty advanced civilization and was the first one to have a God sit on it.

>when you realize she's drinking his soul in that gif

>Funnily enough they are alot more realistic than Dyson spheres, where the sphere is a single large shell, given what material we have RL. And originally Dyson was talking about a Sphere in the sense of a region where something like a Swarm could be built or put in place. But people didn't understand and thought he was talking about a single large construct.
Yeah, it's weird how people have misinterpreted it. What would you even do with a solid sphere? It would be so delicate, you couldn't put anyone on there to live.

>To be honest, I'm of the oppposite opinion. I see the megastructures role as being to reproduce Earth environments elsewhere in the cosmos, including gravity. Still, whatever rocks your boat, user.
I mean, I want those, too. But not in huge amounts. Gravity is the enemy, it is the gravity well that restricts our expansion out in the universe. It can be nice to play in, but I wouldn't want to live there. At most I'd simulate it with centripedal force.

Solid sphere would only really be useful to collect energy, even then the amount you'd use to keep the thing stable would make it almost worthless.

I'd love a ISSTH jump. As far as I know no ones claimed it.
I've got a lot on my plate right now, but once it's cleared I may just do that.
I don't quite feel comfortable going so far as to make a claim, but once my plate's clear and if no one's picked it up, I may just do it.

Sorry for not responding sooner. I completely missed your post.

Yeah. If you're really that dedicated to extracting all the energy possible from a star, just dismantle it for hydrogen and fuse it in smaller fusion reactors. Lots of small ones would have more efficiency and better capture rates than one giant one at the core of a massive ball of plasma.

No problemo.

But then you have to not only build a ton of fusion reactors and hydrogen storage containers, you've also got to pull a star apart without losing the matter you're harvesting.

If you can do that, I don't think you really need the star for energy in the first place.

Sure you do. The point isn't to get a lot of energy all at once, it's to make it last. Remove all that inefficiency, keep your fusion reactors burning long past the point when some dumb old star would have gone into the red giant phase.

Are there any perks that let you freely do a "training montage" or automatically create montage videos after rapid training periods?

Better option would be to study the White Hole you can buy from SupCom and replicate it.