What are some good syfy/fantasy books Veeky Forums?

Veeky Forums are abunc of elitists that are worse then english teachers at finding meaning in random shit also as other anons have said they hate genre fiction

Show me in the text where your English teacher hurt you, user.

If you haven't already, Tales of the Dying Earth by Jack Vance

I haven't read them yet but I've heard good thing about the Viriconium books

Also, classic sci-fi like Dune and Ringworld are fun

Revelation Space is pretty great.

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They have a fantasy and science fiction general.
This thread isn’t Veeky Forums-related just because the books are scifi or fantasy.

Sabriel was pretty good, honestly though it kind feels like a prologue to the sequels.

The 13 1/2 Lives of Captain Bluebear by Walter Moers

his other books are good too but you don't get as much world building

seconding

Majipoor series

Malazan has some pretty top world building. Push through Gardens of the Moon and you'll learn about Ascendancy, the undead races chained to a singular purpose, the various humanoid races, fucking Caladan Brood, and Karsa Orlong, and Quick Ben.

Good series.

> Sci-fi
Known Space
> Fantasy
The Realm of the Elderlings series. 5 trilogies that are great if you can get past one main character's habit of moping over every little thing that goes wrong.

Hehehehe

Scroderiders.

I honestly thought this series was pretentious as fuck.

Black company series is pretty fantastic. Fantasy mercs and all that

He says he needs ideas for worldbuilding. Thus, Veeky Forums. Please remove stick from your ass

Explain

It's in love with itself.

It's hot garbage that only mongs and people that have never read anything better gush about.

Step 1. Look up the word pretentious
Step 2. Get over your butthurt
Step 3. Kill yourself.

>The Realm of the Elderlings

Is THAT what they're fucking called. I've always wondered if there was an overarching name for those.

Seconding the reccomendation, especially the first two trilogies (Assassin and Liveship Traders). It's not like they're ever particularly upbeat, but after that they turn into some pretty hardcore misery porn, so your mileage may vary.

>Assassin

*Farseer

>Vinge
8/10
>Kay
fucking 10/10 can't read normal fantasy anymore
>Throne of the Crescent Moon
8/10 pretty rad and well written
>Vance
that's just classics
>Dune
another classics
>Ringworld
ditto
>Revelation Space
I'm not a huge fan of Reynolds' ideas, but his writing manages to hook me up baka
>Sabriel
meh
>Known Space
Kzin the best aliens

>baka
s o m e h o w

Jurassic Park. Sphere, Congo, Dune, and Dune 4 electric boogaloo the God Emperor's Day Out.

I'm actually reading that shit right now. Easily one of the most graphic "Teen Novels" I've ever read. Reminds me of Bartimaeus and Artemis Fowl.

Seconding. Also you're forgetting fucking Rake.

Mazalan starts off pretty cool, but then gets kind of meh when too many overpowered characters are introduced.

Virconium is extremely good. Harrison's sci-fi stuff is too.

Eh, I didn't really felt that way. There's obscenly powerful character, but they rarely get directly involved in anything but events of a scale of their own. The common characters get left to their struggles for the greatest part of the story, save for timely participation from times to times.
Beside the overpowered character are by no mean invulnerables, if anything the limit between mortals and gods is very nebular

Now Esslement works, that's way more disappointing.

I've been bingeing on The Black Company. It's just so comfyand I can't put my finger on why .

Is there a book or book series which is fantasy on the surface, but is secretly or revealed to be SciFi?

A Fire Upon the Deep
Foundation and Earth ( the rest of the Foundation books, too. but this one is my favourite )
The Hyperion Cantos
Conan
Dune
Neuromancer

I didn't like The Black Company. It felt like I was reading a power fantasy fanfiction written by some edgy teenager.

ASoIaF

explain please?

Well, i think the pic related by Karl Edward Wagner is pretty good.

Not secretly, but Dragonriders of Pern is somewhere in that realm.

Is Liveship Traders any good, then?
I've been holding off on it because I don't actually give a fuck about the damn ships. I've read the rest of them, though.

Also, the misery porn pays off in the endings of the trilogies. They make all the trauma seem worth it.

You're looking for Book of the New Sun, 100%

The Xanth series is pretty good.

>Is Liveship Traders any good, then?
I've never read a story where the author hated their characters more.

The authos has a think with rape,specially boy rape. Fucking pirate dude or Fitz, the way they play with your emotions it's pretty. The way he writes it's very feminine too, I don't know if extremely gay or a female in disguise of a guy.

It shall remain skipped, then. I have no desire to read about so entitled a ship as Paragon any more than I have to.

>The way he writes it's very feminine too, I don't know if extremely gay or a female in disguise of a guy.
Robin Hobb is a woman, you fool.

>The 13 1/2 Lives of Captain Bluebear by Walter Moers
Fuck yeah