So uh, does teeg think of this?

Uh

No

How is this different than any other D&D group?

Yeah. That's why D&D is natural fit here.
They would struggle with freeform.

I tried to play D&D but struggled with the character as I could not figure out what a person's defining traits might be and then how to express them via roleplaying as them. How the fuck do you act like someone?

autismsupportnetwork.com/news/autism-aspergers-and-imagination-399902883

That's why in every character you put a bit of yourself.

A good idea, and it makes sense: it's a way for them to build relationships in an environment with defined relationships and procedures for interacting with each other.

Not imagination, no. Generally the main issue that they have is communication. The main thing for autism to happen is an imbalance in the regulatory area of "feeling", which encompasses both our feelings and what we see as ethics. This mean that hormonally it just gets screwed - which is why autists can end up obsessed about a sole subject; it triggers a super strong dopamine reaction, while everything else has a reduced one. Now what's interesting is that either they manifest the emotions very, very strongly because of that... or they just bottle it up due to getting overwhelmed. Hence why they can throw shitfits or seem in another place entirely.

Imagination gets a bit finnicky in that it often only happens in whatever they're obsessed with at the moment. So an autist super focused in music may only be interested in creativity through music, while another which loves math has that focus show through... math. And that's when it gets weird, because things like that (or whatever it is, be it videogames or railway model building) aren't generally associated with creativity.

more like AD(&)D
ziiing!

You know, I was having a crappy day until I read this just now. It's kind of heart-warming, in a bizarre way, to know that at least one other person imagined themselves in elaborate movies. user, you're awesome and should feel awesome.

>Nova Scotia
I finally have people to play with.

Am Autistic, and I think you have it a bit twisted.

I think being key here, because my creativity is in writing and to a lesser extent acting. Both of these are big in roleplaying games, aren't they?

But I mean, that's not all I'm interested in. It is however, what I'm most creative in, and I get a rush from things outside of writing and roleplaying, just a lesser amount.

You're uh...you're welcome, my guy

>all this damage control
kekkkkkkkkkkkkkk

Kinda not surprising.

Veeky Forums related stuff is an autism magnet in the first place.

I think yours is more storytelling than anything. And as I said, it's reduced. Not nonexistent. And it is to varying levels, of course, and it manifests in different ways because in everyone it manifests in differenety ways. Anyhow, the bottom line is that autistic folks are people and they express themselves differently even amongst other autists.

Right on, mate. Sorry for misunderstanding you.

How the fuck is this news?

Its a human interest piece. It's what people put on the news in small towns. And sometimes they get passed up to larger scale stuff cause it might make someone go "Awwww" when they read it.

>I didn't really think actual autists could into RPGs? Don't they have problems with empathy and imagination?
Nope. I'm on the spectrum and have been playing for almost a decade now. My friends regard me as a skilled roleplayer. I even taught them much of what they know about roleplaying etiquette.

>empathy
People with autism don't generally have a problem with empathy; they tend to mean well, have strong moral compasses, and feel emotions intensely. The problem is with decoding others' emotions, selecting an appropriate response, and displaying appropriate emotional signals themselves. When I do successfully decode other peoples' emotions, I can empathize a lot. It's something which people generally improve as they become adults. The problem is that when you fail to read people and react appropriately, they sometimes assume something deeply negative (i.e. 'he hates me', 'he's a psycho', 'what a jackass', etc).

>imagination
That's a misconception. Probably due to autistic tendencies for ritual-like behaviors, intense focus on a narrow subject-area, and increased desire for stability in their everyday lives. You'll find that people with autism will demonstrate remarkable imagination in their areas of interest.

That said, some people are worse off than others; that's why it's a spectrum. I'm doing alright; most people say they don't notice anymore, and I get along with humans at a job which takes a bit of social interaction, but I still occasionally say or do things which are off-color. Someone on the extreme end of the spectrum might be wheelchair-bound and unable to communicate.

We don't have very much going on in Canada, and much less in Nova Scotia.

>It’s good?
>Autists generally don’t have it easy. If D&D can help them have it a little better fine by me.
>I still think D&D is shit, but that’s another story.

This

Have you seen the people who use this board?

As a diagnosed autist, I support this thread.

>That one on the right
>When the Mecury Hit and the bloodstream becomes toxic, shredding your underdeveloped brain tissues.

Haven’t they done a few interviews with west coast groups that do stuff like this on Dragon Talk?

I wonder if D&D could work with my little cousin. The only thing that could really register him on Christmas Eve was sharp/strong emotional responses or saying you'd play Smash Brothers with him.

>9 years old
>Just clinging to my leg as I walked around
>He just made animal/baby-like screeches the entire time

DOES NOBODY REMEMBER "I AM OVERWATCH"

suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/18458666/

real autism in games can lead to some pretty neato shit

Uh...

Maybe. Is he verbal?

That's a different kind of autism

A+

Stop being autistic

It's a rather good analysis of the average fa/tg/uy.

You're probably gonna need advice of medical professional on that one.

>imagined themselves in elaborate movies
There's people who don't?

I fucking knew! I knew you fucking autistfags were really here!

Goddamn does feel good to be vindicated.

Er, you're welcome?

>The problem is with decoding others' emotions, selecting an appropriate response, and displaying appropriate emotional signals themselves.
When people talk about a lack of empathy this is what they're talking about. Empathy is generally being used to mean the ability to mirror someone else's emotional state, to imagine yourself as them, etc. It's the understanding of what someone else is feeling because you're feeling it yourself. Barring mixed signals or incomplete information people with autism usually do this mostly automatically. When I hear people with autism talk about some of this social stuff it always sounds like they need to go through a very deliberate process for this. I think it most case people don't mean to imply the person with autism doesn't care what others feel.

Autistics should be put in a gas chamber.

This wasn't news, user. Though as points out, literal autism and Veeky Forums autism are two different things.

>I knew you fucking autistfags were really here!
You're god damn right we're here

>Veeky Forums autism
It's more like, 'autism' has taken on meaning as a kind of internet slang referring to intense focus or dedication. It carries the implication that the 'autist' has pursued the subject of his autism to the detriment of other areas in his life, particularly in social interaction.

legit autist here
haven't played dnd yet but i do like lego's heroica set, if only because its more concrete, simple, and generally less abstract than how i've seen the former so far
still trying to make some deeper house rules tho
like getting more classes, multiple spells, monster health bars, etc

>teeg
>te eg
>TE FUCKING EGG
IT'S TEE-GEE, TEE-GEE YOU CUNTWIPE NEWFAG FUCKWIT. GET IT RIGHT OR I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU

>simpsons

>Religion

Good luck with that, user.

But wouldn't autists be awful at roleplaying games since they literally cannot stop metagaming? I suspect all our resident That Guys suffer from some degree of autism.

>didn't read the thread

This. It's nice to read a story every once in a while that isn't about violent crime or somebody losing their home to a fire. I can get behind occasionally seeing happier stuff on the news.

In my experience people on the spectrum tend to enjoy tabletop games a lot, and I've got a theory as to why.

People on the spectrum, at least not at the extreme end, do often enjoy human interaction, they just find it overwhelming or confusing, having to try and parse the social rules and figure out how to act.

However, if you give them a game to play while doing so, suddenly things get simpler. The only rules they're worrying about are the rules of the game, which are clear and explicit, and that helps guide the social aspect of it in a way they can feel more comfortable with. I've seen this in boardgames, wargames and roleplaying games, and it's something I think has a lot of value in helping people learn how to socialise in an otherwise controlled environment.

I know a kid who does that but he's like 3-4 and he recently started saying things like "mom", "chips" and "baby (himself)". It's a bit of a torture sometimes but doctors say he's a pretty normal kid, just about 2 years younger in behaviour. Your cousin could have a kinda normal life but he needs proffesional help.

The people saying you need advice of a professional are probably right, but my instinct is to say "try it" if only because I know what the future holds in store for an autistic Smash Brothers maniac. D&D would definitely be a step up.

Sorry, I have autism too, don't be mean to me

Both things aren't contradictory. I got a friend who is a psychiatrist and he uses adapted roleplaying games to solve a lot of issues. With great success, according to him. Granted he has worked with bulimic teengirls and rich drug addicts, but I guess it's perfectly doable for autists and everyone in general. Not even thein worst autists are lower than druggies.

There's a reason why everyone's first few characters are almost always self inserts. It takes practice to switch gears from thinking "what would I do" to "what would my character do".

As for what you can do, you could try mimicking a character from a book/show that you know well enough to guess what they'd do in a given situation.

It's the end of the year, I guess Veeky Forums can finally get a break now. Next year, there will be enough negativity to fill a country with.

this

Good. Now block the door and set the place on fire, autistic retards go and stay go.

But don't they have trouble separating character knowledge and their own?

>Doctor literally who watches that shit?

So those people who always try to build characters based on a very specific idea of their (unusual) style of fighting, or how the character looks, are they autists?

...

What would these people even do while daydreaming?

Also, I really hope this is normal...

Oh, definitely. It isn't so much that autists don't like human interaction, it's just that about 90% of the time people don't give a shit about the stuff they like, and they pretty much learn that all of their life - not so much that what they like is badwrongfun, just that no one cares so don't bugger them.

Putting them in a game? Suddenly most people have at the very least a modicum of interest in it, and that gets something to hold on to and be able to talk about easily.
>I know what the future holds in store for an autistic Smash Brothers maniac
Becoming Mew2King?

>Becoming Mew2King?
That's the autistic Golden Ticket. On the other hand, AuraChannelerChris.

It's not that I don't think video games can't be a good teaching tool in the right hands. It's just, have you seen the autistic corners of Smash fandom?

A news media outlet grand standing for feel goods. What a shocker.

>AuraChannelerChris
What's with turboautists and the name Chris?

Carlos

>autistic folks are people
You went full retard there

Do autists seek out and enjoy the company of other autists or is it merely a thing where you're both obsessed with the same subject at the same time? Or do real auties not like one another regardless? Also explain your answer please.

He would need to be verbal. However there are a number of dnd like board games he might enjoy. Depends on what aspect of smash bros he likes, but the idea is a little higher class game for you and a segway into dnd later. An avenue of communication beyond holding your leg and screeching.

Did you also discover water is wet at some point?

Like others have said, it's a spectrum. This includes this as well. Just because two people like a thing doesn't mean they'll like each other, and just because two people have the same condition likewise doesn't meant they'll like each others. Or even truly understand each other!

I can understand other Autistics on a very superficial level. I can understand their stimms, why they may be getting upset, and even easily discern why. But beyond that? Their innermost workings, thought-processes, world view, any of that? Not a fucking clue, unless they tell me.

I think it's proven pretty convincingly that DnD doesn't cure autism or treat it in anyway SEE: every autistic player

I understand and connect with people with on the spectrum better than neurotypicals do. A few childhood friends said that I was the only person to understand them for this reason. Some people on the extreme end of the spectrum are more annoying than I'm willing to tolerate. Also, some older people who grew up without being diagnosed or understood have developed behaviors and personality traits which make them difficult to be around.

It's like with anyone else; people who are similar tend to find themselves drawn to the same places and activities.

>is it merely a thing where you're both obsessed with the same subject at the same time
Sometimes, but this is not at all unique to autistics. Neurotypical friendships begin this way too.

>dnd doesn't cure autism
Neither does anything else. No pills, no pseudo-science therapy, nothing yet. There are a lot of things which help us manage better (knowledgeable teachers and parents are a big one), but we just have to live with our gifts and curses, and keep on plugging along like other people do. However, high-functioning autism (i.e. aspergers, as opposed to low-functioning) has enough upsides and is manageable enough that it shouldn't even be considered a disease. Even if someone invented a way to 'cure' it, I'd turn it down because autism has helped me reach success in life.

>Even if someone invented a way to 'cure' it, I'd turn it down because autism has helped me reach success in life.

I'm apparently quite high functioning, but I have not known any success. Just obstacles and despair. I am glad some of us know some sort of success.

As for curing it? I myself am unsure. Because one thing I obsess over, and apparently other Autistics do as well, are my bad deeds. It makes me very remorseful, and gives me a conscious, as such I try to...well, be as good as I can. If curing it would take that way from me, I too would turn it down.

Autists should not only have their own containment games, but if it were possible, their own containment Veeky Forums

I felt sort of like that when I was a teenager. I just kept plugging away at class, had some luck and in my mid-20s I find myself in my own place, with no debt or mental problems, making more money than either of my parents, and with a small group of friends and a decent gf.

I still sometimes double over holding my head whispering words (i.e. 'kill yourself', 'you don't deserve life', etc) when I think about mild misstatements I made 12-16 years ago, like misusing the word "reluctant". Weirdly it lasts a few seconds and doesn't affect my mood much once it's over. I got used to doing that every few weeks when I'm stressed, but I don't let it get me down.

Ah. yeah, those intrusive thoughts can be real nightmares my brot. Sometimes you can shake them easy, sometimes you can't. I'm glad you've got the tools you need to shake that shit.

I'm still having bad obstacles right now. It seems like everytime I get closer to a goal, it is cruelly snatched away from me at the last moment and I've started to become pretty bitter and jaded, almost ready to give up even attempting to be successful or anything, because it just feels like everything seems rigged against me, as paranoid as that sounds.

Here, take a wee psychic internet hug. I real glad for you.

I imagine myself as god emperor of my own space empire or imperial rome

>when the initial post of the thread also happens to be the best post of the thread

I wonder if autistic people play DnD like they're in the dreamatorium.

Like the entire population of TG isn't on the autism spectrum.

That and/or Kinsey scale.

I think RPG's have a lot of things to offer kids, especially if ran by an adult with the idea of teaching lessons. Social interactions, teamwork, coming to consensus, basic maths and literacy are all skills that it can improve and are worth improving. Especially with the current generation of shut in autisic basementdwellers that seems to have emerged.

So I think official RPG club should be something in every Jr High and High School.

Though not really related, I've also seen articles on how prisoners can be rehabilitated by playing D&D/other systems, in a way.

Daydreaming is pretty normal, dudes. It's just that most people don't bother talking about it.

Stick to comedy.

TEEGEE TEEGEE MACARONI MACARONI

Na, just that every new fag redditor thinks being an edgy little shit will help them fit in.