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What are some commanders that cheese like affinity and dredge do in modern?
Pls no big cheese
Owen Turner
Kaalia and Alesha for Master of Cruelties shenanigans.
Chase James
C17 commanders with Eminence. Edgar and Inalla as far as I remember.
>Never have to leave the command zone
Jordan Harris
What are some cards to make the c17 cats better?
Jordan Morris
None, it's a trash deck
Oliver Baker
Anyone have any tips and suggestions for this guy? I feel as though im too heavy on dorks and mana rocks and not running enough dragons...
I know the deck is fairly straightforward but I feel as though im missing a lot from it, such as early game card draw and some answers to control and combo
Charles Hill
Gishath is bad and you should feel bad
Jund dino is much superior when he gets spoiled
Brandon Diaz
>dredge Gitrog.
Also, is there something as too much cheese? Because Sneak Attack, Show and Tell, and Natural Order are all legal in commander.
Connor Gonzalez
That 2/1 infect cat if Eminence cat is the commander.
Blade of Selves if Stoneforge cat is the commander.
I think that user is more referring to decks that can cheese wins in just a couple turns. Edgar and Inalla are very good, but I think that guy is looking for truly OP shit more like Food Chain, Hermit Druid, and Doomsday.
Benjamin Howard
>release meme commander >0 support >errata a bunch of stuff into dinos >all of them suck ass except for 1
how does wizards manage to fuck up every goddamn time?
Dylan Richardson
It needs to not rely on other creatures with types that will barely be printed anymore.
Liam Morales
>What do Dinosaurs need from Rivals to make Gishath (or another Dino lord) to be viable outside of the most casual metagames? just needs more dinosaurs. gishath is going to suck no matter what cause its tribal that isnt elves, zambies, or goblins
gishath is basically just a shitty ur dragon
Nathaniel Morris
more dinos with 5+ power to justify Mayael as commander.
Angel Parker
A few threads ago someone brought up pic and I think it looks really fun. Is it worth running things like Arcane Adaption so any non-moon creatures you got can count towards his tribute moonfolk? Anyone got some lists?
>tfw now have another deck to start building At least most of his shit's cheap except for things like training ground.
Jonathan Stewart
So I've been brewing up a Zada list and it's surprisingly hard to find the right ratio of cantrips and token generators, while also leaving room for interaction and ramp. Help me plz.
No Sol Ring though, because it's banned in my playgroup, which might inform you about my play environment a bit.
Isaiah Morgan
My advice - play Scion instead
Blake Morris
Exactly. He might be a piece of shit and I hate his guts, but he's just straight up better.
Carter Perez
How many times have you gone all the way with Fiery Gambit?
Matthew Mitchell
Dinosaur tribal is made for standard and 60 card casual. Gishath was made exclusively to make retards shut up about a tribal commander. It doesn't matter how shitty it is. Just look at the following card-shaped abortions: >Gishath, Sun's Avatar >Admiral Beckett Brass >Unesh, Criosphinx Sovereign >Neheb, the Worthy >Depala, Pilot Exemplar >Ulrich of the Krallenhorde >Ishkanah, Grafwidow >Sigarda, Heron's Grace
Cameron Mitchell
>Fiery Gambit
Jacob Johnson
Several times. It's one of the better win conditions. You have a roughly 1/8 chance of getting a triple, so if you 8 or more targets you're statistically likely to get at least one. Sometimes you just need to stop at 2 a couple times though, because that 6 damage adds up.
Andrew James
Arcane Adaptation isn't really worth it to make Moonfolk offering worthwile. You may play a few moonfolk but the ones that are good enough to play are similarly mana-expensive and you'll want to keep them around.
I'd focus on the high tide aspect of the deck more to get patron out faster rather than the offering.
tappedout.net/mtg-decks/patron-of-the-moon-high-tide/ is a decent starting list that splits the difference with some of the lesser moonfolk included. How much you play to the tribal theme is a up to you, just realize that it's probably not the most efficient or powerful route to take.
Jackson Ross
elder dino highlander
four player casual format, 99 singleton + 1 elder dino
mostly tribal-themed decks with cards matching your elder dino’s color identity
Isaac Edwards
>buddy built a Oona infinite combo deck >i've always been the guy known for infinite combos >spent all day getting my shit countered until he could just exile everyone's libraries with infinite mana >Oh so this is why everyone hates me
So I tore apart my Derevi stax and my infinite combo Breya deck and built Daretti. What should I do for a wincon? Beating people to death with Wurmcoil is fun, but sometimes you need something concrete.
Gavin Thomas
>playing 4 player edh >cast enchantment and creatures >dumb beaner playing izzet always says “actually I was gonna counterspell but you didn’t give me time” every time he sees the combo is about to kill him Blue players am I right
Michael Nguyen
>Derevi stax >infinite combo Breya get out
William Robinson
Unesh is actually pretty good.
Brandon Reyes
I will apologize for Derevi because it was built out of spite, but not Breya. I never understood what a toolbox deck was until I built that thing.
God I loved that deck.
Hudson Price
This is why you just ask if it resolves every spell like an autist. Some people get annoyed by it but if they won't play right willingly I'll force them to. Every spell gets verbal confirmation that it resolves and every trigger goes off perfectly so nobody can complain. Take backs and the like are honestly cheating to me unless its from a genuine lack of knowledge of the rules when you cast something
Samuel Miller
>Neheb, the Worthy
if only he had white
Leo Thomas
Boros got the fun Minotaurs
Mason Reyes
Too bad the black one is beyond shit as a commander.
Hunter Anderson
yeah, damn shame neheb isn't white what were they thinking
Jose Price
>Neheb the Eternal is one of the coolest designs in recent magic, both cardwise and aesthetically >they kill him off It's no fair.
Liam Kelly
Chandra's ignition is a viable non-combat oriented win condition right? Just pump your dudes a bit and then ignition on everyone's faces?
Jordan Bailey
Unless your dudes are indestructible, no. The first ignition resolves, killing the rest of your board and subsequently fizzling the rest.
Ian Flores
Or ProRed a la Akroma's Memorial
Joseph Hernandez
Deep nvm Prided would make targeting impossible.
Isaiah Diaz
The creature deals damage, so you need to ignite a black/red creature for that to work.
Adrian Diaz
Yea but Ignition Targets and is Red itself I played myself with that post but I don't know how to delete on mobile ap
Josiah Lopez
I'm planning on maining Eldrazi Monument so no worries there.
Henry Barnes
>Thread question A commander that doesn't cost 8 fucking mana.
Sebastian Robinson
back to /pol/
really though, you could make a special case to include the command zone
Jose Morris
Ramp and fixing is extremely important. Be sure to balance between rocks, dorks, and spells, two of each basic, the tri-lands, some green/red duals, and a few untap target land druids. Run arcane adaptation to make everything a dragon, sunbird's invocation for some cascading dragons, and never underestimate how much that -1 to costs adds up over a game. Get yourself a reanimation suite and get dragons into play. Give them haste with ogre battledriver, samut, etc. Add in a panharmonicon and reanimate multiple dragons with ever after to chain etb effects and create more dragons.
Don't play Scion as your Commander, it gets boring. Maybe in a competitive pod, and it would be built differently... But Ur-Dragon is miles away tons more fun to play long term at 75% competitive.
Isaiah Thompson
Oh yes. Please tell me more.
Angel Powell
>LabMan, Food Chain, Hermit Druid, and Ad Naus are banned How does your meta change?
David Wright
If someone in our group plays animar, do i basically need to disassemble my mono black deck?
Caleb Rogers
None.
Camden Johnson
Only giving first strike unless you're heckbent is beyond awful though, even if he were Mardu colors.
Jacob Clark
Just play actual dredge with either Sidisi or Jarad
Hudson Nguyen
Banning the most common combo pieces doesn’t actually change anything - people will just switch to the next best combos. The real problem is that aggro and normal control are hampered so much by having 3x opponents and 40 starting life.
Caleb Reed
just use some colorless and sac spells ya ding dong
Elijah Rivera
wraths of different flavors are pretty sweet, especially combined with tutors.
Jayden Wright
Ulrich isn’t even a decent card to begin with.
Zachary Morgan
Playgroup just became "Tier 1 netdeck or you lose" central. Mfw.
Kevin Torres
>Black having trouble dealing with creatures >EVER To this date, Sigarda 1.0 has been its toughest nut to crack but even she can be brought down if you plan for it. Take some Animar hate: Tainted aether Spreading plague Night of souls betrayal Toxic deluge Damnation Sudden spoiling Sheoldred Grave Pact Dictate of Erebos Grip of Desolation Oblivion Strike Complete Disregard
Jacob Johnson
Depala is decent for vehicles at least.
Juan Fisher
muh spicy Original(TM) homebrew
Carter Ross
>doesn't actually change anything Nonsense If "the next best combos" available are all shit then it lends more power to the weaker archetypes
Brayden Robinson
Deck Idea: Milky Mommies - or - Titty Tribal
I'm thinking Saskia as the commander. Not the biggest rack, but 4 colors is pretty hard to pass up.
Daniel Wood
What's the most politically nuanced deck someone can build? Something that really flys under the radar and builds advantage while getting players to murder each other.
Jacob Butler
WBR facesit tribal w/ Mommy Marchesa
Adam Edwards
I pulled three of that shitter from separate packs
Liam Bailey
Vehicle tribal almost manages to be worse than Dinosaur tribal in how much support there is. Enjoy one standard rotation of new cards before the mechanic is thrown away and forgotten forever.
Isaiah Diaz
Gahiji Keep it simple, Stupid
Cameron Barnes
Fuck you, Sigarda is a great tribal commander and anyone who says otherwise is shit. SHIT. SSHHHEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIITTTTT!!!!
Aaron Miller
>Beckett Brass Well to be fair, pirate tribal as a whole is fucking shite.
Nolan Jenkins
becky has all the colors needed for steal shit tribal
Benjamin Martinez
>decide to branch out and finally play at my LGS for the first time >middle of first game >guy yawns loudly and goes "me sweeepy" and abruptly leaves with no further explanation
fuck this never again
Jackson Turner
>Have the deckbuilding bug >Literally no idea what I want to build FUCK
Gavin Harris
GW slivers/changlings/tribal goodstuffs
Camden Flores
>wrath of god exists Why do people play this shit card?
Carter Gomez
I want to build Grusilda, but having to ask everyone "hey are you guys okay with me using my illegal deck xD" before every fucking game seems miserable.
Nathan Gonzalez
This. Queen Facesit is the most lewd. Just look into her eyes and imagine her talking down to you for your misplays and try not to get hard.
Adrian Flores
because the odds of you having wraths of god in hand on curve are very low in a singleton 100 card format
next stupid question
Liam Phillips
> be me > khanafenza player > +1/+1 counter barfing with a side of hatebears > play heliod because army in a can > groan as eveyone ridicules me for turning off my own commander's ability
Austin Roberts
Nah, you posted this threads ago. Fuck off, queermo, nobody likes your pathetic attempts at erotic imagery.
Dominic Morales
What commander should I play if I want to assemble different rube goldberg machines every game and have multiple lines of play? Thinking one of these guys
Austin Garcia
...
Oliver Harris
I for one wish there was more Magic lewds and porn I'll probably draw some myself when I git gud enough
Jason Stewart
Hellkite Tyrant and mirror works
Robert Long
Sharuum is the only good answer to "what if I like artifacts?".
When someone breaks your toy, she'll fetch it and put it back together for you.
Parker Gonzalez
So do I, but some neckbeard talking about how he wants Marchessa to berate him does not make for smut.
Juan Russell
What are some fun combos with happy hippo that aren't group hug focused? I want the deck to use his abilities to punish my opponents as much as possible. I thought about just going super pillow fort and watching opponents kill each other with hippos and such but I'd like a bit more if its out there
I plan to do the same user, its something to be proud of. We can both make it!
Tyler Collins
I should probably make sure to mention happy hippo is phelddagrif
Justin Evans
>we can both make it. I believe in us bro. So long as wizards doesn't shut it down. Yeah fair
Jaxon Morales
Daretti is probably better overall, but Slobad protects your machine pieces and gives you an on demand sac outlet for stuff like Myr Retriever/Junk Diver/Workshop Assistant/Scrap Trawler/etc. so I usually prefer him for just dicking around with combos.
With Slobad, they won't break your toys in the first place.
Blake Price
Good news! It's legal (for now).
Anthony Roberts
>be dinofag >wizards prints dinos finally >build gishath >its ok. Needs more support >load it with tons of ramp and Naya foodstuff for now >never be so excites for next set
Honestly all we need are 5-10 solid dinos. The elder dinos will be guaranteed playable. So we need like 6 or 7 bomby dudes.
Also more errata are coming (hello Regal Behemoth)
Ryder Richardson
I'd ridicule you for playing such a brainlet archetype first. I bet your meta has an average of one board wipe per deck.
Adrian Myers
>get dub trips >misspell that many words
Fuck me
Matthew Young
I like Naya foodstuff
Ayden Jackson
good question, user. hey why play creatures at all? they just get wrath of god'd every time in this singleton form-wait a second...
Aaron Wilson
Any brewers got input on these bad girls? I'm relatively new to deck brewing and would like to pull of something creative with her.
Joshua Gomez
its bad because if she dies or is bounced or whatever you cant bring back cards removed prior Just run as much voltron-esque protection and ramp as you can, I suppose. You'll need a preetty casual meta for it to go off.
Landon Russell
Is it possible for me to enjoy any RG or RGx commander if I hate creatures and pic related?
Chase Martinez
>14 mana and an uninterrupted combat step to get to do the thing the card was made to do Fuck, it hurts how bad this is.