EDH/Commander General /edhg/

Anything in particular?

>What are you most hyped for in RIX so far?
Etali and Ghalta for sure, they are great for my casual Animar.
>Most disappointed by?
Tetzimoc, Black has never gotten the short end of the stick on a cycle THIS hard. I am mad.

GIVE SAMURAI TRIBAL SUPPORT!

>What are you most hyped for in RIX so far?
Cerberus dino is the most exciting timmy card ive seen in ages

>Tetzimoc, Black has never gotten the short end of the stick on a cycle THIS hard. I am mad.
10/10 flavor though!

A-user that wasn't the question

Sure the flavor is cool but he is easily the worst elder dino by FAR

Pirates looked more like disney pirates than ugly plunderers of the sea.
Vampires didn't make any sense in the set, and half of the vampire knights weren't even mounted on anything, they could have been warriors.
Dinosaurs aren't going to be printed in a long time, so having so much support for it is basically a parasitism in typing form.
Merfolks are mostly fine.
Jace is going to get away even though fucking Azor was behind it all.

i cant even see it being all that good in draft desu

I just want more samurai in magic so I can use this: youtube.com/watch?v=bWcjYm-tjBE

nvm i needed to re-read the card idk why i though his ability was just forcast
still thats 6+xb to kill x creatures

>Black elder dino is the worst
At least he has some use. White is just a keyword salad garbage that costs fucking 8.

>White is just a keyword salad garbage that costs fucking 8
yo

>tfw you play against newly built decks using commanders without eminence
>only have a modified Vampiric Bloodlust deck
>"oh cool. i'll try Mathas, Fiend Seeker this game"
>get Edgar and lightning greaves in my opening hand

I didn't want to just rape them with Edgar but apparently thats what the deck wanted. Feels kind of bad slamming someone for 140+ damage in their first commander game.

Tetsuo is the best call, thanks to the books he has the most actual character not reflected in his card.

Dakkon Blackblade is my second choice, thanks the the Armada Comics. Probably color shifted to where he'd live in the modern pie both mechanically and as a character; we finally get a great Jund Lands Matter commander.

The Elder Dragons (All of them) could stand to be refreshed but their current existence is part of their charm. However, out of all of them, Chromium really ought to be more than he is. I choose him on the condition that his new cardname be either Chromium Rhuell or "Rhuell, Chromium Dragon" for once and all laying to rest the "Is he Chromium or isn't he?" debate (thanks to being in the 'updated legends character' slot with his comic book name)

Johan is next, but only because Hazezon is perfect as-is. OK, maybe not perfect, but he needs a new version less.

Aaaaaand, there's not really a GOOD call for Bant (to satisfy my autism at having the "new set" be all shards) or to shift TO bant so I'll say Angus Mackenzie with only a very slight rebalancing to skirt the reserved list. Just slap Hexproof on him and shake up his stats and call it a day. Or maybe not Hexproof, he was BTFOd by Lady Orca after all.

Yes, he's fairly legit in that one commander nobody plays, if you can actually get him out in monowhite despite costing 8.

Really, White Elder has more value as a reanimation target, except in EDH if you're reanimating a beater rather than an instant-win (or near instant win) like Iona, Avacyn 1.0, or Jin "The Chin" Gitaxias, you're doing it wrong.

You can use his ability up to 5x on your turn 5 to make your opponents attack with all his creatures, and give you combat upperhand. On the next turn, destroy everything else that survived, or you can just keep your opponent on his toes by using his ability again.

Aside from double strike and indestructible, the rest are kinda meh or easy to get, so Odric has much better options than White dino. What would you take out to make place for the dino?

>most hyped
The Enrage mechanic, which looks SO much more fun in RIX than it was in XLN

>most disappointed
Pic related, it's 2018 and we can't get fucking Rampant Growth in Standard.

This. White has much better reanimation target than a keyword salad garbage. Not only Iona, or Avacyn, but also Elesh, or even Angel of Serenity are better options.

>At least he has some use
No he really doesn't.

>What would you take out to make place for the dino?
what are my options?

Any of the Vanilla legends. Or Vaevictus Asmadi.

If the black dino takes out at least 1 creature with his ability he already did something. As opposed to white dino that costs 2 more mana than black dino, and still have to wait for a turn because "no haste", so he can attack and maybe deal 8 damage, because he has low power to compensate for his double strike.

>You let it die
Why is this general so goddamn lazy about making new threads

Where does this see play in non-tribal lists? Titania and Gitrog seem obvious.

>someone posted music in /edh/
WHAT TIME IS IT?!
Post your deck's fucking theme song.
Kess Storm:
>youtube.com/watch?v=WWvt3E5a-AA

White is great in Gishath, or great with Odric or Cairn Wanderer. Which while limited, is something. Meanwhile NO deck appreciates black unironically. Name one fucking deck that genuinely would use him.

Go on EDHREC and take out something from there.

PLEZ Jasmine Boreal

definitely not because she was my first magic waifu and I'd love to have a playable EDH version of her... nope not that.

Angry Omnath

ANGUS

Trapjaw Regisaur (W)
Timestream Navigator (U)
Twilight Prophet (B)
Rekindling Phoenix (R)
Polyraptor (G)
Azor, the Lawbringer (WU)
Angrath, the Flame-Chained (BR)
Huatli, Radiant Champion (GW)
Elenda, the Dusk Rose (WB)
Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca (GU)
Zacama, Primal Calamity (RGW)
Azor's Gateway/Sanctum of the Sun (C)
The Immortal Sun (C)

Thirteen Mythics. What are the other two?

>Post your deck's fucking theme song.
o fucc
youtube.com/watch?v=HjEuPMun_Cw

Norin may not seem metal, but one he hits the battlefield everybody soon understands the true meaning of "The Winds of Mayhem"

Any black deck that generates a shitton of mana can easily use it to be a one-sided boardwipe. And you don't need to use it all on the same turn, any black mana that you didn't use can use to fuel it until you drop it.

It's not the best card ever, but is not worst than just a big creature that costs a lot.

Horobi. His ability with the black dino is repeated, near uninteractable, removal

She's a qt user, shame about the card though.
That was a really cool and in depth response I wasn't expecting. Good on you user.

R and Dimir

Damn I forgot my pic

There's gotta be a Legendary Pirate still.

>HD Jasmine art
th-thanks user

Rainbow In The Dark. I can't see shit but I know there's color shenanigans going on out there.

youtu.be/qcWKZTI9OC4

Easiest fucking question I have ever heard.

this would be a lot easier with a list not going off edh rec which churns out bare bones good stuff decks full of staples

My playgroup enacted a "No Priority" house rule. We allow instant-speed abilities and spells to be cast at any time, regardless of priority. We theorized that getting rid of priority rulings would reduce the effectiveness of counterspells vs more interactive targeted kill spells and spot removal, and thus would create a meta that would be more interactive.

We were right. Our meta has evolved and counterspells are seen less and less. It's an amazing thing that I think you guys would do well to try it.

How's priority work again? I know about it but it rarely comes up in my casual group.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=VX3dXiS3mtw

Seems like we're getting metal up in here.

This is my Neheb deck's themesong. Why? Because I'm going to combo off t3, the second I get Neheb on the field.

youtube.com/watch?v=UPhvwPMZLp4

Basically if someone casts an enchantment that is super strong, and no one has a counterspell, it resolves and no one has the ability to interact with it until the player whose turn it is either casts something else, activates something, or passes to the next phase.

In other words, if someone casts grave betrayal and it's clear that they're going to do some shenanigans with it, but you don't have a counterspell. In your situation, I'd assume you'd just cast your Return to Dust or whatever immediately upon it's resolve, but that's actually illegal. You have to wait until you have priority, which is only while something is on the stack or a phase is being ended.

I assume they mean situations where you'd hold priority specifically, like immediately after a Planeswalker resolves. You always get to activate your Planeswalker at least once, assuming nothing triggered when it entered the battlefield, because you'll have priority. Otherwise someone could shoot it with a damage spell or something like Beast Within.

Because of that, counterspelling a Planeswalker is more effective than killing it with a Bolt, especially since it'll be harder to kill with a Bolt if they used the +.

Akroma, Angel of Wrath
50% of 515 decks

How would that ever actually matter with something like Grave Betrayal? Outside of something with Split Second, you can always just kill Grave Betrayal before whatever else they choose to do resolves.

post neheb list please

>TQ:
Tilonalli's Summoner, Wayward Swordtooth (Angry Omnath).

Dusk Legion Zealot, Forerunner of the Legion, Legion Lieutenant, Champion of Twilight, Twilight Prophet, The Immortal Sun. (Edgar).

Pirates are the most dissapointing tribe. Merfolk are just simic_play_alone.dec and dinos are ok.

So this is how priority works
>playgroup never uses it anyways.
>you can always answer something if you got an answer so instant speed.

Well good to know. So does this mean that technically someone can't doom blade a creature after I've cast it? I'd assume they can once I move to combat or something right? But if we're still pre-combat then I'd be guaranteed at least one activation of an activated ability before a doom blade could kill it?

>But if we're still pre-combat then I'd be guaranteed at least one activation of an activated ability before a doom blade could kill it?
If the creature has haste, yes. They could cast Blade in response to you activating, but not before. You have priority.

>letting people steal my secret tech that easily
Ha, it is to laugh.

But seriously, it's piss easy to build. Slap every fucking mana rock you can, the second you hit 2 red and 3 colourless the trick involves finding ways to get Mana Crypt out really early, or tutoring expensive lands like Ancient tomb you throw out a hasty Neheb, try to chain as many combat phases as possible, and laugh while you immolate the table in a giant fireball.

If your playgroup allows a sideboard, it's even easier because you can use burning wish to find Comet Storm. Otherwise, I do something like SDT into Reforge the Soul, or popping memory jar and recurring it with darietti/junk diver/whatever artifact recursion you can find.

You can hold priority after putting something on the stack and put something else on the stack after it. Because of this, if you were to resolve Grave Pact, which I'm assuming meant instead of Grave Betrayal, you could, say, sacrifice your entire board to Viscera Seer before someone with enchantment removal has the opportunity to kill Grave Pact.

Of course, it feel like a moot point, since you could sacrifice your entire board in response to the enchantment removal too.

Planeswalkers are pretty much the only immediately relevant situation I can think of where this really matters.

>Of course, it feel like a moot point, since you could sacrifice your entire board in response to the enchantment removal too.

I guess it makes Krosan Grip slightly more valuable, but that's about it.

Also, if you play in a real meta, run Blood Moon. And Magus of the Moon. And whatever that new Blood Sun thing is the second you can.

These effects are underrated, and if you put out a blood moon against someone running 3+ colours, you have an 85% chance they'll scoop the second you drop it. If you drop it t1, you have a 100% chance that everyone non-red or non-basics will scoop. I wish there was a good artifact Izzet commander because I'd love to run Trinket Mage/Tinker/Blue Tezz as part of my brew, but no one expects a monored deck to do anything in a competitive meta, so it's pretty fantastic.

Also, Stranglehold.

>Planeswalkers are pretty much the only immediately relevant situation I can think of where this really matters.
Actually, scratch that. It basically interrupts situations where the active player would want to do something that could only be done as a Sorcery. So, Loyalty abilities, abilities with sorcery timing restrictions, and noninstant spells without flash.

I guess you could kill maybe Argothian Enchantress before they get to cast an Enchantment spell. Something like that.

Hey friends!

So, I wasn't around for Shadow Over Innistrad and just went back and looked at all the legends and now I really want to make an Olivia, Mobilized for War deck.

I've never run an aggro EDH setup before, and it seems like it could be fun, but lord knows I've played enough EDH to know what happens to fast decks. They run outta steam after one or two board wipes.

Anybody got some ideas to help me prevent that? AKA cards that may help me keep a-chuggin' even after I get blown the fuck out?

Other than that, I already have a few things planned.

So what, you just have a "whoever shouts fastest" rule in place? If I drop my planeswalker and then as quickly as possible say "+1elspethmakeatoken" did you guys lose your opportunity to blow her up before I did that?

That seems stupid as hell, sounds like there would also be a problem with split second spells as well.

So did your playgroup devolve into shitflinging and trying to shout the fastest over everyone else? Or did you come up with some method where everyone goes in order to say what they are going to do, if they are going to do anything at all (which is exactly what priority is you fucking chucklefuck)

>Or did you come up with some method where everyone goes in order to say what they are going to do
>they replaced Priority with literally just another version of Priority
now that would be priceless.

youtube.com/watch?v=w7wnyDBr-9M

magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/rivals-of-ixalan

FULL SPOILER
GO GO GO

>Favorite deck is Kruphix, does everything I want
>slam fatties, always have counterspells to back up said fatties, no mana ever goes to waste
>deck is triple the price of any of my other decks because I love it so much
>It's so oppressive that the only players in my group who don't immediately try to hate me out of the game while I'm playing it are the Riku guy & the Zur doomsday guy
>already had one person tell me they refuse to play against it
I'm thinking of converting it to pick related to make it slightly more casual. My original thinking when building Kruphix was that I could bank mana so the next turn I could cast them with counterspells to protect them, but with Surrak I wouldn't really need to worry about that.
Is this a good idea? What other goodies do I get by expanding into red?

Cute toy for a token deck.

>Slaughter the Strong
OH
YEEEEE BOI

Will this+Aether Flash go infinite?

I ran xenagod and balefire Dragon was an allstar. You also get neheb, which gets you a ton of mana, atarkas, that new red dinosaur, xenagod himself, and cards that get you additional combats. Pretty sweet d00d
Or, if you're still generating tons of mana you also get fireballs

Cant wait to throw this in my wip marath deck. Oh yes, I would love to pay 1 for a 5/5.

With the right set up (warstorm surge and at least one token doubler), you could be paying 1 to spawn 2 1/1s and spawn 4 5/5, and have 20 damage floating.

Man this card gets real silly fast.

Greed, Erebos, necropotence let you fill your hand at the expense of life.

it's shit but man i love this artwork

So does this mean if you cast your commander, you could theoretically get a free equip before someone can respond with a kill spell?

Strangely, that's it. Only thirteen Mythics in this set. Weird.

I was so torn on what commander deck I wanted to build but after seeing this spoiler I don't give a fuck anymore, I'm 100% building Marath. I don't give a fuck if he's the most popular Naya commander he works so well with enrage Dinos!!

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shit more cool art

>good art
>shit card
every time

Check the Hunt the Weak reprint. That's some fantastic art. As much as the "style" is pretty bland and uninteresting, they've really stepped up their conceptual design this time around.

Seb is the man, yo.

>Seb McKinnon
There's your answer. Everything he touches is gold, and wizards hates him, so they put it on bullshit cards.

It's like RKF. Every single RKF card has fantastic art.

You can go to equip, but the equip has to resolve before it will actually be on it.

REALLY WIZARDS

Okay makes sense, thanks

Colossal Dreadmaw too

I would say they've gotten lazy, but I'm sure everybody already knows that by now.

uuug, guys?

Neat. I want to play this in a Soul Sister's deck.