Bright is a shit movie

I just recently listend to The Flop Houses episode on Bright, and realised just how shit it is.

Why was it so popular on this board for a short time? The setting would simply not work, is uninspiring and boring, and the movie itself was utter shit

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It was somewhat enjoyable as an entry for a new series.

If you were actually paying attention to the stupid fucking threads, you would know it wasn't popular as a movie, only interesting as a setting, and only for worldbuilding purposes. But, being the stupid fucktard you are, you wouldn't have bothered lookign in those threads yourself and instead are advertising your ignorance and lack of respect for this board by making it into /tv/. Further, Veeky Forums doesn't conform to critics commentaries, and listening to critics discuss a movie isn't something Veeky Forums does because we are perfectly capable of forming our own options without other people's help.

People here like Shadowrun, so ended up liking discount Shadowrun by extension.

Yes, but the setting is also utter trash, unimaginative and stupid

>Wow, fantasy races in the real world and magic!
Yet technology is not changed, actual racism has apparently not changed, and all orcs are black people now for some reason, who knows what happened to actual black people

also fuck fairies for some reason

It was an enjoyable cop movie that didn’t really break any new ground in the genre aside from the fantasy stuff giving it a nice aesthetic. The critics panning this movie seem to be talking about it like they expected it to be something more than that and I have no fucking clue why they would think that.

It's aight. A bit of fantasy in mainstream cinema is never a bad thing. It won't win an Oscar but it did the job. Looking forward to seeing the sequel to see if they learn from the experience.

Everything about it was generic, sure. But it's just nice to see something like this made, this doesn't happen very often. No one's praising it for its quality, good writing or acting.

>Why was it so popular on this board for a short time?

A few people were trying to drum up interest, because they're the kind of people who think that if this movie succeeds, it opens up the door for more fantasy films to succeed.

Rather, it just means that mediocre fantasy films like this one get more exposure, and more people associate fantasy with low quality.

> But it's just nice to see something like this made

It would have been nice if it was actually good.

You can't just give it points for nodding at nerds, because that's exactly what they were hoping for.

It's a buddy cop movie with funky fresh fantasy aesthetic. Anyone who expected it to be a deep movie with a well thought out setting was a retard, including the critics you got your opinion from.

I did think it was an entertaining buddy cop film, though.

There is no worldbuilding in Bright. The existence of magic and fantasy races has not changed Earth's history, economy, or culture even a little bit. Even the film Shrek still exists in Bright.

>No one's praising it for its quality, good writing or actin


Oh yeah, amazing writing and acting

>fairy lives matter

>Yet technology is not changed

Why should it?

>actual racism has apparently not changed

Yes it did

>who knows what happened to actual black people

Nothing, no one gives a fuck but you

>also fuck fairies for some reason

So you conveniently missed the part in which they are psychotic winged imps in this setting

I enjoyed it, found it fun.

Literally /pol/. Seems like the love threads are just reposting the same stupid graffiti pics and asking why "(((they)))" are so scared of this film and trying to bury it.
The movie sucked and was badly done, simple as that. Viewers have lower standards.

Typical fantasy movies are too heavily loaded with alternative info to understand for most audiences. You don't really make movies for fans per se, because movies are usually moneymaking ventures. Making a movie for fans of an established setting outside of one that is imminently lucrative like Harry Potter, LotR, etc just isn't effective.

Spergs who don't understand that economics > art in terms of sustainability will therefore shit on Bright. It's not a completely different world with completely different rules and technology in part because few people have the time or energy to learn all that shit.

>all orcs are black people now for some reason, who knows what happened to actual black people
There were black people in the movie. They were probably written to provide some contrast with the star. The orcs were orcs.

Critics panned it because they were expecting the dialogue to not be some of the cringiest shit-tier writing in any film of the last year, I imagine.

Hey now, the complaints I read said orcs were coded for mexicans. The one dude came from Miami and they can't into basketball.

Woudln't /pol/ hate it? It encourages loving other races

Or is it because of the elf / jew analogue

>if you listen to criticism of something you are a stupid fucking idiot who can't form your own opinions
Whatever you say, man.
(((They))) panned it because it was a structural and technical mess. Viewers don't really care about this shit and are more concerned with whether or not they were entertained.
Transformers is a good example. People found them entertaining but there's a damn good case to be made that those movies were shit.
Tl;dr it's not a Jewish conspiracy, this movie had issues.

Agreed. It was serviceable enough. If I wanted a fantastic plot that hammers the viewer on the anvil of social commentary I'd re-watch Alien Nation. I was perfectly fine with them giving social commentary only a nudge and a wink but otherwise not trying to drag us through a heavy-handed parable. It just wanted to be fun, it didn't want to be a goddamn debate. Seems to be why critics hate it but the general audience enjoyed themselves.

You would think so, but /pol/'s opinions seem to be strictly contrarian and will twist anything to suit their sensibilities.
Literally saw someone last night arguing that the Jews are scared because the movie promotes racial harmony and that weakens their grip because their grand scheme is to divide everyone... Though /pol/ also argues you should hate and never mix with any other races because that's a Jewish attempt to weaken the white race.
It only makes sense if you look at them as contrarians.

It was typical cop movie dialogue with orcs and elves and other fantasy shit thrown in. It sounded goofy at times but that’s part of why it was fun.

>The critics panning this movie seem to be talking about it like they expected it to be something more than that and I have no fucking clue why they would think that.

It was the flagship for Netfix going 'We can do blockbuster movies too!'. Generally you put your best foot forward with that.

This is what I got from it. Most of the orcs in Bright played off of Mexican gangbanger stereotypes way more than anything else. People just have their heads stuck in the orcs=black people meme.

Daily Stormer’s playbook leaked a month or two ago and one of the key points in it was to blame Jews for literally everything because it’s easier to recruit when the people reading their shit are given a single monolithic entity to believe is the source of all of their problems. It’s not hard to believe a movement that runs on that mentality would start getting inconsistent.

And with heavy metal love songs. I don't think they were meant to be any one thing but more a kind of hodgepodge. Some elements because they're cliche, some to play into how orcs would most likely be seen in such a setting, and some just for lulz.

It's not bad, Veeky Forums just likes to hate things to feel smart

The movie is just kind of bland and forgettable, with a few interesting ideas here and there. It's the definative 6/10 movie

>It was typical cop movie dialogue

80's B-movie cop movies, sure.

Yeah, the best kind of cop movies, what’s the problem?

It's a bad movie but a very enjoyable one IMO. It has a lot of likeable parts, even if the entire thing wasn't exactly polished. The archetype of a film that would draw a cult fanbase.

>widely panned movie
>barely explained setting
>still better history than Shadowrun

^pretty much this. I don't understand why people can't allow for ground between greatest movie of all time and utter shit. I was entertained, so I'll call that block checked.

Link? Sounds like a fun read.

It was good and you have bad taste.

It wasn't great, it wasn't revolutionary, but it was fun and competent. And that's all it needed to be.

>it was good
did you even listen to the flophouse

You act like tg has high standards when really tg is probably one of the least informed when it comes to its subject or at least RPGs

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>all orcs are black people

It's a bad action movie.

I enjoy bad action movies. So do a lot of people.

pretty much this

also 80's cop B-movie

Well that's...interesting. At least they've thought about how best to spread their message of hatred and bile. I guess?

That LITERALLY seems to be what the film-makers were going for, ye olde cop movies that were popular and endemic starting almost 40 years ago.

/pol/ found it fun but thought it was shit. Don't put words in our mouths.

Or they just don't want to mix races and want to coexist peacefully with other races within strict mono-ethnic societies. Try to get a little creative with your world building, mate.

it wasn't amazing
it was okay
loved the gun porn
fuck you

This is also why Who Killed Captain Alex is probably Ugandan cinema's biggest overseas hit.

this

Bright was shit. For me, it's just weird how savagely it got torn a new asshole by critics considering it's the same garden-variety, blockbuster-style shit that comes out every year to middling reviews with words like 'spectacle' and 'enjoyable mindless entertainment'.

Something was off about how every outlet seemed to line up to shit on it.

>implying that popularity is over
>"Why do people have other opinions than the one I got from someone else that is objectively correct?"

>Don't put words in our mouths.

There's no room anyway, too busy doing as Steve Bannon does. If sucking my own dick is alt wrong, I don't want to be alt right.

What was that 80s movie that had space orks living in Los Angeles slums? It was the same story, reluctant human cop with an eager orc partner.

...

I didn't think it was good but I enjoyed the two cops and the Shadowrun-knockoff world. It wasn't bad enough to earn all the media hate it got, even if it was an inferior Alien Nation.
>Flop House
I don't get how people listen to this, I'm pretty far from /pol/ but they just try to force humor so hard and I don't find them informative either so I just don't get the appeal.

>Self-Defence and love for one's Race
fix'd that for you F A M

>I listened to some kike podcast and it changed how I felt about a film

What if, instead of letting (((reviewers))) tell you what to think, you formed your own opinions?

I read a good number of those threads, and in the ones I saw had no discussion about world building or game mechanics, so what you said is rather amusing. When I brought up said lack of relevant discussion to those people, which I did numerous times, I was met with hostility and told not to "inject my idea of what Veeky Forums is supposed to be," even though this is literally a board about discussing various tabletops and board/card games. They were just discussing the movie itself and what the critics were saying about it. I reiterate: no actual discussion of world building, mechanics, or Veeky Forums relevant material was going on.
So who's ignorant and making this board into /tv/? It's pretty clear that all these threads about movies under a thin claim of "discussion" is the cause. Yeah, there's potential for relevant discussion, but there's no ACTUAL FUCKING RELEVANT DISCUSSION going on.
It's time to stop defending /a/ Veeky Forums /pol/ /tv/ threads as being Veeky Forums related, when there have been many occasions where actual Veeky Forums related material was either moved or deleted.
If everyone lacks the common-sense and observation skills to see this themselves, I seriously feel bad for them.

They're polaks

To all the people ITT that say they enjoyed the movie despite its flaws or despite it being bad: What the fuck was there to be enjoying in it? The plot was nothing but reused scenes from other movies. The action was boring. The dialogue was poor. The acting horrible. There was no world building to speak of. There's not a single quality in this movie that can be enjoyed.

>tfw we got Buddy Cop shlock instead of Magic Hunting Fed-kino

Unironically this. The movie would have been 5x as interesting if they made it magical men in Black instead of training day but with orcs

I was ok. They kinda just said a whole lot of shit and did nothing with it. They could do a whole lot more with the sequel now, but I'm sure we'll just get Fantasy Cop Drama 2 which is a shame. There was a whole lot of random lore dumps or mentions sprinkled about, I'd rather them expand on some of that and focus on the Magic Task Force teaming up with Ward and Nick to fuck up the Inferni. Like some sorta modern fellowship.

The writing was pretty dumb, but...
I actually thought the acting was pretty good. They actually nailed the delivery on some terrible lines.

Either that or keep the focus small and make it all about 'Being a cop in this setting' rather than sudden metaplot bullshit.

Eh, I can understand where the critics come from AND the audience. From a critical analysis perspective? Yeah, it was a shit movie. It was also a petty enjoyable one so I can understand why audiences generally were positive. The two not lining up doesn't make either of them wrong, it just shows the differences in what each group is looking for.

I like the concept of this open modern fantasy and the execution of it, I appreciated that they focused on events instead of dumping exposition, I enjoyed Jakoby, I'm interested in the history of the world and the other races (something admittedly not inherent to the movie but from the charts and the History of Magic video), I liked the Inferni, I liked that Hollywood obviously shit a brick over Netflix trying to muscle in on their market, I liked the action, and I don't watch a lot of movies and I'm not from /tv/ so I'm not some hypercritical, fart-sniffing contrarian.

Maybe the movie sucks, maybe I have shitty taste, but I enjoyed it even though I recognize the flaws. Just like I enjoy salty autists futilely trying to convince me that my opinions are wrong.

>mfw I enjoyed the movie and nothing posted on Veeky Forums so far has changed my mind

>Why was it so popular on this board for a short time?
Because it's a show in a very underrepresented setting, and apparently not so niche. The shocker here is that the general populace, at least the loud ones who leave reviews for things they like, didn't balk at "just what the fuck is an orc"? It's been.... what? 17 years since Lord of the Rings made it to the big screen? That and Harry Potter were popular. Geek culture has been assimilated by the masses. I know of no greater victory than when the marginalized have their culture become the norm. That's fucking fantastic.

Or at least enough people were ok with orcs and elves being blatant stand-ins for race.

And it was popular here, specifically, because everyone wanted it to be Shadowrun, the Movie. But it's not cyberpunk, it's just urban fantasy. Which is like half way there.
>Is it a shit movie though?

...Yeah, yeah it really is. I wanted to like it. I REALLY wanted to like it. I had low expectations and expected a dud. And sadly I wasn't disappointed.

Urban Fantasy. Man, it's like Space Cowboys. A not-so-small subset of people LOVE this stuff. But the writing in Bright was terrible. The ending is... just SO predictable. And it's completely played straight. No subversion or twists or... anything interesting. Bitch dropped the wand, blessed one-in-a-million human Bright picks it up and nukes her. . . . That sort of forced narrative treats the audience like an idiot. It's insulting. "It's impossible for anyone to have the super-rare ultra-power technice... WHAT! He has the super-rare ultra-powerful technique! I am amazed, and by proxy, you the viewers should also be amazed, so be amazed with me."

They could have at LEAST made it the Orc. You know, the resurrected one.

Why the fuck did they have to run and gun from the gangers in the dance-hall as well as the titty-bar? It's the exact same scene.

The elf-girl was practically invisible baggage they carried around JUST for the purposes of resurrecting the orc. ...and that didn't even matter, plot-wise. The entire point of that was.... The orcs let them go?

WHY THE FUCK did the orcs let them go? They're in an orc church or something? The fucking orc messiah comes back from the dead and they literally worship him and..... just let him leave? Nothing like... hey, let's help? Nope, all the scenes just end with Buddy cops on run with girl. It was like a freaking filler episode.

And maybe this is just me, but I don't even understand why they would deny the existence of a want to the feds. I don't see the motive.

It's a raunchy action flick. If you're ok with black people being orcs, it's some mindless action entertainment.

>Even the film Shrek still exists in Bright.
. . . hmmm, that's probably a very different movie in Bright's world. Or maybe not, it's just live-action.

you seem like the sort of person who watches movies while being on your phone the whole time

>elf girl invisible baggage
She provided key insights into the doomsday cult and crazy magic shit, and a good reason for the bad guy to not just blast the two cops as soon as she saw them

>WHY THE FUCK did the orcs let them go?
Orcs let them go because his resurrection was prophesied and they pay attention to that shit since they've got a shaman on hand. They mention prophesies quite a bit throughout the movie and they make a big point of them being in the starring role

>why they would deny the existence of a want to the feds
Will Smith was letting the Feds know that him and his partner are happy to play along with whatever coverup story they wanted. The Feds didn't want word of a doomsday cult with wands running around, and he knew it.
If you're referring to earlier in the movie when he met his mexican friend, it's because he didn't know who was corrupt. He had to kill four people he thought were trustworthy like an hour beforehand

I can't find it, but they actually put out some graphs for the movie breaking down fantasy race demographics, and also naming the nine races that only get mentioned to exist in the actual film. ONE OF THEM IS OGRES.

That means that the movie Shrek still exists in a world where Ogres are real people. As far as we know, they don't even have the weird tube-ears and they aren't even green, but we know Shrek still is because Will Smith compared an orc to him.

Found it on a Twitter account.

>She provided key insights into the doomsday cult
I did forget she was an exposition engine for that. But fuck you I paid attention during the movie.

>and crazy magic shit,
The orc and the feds did a fine job of that.

> and a good reason for the bad guy to not just blast the two cops as soon as she saw them.
hmm? They DID try to just kill them. In the store. They enter the scene and it's rumble-time. Just because they also say something like "get the girl" doesn't mean she's.... laying down magical cover-fire or something. Or, ideally, declaring an on-going counter-spell effort with herself and the two cops as targts. . But, of course, there's zero magic without the wand.


>Orcs let them go because his resurrection was prophesied and they pay attention to that shit since they've got a shaman on hand

Uh huh. So let's say you've got one of those highly religious mexican cartel bosses. Worries about his soul, gives money to the church, but still runs drugs. You know the shtick.

You're telling me that if JESUS FUCKING CHRIST HIMSELF kick-started the 2nd coming in the middle of this guy's hood.... he wouldn't.... oh I dunno.... FOLLOW HIM WHEN HE LEAVES THE BUILDING!?

>Madre de dios! Wow, you're literally jesus coming back from the dead. Hey, you know that thing with executing you? Real mad-sorry about that. It was business. Oh yeah, you're free to go. No worries. Hey! crazy idea, how about we help you with that whole "rapture" thing? Maybe we could tag along? Not to be blatently trying to get in your... uhm.... good graces or nothing I'm just saying we could help.

Is this the thread where we state our opinions as facts?

Ok, religious beliefs have no role in a scientific community.

>Will Smith was letting the Feds know that him and his partner are happy to play along with whatever coverup story they wanted

ok. ...But is that what the Feds wanted? Playing along... you still need to know what fucking game is being played. You want to show them playing along? easy:

>JAKOBY! Shut Up! Uh, as I was saying, some details of last night are a little fuzzy. You know... head injury and all.... maybe you could help me out....? (cue typical will smith unsure fence sitting expression he does a lot)
>Elf: There was. No. Wand.
>I can unequivicobly say that there was no wand. ...Jakoby.
>No wand sir.

I mean, they ham-fisted every other plot-point. I don't see why they assume we can infer the fed has a desire to cover it all up.

I dunno, it could be the Bright equivalent of Song of the South.

>

>And it's completely played straight. No subversion or twists or... anything interesting.

After having seen The Last Jedi, I never want to see subversion in a film again. Playing shit like this straight is completely fine. Gandalf is supposed to save the day at Helm's Deep. Dread is supposed to execute Mama at the top of Peach Trees. Loki is supposed to lose in New York. There is literally nothing wrong with this. Subversion for subversion's sake is a fucking cancer on modern cinema.

>The elf-girl was practically invisible baggage they carried around JUST for the purposes of resurrecting the orc

No, they carried her around because she was their one living link to the magic wand, you know, the super-weapon that grants wishes? Plus what were they going to do, just dump her somewhere?

>WHY THE FUCK did the orcs let them go?

Because the Shaman there said the prophesy had been fulfilled. Plus if you'd just shot a guy and he suddenly rises up again glowing and completely healed, you might have a change of heart about shooting him again. Even if you didn't, the fact that there's a magic user in the room would definitely make you think twice.

>That sort of forced narrative treats the audience like an idiot.

No, it rewards the audience for earlier hints. This is basic film-making 101; you drop hints for the audience early on and have the payoff later. The audience is left feeling satisfied. In Raiders of the Lost Ark there's hints about the Ark's power early on, but Indy is the only one who respects it, so when the Nazis open it, they get destroyed, but Indy survives. The audience likes this payoff to earlier hints. Similarly in Bright, the hobo hints that Will Smith is blessed and also drops the hint about 1 in a million humans being Brights. The orc cop even drops the line later about them being in a prophesy. The audience likes that because it's a payoff to earlier reveals.

>The ending is... just SO predictable. And it's completely played straight.
Fuck off. Having the cop wizard chosen one go "Nah, fuck that" at the END of his hero's journey in the movie is not the norm in the mainstream.

Piss off Ogre, I'm just whistling All Star. Not a fan of Smashmouth?

They are clearly the fucking walrus-people, you imbecile.

>he wouldn't.... oh I dunno.... FOLLOW HIM WHEN HE LEAVES THE BUILDING!?

The Orcs do follow them. They're there at the final showdown when the cops emerge from the burning building.

>But is that what the Feds wanted?

Obviously yes because the Feds let them go and arranged for them to be heroes instead of going on trial for killing cops.

>I don't see the motive.
It was a tongue-in-cheek "We aren't going to talk about the magic and we'll go with whatever cover story you cook up," thing.

Plus hot evil elf. What's not to like about That?

>WHY THE FUCK did the orcs let them go? They're in an orc church or something? The fucking orc messiah comes back from the dead and they literally worship him and..... just let him leave?
Stop looking for things to get pissy about.

>Orcs kill an orc
>Oh shit he's an orc messiah
>Oh thank god, he just wants to leave
>Shut the fuck up, let him leave and don't bother him in case warrior race jesus remembers that whole 'killing' episode

Do you not have your own opinions or are you just afraid to go against the grain of the talking heads who’s opinions shape you?

I wonder if all elves have the weird blue eyes and slightly pointed upper teeth, or if that was just an Inferni thing. All the elves in Elftown were wearing sunglasses and never smiled.

>No, it rewards the audience for earlier hints
When it's about as subtle as the movie shouting
>HEY HEY! AUDIENCE! LISTEN! SEE THAT GUY! THAT MAIN CHARACTER! YEAH! HE'S TOTALLY SPECIAL! HE'S PROBABLY GOT SOME SPECIAL POWER OR SOMETHING! I'M NOT SAYING HE'S A BRIGHT OR ANYTHING BUT HE'S PROBABLY A BRIGHT Y'KNOW!
in your face, I'm pretty sure you can't call them hints anymore nor claim that the audience is supposed to feel clever for figuring it out.

Only the ending was terrible. Otherwise it was a pretty good down and dirty action cop-buddy movie.

"Critics" were probably just upset it didn't talk about how orcs didn't deserve to suffer like they did and how wypipo oppress orcbois.

Yeah mostly, and yes, Brezzik are lizardman. In the intro, you can see this sign and I thought it was "Danger, kobolds crossing".

>hot
Egh. All of the elves in this movie had fetal alcohol syndrome faces.

And that's a good thing. They're supposed to be alien to humans, not fucking wankbait.

It's not about feeling clever. It's about feeling satisfied that the film is following BASIC FUCKING NARRATIVE STRUCTURE.

Audience scores for Bright are high and through the fucking floor for The Last Jedi, which goes out of it's way to subvert every expectation the movie presents the audience with. That's pretty fucking conclusive that audiences like movies fulfilling their expectations.

Panahu are bug things and Brezzik are lizardmen. There are a bunch of info cards the dev team made that describes the races and what they do.

>when stupid progressives make the city put up signs with other races as the silhouettes for muh representation
Ugh.

Why do you bring up The Last Jedi as if that's a movie I like? You fucking mong.

Where does it say that Panahu are bug things? Not all of these info cards have been released, to my knowledge.

>when stupid conservatives use street signs to imply that certain races have a lower IQ and are more liable to walk into traffic
What other ways could we spin this?