Biggest asspulls you've ever seen a DM pull?

Yes, which is why I said 30 seconds - I was presuming she exhaled (Thank you, Titan AE). Many people can hold their breath for about a minute or so; my personal record (when I was a much healthier person) was about three and a half minutes, and I believe Navy SEALS (and presumably similar teams in other countries) are required to manage 5 minutes, though I could be remembering that wrong.

Obviously this decreases the more activity you perform while holding your breath as you burn up oxygen; I've heard it said that you really only have about 15 seconds of "useful" consciousness in vacuum.

Still, Leia isn't a typical person and Star Wars is a fantasy setting. Vader kept himself alive with the Force under much more trying conditions when he lost his fight on Mustaphar and for a much longer period of time, so Leia doing so for about a minute hardly seems impossible, especially since afterwards she isn't exactly in good condition.

It would’ve been nice if she at least mentioned off hand she got some training from Luke or something. As it is, we’re not show that she had any training beforehand.

Which still takes a good amount of time to actually happen. So long as you exhale, you'll last for a short while before passing out from lack of oxygen. If you can't get back to safety soon, you will be dead, but you'll be out cold long before that actually happens.

>A Skywalker has the Force
Well color me surprised.

Why would you need to be told that? She used the Force, so clearly he'd has some kind of instruction or, I don't know, fucking figured it out.

If I might paraphrase Chris Rock in Dogma, the nature of the Force and the Skywalker bloodline, those are important plot points. But believing that Leia would never ask Luke to show her a few tricks or that Luke wouldn't want to train her at least a little given that she IS Force sensitive - that's just gullibility.

>it has been known that Leia had the force since Empire strikes back
>people actually surprised and assblasted she uses it one time in a life or death situation

It's fuck all to do with her speculative strength in the force, it's what an utterly pointless and poorly executed scene it is. It serves no plot purpose, is cringe inducingly awful and makes no sense.

I think the main problem is that the scene just looks dumb.

Aside from Luke's re-connection to the Force and showing both he and Leia still have that same bond they had since Empire, Leia finally commenting on it once Luke stopped cutting himself off?

Seriously though FUCK that Casino Town subplot.

>pointless
The point was to A) take Leia out of commission, B) me with people who assume she'd die, and C) settle whether or not he can actually use the Force

>poorly executed
Yeah, no.

>settle whether or not he can actually use the Force
Within the context of the film, the bigger part is that Leia's still CONNECTED to the Force, while Luke isn't; because of her Force sensitivity, she's the first to notice Luke's connection to the Force return.

The Casino Town stuff could have been cool if we were actually allowed to breath in that world. We get a bit of that when Finn starts fanboying over it. It was an understandable and human reaction from a guy who spent his whole life staring at the insides of a Star Destroyer. But then that gets blown out the window for a lame Fuck Da Rich speech, which in itself is pointless because right after that we learn those snooty rich people were also supplying weapons to the good guys.

Really that's the biggest problem with this movie: it spins its wheels so fucking hard. Despite all the twists and turns going on, by the end it's like nothing actually happened and the characters are all more or less where they were at the beginning. That annoyed me far more than Space Leia or Grumpy Luke.

I didn't hate it like I know Veeky Forums wants me to, but I didn't like it much either. For all people gush over how "subversive" it is, it ends in the most basic bitch way. If this movie were actually subversive then Kylo would've plowed Rey on top of Snoke's corpse and the movie would've ended there.

Grumpy Luke was great. He was the missing Kung Fu master archetype: Obi-wan was the wise know-it-all, Yoda was the crazy hermit, Palpatine was the Evil Guy. We needed the Too Old For This Shit sifu.

>here come to excuses

It took Luke, with some training, considerable concentration to pull his lightsaber to him and he was unable to lift his fighter even after getting more training. We have not seen any indication in the movies that Leia has received any training, let alone Jedi surviving being blown out into space, surviving and supermaning it back.

Not to forget that the scene served no purpose. The missiles damaging the ship and knocking her out would have had the same effect story wise.

I enjoyed grumpy Luke quite a bit. It's also very classic Kung Fu movie to have the student turn up and the first major thing be 'Convince the master you should actually be trained'.

I laughed pretty damn hard at his dispelling her illusions about the force with the plant too. It felt like something Yoda could have easily done back in the jedi temple.

A good filmmaker, when filming a scene that is both ludicrous and incoherent to the lore of previous movies, will introduce the scene by virtue of foreshadowing. A good filmmaker, upon deciding to have Leia uses a high level force power never shown before in the series, when we know Leia has never been trained on-screen, would foreshadow its usage thusly:

>Didn't I tell you? I have been trained by my brother Luke for two years.

A good filmmaker Rian Johnson is not.

A good critic, upon watching the scene with Leia, would laugh openly at its stupidity, and remove one point to the final score. A good critic wouldn't try to justify the unjustifiable. A good critic wouldn't rake its own brain sideway trying to make the incoherent coherent, justify what is laughable, and then bitch on the internet when more rational people still laugh at that scene.

A good critic you are not, user.

Grumpy Luke was hit or miss for me.

He fit the role he needed to perfectly. The Reluctant Master is a great archetype for this kind of movie. Especially since all the stuff with Rey, Luke, and Kylo gave me some great Samurai flick vibes.

But the problem is it just doesn't feel like Luke. We spent the entire OT following this guy as he goes from a tagalong kid to a great hero. And now we get to see him again, and he's just this bitter old man who's waiting to die. It's weird. And his total reluctance to see redemption in Kylo's future feels like it just erased his development at the end of Return of the Jedi. His total devotion to redeeming his father was moving and raw. Now he just writes off his nephew as a hopeless fuckup and peaces out because he figures this rando will kill the kid for him.

It didn't anger me, it was just disappointing. There's a fantastic movie hidden in TLJ but it's swamped by all the baggage. And I don't know if I should blame the director or the Mouse.

>But the problem is it just doesn't feel like Luke. We spent the entire OT following this guy as he goes from a tagalong kid to a great hero. And now we get to see him again, and he's just this bitter old man who's waiting to die. It's weird. And his total reluctance to see redemption in Kylo's future feels like it just erased his development at the end of Return of the Jedi. His total devotion to redeeming his father was moving and raw. Now he just writes off his nephew as a hopeless fuckup and peaces out because he figures this rando will kill the kid for him.

I dunno. I think part of it is 'It doesn't feel like Luke directly after the OT' but at the same time (At least to me) it feels plausible for a Luke after 'Longer than he'd been alive at the end of the OT'. A 30 year timeskip can do a lot to a character.

>The Casino Town stuff could have been cool if we were actually allowed to breath in that world. We get a bit of that when Finn starts fanboying over it. It was an understandable and human reaction from a guy who spent his whole life staring at the insides of a Star Destroyer. But then that gets blown out the window for a lame Fuck Da Rich speech, which in itself is pointless because right after that we learn those snooty rich people were also supplying weapons to the good guys.
See that's my big problem with it. It's like they had this big sidestory built up, but the players kept fumbling their rolls and aimlessly wandering like drooling morons, and the DM kept trying to fix a situation that was going further and further off-rails.

>It took Luke, with some training, considerable concentration to pull his lightsaber to him

I'd like to point out when Empire came out, absolutely no one knew the Force could let you lift things. There's also no reason to believe Luke could know this either, since Obi-wan never told him that.

Luke knew the Force. He gambled on something and it worked.

Leia knew the Force. She gambled on something and it worked.

Same thing really. Though I'll agree it was inelegant and ultimately pointless.

I get the feeling that it was likely setup for more Leia/Rey stuff in Episode 9 (That will never happen due to the death of the actress). Since it leaves one force sensitive person around who Rey can go to with her concerns and questions even if she's not The Luke Skywalker. Having Episode 9 Leia go 'Oh yeah, I know some basic force stuff' might have otherwise felt a bit like an asspull.

>The point was to A) take Leia out of commission

To have the ship get hit and knock her out. No need for an ass pull surprise space flight.

>B) me with people who assume she'd die

It's not much of a twist when you fix it right away and it doesn't lead into anything. Like introducing a brand new threat and dealing with it a minute later with a gadget some character pulled out of their ass.

>C) settle whether or not he can actually use the Force

By pulling never before seen tricks? We've already had two movies showing us she is sensitive. Also, what's the point of showing she can superman it if it's not going to serve the plot? All flash and no substance. Might as well go watch Transformers. Or prequels.

This just reminds me of the RLM review, where Mike says the new Trilogy's banking on Princess Leia as a critical character is like if John Lennon, George Harrison, and Paul McCartney had all been shot and killed that day.

What killed it for me was that lame CGI horse chase. It gave me flashbacks to that speeder chase in Attack of the Clones. That whole escape scene would've been way cooler if they were running through the streets on foot, dodging blaster shots.

Might as well claim Jar Jar is no different from C3PO.

Of course not. Jar Jar does more to advance the plot than 3PO.

Folks, folks, even if its within the inter logic of Star Wars it still look ridiculous. I had to stop myself form laughing.

There was TPK and the DM let us draw cards form a deck, and if its the card choice before we came back. I was the only one that came draw the card. The other also came back at one point. Can't reminder how. Not sure the point of the cards but there was some good emotions there.

>It gave me flashbacks to that speeder chase in Attack of the Clones.
Oh christ now I can't unsee it. Damn you.

What' the fuck's your point with this? Those two are both comic relief characters who serve the same function. But one fails at it and the other doesn't.

My point was there's no real stretch to Leia doing what she did, but multiple other factors made it seem eye-rolling and pointless. It wasn't dumb because Leia used the Force, it was dumb because it was ultimately irrelevant to the plot in the most obvious way. She literally gets blown out the window, then in the next minute flies right back through it. Then she's unconscious for the rest of the movie. All so we could focus on a new character with the personality of cardboard, instead of letting the already established and well-liked character (Poe) have some growth when he's suddenly thrust into leadership.

>ITT: brainlets not smart enough to "get" the intellectual brilliance of The Last Jedi

>This just reminds me of the RLM review, where Mike says the new Trilogy's banking on Princess Leia as a critical character is like if John Lennon, George Harrison, and Paul McCartney had all been shot and killed that day.

Not heard the RLM review, though as far as I can tell they were (Since she was pretty important in both of the ones we've seen as the ongoing original trilogy character) pretty focused on making her a big part of it.

I agree, the film was enjoyable but didn't go anywhere.

All it needed was one redeeming major alteration - and I'm not talking Snoke dying. Something like Rey turning in that scene would have had knock-on effects everywhere else:

>set up for a much darker start to the next film
>Finn's fun side story gets a gut punch as he comes back to find his friendzone buddy "I NEED TO FIND HER" has gone to the other side, and he questions why he spent so much time having this fun little side adventure and grows up a bit
>gets to redeem her next film
>Resistance shown as truly broken as their most idealistic figure gives up on them

I mean I can get the in universe justification for leia supermanning through space, it just looks goofy

>By pulling never before seen tricks?
Wait, moving objects with Force is never before seen trick?

The RLM review's pretty solid. If you're expecting vitriol and anger then you'll be disappointed. They didn't hate the movie, they just thought it was a disjointed mess.

The best part of it is when Mike goes on a tangent to blast the creepy cargo cult that's formed around the Star Wars brand the past decade.

Really though it did kind of make sense to focus on Leia as the major OT character. Involve Luke too much and he steals the spotlight. Harrison Ford has wanted Han Solo dead since before Empire Strikes Back. Leia though has a lot of room as a major character without the risk of fans wanting the movie to be about just her.

>I laughed pretty damn hard at his dispelling her illusions about the force with the plant too

The entire theater was in bits at that scene.

>"Reach out."
>>[Rey extends her hand]
>"Holy shit she's retarded."

The ability to move things with the Force is not a high level Force power. It's one of the most basic Force powers.

We never saw Palpatine's training, either, but you're just willing to accept that he knows how to use the Force to throw lightning around out of literally nowhere in Episode VI?

>foreshadow

Shit like this is what lead to George Lucas re-dubbing lines in Episode V to make it explicit that Vader is Luke's father long before the reveal, which if you'd care to remember otherwise comes literally out of nowhere in the original (and even Special Edition) versions and in fact flies in the face of what we'd been directly told be Obi-wan in the previous film.

Not everything needs to be foreshadowed, no matter how major a reveal it is.

I doubt it's Disney directly, I'm reasonably certain all they do is make sure no one sneaks in a sex scene and otherwise give out money hand over fist (the budget for TFA was literally "if we can turn it into a ride, we'll pay for it", hence why JJ Abrams got to build a life-size Millennium Falcon).

More likely I think there was probably just too many or too few script editors and rewrites. The General Purple Hair plot, for example, I'm pretty sure was supposed to center on the idea of there being a hidden traitor among the rebels, while explains why Purple Hair was keeping secrets (didn't know who to trust; makes the audience suspect her), gives a good reason for Finn to want to get out of dodge (former Stormtrooper, obvious suspect), and gives a good reason to introduce two other new characters (Rose and Benicio del Stutter as suspects).

>It wasn't dumb because Leia used the Force

We know she's sensitive to some extent, we've seen it in RotJ and TFA. But to pull this amount of force crap out of her crusty old cooch with no prior indications of training or ability to do anything of the sort, is a massive stretch. But then again, Rey was able to best Kylo the first time she got a lightsaber and beat his ass in Jedi mind tricks.

I suppose the biggest problem I have with it is just how bad it looks overall. Not that she did it, but she looks dumb doing it. Also, with Fisher being dead, it really would have been better to just... let her die. Instead, they let the one living character with a living actor in the film die. I don't understand the logic, desu...

That and to be blunt, of the 3? She's the one of them who's actually a Leader. Han is a dashing rogue but he's never really been a leader and while Luke is inspirational, he's not really ever shown being a great leader in the OT. If you want someone to turn up in charge of something and be an authority figure, she's the right choice.

Here OP, have a serious response, even if you weren't looking for one.

>Party is investigating succubus cult
>Enter a room filled with beatiful women who converge around the party
>DM asks for wisdom saves
>Me and one other guy pass and see the women as illusions
>Rest of the party are getting seduced and charmed
>Other guy gets impatient and decides to manually dispel the illusion
>Whips out his crossbow and shoots the illusions
>Once he's "killed" all of them the other party members are freed
>And there's a bunch of actual dead women littering the ground
>Turns out that passing the save made us see real women as illusions somehow

My cleric felt insanely guilty for allowing it to happen and personally revived the whole lot, but as a player I was just pissed.

Don't try to deconstruct your way out of this. Surviving being blown into space with missiles and flying back inside the ship is not the same as pulling a lightsaber for the first time.

Are you implying she pulled the entire ship towards her?

>implying Luke can't show up later.

>"Holy shit she's retarded."

The movie seemed to be pretty big on 'Rey is a very naive girl'. She's got two giant buttons labelled 'Family issues' and 'Idealistic to the point of stupidity' and people pushed them relentlessly.

Reminder Luke had done nothing but throw rocks around and Yoda thought that was more than enough to life his X-Wing without effort. It's incredibly obvious in the OT using the Force is more about "knowing" you can do something rather than any rigid training. It's not fucking D&D magic.

>
Shit like this is what lead to George Lucas re-dubbing lines in Episode V to make it explicit that Vader is Luke's father long before the reveal

Not quite true, it just made Vader look like an idiot.
>I have no doubt Luke Skywalker is the son of Anakin Skywalker!
>Vader: wait what?

This is absent in the original version. We don't know Vader is Anakin, but it's at least pretty obvious Vader knows Luke is related to Anakin.

At the beginning of Empire we know Luke is at least a skilled combat commander but that's not quite the same as Leia's obvious talents for leading people in general.

>character we only know as having rudimentary force sensitivity suddenly can survive in space and fly through it
>same as the dark lord of the sith having some elemental power

>It's called the bends

Ever heard of Jedi Bendu?

ok, I'll let myself out...

>Reminder Luke had done nothing but throw rocks around and Yoda thought that was more than enough to life his X-Wing without effort. It's incredibly obvious in the OT using the Force is more about "knowing" you can do something rather than any rigid training.

So why didn't Luke just pull the Death Star down from the sky? Why was Yoda so adamant he not leave and instead finishes his training? Why did Luke need any training, seeing that he already was able to move things with his mind and deflect blaster bolts?

I had a former DM who was consistently an asshole with endless asspulls, but the very first one that told me it was going to be a shit campaign was

>on a caravan through a forest
>all players are new, DM has played before a lot, up to level 17
>one player decides that their character would want to get more powerful by burning down the forest
>That Guy but even so
>guy shoots a firebolt
>DM says a dragon flies out of the sky and eats him whole, then shits him out
>waits for him to apologise and say he won't do it again then says it was all a dream

Because he was a hotheaded shitheel wide-open to the pull of the Dark side. He had the ability but not the temperament

In the Lucas concept art Han was going to be a general.

And it make sense form the class lone wolf becoming a leader story trope.

I thought Leia would been a politician. Leading citizens not solders

>Why was Yoda so adamant he not leave and instead finishes his training?
>I don't believe it!
>That is why you fail

It's pretty hard to learn things when your own identity is your greatest obstacle, user.

>So why didn't Luke just pull the Death Star down from the sky?
It took him months with Yoda to get him to start letting go of his self-imposed limits. I think the whole Force thing is about letting go of what you think you believe and accepting the Force can do it.

>Why did Luke need any training, seeing that he already was able to move things with his mind and deflect blaster bolts?
So he didn't turn to the Dark Side like his father.

This. The scene was badly portrayed. The floating looks awkward, the way she wakes up with a gasp is awkward, and it kills the drama of Leia's death (cause Carrie fisher died.)

>Bearded Han

I didn't know how badly I wanted this. Though I have a feeling Harrison would've just said no.

But we didn't even know that old Pap smear was a Sith Lord. We knew Vader swore fealty and called him master in ESB, but this was before any specifics of the Sith master/apprentice relationship had been defined.

I think a big part of it was the fact she was wearing a dress. It made her look like a figurine and that took me out of it a bit. Had she been wearing pants I probably would have swallowed it better.

Really any sort of motion on her end would've been nice. Like that moving statue shit just didn't work. Even Superman kind of wiggles a bit when he flies.

>Resistance shown as truly broken as their most idealistic figure gives up on them
I think this is the problem with the second movie... It doesn't end in a "oh shit, everything is shit, and everything is going to shit" way. It really needed that to bring the film together. Imagine, if you will, with no other changes to the movie if Leia had been killed - preferably by Kylo - as she ran to the Falcon, while Rey couldn't do anything but watch. Immediately follow that up with Luke doing his disappearing act. Keep in mind that shortly before Leia had been killed, the group had basically been told "no one cares about the rebellion anymore."

THAT would have been the perfect ending to that movie.

So... Leia was one with the force all along and had no doubt in her mind she could do it from the get-go?

>presented as strongest guy in the film calls him master
>Is he a good force user? Dunno

>So why didn't Luke just pull the Death Star down from the sky?

Because that wasn't the damn point of him going to the Death Star. It was to try and redeem Vader and confront the Emperor.

>Why was Yoda so adamant he not leave and instead finishes his training?

Luke finishing his training had nothing to do with Force powers.

But we knew the Emperor had powers, he spoke of foreseeing things and the dark side of the force.

I would have ended the movie about thirty minutes earlier. Either have Rey throw in with Kylo, OR have her reject his offer like she actually did but not be freed from consequence for this by a conveniently-timed explosion. Then Kylo kicks her ass and hauls her off.

If the latter, then make it so Finn and Rose's gambit actually succeeds, but now Finn is forced to leave Rey behind because they have to go now or the Resistance is kaput

Then in Episode IX we find out Rey has spent a year being tortured and brainwashed and is now a creepy cyborg enforcer slave of Kylo Ren, and Luke has to confront both of them

Just fucking something to have stakes at the end.

I have no problem accepting this, but then again the impressions of the Force I got from the OT are clearly different than what most fa/tg/uys have.

I'll take this time to remind you that in Episode IV, Vader is pretty obviously taking orders from Tarkin, or at least defers to him.

Hell, Vader wasn't even supposed to survive in Episode IV; Han's shot was supposed to kill him. Lucas literally had him getting away thrown in as a sequel hook. Nothing was planned, least of all that Vader would be Luke's father.

>Because that wasn't the damn point of him going to the Death Star. It was to try and redeem Vader and confront the Emperor.

Luke didn't know Vader was there until they arrived.

>Luke finishing his training had nothing to do with Force powers.

Yet somehow he's more skilled after his training than before it.

>the impressions of the Force I got from the OT are clearly different

Do share.

In original drafts for Empire Strikes Back, Luke found out about his twin sister. She wasn't Leia, but some yet-unseen character named Areanna or something.

The person who tells him this?

The ghost of Anakin Skywalker himself.

>Luke didn't know Vader was there until they arrived.

True, but there is no such thing as luck in the Star Wars universe, and the Force has a will of its own. Luke certainly knew that a confrontation with Vader was inevitable.

Besides which, misusing the Force or treating it as nothing more than tool does not tend to end well, and the Rebellion coming together defeating the Empire and killing the Emperor would mean more to the Galaxy than some random desert planet punk doing the same. If Luke could take out the Death Star by bringing down its shield and letting the Rebel Fleet do its thing, that's preferable to just showing off how strong he is in the Force.

>Yet somehow he's more skilled after his training than before it.

I said Luke FINISHING his training had nothing to do with his Force powers, not that none of his training had anything to do with it.

My understanding from the OT was the Force was everywhere. Being able to use it was all a matter of perspective
>From a certain point of view...

Obviously, bloodline plays a part. Yoda tells Luke the Force is strong in his family. But he also says this
>Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter!
So it's clear to me the Force is more than genetics and X-Men superpowers.

My understanding was the Force is something theoretically anyone can tap into and use, provided they actually understand this is something they can do. What you can do with it is largely up to what you think you know you can do.

Jedi training was to me all about freeing yourself from the physical world and accepting the Force. Once you do that, the powers just sort of...come. Like the Matrix or something.

The movie was hot garbage. Rey is a Mary Sue. Luke does not murder dudes just hanging out because he had a bad dream. Leia should be able to use the Force, but her Mary Poppins float was fucking ridiculous. The casino planet and Captain Planet B-plots were annoying. Rose makes Jar Jar Binks look like Orson fucking Welles.

Stop defending this piece of shit.

This is what I also wanted from the movie desu. A new dark side master race and the resistance reduced to huddling in caves like the Taliban.

Too bad Disney would never allow their new princess to become evil

>WEAPONIZED HYPERDRIVES

SETTING RUINED!

I understand that Luke can show up later, but never in any incarnation of SW have we seen a "if you use the force too hard, you gon' die". Quite the opposite as Yoda uses the force to extend his life for quite some time.

>and the Force has a will of its own.
Oh it does. And it manipulates. It deceives. It's a plague upon the galaxy. The Force deprives people of free will to bring about its goals.

>Rey is a Mary Sue

So's Conan, but Veeky Forums loves him.

>Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter!

Veeky Forums doesn't love Rey as she is boring as fuck and the movies have shit time pacing.

Conan isn't a mary sue get the fuck out of here.

>if you use the force too hard, you gon' die
This didn't actually bug me too much because what I got from it was if you're projecting yourself across the galaxy you're basically turning yourself into a Force Ghost. Since that's basically the equivalent of diving head first into the deep end of the pool that is the Force, I don't see why Luke wouldn't go an extra step and do that.

Remember, the whole point of the ghost thing was Obi-wan and Yoda basically discovered true immortality.

Kreia you're dead, stop shitposting on Veeky Forums!
Piss off ghost mom!

>pic

It will never stop amazing me how people thing the generic, popcorn-munching corporate products that are the Mouse Wars movies are worse and more damaging to the original story than lines like that.

Oh, shut up Kreia. Atris is more interesting to get into an endless argument with because at least with her I'm arguing with something I'm invested in.

Best part of KotOR II is the fact that, in fact, the argument with Atris over your decision to go to the Mandalorian Wars can, in fact, continue in an endless loop until you select the right option, but the loop is so large that it might take a few passes before you realize you're in it, and you have the option of just pushing forward rather than backing down, as well as being able to approach the argument from a number of different angles. Personally I like playing my Exile as someone who's just physically, mentally, and emotionally exhausted and just wants to go home to Coruscant, but is also too good a person to let people suffer while she can help. And she went to the Mandalorian Wars for the same reason: someone needed to help the victims, and the Jedi weren't. She won't apologize for it.

>Rey is a Mary Sue

Basically the entire movie was 'No Rey, you are wrong'. She was wrong about Luke, then she was wrong about the Force, then she was wrong about Luke again, then she was wrong about Kylo...she's not a smart girl.

>"Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense."

Same DM as the succubus cult:

>Gold draconic sorcerer has long term goal of becoming a full dragon some day
>States this goal frequently
>DM has the party working in an area where the main religion is a special snowflake dragon cult for basically the entire game
>None of the citizens give a shit about the draconic sorcerer having dragon blood for some reason
>Anyway, we finally get high enough level for 9th level spells
>Sorcerer immediately picks True Polymorph, turns himself into a gold dragon, and waits it out until it's permanent
>DM doesn't object (or even seem to care oddly enough) and actually let's him do a whole session as a gold dragon
>It was actually fun and I was happy for him that he got his dream
>Next session the DM finally put two and two together and realized that a player being a full blown dragon has implications for her special snowflake dragon religion
>Starts grilling sorcerer on the nature of the spell
>It's definitely permanent and he's indeed using it correctly
>Claims it doesn't work because he never saw a gold dragon before (fun fact, despite the dragon religion being a big part of the plot, we never actually met a dragon in person, but we did meet several dragon gods)
>Except we attended a big dragon festival where we explicitly saw dragons of every color (I think the sorcerer even asked specifically about gold dragons)
>DM pivots and says he'd lose access to spell casting as a dragon
>Sorcerer is completely fine with this
>DM gets another idea
>Retcons him transforming into a dragon and instead runs a new scene with him
>Sorcerer attempts to transform, but the process is agonizing and essentially fails due to Bahamut denying him draconic essence
>Sorcerer finally gives up and stays human

The silver lining is that after the campaign finished, the DM let us determine our epilogues and she didn't reject him trying to transform again.

No but you see she beat up a guy who was bleeding half to death and knows how to fly a space ship! Intolerable power level! There's no way this exists in the same universe as a 9-year-old who can race rocket cars going a thousand miles an hour!

I'm gonna side track things a bit and say just how much I fucking love Han Solo. I remember as a kid I didn't care too much about him. He was just best buddies with the hero. And he didn't have a laser sword.

But I remember rewatching the OT in preparation for TFA and I just couldn't believe how much this character adds to the movies. He's one of the few film characters who I can see is absolutely perfect in everything he says and does.

Or just pull up his X-wing and fly to the planet in person.

Remember that time Conan got drunk, tried to run from the cops and knocked himself out on a door frame?
I do. I remember it specifically for people like you that conveniently forget it.
>Waking to stupefied but ferocious life when they seized him, he disemboweled the captain, burst through his assailants, and would have escaped but for the liquor that still clouded his senses. Bewildered and half blinded, he missed the open door in his headlong flight and dashed his head against the stone wall so terrifically that he knocked himself senseless.

The bends from getting spaced would actually be slow and pretty minor as you are dropping by only 1 bar.

That X-Wing has been sitting in the water for years. While pulling it out is probably trivial for Luke at this point, there's no guarantee it can work and he would almost certainly have to waste time doing some kind of maintenance. Then there's the whole thing with actually getting there and avoiding detection.

Why bother with that, when you can 1) go there instantly via astral projection and 2) in the process achieve Jedi Nirvana?