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previously on Modern General
Questions of the now:
Are constant bannings good for competitive development?
Does it encourage innovation?
Does it discourage dedication?
What do you think? Let us know!

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ur waifu a shit fgt

They encourage innovation when they take down OP decks

i think it forces many to stay 'safe' when choosing a deck rather than playing the best deck for fear of buying in and eating a ban for overperforming/overrepresentation.

i mean we all know that spikes are just going to buy whatever they need to compete but i think it'll drive normies away or force them into medium decks like tron and gx company.

BAN

I hate this card but I would never want to see it banned.
The only thing I want are unbans.

what would you want to see unbanned?

i could go for bbe, pod, twin, glimpse, gsz or sfm. jace, too. that one's just for the price spike though. DRS can fuckin stay banned as well. fuck that card.

Twin and/or SFM
The others I think should stay banned.

>WoTC bans twin because it was "overrepresented" in tournament play
>Top8 shows that at it highest Twin had 11 % playrate
>Meanwhile the clown fiesta that's DRS and Tron

Reminder that the MUH GSZ LETS YOU RAMP TURN 1 argument is fucking retarded considering Birds of Paradise exists already.

Maybe now they are too afraid to actually ban shit.
Or they just don't know what their doing.

>Or they just don't know what their doing.
Name every card that's been unbanned in Modern without checking. Bet you can't.

>Name every card that's been unbanned in Modern without checking. Bet you can't.
Oh come on I just started playing I didn't knew there was going to be a pop quiz!

Birds can't ramp AND fetch green creatures though

>unbanned
GGT, Ancestral Visions, Arcbound Ravager?

sword of the meek

Well when you missed out a couple of cards my point was going to be that most of the shit they've unbanned has done nothing to Modern, showing that they've been completely wrong about how powerful cards really are. Stoneforge Mystic is a perfect example because of just how little the card would actually do in Modern. When you look at a card, ask yourself what it would do in the face of a T4 Scapeshift or a T4 Burn kill on the play.

Yes, but nobody has ever once considered Birds anywhere near banworthy, and that extra G you're paying for your creature is a big deal. Remember, Pod was only banned because if your combo didn't work out you could just grind people out by spamming Finks into standard's latest and greatest pushed midrange creature, Meme Rhino. Meanwhile Green Sun can't repeatedly spit out value or combo off, and you're playing behind curve to do it.

Bitterblossom, Wild Nacatl, Sword of the Meek. Remember these absolute Modern crushing staple cards?

>Bitterblossom, Wild Nacatl, Sword of the Meek. Remember these absolute Modern crushing staple cards?
holy shit i forgot those were even banned

>playing against infect
>turn two, I have one tapped swamp and nothing else
>he swings before playing might of old Krosa
How retarded are infect players?

You have to be pretty retarded to still play infect after Push.

>he followed it by Apostle's Blessing to try to save his shit from Smallpox

I believe it would be interesting to create a rule where all planes walkers are restricted to only 1 of each per deck so a deck could play a liliana of the veil and liliana vess but not multiples of each.

This would be interesting for a number of reasons.

It would be more story like in that you dont have to kill liliana of the veil 4 times only once just as it would have to be done in the lore (we are after all planeswalkers)

this would fix many decks power level like tron and abzan and make it so bans wouldnt necessarily be needed.

would allow for a jace the mind sculptor unban.

More interesting play in that you dont throw planeswalkers around and you actually have to think and protect your walker.

idk what do you guys think?

I think you should go back to where you came from.

>mfw i have vial on 3 and two mana open
>double block ichorclaw myr
>no blocks on elf
>become immense on elf
>tap vial
>blossoming defense on elf
>play flickerwisp
>trigger target myr
>trigger resolves
>bd resolves
>become immense resolves
>cast blessed alliance target opponent sacs a creature
they really are retarded

your mums anus?

Forgot to mention that he sacrificed Nexus instead of Pendlehaven to the Smallpox. I don't play Infect so I'm not 100% sure, but that seems pretty stupid.

I would be sad, since that would kill my skred deck

No, that other site, where underage retards like you are allowed.

how about instead of being a cuck you give a good reason as to why its a bad idea? or are you too busy guzzling your grand papis cum?

This site is 18+. Please leave.

It's complicated and restricting a whole card type is unprecedented, plus I don't think it's a good way to fix Modern.
Plus Wizards will never do something that ruins their pushed planeswalkers.But they should, planeswalkers are lame

theres our answer boys just as i suspected.. too busy guzzling his grand papis cum.. its a shame really..

I agree. I dont really like planeswalkers though they have their place and have some utility and can be fair over all they are usually lame more often than not.

That sounds absolutely terrible.

>sheath is curved
>sword is straight
What gives?

...

Why are scalding tarns so fucking expensive?

Best two colors
Actually I don't know

Birds no, but people have talked about Hierarch ban.

>Why are scalding tarns so fucking expensive?
price memory and hoarding. ktk fetches will hit $40 this year, cheapest zen will be 60.

>ktk feaches will hit $40
thats a bunch of deep fried horseshit

Because Blue. It's the most played color in Legacy and Commander (and Vintage I guess, but paper Vintage barely matters) and blue fetches are always in high demand because of it.

>ktk fetches won't spike to 40 this year
where exactly do you think you are

If i play Collective Brutality

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and discard a card with cycling for example Street Wraith, does cycling trigger and i can draw a card, or do i have to pay the discard cost to trigger cycling?

have to pay the cost

i guess it is a question of why would they spike then.

are there really people who are autistic enough to buy out a shitload of cardboard? why doesn't wotc just print more? god i fucking hate this game so much i want the golden age to end.

Cycling is an activated ability. To Cycle, you must : Effect. Discarding a card with Cycling to another effect does not interact in any way.

thanks
so as Collective Brutality resolves, and as long as i pay 2 health, i can trigger the Street Wraith's cycling and draw a card?

oh ok thank you
ignore

no, discarding is part of the cost. You can't draw a card at all if you discard it to brutality

they'll spike because you NEED them to play competitive lists and groups have been low-key buying them with no intent to resell in any appreciable quantity. this fact coupled with the hot mess that was ktk standard being something wotc does not want to repeat virtually guarantees they'll never see another mass reprint. doubly so for zen fetches. the only way you're seeing any of them again in any amount is a master's set.

If you want cards that interact well with discard outlets, Madness is the way to go. I like to think there's a good Modern Madness deck out there, but maybe I'm just dreaming.

whatever ktk's problems were, i seriously doubt it was due to fetches. fuck off. good dual lands are loved by literally everyone.

Nah it's really just the hollow one deck. SoI had no good madness cards in it because wizards treated discarding the card and still casting it as the reward, rather than getting to cast a better version of the discarded card
pic related

>ktk standard being shit
im pretty shure it was shit due to seige rhino, fuck off

i'm only relaying the official stance of the company to you. i don't have a hand in it. i'm not a policy-maker. defending jeskai black and four-color-rhino-rally is an intredasting position though. care to explain? i was an atarka red man, myself.

Hey i was looking for some help with building a suicide deck, the end of which includes

Entire the infinite (to draw entire deck)
Perilous Vault (to destroy all non land permimants / though id prefer another modern legal card to destroy ALL permanents)
Tolmods Crypt and One with Nothing to clear the entire board

Problem is im not too sure the best way to ramp up the mana for this... especially if I have to use a card to destroy permanents and another to destroy all lands

any help would be much appreciated

worldfire is a card

Yeah, everytime I hear the words magic and investment together I feel the urge to slit my wrists.

People do buyouts all the time. Dump like $50,000 into cardboard in one go. Sad part is they actually make money so they keep doing it.

Roughly what time is the banlist announced?

Fetches are not expensive enough. This is what's killing Magic ;_;

8-10 hours from now roughly

But for example you could cycle the card because it goes on the stack on top of Collective Brutality and discard a different card, right?

No, you discard as part of casting the spell. Once Collective Brutality is on the stack the chosen cards are already discarded

Why doesn't stupid Wizards print rules booklets anymore?
I had one but some piece of shit stole it.

How the fuck are people supposed to learn the rules nowadays?

>RESOURCES:
>Comprehensive Rules
>media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/resources/rules/MagicCompRules_21031101.pdf

I'm not gonna print that shit. I want a nice booklet I can carry with me. They should put booklets in starter packs or fat packs.

rate my custom card?

might make more.

ShouldGoInTheCustomCardThread/10. Also too powerful and not remotely white.

where is that thread?

It's got the same OP image every single time, it's easy to find.

Blood Moon banning when?

Just play mono colored decks.

Just because you outplayed your opponent does not mean that your opponent is retarded, user.

What's your favorite flavor of D&T?

Never. Something from Tron banned when?

E&T. The fun part of the deck was never the boring taxing, but the flickering spam. I just wish Seer wasn't so pushed of a card because it's not as interesting as Displacer, Sculler or Strangler's interactions.

Mono W, I just love my restoration angels.
I can build E&T, but I like the flavor of mono W more.

Azusa best wifu she moves the land beneath my feet. I am smitten

>believing anything MaRo says
The problem wasn't printing fetches in standard. It was printing fetches back-to-back with Battle for Zendikar's fetchable two-color lands, coupled with power-pushed cards like Siege Rhino that led to a god awful 4colorgoodstuff meta.

>I'm not gonna print that shit
This is why local game stores have judges; walking rule encyclopedias. The rules you are asking for are advanced rules that does not belong in a new beginners entry pack.
The rules are accessible in the PDF document the other user linked you. If you can't be bothered to learn the rules yourself, you can ask judges live at
chat.magicjudges.org/mtgrules/

I don't trust people, I trust books.

>What I'm playing tomorrow night at my LGS
Can't wait to be an ape.

You have 10 seconds to explain why you are NOT hyped for Dominaria, aka the greatest set of this decade

>Richard Garfield PHD confirmed to be working on it
>gentle reminder that his last two sets were Ravnica and Innistrad, no big deal
>rumors that R&D is pushing for an old-school aesthetic
>almost all artwork will be hand-painted or drawn; no more digital bullshit
>many MTG artists from the 90’s contracted to work on this set
>power will be focused on Sorceries and Instants, just like in the old days
>masterpiece series will have old-school borders, focusing on foil reprints of alpha cards
>Wizards finalizing contract for new printing facility; no need to worry about card stock or printing quality failures like in Amonkhet and Ixalan
>essentially confirmed Serra Angel, Lightning Bolt, and a heap of all your old favorites back in standard
>heavily rumored to have fetch lands and Tarmagoyf back in standard
>playtesters leaking that this is the best draft environment since Innistrad
>multiple draft archetypes for each color, all while remaining balanced and refreshing
>no more Gatewatch bullshit, Karn and Urza confirmed to be back
>epic storyline already penned that will errata the entire Gatewatch failure and focus from here on out on the stories of each individual plane
>full art foil lands by Anthony S. Waters in every pack almost confirmed
>god packs containing all foils pretty much confirmed
>expected value on this set is through the roof, spoilers not even out yet and financial experts are predicting each box to be worth ~$180 out of the gate

Seriously, if you haven’t preordered at least a dozen boxes of Dominaria, you are making a fool of yourself. Enjoy literally losing money.

wtf is your problem

Should have a cmc of at least 4, should also be legendary, and should be red.

glimpse of N

not asian

I don't have a problem

can't wait to turn my G/B tron into karn tribal.

>Urza confirmed
I wanted to believe the rest, but this is never happening

>no more Gatewatch bullshit
Maro literally said this is still focusing on the Gatewatch.

lol wtf
i doubt RG would come back to previous cards, he likes novelty. He's probably impatient to see the next set of Theros and is stimulating R&D before it.

Source?

I really hate this art. I spent a whole year thinking Thalia was facing away from the camera because her face is next to nonexistant until I looked closer one day thinking her pose looked weird.

I really don't get the logic here considering the darks in the rest of the picture are well defined, like on her clothes. Why is her face so fucking washed out?

Imagine how shitty a foil of this would look with the extra-washed out foiling process

there is already a card called Sworn Defender

say something nice about her

>foreign cards that people can't read
>net-deck tier shit

you're already an ape

(You)