Smitefags are the evil ones. In their relentless zealotry...

Evil according to what metric?
Utilitarianism? By removing those evil fuckers they're objectively increasing the potential happiness of all others, by removing those who gain happiness through causing misery in others.
Theology? Well guess what buddy, if they offended deities of good, they wouldn't have their powers to smite evil in the first place.
Moral Relativism? Who are you to call them evil of they think they are not?

Also what kind of Reddit-tier logic is
>they justify the countless murder of innocents
Bro, smite evil doesn't work on someone who's innocent.

Lesser of two evils.

Justice is indiscriminate and laws will sometimes punish the innocent. But order must be upheld, even at the cost of a handful of people who didn't deserve their fates.

You're conflating "nonthreatening" or "dickable" or something with "innocent" here.

>Because they don't kill the innocent.
This

If they're evil, they're not innocent.
If they're innocent, they're not evil.

Only low-Wis paladins should be smitefags, a proper paladin understands that their cause is more important than short-term justice enforcement.

In these games, 'evil' and 'good' (and law and chaos) are just forces that make up the universe, like 'fire' and 'air'. Having a particular alignment just means you've picked a side.
For example, casting Animate Dead is an evil act: if you do it, you've picked that alignment. But, it's perfectly possible to be doing nice, virtuous, beneficial things with your animated dead: you could build a utopian society, free from poverty and suffering, where everybody is kind and merciful, but if that society relies on animated dead for its labour, it doesn't matter how wonderful it is and how virtuous its intentions, it's evil.

Good=/= nice (or even 'good' by modern standards) and Evil =/=nasty (or even 'morally wrong' by moral standards).

so, to follow up, a 'Good' paladin in D&D can still be a bloodthirsty asshole, since D&D defines violence against certain targets as 'Good', and alignment doesn't properly correspond to real-world morality.

>remove evil by cutting to the roots
>soyboys on Veeky Forums complain

Oh look a NE soyboy crying over getting cucked by a LG paladin. Cry more faggot.

soymind

N-no!!! Azaeicadazesu loves me!!!! She said so and that we're going to get married in hell soon!!!! She would NEVER lie to me.

Smitefags are not canon. Those are just tryhard edgelords who don't know what it means to be a paladin. Yes, we have a lot of them.

"Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor"
"No great advance can be made without great sacrifice"
"Statistically acceptable losses"
"Can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs."
"No pain, no gain, brah"

Take your pick.

youtube.com/watch?v=ubNqUyf0op0

NO SACRIFICE TOO GREAT
NO TREACHERY TOO SMALL
YOU GOTTA SMITE -ALL- THE EVIL, BOY

Oh hey its another "FEDORALORD: THE EUPHORIA"-Thread

Aren't you the fedoratipping retard, though? You shaped your entire identity, beliefs, and personality because you wanted to be an edgy bitch and rebel against society.

>unironically projecting this hard

You can't just go "no u" like that, user. You're the one with tradcath anime girl pictures because your entire existence revolves around being a rebel.

There are both homebrewed and published guidelines for removing alignment from your D&D/Pathfinder games, user. You are free to use them.

Anime girl pictures are as mainstream as you can get, here it is the epitome of conformormist behavior, not a rebel.

>still projecting this hard without a hint of irony

Of course he didn't know that, being from reddit and all.

Who let the goblin sympathizer on here?

OBJECTION!

If they weren't Evil then it would not be possible to Smite them.

If you're going around declaring "I MUST KILL THE DEMONS" like you're John "Spacemarine" Stalvern and it's getting annoying to the other players, it's time to stop.

If you're trying to get away with fuckin' the succubus without getting any repercussions for it and complaining to the DM when they DO happen, it's time to stop.

Because you're being an asshole.

>punching nazis is okay
>smiting evil isnt

Who said anything about nazis? Sounds like you're trying to inject politics into a topic where it doesn't belong, boyo.

"Punching a Nazi" lays in a post-modernist societal philosophy. When you punch a nazi, you don't punch a nazi. Punching and Nazi are both concepts created by an evil hierarchical distribution of power and submission. When you punch a nazi, sometimes you really punch a passerby. Sometimes you kick an innocent dog. Sometimes you only faint having punched a nazi, and then you receive the congratulation of some soys humonculus for your fake bravery. Punching a nazi can't be wrong, because good and wrong are, by definition, the product of the patriarchy and don't exist.

Kick the dog. Punch the nazi. It's all the same thing.

The world of D&D is the product of an evil and oppressive power structure where races and classes do effectively differ in both abilities and morality. This means the smiting evil actually kills people. Worse, when seeing it through the lens of our own philosophy, they kill innocent people, because innocence is by definition the result of power structure.

Thus smiting evil is wrong, when punching nazis isn't.

Oh boy, the leftist "moral relativist" crusade came here too.

You really need to stop falling for obvious bait.

Cry more, Paladins are basically American police with superpowers.

>once we as establish Veeky Forums and Veeky Forums as fiercely gommunist we´ll be set.

Yeah look how well that went when you tried to do that with /tv/

Thats some really nice pasta.

7/10, nearly took you seriously so here is a (You) for your valiant efforts.

Well...Who said paladins are good? Like really? Newest edition D&D does not say paladins are good, heck some paths are pretty fucking evil.
Sure old editions say otherwise, but I think we can use current edition as show of change in times.

The definition of evil precludes innocence. It is literally not possible to kill someone who is evil and also innocent because such people do not exist. You CANNOT do something wrong by destroying evil. You can, at worst, do something illegal, which is a flimsy argument of morality at best.

>Paladin SWAT-Team breaching a secret hideout of the thieves guild with equipped Tower-shields and Cudgels

If you tried to argue against smiting you cannot fathom how hard you have just failed, man.

But that's not smiting, that's doing the town guards' jobs. Idiot.

>annoying

Speak for yourself faggot, not all of us get annoyed at people having fun. Take your "oh so original" kobold barbarian and shove it up your ass.

I know English isn't your first language, but give another shot at reading that sentence.

>It is literally not possible to kill someone who is evil and also innocent because such people do not exist.
Ahem

>Magical SWAT
>townguards

You just keep failing harder and harder.

he´s right tho

You're going after a thieves guild instead of something actually deserving of the attention of a proper Paladin. You don't use fuckin' Space Marines to clean out some dank Underhive shithole no matter how much some snob tries to bribe for it, you use the fuckin' Space Marines against actual goddamn threats.

Do I need to explain it in Deutsch?

This sort of heresy will not be tolerated!
To Hell With You, Vile Fiend!

>le evil bourgeois

communists are just another brand of smitefags

It doesn't get any less retarded with time.

Break the sentence structure down bit by bit, read carefully. Note that the English language has conjunction words like "and."

>WE GOOD ORCS, WE DINDU NUFFIN

That will do pig, that'll do.
Here is your (you)

>you're edgy for cleaving to the norms and morals of humanity's entire history until about 70 years ago
I didn't rebel against society, society rebelled against me

>history needs its butchers as well as shepherds.

you need power for someone to rebel against you

Yes, let's just befriend and make peace with the axe weidling green skinned muscle rapists. Every generation we get a few like you who thinks they can make peace with the orc, they ride off to try and do diplomacy. The lucky ones get rescued or manage to escape with a few limbs still intact. Most of them end up in the workpits or the stew pot.

Its amazing how the fundamentally same thought could be expressed through so many different cultures and milieus.

So many dead soldiers...

From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!

Imo should have said light and daark instead of good and evil.
Light and dark are elemental, but good and evil imply morality.

That's a good one, thanks user.

It really is, but it all reflects a great truth for everyone. Change can be, and often is, painful; even change for the better. The end may not necessarily justify the means, but it should certainly be considered when judging them.

Lawful Stupid

I think you’re confusing what you see in your faggot anime with the actual mythology and folklore behind what a succubus is.

In this edition:
Animefag who likes pretty girls with fake horns decides to whine that all evil (when it's in the shape of attractive females who would be submissive to him) can and should be redeemed because evil is not evil.

Booooooo

Except paladins aren't backed up by the state, senpai
Only killer vagrant paladins are real paladins

paladins only work because of dnd's queer alignment rules

What if the state consents tho?

INDEED BROTHER!

succubi were a mistake