Weekend Warcraft Lore General

Nice View Up Here Edition

Discuss the lore and story of the Warcraft franchise and its application in and around traditional games.

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Fanarts told me otherwise

Datamining suggests Venture Company took over Kezan.

Now with Balance of Power done, my Oathseeker and Truthguard deal +50% damage to all Undead! Who is ready to stand with me to #SmiteHerDown, #CleanseTheGlades, #TheyWillPayForTheWall, #MakeAllianceAndHordeGreatAndHonorableAgain, #MAAHGAHA !?!oneone

It also implies that the alliance attacking undercity is just self-defense against Sylvanas Azerite warmachine

Unique monk RP ideas?

I've been flirting with a monk in the style of Nolanverse Bruce Wayne before he becomes Batman. The scenes with the League of Shadows are all pretty cool, and I think a character like that would be fun. Figure it'd be a good Alliance alt.

Most Monk RPers are either drunk Iroh wannabes or they just quote Disney songs to be "wise". I like the idea of a character whose advice amounts to "shit or get off the pot".

It did. Razdunk used Azerite to take over the island and declared himself President.
It should have been a raid, not a meagre dungeon. He had more buildup than most raid bosses.

>they just quote Disney songs to be "wise"
Oh jeez.

Play Monk Tim Allen

>forsaken will remain like ticks in lordaeron even after the horde retreats
>night elves will be completely cleansed from their ancestral homelands.
>the entire asspull about void elves

At this point, I am not even mad anymore. I just love watching the trainwreck blizzard makes. Blizzard lore makes the End times seem like a dignified mercy killing

>goblins with short noses
Disgusting
Fuck off with your green gnomes

>a character whose advice amounts to "shit or get off the pot"
That would be extremely close to the original Chinese legends

Didn't Kezan sink into the sea?

Updated power ratings:

Goddess tier:
Liadrin (Holy Pussy)
Alleria (Shadow Pussy)
Xal'atath (Voice Pussy)
Vanessa (Hope Pussy)

Great tier:
Jaina (Angry Magic Pussy)
Valtrois (Sassy Magic Pussy)
Alexstasza (Life Pussy)
Moira (Dark but still Holy Pussy)

Good Tier:
Thisalee Crow (Bird Pussy)
Chromie (Time Pussy)
Eonar (Titanic Pussy)
Valeera (Rehab Addict Pussy)

Okay Tier:
Thalyssra (Bland Magic Pussy)
Vereesa (Just Bland Pussy)
Tess (Royal Rogue Pussy)
Lorna (Gunslinger Pussy)

Bad Tier:
Mayla (Cow Pussy)
Rogers (Warcrime Pussy)
Maiev (Justice Pussy)
Azshara (Octopussy)

Shit tier:
Tyrande (Unwashed Pussy)
Sylvanas (Dead Pussy)
Aggra (Shit Pussy)
Maiden of Vigilance (Fuck that bitch!)

>shit or get off the pot
?

It got better

>Unwashed Pussy
Wouldn't be the trolls?
>inb4 nelves are trolls
The ACTUAL trolls?

She's about as close to an Amani troll as possible out of all playable-race characters.

>Rogers (Warcrime Pussy)
asshurt hordie detected.

>updated
>alleria not kicked down to shit
yeah, nah

For you.

It was never a real possibility. Just a trick by Gallywix to make people board his ship.

>Doesn't see precious Tyrande in top tiers
>Finds a single Alliance female in the low tiers
>must be hordie
Night Elves and their players need to leave Azeroth, maybe go camp on Alternate Draenor.

Who in their right mind considers Xal'atath or Eonar? Meme list.

>Kek look at this Shaman upset his artifact can't whisper him sweet little nothings and sound advice.

You're baiting too hard.

*teaches you druidism*

It's an expression about indecisiveness. If you're gonna do something, then do it. If not, then don't. Don't wast everyone's time with saying what you're "going" to do.

A lot of fakey Chinese kung fu mysticism is very vague proverbs which don't actually help with anything. The scene that pic is from has a great bit of dialogue from Based Liam Neeson
>The training is nothing. Will is everything. The will to act.

Meaning what you *can* do is pointless if you don't fucking do it. I think that's a good angle for a WoW monk's philosophy.

Quality pasta, t b h.

Thisalee Crow is literally best girl, go fuck yourself

If you don't mind potentially being seen as edgy

DIE ONE THOUSAND DEATHS

There needs to be an honorable mentions for the fallen girls, too. Amber Kearnen, Ysera, Aegwynn and some others.

Does anyone have that art of Carl from Aqua Teen wearing one of those big monk bead necklace things?

Remember that kart racing custom map in Warcraft 3? That was fun. What would you like to see if they decided to recreate that in WoW?

There was already a podracing track in the salt flats in Thousand Needles, but it was abandoned when the Needles flooded in Cataclysm.

This
I pity the non-Druids

But only if you're a Darkspear, 'cuz he likes you.

>best girl
Here I was thinking Thisalee was Monara-tier, nevermind.

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>???
Porn.

>fucking hated her in Cataclysm
>took a hiatus from the game until Legion and when I came back I remembered how much I hated her while going through Hyjal
>Oh well at least I never have to listen to her/deal with her ever again
>Hear her harpy-like screeching from a nearby druid's companion while questing though Azsuna

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

What are the full effects of saronite?
It drives people nuts but does it have any other properties

She certainly has the best voice actress, holy shit

*teleports behind you*
I'M FEELING STABBY

it's also better than cobalt but worse than titanium for building things

>worse than titanium
Any knave who wastes titanium by building stuff out of it instead of turning it into titansteel deserves to be a casualty of the Tournament.

anyone who's still using titansteel at all in the year of our Light 30 years after the Dark Portal deserves to be stuck in the Nether

Is this art a goblin conspiracy to try and get people to like goblins?

So, the Alliance becomes riddled with closet Voidspawn and (((sea priests)))

Alliance corruption into void and Stormwind raid when?

Can't make a [Mekgineer's Chopper], [Mechano-Hog] from [Empyrium], mate.

Her voice is awful, her lines are cringe-y, and her names doesn't sound like a night elf's.

She just reminds me of the plethora of shitty roleplayers that play their female night elves as basically just purple humans. They ignore all of the interesting and unique aspects of the race to just play their Mary Sue 'special snowflake'. It's especially awful if they think/act like they're unique for it, because they don't even realize they're playing the most common and basic bitch variety of night elf. It's ESPECIALLY awful if their character is a fucking druid, anyways.

It's personally offensive because I've loved night elves since Warcraft 3 and these roleplayers and the writing crew since Cataclysm have fucked them over at every turn. I like the humans and dwarves in WoW, which is why if I wanted to play one I'd make a fucking human or dwarf.

It's an extremely common metal that can be found throughout Northrend, with veins of it lacing the entire continent. It is roughly four times lighter than steel, "can't even be scratched" by an arcanite reaper wielded by a commander of the Argent Crusade, is impervious to elemental and druidic magic and reflects holy magic.

Sylvanas believed that saronite also has soul-destroying properties but considering that she was able to be resurrected by the Valkyr after dying to saronite spikes, that's questionable. Also, the fact that saronite doesn't seem to corrupt the minds of its undead wielders and wearers indicates that either the undead (Sylvanas included) do not have souls at all or that Sylvanas is wrong and saronite has no impact on souls, only on the minds of the living.

Despite being such a powerful metal, it isn't without its flaws. Before it is tempered, saronite is apparently quite brittle and jagged, to the point where it can easily be broken into shards. The Scourge typically performs their tempering of saronite in the Forge of Souls, where gigantic devices known as soul grinders are used to mass produce armaments for the undead legions of the Lich King, almost certainly through the consumption of souls. Due to the fact that they are unaffected by the madness of saronite, all manner of undead (including death knights) are the perfect candidates to wield saronite.

Going by lore rather than the game, I'd say that saronite is one of the top five, maybe top three most "powerful" metals in the game, when properly tempered. It's likely still the metal of choice for the Knights of the Ebon Blade.

Sounds pretty Huojin, user. Semi-related note, the will to act, without an actual plan or an idea of what your actions will cost, is called "impulsiveness" or "recklessness," which is that thing Ji displays at every juncture.

Three lies, user. Wait for them all to be told.

what would be the other metals in your pesonal opinion

Where is this line from?

Best nelf, I'll give you that.

Il'gynoth, Heart of Corruption, a boss in Emerald Nightmare, known for such riveting lines as:

>The boy-king serves at the master's table. Three lies will he offer you.
>At the hour of her third death, she ushers in our coming.
>Five keys to open our way. Five torches to light our path.
>The king of diamonds has been made a pawn.
>Flesh is his gift. He is your true creator.
>Its surface blazes bright, masking shadows below.
>Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it.
>From the earth, he draws strength. Our earth. Our strength.
>N'Zoth... I journey... to Ny'alotha...

Ooooh, that is interesting.

Have they been deciphered?

Five keys/torches and the blazing surface I can't guess at.

third death is Alleria
king of diamonds is Magni
from the earth he draws strength is either Thrall or Magni again

I thought the third death was referencing Azeroth herself.

Third death isn't Sylvannas? When did Alleria die? Azeroth may fit too I suppose.

Sylvanas died three times already, no? Once at Quel'Thalas, once at ICC, once at the hands of the Gilneans.

The five keys were the Pillars of Creation, we're pretty sure. Most people think the Pillars are also the five torches, but personally I think it's the Dragonflights.

The boy-king is Anduin, corroborated by the consistent references even from non-Void sources to him as a "boy-king" (see Gul'dan).

We don't know who "she" is, but Azeroth, Alleria, Sylvanas, and Jaina have all been candidates for having third deaths. (Azeroth's being the Sundering, the Shattering, and getting stabbed by Sargeras)

We also don't know whose heart is a crater filled by the Old Gods, but most theories again point to Azeroth, Sylvanas, and Jaina.

The king of diamonds is Magni, your true creator is Yogg-Saron, and Magni may also draw strength from the earth, but some say it could be Wrathion, or even Thrall.

We don't know what the surface one is. Some people thought it'd be Xe'ra, and some think it might be Teldrassil.

Go full Kung Lao, a hothead who thinks he's the better choice than the other guy, who happens to be more popular.
Also, you wear stylish hat.

They may only be counting her deaths as the banshee queen.

after you first meet Alleria on Argus, there's a cutscene where she literally says "it feels like I've died twice already" so either Blizzard added the worst red herring ever, or it's her

Could be. I think Azeroth "dying" a third time which gives way to N'Zoth's arrival makes more sense, imo.

>once at the hands of the Gilneans.
I missed this one. What's this now?

Godfrey shoots her dead in Silverpine.

Godfrey kills her and her retinue of Val'kyr ressurect her. It's in the Silverpine questline iirc.

>From the earth, he draws strength. Our earth. Our strength.
Azerite might be not what we think it is.

>They ignore all of the interesting and unique aspects of the race to just play their Mary Sue 'special snowflake'.
Argent Downie spotted. You signed on for this when you accepted the Night Elves in the Alliance! Were you truly so delusional that you thought they'd be allowed their identity? Leave the ancient wisdom to the Draenei. Leave the druidism to the Tauren. Leave the wild, untamed women to the Worgen.
Warriors of the Night, ASSIMILATE!

Don't we (players, not characters) know for sure it's Azeroth's blood? What we don't know is what it can do.

Well we know azerite can manifest as elementals according to datamining

Reminder the Eastern Kingdoms belongs to Man, and Man alone.

Uldir is protected by 3 seals.
Only one still functions.
Zandalar is divided in 3 zones.
Rastakhan's palace is one of the 3 locations in circles.
Blood Trolls wants to attack Zuldazar to cause release of G'huun.

View at Uldir.

@57642428
1/10 bait and I'm getting tired of seeing this stupid shitposts in every thread but I'm going to reply anyways. No (You), though.

The Allied Forces joined together to fight a common enemy, but they didn't end up assimilating and becoming a single unified culture. The Alliance should have been the same way. They were never meant to be a unification of multiple cultures into a single entity; they were supposed to be a joint coalition of several varied powers working for a common goal. The mass group that abandons individual identity for the sake of the single group in order to provide a strong front was always the idea behind the Horde, so it's retarded to give that to the Alliance.

Beyond that, it's also completely ignoring the whole point of the night elves, I feel. Their big, racial flaw was supposed to be that they were stuck in their ways and were being caught up in this chaos of the new, younger races. They're strong, agile, smart, wise, experienced, and powerful, but they're also relics of the past. People writing them as just being purple humans are retarded because it ignores the entire flaw and idea behind the race.

Fucking falseflagger.
Don't pay attention to this Horde-loving traitor. Dwarves, Gnomes, Thalassians not loyal to Silvermoon, cursed Man and even dead but not loyal to Sylvanas Man are welcome in the Eastern Kingdoms.
Everyone else get the fuck out.

The palace in Zuldazar.

>The mass group that abandons individual identity for the sake of the single group in order to provide a strong front was always the idea behind the Horde, so it's retarded to give that to the Alliance.
Literally the only odd ones out are the Night Elves. Conform or leave. The Alliance isn't your nanny.

t. immigrant-loving cuck

>people don't understand that Azeroth is a Dwarf and Gnomes birthright
Does your garden belong to the worms and squirrels?

Really it's a mineral rather than a metal, but I'd say azerite takes first place. It has almost infinite potential.

Next up is an odd one, as it's based on a lot of conjecture and that might disqualify it. It's the metal that the Titans use for their creations, whether it's titansteel, empyrium or whatever its name might be. I've got no idea what its actual properties are or how effective it is, but any metal that is the chosen crafting material of the Titans has to be second only to the blood of the Titans themselves.

Third place is elementium. Created by the Old Gods themselves from when they bound the Elemental Lords to their will, it's effectively the might of all of Azeroth's primordial forces bound to a single metal. It's described as the hardest mineral known to the people of Azeroth and not only that, but it is capable of negating magic in all of its forms. In its purest state, it is indestructible. Deathwing chose this metal for his armor for good reason. However, the elementium forced from the earth by the Twilight Hammer was likely impure, therefore much less powerful than the sort that I describe here.

Fourth place is a tie between saronite and demonsteel. Saronite has already been described, but demonsteel is an alloy of leystone, a light, magic-absorbing mineral and feslate, the crystallized blood of demons that were slain during the War of the Ancients, heavy and durable. It has corrupting properties of its own and is capable of not only turning its wearers into demons over time, but can even function as a part of a demon's body, as a replacement for a limb or an organ. The two of them are too similar for me to really decide which one is better than the other.

Fifth place, I'll say arcanite. It's a powerful, arcane alloy that is supposedly capable of holding a sharper edge than any other metal known to Azeroth, in addition to being quite flexible and light. It's still extremely rare due to the magic required in its creation though.

>dwarves are immigrants
>this race that's not only existed longer than humans but has resided in the Eastern Kingdoms for longer are immigrants

0/8 b8 m8

no but it doesn't belong to the plants either you communist

user you didn't like how the Night Elves decided to stop being nocturnal and become diurnal to make things more convenient for their allies?

Is most of this stuff from chronicles? as I was unaware of most of this

I'll have you know our forefathers and their forefathers and their forefather's forfathers were immigrants and the entire Arathorian Dream is built on the Liberty, Justice and the Pursuit of Holiness that comes with immigration.
But those refugees from Darnassus need to go back and protect their own forests, because this is OUR continent and neither they nor their Moon Goddess are welcome here!

Pleb tier list, doesn't even include
>Therazane (cavernous pussy)

DIS IS TROLL LAND

I would say Blackrock Ore is also pretty strong stuff, given its origins. I would put it around Elementium level even.

It's a combination of old, out-dated RPG lore, quest text and flavor text from items.

There's almost no lore behind most of the minerals from literally all of the expansions, except for the following:
>Saronite.
>Elementium.
>Kyparite.
>Blackrock Ore.
>Felslate.
>Leystone.
>Demonsteel.

Everything else, like living steel, khorium, pyrium and titanium, it's all mostly loreless and has no real information about it. It's just there to fill in a slot in the crafting progression.

yeah I checked the wiki and arcanite is only described as super sharp in the RPG lore which isnt exactly canon.

What is the schtick with kyparite agian

It's a dumb sacrifice of a detail that's really cool and makes the race unique (also being a big part of their GODDAMN NAME). That said, it does make a decent amount of sense that some of them would do it. Definitely not all or even most, though.

I'm not too sure it's elementium-tier, but maybe I'm a bit too nostalgic and too fixated on vanilla lore, in which pure elementium was without equal. I'll agree that it's certainly remarkable, but all we know are its origins and the fact that it's incredibly dense and resistant to heat. I'm not sure that's enough to put it in the top five.

I'm not even sure about the truesteel alloy that's made using it, as we have no information about the properties of true steel or true iron.
Fair enough, the RPG lore is something you can take or leave as you like. But the fact is that a lot of the other metals have no real properties listed, which leads me to favor arcanite over them.

Kyparite is amber formed from sap taken from the kypari trees of the Mantids. They mold it into weapons, armor, architecture, pretty much everything they use. When it has solidified, it's hard enough that it's a suitable material for both construction and warfare.

"My father once told me the world was gonna roll me, I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed" -Jaina Proudmoore

It's basically "bones" of Grond, who was basically a mountain with all Elements mixed in it, but made by Aggramar, instead of Old Gods doing it. It requires aid of Elements to work it.