I'm willing to bet an in-universe equivalent to historicals likely exists, both on a galactic scale, as well as planetary.
Aaron Richardson
First for Tarkin did nothing wrong.
Anthony Sullivan
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Michael Thompson
Blowing up the empire's primary blacksite over a security breach was a pretty retarded thing to do.
Brayden Allen
What's a good-sized fleet for an low-level Imperial antagonist in a starfighter-centric Age of Rebellion campaign? Somebody at the level of a Commander/Commodore.
If it helps, the PCs are operating in and around the Tion Cluster a few months after Yavin. They're part of a force comprised on an MC80, a Neb-B, three CR90s, and a wing of starfighters (X, Y, and A-Wings). The fleet's just begun operations in the area, and is mainly sticking to minor strikes on Imperial convoys and isolated outposts.
Caleb Allen
>an MC80 That seems like a tad much, no?
Jason Gonzalez
That game from Galaxy of Heroes maybe?
Anthony Gomez
>One of the ST movie visual guides mentions "Fantafly" dice The people of the galaxy probably play the FFG games. I'm willing to bet Thrawn and Pellaeon are secret Armada fanboys.
Easton Anderson
That was nucanon Tarkin.
Hudson Evans
>Thrawn and Pellaeon are secret Armada fanboys.
Sort of makes me wonder how all the galaxy's best and worst naval commanders would play Armada if they all got together.
An Vicstar, a couple Dreadnaughts and Strike Cruisers, half a dozen neb-Bs and a bunch of single IPV+TIE squadron set ups on the important planets
Blake Williams
PABLOOOOO
Julian Gray
To be fair, the MC80's mainly acting as a base for the fighters, with the Neb-B doing most of the actual fighting. I guess it might be too great of a resource to start out with, though.
Jayden Thompson
Holdo brings an ork ramming fleet. Don't ask how, she just does and bitches until you let her play it. Tarkin and Isard both like to dump all their points into one big, bad ship and inevitably lose to fighter swarms. Wedge favors carrier lists and fighter swarms. Raymus Antilles likes corvettes and going fast. Keyan Farlander loads up on as many B-wings as he possibly can.
Ian Scott
I mean, he did work on WEG back in the day.
Kayden Roberts
Holy SHIT teegee, I just took THE biggest dump!
Parker Anderson
Hux runs nothing but plain ISDs and whines on the forums about wanting a SSD expansion. Also about how squadrons are OP. Grievous runs all Slaved Turrets, all the time except for the one time he tried Overload pulse.
Hudson Stewart
You know, Hux actually seemed pretty cool in TFA. He reminded me of a young, brash Piett, one who was rough early on but could later rise to greatness.
Too bad he turned out like Ozzel and Isard's lovechild who ate paint as a kid in TLJ.
Christian Sanchez
He's yet another victim of TLJ. Is it too much to ask for competent villains?
Jayden Long
Aren't you forgetting someone, user?
Brayden King
With current year hollywood? Yes. Yes it is. Gone is the days of actual scary monsters and competent villains. Now we need to dumb down everything or the millennials won't clap and buy our merch.
Mason Wright
Why did you remind me? He's gone now, and the sequels will never see his like again.
Carson Price
>Hux actually seemed pretty cool in TFA You can't be serious.
Ian Butler
We don't even get competent heros, villains have no chance
Ethan Butler
I get the feeling he could have been a almost Pellaeon-tier commander if he just had been given the chance to shine.
Camden Parker
Whatever you say Double-Satan.
Benjamin Thomas
He was alright outside of this scene, even if not exceptional. In TLJ he's always whiny and incompetent.
Noah Miller
Well, he was an Empire veteran so it's a fucking given he would be more competent than the First Order shits. Also, hi Sixes
Jayden Myers
>VicStar
Why have a manlet ISD when you can just have a regular ISD?
Nolan Miller
Which is why I said he had POTENTIAL, not that he was already there.
Again, my example was Piett. Piett's younger days, he was really brash and often reckless, and was dismissed by his peers as a poor naval officer. By the time of Endor, he's one of the greatest Imperial admirals and military minds of his time, and is much more cool and calm.
That could've been Hux's evolution, from a careless and fanatical youth into a seasoned and capable officer, but as points out, he became a total joke.
>one of the only likable characters of the entire NU is completely wasted
MUH SUBVERSION
He's the most popular Imperial character in NU thus far despite having almost no screentime on the basis that he's the only one we've seen outside of SCAR that isn't a fucking blithering idiot.
Ayden Nguyen
The villains are too stupid to threaten the heroes, the heroes are too stupid to thwart the villains.
Newcanon summarized
Christian Nguyen
How did he accept becoming Captain of this fucking thing? With 24 defense lasers, this thing was a death trap. Was this guy suicidal?
Aiden Gutierrez
The First Order doesn't seem like the kind of place that takes "no" for an answer.
Charles Butler
Because this is a fairly low level dude who doesn't have the pull for a full-sized ISD
Dylan Sanders
>forced to serve in the Shit Order >have to take orders from General Spastic over there >try to change the system from within but get cockblocked by your superiors that have no business being your superiors since they're like 20 years younger than you at the very least >can't even sleep because some kid with a broken lightsaber keeps throwing tantrums every night I'd want out too.
Daniel Turner
>Grievous runs all Slaved Turrets What do you mean by this?
>except for the one time he tried Overload Pulse heh
Nicholas Carter
>star destroyer: angled wedge shape allows for wider arc of fire and ease of broadsides against targets at any angle, as well as dampening the impact of flank strikes
>fo dreadnought: flat as a piece of pizza with a dumb rectangle bridge see guys the new imperials are stupid applaud it for being different
Josiah Taylor
Not him, but I guess it's because slaved=automated and Grievous commands droids.
Evan Price
Execute Order Triple 66.
Wyatt Howard
My personal headcanon is that it usually was a backline sniper and had 2+ ISDs plus at least one Ton Falk worth of TIEs between it and anything remotely capable of hurting it. This made Canady very cocky, as his ship swept through several battles without as much a chipped paint while inflicting heavy casualties on the resistance. And of course the one time he didn't have a fuckton of TIEs between him and the enemy is when his overconfidence gets the better of him and he launches his own TIEs too late.
Ayden Roberts
pretty sure the joke was that in TCW seppie frigates always only fired in one direction, with their primary forward guns.
Ackbar loves the current meta, and actually quietly has been figuring out a Mon Cal Exodus fleet he's determined to get work. Rieekan loves running MC30s but actually mostly runs Madine as a commander, because he loves the maneuverability and options in that.
Angel Hughes
Maybe Hux intentionally put him in the line of fire in hopes of rubbing out the only officer competent enough to realize how full of shit he is.
Matthew Robinson
To be fair, the whole situation would've been fine if Hux had shot down Poe's XWing right away instead of wasting time with his speech.
The pizzanaught is silly and I don't really want to defend it, BUT it's clearly intended to take down capital ships and planetary defenses, not starfighters. That's what the TIEs are for.
John Davis
>666666
Adrian Kelly
>Canady is a highly-skilled player who lost his one chance at the championships because he forgot his squadrons at home and Hux was five minutes late bringing them, causing him to be utterly destroyed by Poe's suicidal bomber swarm
Hudson Gomez
>No Pellaeon to ring up >No proper Imperial Remnant to defect to >The New Republic you wanted to match wits against is gone, replaced by a cheap impersonator shambling about in its skin >Nothing is satisfying anymore
Mason Gomez
I've heard he was a bad commander for losing his ship, but really it's the fault of whatever lack luster fighter screen they had.
Asher Gutierrez
I miss him
Adam Jenkins
SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY I DONT EVEN KNOW WHO THAT UGLY FUCK IS
Ian Torres
We will never have a canon show from the point of view of the storm troopers.
Now if the Resistance had just let that thing fire and jumped to Hyperspace, how much damage would it reasonably have done?
Julian Wilson
>Woah there! Why would you want to see the perspective of an Imperial? Are you a racist Nazi bigot fuck? Get exterminated loser.
Blake Foster
>Wendig Serious question: Could he look like any more of a cuck?
Jace Collins
Only if he had jizz from his wife's boyfriend in his beard.
Alexander Stewart
Or was wearing a Let Me Tell You About My Feminist Agenda shirt.
John King
whats the best build for an X-wing squadron on TTS right now? how many points do people generally play with? I wanna build a First Order squad.
Carson Hall
To be fair, is it that really him or Disney?
They turned the Empire into what amounts to a joke that makes Hethir seem logical and competent by comparison.
David Hernandez
>To be fair, is it that really him or Disney? Disney employed him because he suited their agenda. It's both of them.
Oliver Cooper
Pretty sure Disney doesn't care at all about feminism or LGBTQetc stances, just how much money they can make from it.
Hunter Ramirez
Smile Sweet Sister Sadistic Surprise Service STARFIGHTERS
Jacob Thomas
They just churned out the single most terribly-conceived SW movie ever, splitting the fanbase and bombing in important overseas markets like China, simply to say "haha fuck you whitey Star Wars is ours now". They'll absolutely sacrifice money if it means pushing poz.
Charles Baker
Of course. They're all too happy to rope along crazies like Wendig who actually think Disney gives a shit about their terrible agenda, because wealthy SJWs are a source of cash.
Connor Collins
These things are not generally profitable. Their real audience is children and parents who want to provide innocent entertainment to stick their kids in front of.
John Torres
Except SJWs don't buy, they just bitch. Pandering to them as a marketing strategy is a reliable failure.
Jack Lopez
Ohboyherewgo.jpg
Colton Cruz
Most SJW types are college kids or middle-aged dudes with plenty of disposable income for hipster clothes, Iphones, and Starbucks. They think buying into pandering shit makes them better people.
Look at Dragon Age Inquisition. Shit game, panned by most players, yet lauded by critics for its "diversity and inclusion" and it sold plentifully among Bioware's left-leaning fanbase.
Wyatt Price
>college kids or middle-aged dudes Aren't those mostly in debt, unless in trades?
Carter Edwards
>They think buying into pandering shit makes them better people.
Yeah, but they don't always consistently buy into those things. See what happened to Marvel Comics with its attempts to reach out to that demographic that failed miserably.
Caleb Scott
Anybody have any good art for TIE pilots?
Asher Wright
As a black man, I couldn't give a shit about SJW causes as I'm paying for this to be entertained, not read what amounts to cheap SJW propaganda.
Asher Phillips
Fuck off pol.
Ethan Moore
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Angel Adams
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Carson Gray
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Jaxson Watson
Trying to take an injured pilot to the medbay? I like it.
Ian Turner
Sher looks like all the blood went out of her brain
Angel Roberts
So Krayt Cup 3 just ended- I saw some fun lists there, and the Objectives format got tested in a really big tournament.
What do you guys think of this? I'm thinking it's a potential end to the always-kite-never-engage squads that are a decent chunk of the top tables now (Stuff like dash+Poe)
Reminds me of the paintings of Jesus lowered from the cross.
Sebastian Cook
Did the First Order have any ISDs?
Henry Morris
>Not knowing Kyle >Ugly C'mon, the guy's spam is annoying but don't you be shittin' on my main man.
Henry Thomas
>when you fly over a rebel neighbourhood and the kids shoot you up with .22s and bb guns
Gavin Taylor
At least 30 and possibly one Executor.
Ian Bell
Wouldn't suprise me given they still use the old AT-AT's and AT ST's
Alexander Richardson
30 years after Endor isn't such a long time that would make the ISDs outdated. I wouldn't mind if they used ISDs as much as I mind them using TIEs considering those were outdated. Fighters get old fast, but Hammerheads were used for centuries in the Old Republic, along with Invincible-class Dreadnoughts.
Jose Moore
People usually pay at 100 points.
So you want to go all first order, or just some first order? I assume since you had no idea what standard point costs were, you are new to the game?
What ships seem cool to you? I can help you make a list.
Sebastian Lee
Yeah, but after reading the New Canon, I have to wonder if Imperials and Executors are all trash designs given how bad they perform.
Considering the Tarkin doctrine is mostly "bigger and more imposing than it is threatening" I have to wonder if those things are even worth the hull metal their built of.
Liam Foster
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Connor Flores
>given how bad they perform
Nothing and no one in the Empire is allowed to show even the slightest hint of competency or strength in the Newcanon.
Julian Nelson
Given the build time of these spaceships you'd assume they'd try and keep them in service as long as possible.
I'm not sure how fast technology advances but they shouldn't become obsolete too quickly, especially if they get refits. WWI warships were obsolete almost instantly but late WWII ships could stay operational until the end of the Cold War depending on their cost and role.
The alternative is that you'd be designing the replacement for each model of ship before you're even done building it.
Lucas Russell
>not Triple-Double-Six
Angel Lee
Someone posted a Discord link for the FFG RPG. Does anyone have it?
Jeremiah Garcia
Now that I'm looking at it, a lot of my TIE Pilot art is ladies with scars. Wonder why...
Aaron Allen
>women and misuses of military hardware
Yeah, there's an essay on that and I ain't writing it!
Camden Taylor
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Blake Gonzalez
>rando at work telling me how awesome the First Order was in TLJ and how he’s so glad the movie “brought up issues the series needed answered, like why does no one ever run out of gas” >muse internally that this is the same work of fiction that put “ummmm sweetie, I have the plans here and you don’t”, one-off noncommittal grey morality (what if da good guys pay money to da bad guys which makes dem also da bad guys hmmm), and Rose’s nonsense love-kamikaze into Star Wars Part of me still can’t believe TLJ is a thing that actually happened.