Daily reminder that these fucks are still alive and doing well.
Jaxson Bailey
1st for KHORNE
Nolan Lee
My favorite new piece of fluff from the Banana book is how they apparently knock off inquisitors on the regular.
Carson Martinez
Second to the Imperium's finest warriors albeit lacking ethics of any sort.
Austin Morris
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU
Owen Baker
Claiming best CSM Legion.
Would they be any good for a beginners first army?
Austin Rodriguez
No. Only Death Guard and Thousand Sons are good beginner armies.
Anthony Carter
Admech are not averse to trying that either if some uppity fleshbag tries to requisition too much stuff. I suspect the Imperium is pretty used to Magos Malagra/Ordo Machinum battles breaking out every now and then.
The Custodes seem to be pretty friendly with the Admech now. They let them police themselves, guide their Explorators on occasion and join them fighting Hereteks in the Moirae Schism despite probably taking losses from it, plus they use AdMech gear now. If the 30k Custodes saw that they'd have a collective fit, since they used to be justifiably paranoid of the Mechanicum.
Sebastian Green
Thousand Sons are difficult to play and difficult to paint. Why you call it a begginer army?
Oliver King
I want to put rail rifles on some of my pathfinders but i'm afraid such a fragile unit will be such a high priority. How do I keep my pathfinders alive?
Jace Bailey
IRON WITHIN IRON WITHOUT
I'd def go for them if I was you. just fuck everything else.
Daniel Cruz
awdistraction carnifexes
Noah Rogers
always*
Gavin Wood
Why the fuck is every codex soup shit
Bentley Nelson
How so?
As good advice as any
Jeremiah Diaz
Well they are the most coolestest. Why would they take shit from anyone?
I bet Guilliman is one mistake away from being gangraped by these guys.
Lucas Robinson
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Kayden Scott
I think DG has too many noob traps to be a really good 1st army but even their noob traps are mid tier so it works out. Iron warriors are just tough to play, period. CSM can either be amazing or painful depending on how well you know the codex.
Anthony Myers
I have good news for you user, Necrons is 100% guaranteed to have absolutely no soup in it
Jaxon Butler
I don't understand
Hunter Thompson
>Dynasties keyword Don't fucking trick me, nigga
Ryder Phillips
what do you mean?
Jeremiah Roberts
Good Marines Malovelant are awesome. They’re practically the only chapter that is a genuine asshole. Hell the things people love about Imperial Guard and some of their more idiotic tactics is their mainstay.
Connor Walker
I meant to write 'always distraction'. As in, you put stuff in that the enemy will want to prioritize, thus your pathfinders are ignored.
Matthew Thomas
>Each dynasty will have its own rules >People will run multi-dynasty mixes
There will be soup!
Isaiah Rivera
Got a genuine question for the Tau players: why don't we see the Tidewall Shieldline in lists more often? > T6, 10W, 4+ sv is fairly reasonable for a light vehicle > Open topped, 10 model capacity > Bounces back moral wounds on a 6+ save in the shooting phase > 70 points flat > Non-embarked units can shoot enemies within 1" of it
On paper that's actually pretty reasonable, so what's wrong with it? > 6" movement is kinda low? > embarked models count as moving if it moves? > It lacks the FLY keyword? > are the Tau infantry not shooty enough to warrant running it?
Lucas Scott
Where is this? Are you talking about the Thorians?
Juan Long
The Custodes dex does mention that all of their equipment is still made by artisan clans on Terra so I doubt they are really friendly to the AdMech. They probably only helped out during the Moirae Schism because they saw it as a threat to Terra if it spilled over.
I'm guessing there's the AdMech symbol on some of their equipment because even they have lost some tech over the years and had to get some from Mars or GW just likes putting it on every bit of Imperial tech.
Josiah Ortiz
What would a generic Iron Warriors playstyle be? Sorry for my ignorance.
Landon Ortiz
Skitarii Primus or Sicarian HQ when?
Nathan Robinson
Jobbing
Josiah Bailey
You worked it out at the end there Competitive Tau lists are nothing but suits and drones
Luis Jackson
Getting defeated by the protagonists and throwing a hissy fit of autistic rage.
Cooper Rogers
Blue comes in a spray can now
Benjamin Perry
Havocs, a million cultists and then whatever tanks and demon engines the guy likes/has.
Owen Walker
Anybody got the Ravenor book mp3's? I'd buy them if they were on audible but $50 a book on black library is too much.
Ayden Carter
>cultists I think you mean taking an imperial guard armored detachment. Tanks, big guns and daemon machines are what make Iron Warriors. This newfag is confusing them with Alpha Legion or Word Bearers
Jackson Taylor
Right after they add in the Mechanicum units from Forge World user :^)
Seriously, though, I have a whole Mechanicum army that I can't even use now, because no one wants to play Horus Heresy around here, and all the marine players can just use their armies for CSM and Adeptus Astartes, and even the Solar Auxilia guy uses his guys as a stormtrooper army.
In short, I am a bitter, bitter man with a bunch of useless models.
Dylan Anderson
Iron Warriors fight with a mountain of slaves faggot, and you can't take an imperial guard armoured detachment due them lacking CHAOS, you could take a renegades and heretics detachment to get some IG tanks and some more-different cultists. But the generic Iron Warriors list isn't multi-codex FW.
Zachary Myers
Iron Warriors are pretty okay. They were first and main army for about five years. Sadly making a "fuck off chaos" fluffy list is exceptionally noncompetitive.
Nathan Long
Why are flamers so fucking overpriced? They're statistically only slightly better than combi Bolters at 8" range (3.5 hits instead of 2.66) while being vastly worse at anything above that, but still often cost vastly more. The most egregious example is probably the Warpflame, which costs 12 points more than an Inferno Combi Bolter, making Rubrics that take it cost almost as much as Scarab Occult terminators.
Angel Davis
imperial soup with sob and female IG, y/n? waifu army fuckyeah!
Parker Howard
Can't you play as Necrons or smth? :^)
Alexander Wright
gw thinks d6 is good. no math can prove them otherwise.
Nolan Sullivan
>Using post-heresy colors
Logan Miller
What’s with the weird-ass tubes?
Luis Ortiz
Yeah the competitive thing to do is to deadicate your Iron Warriors to Slaanesh.
Tyler James
Make the IG felinds or no deal.
Jose Richardson
They appear in the Custodes Codex as a relief force
Jacob Long
So whether I like it or not an Iron Warriors list is less huge guns and siege Daemon engines but more cultist spam like said?
Levi Price
you got a deal sir
Christian Perez
You forget auto-hit in OW, auto-hit flyers, ignore all penalties to hit.
Angel Peterson
More so don't care to bother with Mars if they don't need. So not really buddy buddy just not nosing in AMs business
Dominic Hughes
Do you think thallax will be ported to 40k? I really like their models.
>buying and collecting walls Do we look like imperial fists to you?
Oliver Perez
>why are flamers overpriced? >what is auto hit flyers >what is ignores modifiers to hit >what is assault type >what is overwatch
Nolan Long
Apparently Fires of Cyraxus is basically done at this point. They're just waiting for the tau codex first. The last word of it from FW staff posted claimed release by the end of March.
People are wishlisting it for the 'Battle of Mars' (necron v admech) box. At this point we're not even sure if there'll be not-knight admech forces though, so that's up in the air. The earlier rumours did claim two characters, which would imply something that isn't a knightlet, and a skittle prime would be a sensible equivalent to the necron's cryptek.
Christopher Baker
Soup is how you are supposed to play the game to make it more interesting. We just need some neutral faction that could ally with orks and tau and something for necrons.
Jacob Gray
>Excessive fortifications >obsessed with making the perfect fortress >removes mutations to make room for augments for aesthetic >excessive augmentations >obsessively excessive perfectionists it adds up
Ethan Bennett
Use a Spearhead Detachment because you are THE Heavy Support Chaos Space Marines. Warpsmith HQ, have him babysit/be bodyguarded by a daemon engine or helbrute or three and make him repair them so that on top of their wound regeneration ability they never die. Havocs with Autocannons are extra fun this edition, and Obliterators are now "lol so randumb roll a buncha dice" tier so maybe don't use them.
Otherwise some Chaos Cultists are fun, and Iron Warriors like meatshields so it's fairly fluffy, plus when you get to use the Tide of Traitors Stratagem and make you opponent wince as you bring back a 40-man blob of the blighters 9" away from one of his units.
Uhhhh, otherwise maybe some Chaos Space Marines in a Rhino, and some other Chaos tanks I guess. Look into the Hellforged vehicles and Dreadnoughts in the FW Forces of Chaos expansion book
Asher Howard
Basically. Also run a DP with the Fleshmetal Exoskeleton. Sadly the only artillery CSM can field is HH era Forge World equipment which is unfortunately both expensive and made of resin. Most CSM and really all SM tanks are really poorly optimized. You're constantly paying for a weapons platform that is tougher than you need it to be. I play Dark Eldar now, so I may be a tad biased on that last part.
Caleb Young
fuck off
Connor Barnes
Should I take the -1 to hit or +1a on my terminator praetor? I plan on dropping him with some Allarus friends but can put him wherever he is needed ofc. Deep striking for +1a anywhere on or with the termies seems better but people are saying the -1 hit is amazing. I am also playing 6 bikes plus a bike captain if that make a difference.
Dominic Foster
whats wrong with that?
David Young
I hope it's true, my flatm8 plays necrons, this would be a great deal for both of us.
Luke Taylor
Hitting fliers is pretty niche given the range, the first and last point are nice but not 12 points nice.
Honestly if I was pricing the Warpflamer it'd be 6 points. Similarly SoB and SM flamers should be 4 points instead of 9.
Bentley Brooks
>cyraxus ever Lol
Camden Taylor
if i ran fire warriors i might run it tho maybe my pathfinders could use it. i ran a full tide wall in 7th
John Jones
Orks and Tau should both have the Mercenary faction keyword along with Renegades and Heretics and Eldar Corsairs, along with some Rogue Traders. But not everything would have it so you couldn't take R&H in order to add Orks to your Chaos Soup or Rogue Traders to add Tau to your Imperial Soup, or Eldar Corsairs to add any of the others to your Eldar Soup.
Jacob Thomas
I hope that ALL of the FW Mechanicum units get ported over! But as for actual units: -Archmagos Prime -3-man anti armour Thallax -5-man thallax with chainblades -60 tech-thralls -8 Scyllax -3 Castellax -1 Thanatar Cynis -1 Triaros - Vultarax
I hope what you say about Fires of Cyraxus is true...
Easton Moore
my fucking face reading the Necrontyr wiki page. I had no idea the lore went that far back. I thought necrons were lame looking until I read that. Now I think they're lame looking and the coolest fucking lore in the game.
Cooper Sullivan
True, but they're perfectly happy to nose in everyone else's business, so that's pretty good by their standards. Maybe a holdover from the Mechanicum days when there was one guy in the whole Imperium that could technically boss the Mech around, so they'd have been laughed out of the Synod if they'd tried to muscle in on Mars with anything less than a signed order from Empy.
Bentley Jenkins
>Iron warriors >Slaanesh Not after Angel Exterminatus
Brandon Ramirez
>play Admech >expect no soup shit >see the Cult Mechanicus and Skiitari keywords
Dropped.
Camden Nguyen
>thinking of starting some kinda imperium army >suddenly my older sister writes me "make the empire great again" Granted she's talking about star trek, but still, this is a sign.
Gavin Sanders
I've been trying to persuade my friend, who used to play the game back when we were teenagers, to get back into 40k with me.
He used to play black templars and necrons, but was looking into starting Tau this time around because he likes the mech suits and sci-fi look.
I know the codex is out soon, but could anyone give me a rough idea of what 1000pt list would look like, that is relatively cost effective? I'm not super competitive, and neither is the store I play at, but I just wanted to give him a bit of advice on what to look at buying.
Andrew Hernandez
Something like Non-imperial Rogue Trader (they already have too much choice) faction would be great and could produce excellent and original minis.
Henry Murphy
I haven't read it yet, I'm still in Flight of the Eisenstein, is it after Fulgrim or do I have a distance to go?
Colton Sullivan
>inb4 they announce the release date, put the book up for pre-order, then the day before release they refund all orders and take it down citing a lack of faith in the quality of the product
Thomas Johnson
If he wants to play nice and casual, two squads of fire warriors, battle suit commander, battle suit squad, some pathfinders and a hammerhead
Anthony Lopez
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Christopher Walker
its hard to tell what a good list till the codex is out. tau aren't amazing right now. Any of the start collecting boxes are a good place to start
Jacob Gomez
>mobile melee character for admech I'd kill for that.
Gabriel Ross
try harder, GW
Adrian King
You're thinking of Iron Hands.
Adam Perry
I know that games workshop made this meme to shill the model but there really is no need, this model is great, I quite like getting the one off imperial character to season my soup with
Aiden Morales
Tell us more about your oneesan, user
Zachary Garcia
It’s fairly obvious that they did, Ivan.
Adrian Phillips
I realized after posting that I forgot to include Necrons. So they should have a special rule that lets them take one Mercenary detachment per Necron detachment in their army.
I know Imperium has a lot of choice already but I didn't put much thought into Rogue Traders as a choice beyond "Mercenary Pirates" with maybe a single HQ and some basic conscript level troops.
Elijah Brown
You have a distance to go, its after fulgrim It talks about post Istvaan V Iron hands survivors aswell so certainly
Dylan Lewis
Same. My infiltrators would become finally usefull.
Bentley Sanders
If anyone could drop by and push people around on Mars it'd Custodes but the only reason they'd do so is if the Emperor needs it. So it'd be the Omnissiahs Envoys acting in His name. They don't nose in people's business for the fun of it anyways
Robert Price
Does anybody have the screena for the custodes relics and warlord traits they could drop real quick? I forgot to save them in the thread a couple of days ago and don't want to be assed to dig through the archives for it. All I remembered to grab was points values and unit profiles like a moron.
Christian Peterson
Right then, decent distance. It's fine though I like reading.
Ryder Gonzalez
The Prospero book, Bligh's death and the 8th edition rules rush kicked the can far, but we'll get there eventually.
I reckon all of that aside from the archmagos is safe to assume will get ported. The things that are up in the air are the HQs that have more far more rules than they do models to represent them, so may be skipped over or reduced to being constricted to the equipment they have in resin, and things involving volkite, which may depend on how petulant FW are feeling. But damn, just imagine how amazing it would be if FW did port over the build you own Archmagos rules as they are in 30k...
Oliver Ward
Would be nice to have some Admech variety around, especially if a hypothetical Skittle Primus gives To-Wound auras like lieutenants or damage rerolls or something. Hell, almost every Skitarii unit does stuff on 6+, give him an aura to boost any abilities that trigger on 6+ by 1. Rusties doing Mwounds on 5+, 5+ Taser Infiltrators, Carbines and Galvanics with twice the damage or AP procs, maybe even Dragoons tasering on 3+ because fuck your tanks, then explode on 5+ because reasons.
Obviously stop it working on Stratagem abilities or Wrath Of Mars would be horrendous, maybe restrict it to SKITARII even though it would be utterly amazing on Electropriests of either kind.
Aaron Brooks
Do a lot people 30k Mechanicum? Was it for 30k or just collection sake
>yfw Cyraxus gets delayed so the custodes can be properly ported over and released for free first
Gabriel Lee
She's mostly a fantasy book nerd. Like me, she has some kind of ADD/asperger, though she chose not to get a diagnosis. Like me she's a know-it-all, we tend to see eye to eye a lot and have good discussions. She appears not to care about finding a guy at all since she's comfy where she is, despite turning 36 this year. All the more power to her I say.