/mgg/ - Monster Girl General

>Kabron
I'd rather believe in Law than be a mexican.

But in The Order, I can turn monstergirls into juice box.

So are these threads going anywhere, or is it still the same "MGE is terrible, let's talk about it some more" shit?

they were, but then the 40k and /pol/ posters showed up, so that stopped things a few hours ago, hopefully the RPG anons will show up later so we can continue doing shit

We were talking about the fertility ratings and how long should the pregnancy last in Monstergirl setting if combat is involved.

I remember when MGE was still new, before the first book was released. The setting wasn't so bad then, as Demonic Energy™ wasn't everywhere, only in areas with certain types of monsters.
The only monsters that created, produced, or manipulated Demonic Energy™ were those belonging to the succubus family; all the other types, insect/beastgirls, lizardmen/lamia, even undead would just fuck you, and that was the end of it. No corruption included.
Even with the ones that could corrupt, there was a possibility for an average Joe, with enough willpower, to resist their charms. It wasn't a guaranteed end.

I was writing a little story with that in mind, even after KC retconned it all. Oh well.

you ever finished it?

>I remember when MGE was still new, before the first book was released. The setting wasn't so bad then, as Demonic Energy™ wasn't >everywhere, only in areas with certain types of monsters.
>The only monsters that created, produced, or manipulated Demonic Energy™ were those belonging to the succubus family; all the other types, >insect/beastgirls, lizardmen/lamia, even undead would just fuck you, and that was the end of it. No corruption included.
>Even with the ones that could corrupt, there was a possibility for an average Joe, with enough willpower, to resist their charms. It wasn't a >guaranteed end.

That much better than the current Monstergirl setting. What happen over the years that change all that?

Basically, except Veeky Forums thinks it can """fix""" it by making it even worse.

Alas no, never finished. Still have what I wrote though.
KC kept bringing in new monsters, but more than that, new "lore". In some ways it was like powercreep, a new MG item here, a resource there, all tuned toward MG usage. At some point, it went from a trickle to a flood, and every monster, down to the lowliest devilbug had Demonic Energy™ flowing within them, and flowing into their partner during their nymphomaniacal outings.
This was also the point where different types of Demon Realms™ showed up. Where first there was one, the Demon Lord's palace and nearby terrain, now there were many, from "Bright Green Demonrealms" to the classic "All is Sex". I think Zipangu though had some OC speshul type of realm specific to it as well.

It's been a long time, all of the above is off of memory, I don't dig through the MGE wiki anymore.

How do monsters that used to be male or couldn't even pass for human deal with the Monster Lord fucking them over? Imagine being a lich perfecting magic spells or a big dick vampire king indulging in your weird noble hobbies and then getting poofed into a slut against your will.

How do you deal with that?

>3 monster girl threads up at once
Can't you fucking retards learn to slow down for once?

At least we know how MGE went downhill. The succubus can corrupt, but the insect/beast type monstergirls are safe. Average Joe got a chance of shaking off their charms.

At the current setting now, men instantly fall and almost everything corrupts.

>3 monster girl threads up at once
To be fair, one of those is the outgoing thread which is on page ten.

According to Canon, you would actually be ok with it and want to fuck male humans right now

In the Setting we're trying to make, the current Demon Lord made some very powerful enemies.
I think the Demon Lord used a lot of mana to change all the monsters into monstergirls and to be able to control the weak ones.
The strong ones like dragons still got free will and they are very prideful so they are piss.
The dragons also know if they become Demon Lord, it's becomes "Welcome to Skyrim, motherfucka".

>Paarthurnax is now a middle aged ara ara~ dragoness

>tfw no clingy monstergirl gf

NEET dragon girls.

>King I need to trap a dragon in your castle

kek

I think I'm going to remove incubus all together and just have the human males turn into sex slaves.
I know a feminist who's really like settings that treat men like cattle.

thats shit

How would you fix the energy system?

so, everyone in favor of limiting corruptive influence to demon type monsters?

...

>somewhere out there a vampire sits in her coffin with a whole bottle of aged red
>decided not to get wrapped up in the Demon Lord succession a few hundred years ago
>wake up a woman
>vampire brides left with half the undead servants
>of course the harpies left the dhampir you sired when you were 53 and stupid
>he is a she now too
>keeps sneaking off in the middle of the day and covers the castle in crosses
>zombies and skeletons seem the same but the werebats are grooming and have unionized
>sire keeps asking when they’re going to settle down and find a nice boy before they hit 400
>old undead golf club are all married and won’t shut up about recipes and the dashing heroes their husbands used to be
>have been funding Order hit teams on the Demon Lord to no avail
>wine doesn't do anything for her anymore but it's the only thing that seems familiar anymore

I'd just limit it to direct contact, either by sex, magic, venom, etc. It makes humans living with monsters much easier but still leaves a lot more options for corruption.

true, would make it riskier to play as Order or Human Nations aligned monstergirl husbandos.

Yes

We still got the issue incubus producing unlimited mana for the monstergirls.

you know, there is a doujin dealing exactly with this, well, not the same way
basically a vampire hunter is bitten by a vampire, but all vampires are female so he genderbends, and so do his kids in the sequel

>I think I'm going to remove incubus all together and just have the human males turn into sex slaves.
What's the difference?

Incubi have reinforced pelvises.

Incubi can actually take a hit from a MG, greater strength, mallable body according to the MGs tastes, this includes dick length. Also higher cum production.

so basically, removing Chad?

An incubus produce more cum that contain spirit energy and can have sex much longer.
He basically an unlimited supply of spirit energy for monstergirls which blows the energy system out of the water.

All they need to do is capture a bunch of men, turn them into incubus, have bunch of sex to produce demonic energy, and just steamroll the world.

They either need have have the spirit energy to demonic convert ratio to be shit for balance reason or
Have the monstergirls leak demonic energy at a faster rate which is also Canon.

With tabletop gameplay elements in the making, do you think Monster Girl Encyclopedia's unique monster-centric foodstuffs have any effect and contributions to gameplay? What effects would MGE's foods have for characters and gameplay?

>mgewiki.com/w/Prisoner_Fruit
>mgewiki.com/w/Licking_Fruit
>mgewiki.com/w/Intoxication_Fruit
>mgewiki.com/w/Couple's_Fruit
>mgewiki.com/w/Corruption_Fruit
>mgewiki.com/w/Wrapping_Vegetable
>mgewiki.com/w/Intimacy_Vegetable
>mgewiki.com/w/Melting_Vegetable
>mgewiki.com/w/Sticky_Mushroom
>mgewiki.com/w/Raging_Mushroom
>mgewiki.com/w/Pseudo-Matango_Mushroom
>mgewiki.com/w/Undead_Grey_Lamentation_Mushroom
>mgewiki.com/w/Demon_Realm_Herbs
>mgewiki.com/w/Holstaur_Milk
>mgewiki.com/w/Alraune_Nectar
>mgewiki.com/w/Mandragora_Root
>mgewiki.com/w/Slime_Jelly

>looking at the names of the food on the list
We need to make food that help resist or reverse the effect of corruption.

As I made earlier at previous thread What benefits, pros and other good things a human man who's living the life with his monster girl waifu experience and benefit from?

Meaning, depending on the type of monster girl a guy is with, a man will gain enhanced strength if married to lets say a monitaur, orc, hellhound or amazing. A man married to an Ushi-Oni will also gain enhanced strength and the rapid regeneration-healing that Ushi-Oni wife has. A man married to a Lizardman monster girl may get enhanced combat skills, and men married to any aquatic monster girls such as mermaids and octopi girls (Scylla and or KRAKENS) will gain the ability to breath, live and speak under water.

Now I'm not talking about gameplay wise, I mean in a somewhat personal manner. What benefits of becoming an incubus would you reap? Especially if you're married to lets say a physically strong mamono like a dragon girl, a hellhound, Lizardman, Salamander, Minotaurs. Or even gaining fire immunity if spending time with something like a Fire Elemental-girl.

Hell, I'm sure a man who's with a hellhound or salamander may even gain fire and heat immunity since a hellhound and salamander girl have some fire associated traits and abilities.

The love nectar of unicorns.

In the MG-RPG?
'Temporary' Monster Dice, or some Status Effect.

In MG-WHFRP?
Quite a lot more, simply because there are more stats to influence.

"Also, monster merchants will cheaply distribute it even in the human world. Previously, the entire Sabbath organization performed a statistical survey concerning the reasons for the monsterization of human women, and according to that, out of all the foods of the Demon Realm, it seems that prisoner fruit is most often responsible for changing human women into succubi."

Monster merchants need to be bolted on sight

>danukis are most likely to be monster merchants
>their disguise fails if you brush off the leaf on their head
>paladin headpatting squads patrolling all major cities

>"In the human world, this fruit is pretty valuable, but sometimes peddlers, etc. sell bunches of them. The fruit tempts women, and stirs their instinct, and if a human woman lays eyes on it, she'll suddenly buy a whole bunch. This fruit full of demonic mana lets the women who obtain it instinctively understand to take it in their mouth, and taste the pulp...........She ends up as a succubus"

Bolt the peddlers who sell this fruit as hell. I'm starting to think we need to make The Order approved fruit list.

>What benefits, pros and other good things a human man who's living the life with his monster girl waifu experience and benefit from?
I'd argue more on the side of language, culture and anatomy knowledge kind of bonuses.
>Meaning, depending on the type of monster girl a guy is with
user enlightened us to the fact that KC has edited the monstergirls bios, since barring undead, demons and a few rare cases most monsters didn't have corruptive mana in them, so instead of incubi, I would argue that these bonuses would apply to hero humans, and these should be considered and advanced kind of character so as to not have them be OP übermensch

>"trying to imagine paladins doing full blown security airport style patdowns which includes the pat on the head"
Now that is just funny. Please include this into our new monstergirl setting.

I would make heroes the very opposite of the spectrum of incubi, humans infused with holy power. But what downsides does that bring? Do they basically loose the ability to go against the chief god? Become wholly incapable of anything lewd?

it would make sense in my opinion

Cooking monstergirls would probably help with that

Should we have knights that have genetic DNA of The Chief God and infused with her spirit energy like how the Demon Lord have her demonic energy infused with the succubi family?

What monstergirl you think is the tastiest?

>implying the Chief God would lower herself into mating with humans

>Not wanting to create Super Human Knights to combat the Demon Lord's threat
Bring me my mace, time to save humanity!

You already have angels for that. Just mkae sure that you worship the Chief God super hard so the angels aligned with her have more divine protection and are less likely to be corrupted.

Keep them away from men while you're at it.

Hard to beat crabgirl, but dragongirl is bound to have a unique taste.

Slimely or crunchy? *Lion King reference

So have them not produce unlimited mana. Simple solutions, user.

Well the RPG lists Corrupted food and drink as contributing to Monster Score, so it'd do that. Anything besides that would depend on the corruption level: at low, nothing. At moderate, probably still nothing except chilling you out or making you more lewd or what have you, but nothing more than you're normally capable of. At high, probably some mental fuckery.

I'd imagine any blessed food would be enough to help you resist corruption. If you're heading out into demon lands you get a priest to bless your month's worth of provisions and eat those so you don't start turning while you're out there.

I'd have to imagine there'd be something of the sort. Anything imported from demon lands or non-approved traders are under some serious scrutiny. Maybe the actual heart of Demon lands have an iron curtain type scenario going on, nothing comes in and nothing goes out.

I pretty much remove Incubus for the sake of energy balance.
That having both spirit energy and demonic energy doesn't make sense either.

>Fucking believing the Demonic propaganda that God has a fucking gender.
IF God decided to fucking pull a strand of their glorious self and gift it to a Hero
THEN we'll just have to pull up our britches and deal with it.

Simple Solutions indeed.

Though the issue of food inducing Corruption/raising Monster Score does invite the obvious question.
>How does one reduce Monster Score?
Holy wafers and wine?
Ritualised Torture?
Inviting the One Lord and saviour into your soul?

Currently the listed way (apart from at High Corruption where it's irreversible) is to just spend time in pure areas doing normal human things. Go to work, meet friends, pray if that's the thing you're into. Just regular ass normality ticking by will, over time, reduce your Monster Score down to 0 for humans and 1.0 for Monsters.

I really like the idea that normality is the thing that reduces your corruption. What state is there more human and pure than "business as usual", socialising and getting on with life?

>What state is there more human and pure than "business as usual", socialising and getting on with life?
Comfy. Very very comfy.

After reviewing all the food on the list
Sticky Mushroom is fine. It can be useful in an Order aligned monstergirl unit
Holstaur Milk is fine, it's a stamina booster.
Altraune Nectar is fine, also a stamina booster.
Mandragora Root is fine, it roots can be used for medicine and also as a stamina booster.

Everything else gets burned on sight and people/monsters who sell this get Smite on Sight.

>Doing "business as usual, socializing, and teaching about life" to a monstergirl to help control her demonic energy so she can be more human like

This feels very paladin to me.

>paladin has succubus volunteering at the local library
>mistakes it as some kind of kink and goes along with it
>never realizes anything's amiss until she's dressing conservatively and working there full time

I like it.

Sticky Mushroom Extract sounds like an ingredient for Spellcasters to conserve Mana. Except instead of ingesting it you have to slather it all over yourself. Feels disgusting when you wear clothes over said slathering, but hey, -X Mana Cost to all spells.

Sorry, succubus get Smite on Sight, pick another monstergirl.

Just because she is a succubus, doesn't mean she lost her human mind.

Yes, her soul is corrupted and will never know the grace of God upon her death.
But God sees all, knows all. And God will watch this succubus deny the nature that was thrust upon her by the Demon Lord. And God will see her control herself, yearn for the humanity that she lost and may not even remember.
And when the end-times come, that succubus' name shall be remembered by God, and God will tear her soul free from the clutches of the Demon Lord and cleanse her of her Corruption by God's very own light.
And God will declare that all is Good in God's sight.

>Paladin teaching [Monstergirl] that fucking men and carrying their children are not the be-all and end-all of their lives
>[Monstergirl] goes through various careers and volunteering positions as she discovers what fulfills her physically, if not spiritually
>Whilst [Monstergirl] is still driven by lust, she understands that there is more to life than simply 'feeling good'.

>doesn't mean she lost her human mind
That's kinda exactly what it means

I think we're talking about different kinds of Succubi here.

Stop being a bitch, take that hippy "everybody get along" bullshit out of here.
Succubus and the succubus family are agents of the Demon Lord. You need to kill them on sight.
Succubus are here to corrupt our women to produce more succubus just for fun and turning our men into sex slaves.
They are a danger to the human race and need to be Smite on Sight.

Yeah. We're definitely talking about different kinds of Succubi here.
If the bitches you meet are irredeemable rape-monsters that stole your son, go ahead with the blessing of God, and Smite those whores down.

So if you take a succubus, raise her to be pure, instil in her the values of humanity, and teach her the simple joys of human existence, she'll still want to side with the Demonlord and destroy all she has ever known because of her blood or her wings?
Nobody is just born evil and destined to forever be evil, human or Monster.

Demons and devils are born evil. This ain't some anime japanese story.
The succubus are under Demon Lord control and are created for the sole purpose to help her collect energy and turn the world into a demon world. In the Canon, they are literally her agents and soldiers.

>This ain't some anime japanese story.
>says this unironically about a literal hentai series with a JRPG tier setting and characters

's a good thing we ain't workin' off canon anymore then, ain't it?

On a mildly related note, it isn't a Japanese concept that people are born evil. Paradise Lost revolves around Satan not being born evil but falling to it (hell the concept of original sin in general can spark the idea of whether something is born evil, for are we all born into sin and redeemed or are we all born pure and become evil through free will?), Tolkien constantly flip-flopped on whether or not Orcs were irredeemably evil. I've seen like two of those Japanese animes ever, the idea of inherent evil is something that never sat right with me in any story.

*isn't a Japanese/anime concept that people, even demons or traditionally evil races, aren't born evil.

Well this guy ain't ok with the world slowly turning into Slaanesh's demon world.
You got to smite ALL THE SUCCUBUS.

Nobody wants to have the world turn into a corrupt hellscape, all the worldbuilding is done around fighting the corruption - even plenty of Monsters who fight corruption.
It's just that there's the notion that Monsters of any kind can live and be pure if they try hard enough.

There are PLENTY of succubi to smite, if you're out in corrupted lands you're going to find more corrupted demons than you can shake a stick at; just y'know, don't go smiting Miss Jones the librarian down the street who's never even lived under the Demonlord and is a town watch volunteer on the weekends, she hasn't worn anything more revealing than a short skirt since she got here and hasn't attempted to seduce anyone because she's not corrupt - at least, no more than any other Monster who's become a part of human society.

I'm smiting Miss Jones the succubus librarian, you got to smite all the evil, kid. All of it.

This is why paladins get raped.

>the simple life of a dairy farmer

>Smite everything remotely impure.
Pally no
>Pally YES

... Would they need farmers though? Surely she'd control her own production and sell them herself, she doesn't need a farmer to do it, you're not going to find farmers with like dozens of Holstauruses on a farm, you'd find them just selling their milk on the side of whatever else it is they're doing.

This is why paladins don't get raped, because they don't keep succubus around like they are some cute thing. I bet you gladly keep an Alice around only to end up fucking her loli pussy in the end.

Quality control on a brand of milk that people know and trust can't be discounted. His life is simple because they don't need much help outside that though.

>he thinks that the dairy farmers aren't the Holstaurs
Eventually they'd come across as snarky as fuck and respond to any question that sounds even a little like, 'Isn't it weird for you to be milking cows and butchering them?" with "Isn't it weird for you to be eating eggs killing chickens?"

Before they meet a monster it's always stuff like "Humanity prevails!" and "I'll never submit to their wicked lies!" after they meet one it's "I should pick up some potatoes for my wife's stew after my patrol today" and "It's a good thing I'm not scheduled to work tomorrow, that means we can spend all day working on getting that baby. I wonder that color the her room should be?"

Are holstaurs Order approved?

Don't think so as their milk turns women into happy moomoos.

Surely that's only true for corrupt holstaurs?

>Holstaur farmer
>Speaks with a slight Southern accent
>Fully capable of taking care of herself
>As rough and tumble as the land
>Avid outdoorswoman, came out to the country to be more away from it all
>Still polite as hell and really welcoming to visitors
>Good-natured snark levels are through the roof if anybody questions her line of work or life choices
>Cowgirl Cow girl.

I want this so bad.