Infinity General: Horrible Space Monsters Edition

>Catachan
Where is that, Human Edge?

It's okay and 300pts is standard game size. It's basically an out of the box army.

great. I will pick it up then, are toha hard to paint by the way? Am not a very good painter and if the official schema of colors requires a master to look good, I wouldn't be happy. Not that I wouldn't pick the army, my stormcast look rather ugly too.

Why is that tree waving to me?

>are toha hard to paint by the way?

Not if you paint them silver

wouldn't it easier then just to use smoke ink on them, they are metal models right, so inherintly silver.

Noob here trying to gear up for my first tourney and not entierly used to playing objective games yet.
Can someone tell me is there any reason not to pay the extra 1 point on each cheerleader to make units like Zhanshi forward observers?

Standard ones can be a lieutenant/decoy. Otherwise there's no downside to slapping a specialist skill on them.

Cool. Little more specific to Yu Jing but I am also just starting with the models I actually own right now and wondering if an Imperial Agent Crane Rank and a Hsien Warrior are worth bringing together?
They both look pretty similar on paper, with the multi visor simply being better than the X visor.

For some cheerleaders it's two points and you may simply not have spare points. Also the Lieutenant thing.

They're quite different. Hsien is a big long range HMG chap who can see through smoke and defeat camo/ODD, while Crane is expected to move up the board and does a couple of different things depending on loadout. The hacker is a nice combat specialist that can kick the shit out of things in the midfield while pressing buttons, the sensor profiles are more dedicated to specifically clearing out the midfield and have various tools to help do so, and the spitfire is a little more powerful and long ranged but is mostly there for heading Celestial Guard links since it loses a fair bit of the unique utility the others get.

Ok, so I have a bit of an idea of what I want to play but could use some help refining this and finishing it.

3x Zhanshi (2 plain combi rifles, 1 forward observer)
Hsien (HMG)
Crane Imperial Agent (Lt. sensor, x visor, multi rifle)
Tiger soldier (paramedic, combi rifle + light flamethrower)
Ninja hacker (tactical bow, killer hacking device)
Guilang (multi sniper, antipersonnel mines)
Zhanying (sensor, breaker combi, nimbus grenades, madtraps)

3.5 SWC / 266 points / 9 models in group 1

Is there anything obvious I am missing and what could/should I do to fill the last slot in the group and the remaining points?
I own some Hac Tao I'd like to use but can't see a way to fit them in.

Seconding what user says about the Crane being more offensive. It's cheaper, therefore easier to lose, and double nanopulser lets it make some crazy trades. Personally though, if I were going for multiple heavies I'd want to make one of them a specialist, and Crane hacker is meh.

For your list the obvious thing is to get another SWC gun. At 34 points there isn't an especially great choice - there are definitely good things for a little more or a little less! Zhanying is maybe questionable when you already have a sensor and two MSVs. If you do make a change there, I'd look for another combat capable specialist build

I could add a Hac Tao, Wu Ming, or Daofei with a HMG for more special weapon power, but I'm not sure what I should be looking at for a combat capable specialist.

Guilang sniper is pedestrian at best desu. What you really want for those guys is the minelayer, FO or hacker. If you're in need of a cheap long range defensive piece, I'd suggest the HRL Raiden or the Husong remote. They're both a great time for a reasonable price.

And if you're bringing along Hsien smoke is a must. Kuang Shi controllers and Shaolin are both great, though Shaolin are a little easier to get.

Two sensors is a little redundant, especially since you've got a lot of midfield threat anyway. I might drop either the Crane or Zhanying.

What models you got overall? That might help work out what can be done, since there's a lot of variety in vanilla.

Guilang/Zuyong FO, Weibing with hacker supportware, bike/Daofei hacker, Zhuang, Karakuri, Shikami, Shang Ji manlet paramedic.

>Shang Ji
Not sure I'd regard that as good, especially if stuff like Kanren and Crane aren't on the li-
>Shang Ji para
wait what the fuck

>they are metal models right, so inherintly silver

Infinity might be a bit too cerebral for you user.

tbf fair forgot about Kanren/Crane. Shangji is obviously a little cockblocked by Zuyong costwise nowadays, but hey; sweet model, O SWC heavy objective grabber and every now and again the flamethrower or BTS score makes me happy.

I literally own Red Veil, the Crane agent that came with one of the books, the Hac Tao duel blister, and have 2 leftover Wu Ming from my test scheme box. The Beyond Red Veil was going to be my next purchase but only because I thought the models in it seemed useful to this list.

I'd say even Wu Ming cockblock the Shang Ji para. That shotgun is pretty nice. Hacker Shang Ji isn't too bad if you're stuck in that price range and really want a combat hacker, though if there's spare points I'd definitely upgrade to Crane for the multi rifle and CC+stealth. Shang Ji is a good boy who deserves nice things, but N3 really isn't his edition.

You're a little top heavy, as tends to happen with all the sexy HI in Yu Jing. Beyond RV is solid (especially the Guilang if you ignore the sniper rifle) but some support like Yaokong remotes, smoke units and maybe a Raiden would be good too and allow you to facilitate the big fancy stuff better. Or the old Guilang models if you're alright with them.

Cool, thanks for the help, guess I got some thinking (and shopping) to do.

ok, so I guess you can pain them no matter what. my xp with w40k taught me painting models wrong means access to certain rules.

Infinity requires completely different approach to painting.

So Pano has now won Interplanetary, LVO and Captaincon. When will we all bow before the hyperpower?

When they stop bitching about how underpowered and mistreated they are. PanO apparently seeks to steal everything from YJ, even the title of whiniest faction.

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There are some alternate schemes you can try to make it easier to paint, like the Errant Ship's blue color scheme, and overall you can likely get away with just base coats and washes, but OMG so many belts and straps everywhere. There is always five more straps hiding in places you weren't expecting until you start painting them.

You can have decoy Lt's to throw people off the scent if they're not all FO, but also, some missions (like one in an tournament I'm having next week) involve getting points for killing more specialists. Extra easy to kill specialists can be a detriment. Watch out if you've got Firefight or Hunting party as one of your missions.

>Guilang (multi sniper, antipersonnel mines)
How about no? They're kind of overpriced, low BS, and have high WIP where they're much better off as a camouflaged specialist.

You could use a bit more Firepower, maybe something like the Total Reaction HMG Remote if you have it/can proxy it, and the Hac Tao HMG's probably better at filling out your list. Why you're not using the Daofei instead of the Crane Agent when it seems to me that you have Red Veil and Beyond Red Veil is beyond me.

Maybe if Whine Jing rises again.

You forgot Wotan.

Double Guijia squadron list: flavourful fun or retardedly unplayable?

I saw people playing it. Needs an expert player imo

>tfw Hyperpower

Pan Oceania being Number one is literally the first line of their fluff. This is appropriate.

>PanO planets: Each has a distinct theme and feeling, major parts of the fluff
>Haqq planet: Not!Arrakis desert planet
>O12 planet: Underpopulated and boring
Yu Jing planets: Nobody even remembers their names, has to resort trying to steal PanO planets to stay relevant
>Nomads: Planetelets

Now I want a Varuna sectorial

That was just weight of numbers though, not win percentage.

Still beat the biggest faction.

We all do.

Pan-O wins all the tournaments and looks cute while doing it!

Isn't varun a steel phalus secotorial?

ariadna has two planets. their main one, and old earth belongs to them by right of being part of the old goverment. But it is true that both seems like scotland. One with werewolfs and the other a more madmax/old mining regions feel.

>Isn't varun a steel phalus secotorial?
Varuna is where ORCs come from. You know, the signature PanO boring HI used to proxy everyone else.

my bad, its vedick. sounds the same.

I'm going to start playing this game, I'm getting grorious honorobru nippons. Are these guys in resin or is infinity still all pewter

Infinity will forever be in metal because resin is garbage-tier.

All metals, CB has no plans to downgrade to resin at this time.

Don't buy those old gremlins, wait until the resculpt which is coming this year(?)

>PanO planets: Each has a distinct theme and feeling: ocean planet, jungle planet, ice planet, church planet
>There is totally a deep and significant lore, enough to occupy any fusilier mind

Even if you like the minis - WARNING - ridiculous money grubbing scalecreep means that old minis look like dwarves next to new ones. Corvus Belli wants everyone to rebuy everything

The only things in Resin are just the Aristeia Box minis so as to attract the casual board gamer crowd (and those minis have superior metal versions).

Infinity's all pewter (except if you're pedantic: the bases) and all the better for it. Modern minis have a lot of details to it, and some great sharp textures.

Church planet is capital planet. It's more about business than churches, the pope and his friends just live there because they love money.

>Yu Jing has ruling planet and worker planet
>they also tried to colonize Pluto at some point
Wew.

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Don't buy any old models. Infinity is expensive and if you are getting shit models it's a pure rip-off. New models cost just as much, but you get top tier quality. Old models are trash and I don't know how anyone even got into the game when every face was that of a goblin.

>Nomads: Planetelets
Say that shit to me in real life and not over Arachne, puto. I'll flood your net with Joan of Arc porn.

>Infinity is expensive

>lewding the Maid of Orleans

THE INQUISITION WILL FIND YOU, SCUM

Even the old shitty models were a class higher than anything else on the market at the time.
Also the rules. The things that make Infinity unique were present from the start.

>CB is trying to trick is into buying new models by making new models higher quality

>And it is working so god damm well

Some of those older ones are pure fucking shit bro.

Some good looking ones like you say as well. But call a spade a spade on some of those pieces of shit.

On a per model basis, yes.

am polish and even for me infinity is cheap. GW models cost 35$ per plastic character.

That's a planet from 40k, basically space nam.

People call Carlotta ugly now, but no joke, she was the one who pulled me into the game. I just never saw anything like it for any game before.

Now there's a few games with close to true scale proportions and good female models and if you look hard enough you can find some robot cats as well I bet. But CB consistently remained ahead of their competition and only now some people are catching up, as CB can't move much forward when it comes to overall quality (aside from rescultping old models).

>mfw as an Aussie I pay $55 dollareedoos for a plastic GW character

I've literally bought infinity armies for less than a GW battleforce.

Not to mention in Infinity Australians are the number one power.
You should get more of your mates into it, cunt.

I have actually, but fuck my luck my mates are in another state so I can't game with them. I have to settle for my local community that every now and then shows an interest but never long enough to get regular games in.

I feel for you ozz bro.

considering there is no official paint way for factions, do you guys think I could get away with black/purple toha and not the green ones they have on all of their official models?

Personally I would refuse to play someone who had black/purple toha.

>no official paint way

You said it yourself dude. Most people appreciate cool and different color schemes, and the people who don't don't give a fuck what your models look like

am asking because of two things. first am a shit painter, so if someone had toha in non light green skin+orange monkey suit style, it would be nice to see them or know if they don't look worse by being painted darker. Second is I plan to play in Poland, so you never know.

Won't go to wargamer till I have a painted army and know how to play, to not seem like a total loser.

Dude, Infinity has metal miniatures. They're super easy to strip. You can literally paint them over and over again if you're not satisfied with the result

She lewds herself by wearing this, friend

Retarded GW prices don't even enter the equation, especially because you can find cheap recasts with decent quality. Buying GW blisters is for retards.

Same, now purple/black on the ither hand could be really cool.

But seriously dude paint em however you like and don't worry about quality, only way to improve is to practice.

Slut.

Glad to see an ORC finally getting the badass treatment he deserves.

Question:

Tohaa model has symbiont armor and one symbomate. I hit him with a heavy rocket launcher.

What happens? Can he pop his mate and take no damage? If he passes his armor roll is he fine or does the armor deactivate.

This.
>see new Great Unclean One, looks kinda nice, might be fun to paint
>realize that for that price I could buy the 300pt Tohaa box and a few blisters to fill out list variants

>I don't know how anyone even got into the game when every face was that of a goblin.
We had a playerbase consisting of decent people instead of trash like you.

>Also the rules. The things that make Infinity unique were present from the start.

In fact, most games suffered a hell of a year 2017 because of the 40K comeback, but Infinity did reasonably fine because it is still a game on its own.

>there is no official paint way for factions
Paint schemes are in HSN3. Very few people give a shit about them, though.

Yes, he can. Mate popped? Pretend you never hit him for the entirety of the order. This means on the active turn he can sprint the model through 15 AROs, get hit with all of them, and then pretend none of them hit.

He doesn't have to make an armor roll if he uses a mate.

Got it

For symbiont armor, does getting hit with fire automatically cause burnt? How does fire-sensitive work?

Damn them and their Spanish tricks!

Fail armour save against fire, lose symbiont. Only matters with multiwounded symbionts, which there are like three.

>trying to get the spikes on the hsien's back to fit in their slots and stay there

you haven´t tried to stick old PanO antennas into old power armor minis...

>gen2 Hsien has spikes in 2 parts
>bostria sez "oh people had trouble assembling the Hsien, we fixed that"
>gen3 Hsien has spikes in 4 parts

took scalpel made the slit bigger. glue in, fin in, scalpel to flat it to the body. took second to do.

my problems was I put the fins upside down though, and am too lazy to remove them.

Pretty easy after you clean them up.
Plot twist: there is no definitive right way, as the sculptor and later the studio paint job portray them the opposite ways.