>all these 5efags who go into threads singing praises on 5e's "innovations"
>ignorant of the fact that those same innovations were actually from 4e, late cycle 3.5, or AD&D 2e
>the particularly delusional ones who claim that 5e is "innovative" for introducing elements common to non-D&D systems, like inspiration
What makes these so common? Is this what happens when the only systems someone knows are Pathfinder and 5e?
It's indeed just a simplification of the game mechanics and a return to old versions. It offers little to nothing. For Complex i go with 3.5 for simple pre 1st and for something in-between 1e or 2e.
People actually PLAY 5e, this is all that matters whether you love or hate it. You play 5e or you don't have a game.
Innovation is not always invention. Taking practices that already work elsewhere and combining them in new, better-organized ways is innovation. That what we mean.
Why are you replying to this obvious troll.
Hourly reminder that All 5e complaints can be boiled down to two statements:
"5e can't run the sorts of campaigns that I want it to run."
AND
"The game that I want to run does not have as popular a playerbase as 5e."
>"5e can't run the sorts of campaigns that I want it to run."
How is that not a valid complaint when WotC kept marketing it as modular?
Because it's inevitable that this thread devolve into the same argumentation it always does, because everyone on here IS SO UTTERLY STUPID THAT THEY CAN'T IGNORE BAIT. The only alternative is to release your weapons-grade autism and brow-beat everyone else in the thread into submission with your opinion, and hopefully gain a hollow feeling of accomplishment from it.
It's not invalid, it's just not what you originally said. It's just vitally important that I simplify everyone else's statements down to one or two phrases and then chastise them for not saying that first. It's part of how I win.
5e may not be the most innovative iteration of the game, but I'll give the designers a bit of credit for streamlining it into something that's ALMOST tolerable.
> because everyone on here IS SO UTTERLY STUPID THAT THEY CAN'T IGNORE BAIT.
No, it's only the trolls replying to themselves and the newfags. Which one are you.