Pic related, along with his numerous forces...

Can't they counter his space math with their own space math?

no he would, see 40k wins everything ever because its a meme. no matter what it is, 40k wins. it could be a character tailored from the ground up to do nothing but beat all of 40k.

it could be a litteraly all powerful, all knowing, all unstoppable, limitless, inconceivable being who could end any other universe in an attosecond who is completely motivated to destroy the 40k universe and still 40k would win, usually with something kinda weak and unimpressive in the grand scale of it all, because thats how the meme goes.

The only thing directly capable of countering the powers of Anti-Life are Wonder Woman's Lasso or the Life Equation itself, and it's highly doubtful 40k has proper equivalents to either, especially given how shitty everything is over there.

Darkseid is a being of a nature on par with the Chaos Gods. He is in fact a deity.

He is the rock, and the chain, and the lightning. He is the tiger force of creation, and when you cry out in your dreams, it is Darkseid that you see.
Darkseid is.
Die for Darkseid.

Orks would consider Darkseid the orkiest guy around due to his massive amounts of cunning brutality and bruta cunning.

But green is best tho

New 52 Darkseid gets taken out like a bitch because DC's forgotten he's not supposed to be a physical threat. Violence works as a solution against him. Classic Darkseid is a subtle corrupting force that can never truly be defeated, and so goes around spreading evil in the 40K universe, but no one notices because it's 40K and he's just another drop in a long-overfilled bucket.

Tyranids explicitly do not have souls.

The Shadow they leave upon the Warp begs to differ friend.

>I only know memes: the post

Aren't the New Gods just slightly past physiologically equal to Primaris marines or Custodes? Named guys like Mister Miracle, Granny Goodness, Big Barda, and Orion notwithstanding

I don't think Darkseid could conquer Orks with the Anti-Life, since they kind of have the protection of their almighty gods. It might work on a small scale, but if it gets too wild, Gork and Mork may start moving things behind the scenes to protect their boys

They would still fight him. Hell they would probably fight even harder just cause of that.

New Gods are basically concepts. Jack Kirby didn’t fuck around

New Gods are Platonic Ideals made manifest. Anytime we see a New God appear in the comics themselves, it's really just a minor avatar that they've created in order to interact with lesser beings within the Multiverse. The true deities are too busy during it out within the higher spheres in the war between New Genesis and Apokolips to appear directly, and even so, they're too *big* to interact with reality in any real way other than through lesser manifestations.

The only time we've actually seen a True New God was during Final Crisis when Darkseid was fatally wounded by Orion upon his victory over New Genesis, at which point his shattered remains fell upon the multiverse and had the full intention of dragging all of Creation kicking and screaming down with him into Hell.

He was previously a large physical threat. It’s just his plans and reputation makes it hard for anyone to even consider physically fighting him.

So, the Emperor of Man returns?

DARKSEID IS

So an evil Order God shows up. So? He's outnumbered 4:1 by the Chaos Gods, and they're just as strong as he is, and that's before you get into the fact that he's also going up against the surviving Eldar gods and the God-Emperor.

When Darkseid demands you to die for him, the truly faithful stand up and say, "No! I die for the God-Emperor of Man!"

Not even. Darkseid's death was going to ruin the multiverse as a side-effect. The chaos gods have to put everything they can into failing at ruining one galaxy.

>truly faithful
>big e disapproved of worship
Lol

>He's outnumbered 4:1 by the Chaos Gods, and they're just as strong as he is, and that's before you get into the fact that he's also going up against the surviving Eldar gods and the God-Emperor.
>Chaos
>Being stronger than the Tiger Force at the heart of all things
Right. Call me when the base mooks of Chaos can channel the raw power of 100 galaxies as a basic attack. Maybe then, just maybe, they might have a shot at being so much as a blip on Darkseid's radar.

>named character
>base mook

>there is only one program that shows the world as it truly is
>how everything, no matter how powerful, eventually turns to evil
>it is glory
>it is The Wire
Idk how 40k can match darkseid’s taste

Almost everyone's a "base mook" compared to Darkseid (barring shit like Highfather, The Spectre, the Endless, Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, the Presence, and high-tier metashit like Mandrakk and the Gentry).

>Right. Call me when the base mooks of Chaos can channel the raw power of 100 galaxies as a basic attack.
Chaos built a giant wall billions of miles long, millions of miles thick, with gun turrets the size of gas giants.

reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/7718bi/ruinstorm_spoilers_so_chaos_has_a_space/?st=jdqvloqb&sh=1c2ef00d

>Chaos built a giant wall billions of miles long, millions of miles thick, with gun turrets the size of gas giants.
Hmph, impressive. Still ridiculously small compared to the scale that even the lowest of New Gods are working at, but still, it's a start.

Chaos has destroyed universes as well. Just look at what they did to the Old World.

Off-brand Thanos? Wtf is this trash?

He causes a lot of damage, but he's killed. This is 40K, so they have to deal with a lot of shit like that. He probably enslaves billions, but eventually the Grey Knights teleport onto Apokolips and solve the problem through sheer brute force.

Alternatively, Bobby G takes him on personally, and smites him to death with the Emperor's sword. I'm not saying Darkseid wouldn't do a lot of damage, but the philosophical conundrum he poses is basically irrelevant to 40K: It just comes down to a punching match.

I know that this is bait of the highest order, but I still feel compelled to point out that Darkseid as both a character and concept was developed long before Thanos was even a thing.

Darkseid isn't a philosophical conundrum; as wrong as is on other shit, he's right in that Darkseid is in the same ballpark as the Chaos Gods. He is the god of tyranny, the enslavement of will made manifest. Death is an older fear than him, but he is the first fear held by sapient beings alone; the fear of freedom snatched away, of the Self degraded and mutilated to please the Other. So long as one man enslaves and represses another, Darkseid is.
Realistically, the Great Game gains another player.

>Realistically, the Great Game gains another player.
The only accurate answer in the entire thread. And now I wanna watch Darkseid get his hands on some pure-strain geneseed to find out if he can make some Parademons what don't suck.

I usually side on 40k side in this power wankery fuck fest, but people blatantly saying Darkseid is no match to 40k because "Each Kayos Spess Muhreen can shoot like, a guzzilion gahluxies at will" is a retard. By your logic the Emperor is a weakling because a lasgun can kill him.
Darkseid is a god, his physical might is irrelevant, his servants trivial. He nearly caused a multiversal singularity by existing. He's on par with the Chaos gods, and it wouldn't be unbelievable that should he exist in 40k,he would have his own chais space marines. He's the god of evil and tyranny, he may not curb stomp the 40k galaxy, but he would thrive in it.
The Emperor and Chaos work in a galactic scale, Darkseid works on a multiuniversal scale. Him appearing in 40k may even cause the Fantasy, 40k, Age of Sigmar, and Bloodbowl universes to merge into each other due to his multidimensional pull.
Judging him by his Omega Beam or ability to punch Superman is like judging the president of the United States of America by his ability to swat a fly.

I can see Renegade Astartes chapters falling to Darkseid and imposing petty tyrannies on "dangerously free-willed" worlds, that their lives might belong to Darkseid.

Darkseid has a higher powerlevel than nearly everything in 40k, but 40k has a secret weapon: The Great Undivided

I always imagined Pertuabo being the Darkseid of 40k with his 500 Worlds of Medrengard.

excuse me, but aren't new gods just humans that genetically altered themselves to be very good humans on a parallel planet to earth?

And hasn't it been shown numerous times that Darkseid is neither unchanging, nor omnipresent, nor unwavering at all times? In what way is he a platonic ideal?

Did all Tyranny die with Darkseid?

not according to Chaosfags and the shitty excuse for lore Chaos has. According for that they could easily destroyt he universe but are too distracted fighting infinite wars in infinite universes.

I know, it's lame.

As Chaosfag I have to defend myself. No, only Carnac says that. He does not understand one simple truth about Chaos: the daemons lie.

Yeah, but he only controls a single world. Even if he represents a concept, the way greater daemons represent a concept, greater daemons have still been killed before. Even heavy-hitters like Angron have been banished at horrible cost. Roboute Guilliman once beat up the concept of entropy.

I've been hearing people talking the 'Wild Hunt' and batman or something...what IS DC doing right now and how stupid is it?

Question, how does Galactus compare to Darkseid? Galactus, from what i know, is the sole survivor of the previous universal reset, and thus saw the beginning of all things, but that doesn't inherently equate to being on a high tier.

Galactus beat Darkseid in that story, but Apokopolis is a planet without life so he wasn't able to eat it.

Galactus is pretty damn high tier. He's not all powerful but he's got incredible direct power to apply. Which is sorta the issue with directly comparing the two, as Galactus is more of a natural disaster than a person. He moves in, he's near unstoppable and he leaves. He's very, very rarely used his power for anything but sating his hunger and even then he can be made to leave by simply making it take more effort than eating your planet is worth to him in food as opposed to wandering off. Darkseid is a plotter and a planner and a conqueror.

If Galactus tried to eat Apokopolis, Galactus would get run off because it's not worth continuing the fight for so little to gain. If Darksied actually tried to kill or make a minion out of Galactus, things would go a lot worse for Darksied. Darksied, however, has a much bigger effect on the universe as a whole because he actually wants to do that stuff while Galactus just wants to not be hungry.

A much, much worse fight for Darkseid (And one who would actually make it a fight) is the alternate universe Galactus from Exiles. Where 616 Galactus normally has untold hunger and destroys worlds, that Galactus has overflowing life that he must shed so he brings life to dead worlds, which would make Apokopolis pretty much perfect for him and make him the marvel equivalent of the Life Equation to oppose Darkseid's Anti-Life Equation.

>ion of everything since the requirem
The new Gennesis symbol for freedom also guards against it, and I'm sure there are other counters that have been used in the past as well. However, the fact still stands that almost all of these counters are not readily available, and if available would be highly guarded "xenos witchery" because the imperium is dumb.

>Judging him by his Omega Beam or ability to punch Superman is like judging the president of the United States of America by his ability to swat a fly.

This is an excellent analogy user, thanks.

Entirety depends on who's writing them. Certain writers have them as platonic ideals made manifest others simply have them as strong aliens who gained power from being near the source.

At Darkseids best he can destroy realities at worst he jobs to thugs. Like most comics characters who have been around nearly fifty years he has had his powers and origin altered numerous times.

Cannot agree with this enough. Some (comic book loving) people fail to realize or accept that many comics, due to having been around for so long, have so many "high" showings and so many "low" showings it's pretty much a toss-up who would win in a fight in most situations - and that isn't even getting into the variation between writers and continuities.

Or the most important deciding factor: Who's the title character of the comic being read. The Runaways kicked Wolvie's ass in their own book but if it had been an X-Title, it would have gone very differently.

Basically anything that embodies Hope, Justice, Love and all related concepts can work as a hard-counter to Anti-Life. Unfortunately, most everyone in 40k is too hopelessly braindead to ever figure out such a thing, constantly warring and killing each other needlessly as they are.

what the hell is Tiger Force?
It sounds ridicolous and out of place, unless DC multiverse is build around the concept of Kung Fu

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tyger

next question
what the fuck is spiderman doing there?

That's not spider-man that's japanese spider-man and the reason why MArvel is so shitty these days is because Darkseid successfully invaded that universe.

>Implying Darkseid was the one behind Marvel's fall
Yu would be wrong.

>capeshit
Shove it into the trash where it belongs.

darkseid doesn't have a cape tho

DC Metal is an event that’s been going on for a few months now. Batman’s worst fears have broken out of the dark multiverse, a separate multiverse that manifests peoples worst fears into a twisted sort of reality, and are currently trying to destroy the regular multiverse, Wildhunt is a one shot comic tie-in by Grant Morrison and Zack Snyder that tries to explain a few things and set up the final issue of METAL. It is intentionally edgy and I think paying homage to both metal music and crazy comic book cosmic storytelling.

It also has one of the best comic villains in a long, long, long time.

Yo is that bat lantern

I'm sorry, what?

Did you seriously think there was a way back from this? This is like someone doing a Batman gets raped comic and expecting it to never be brought up again. And they kept doing it. The whole fuckin New 52 was like this.

Then they're not Platonic Ideals, which are inherently non-physical.

There are bat versions of almost all the JL. except instead of Superman it’s Bat-Apocalypse.

>Then they're not Platonic Ideals, which are inherently non-physical.
And what are you basing this off of? The fact that they produce manifested avatars and the like? Because it's already been explained that if they interacted with the multiverse in their totality, all of reality would collapse as a side-effect of their mere presence. And the New Gods *ARE* non-physical entities. Most of their avatars and lesser manifestations are usually just slivers of their essence possessing some poor schmuck or another.

One crossover had Galactus try to consume Apokolips. It didn’t work. Turns out that such an evil and generally fucked up planet despite the population and everything else, doesn’t give him the energy he needs. Galactus asks Darkseid why both fighting him is Darkseid knew that Galactus wouldn’t end up eating the place and Darkseid responds that it’s his nature just like how Galactus seeks to consume.

you know how big a mile is compared to a galaxy, right?

jeez, supes silver age power was fucking bananas

dude gets punched by a hundred galaxies and he's just like "ouch"

Who's the guy with the bandages and why is he the most powerful being in the multiverse?

>He only controls a single world
No, his avatar does.

That's Nix Uotan, SUPERJUDGE! Last surviving Monitor in the Multiverse, and greatest protector of Creation from metanarrative threats, amongst which shit like Barbatos and the Gentry are common. The fact that the Dark Knights captured him, as well as managing to infect the House Of Heroes, does not bode well.

To clarify, we don't know who it is yet, but Nice is the most likely candidate.

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Fuck you now i have to reread multiversity

Why do you make these threads, if "your guy" is just abloopbloop-goopgoop multiverse blah blah? what an irrelevant level of wankery

I have the chapter painter open.

What should their color scheme be?

Forrest green and Gold.

>tfw you will never make a Parademon themed army

The upteenth "this person is now in wh40k, how does the imperium mary sue it" is ok.

But I've slowly been going through Kirby's Fourth World and want to put Darkseid into a D&D (or whatever) as the baddie. Any ideas on how to stat him?

Pic related, along with his numerous forces, has manifested within the galaxy of the 41st millennium and is now proceeding to spread across the galaxy rapidly. How do the various factions react to this newcomer, and will they be capable of stopping him? Or will they all simply end up praying to God?

They all end up annihilated because a mass of cosmic energy and raw blazing Light has just manifested within the galactic center. There is no fight to be had, everything in the galaxy just goes up in a blaze.

How is this?

One has to love the petty hatred that is Black Manta.

That....is glorious. Ork + Space Marine with a dash of chaos. I got irl shit to attend to but if this thread is till here when I get back I'll see if I can whip up a drawing.

Not as hilarious as Thawn's.

Everyone in the Imperium confuses him with the Emperor reborn and has a simultaneous orgasm, leading to the creation of yet another chaos god.

I know an easy solution.

I pity Aquaflash

>The counter to Darkseid's trump card is genuine, unironic hope and optimism

Welp... the 40k universe is FUUUUUCKED

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He'd either get stomped immediately or annihilate the whole setting. DC and 40k both have super inconsistent powerlevels, and even if they didn't there's no way of knowing how DC space magic and 40k space magic would interact, which would be a deciding factor in any conflict.