>Previously, on /5eg/ The recent UA is pretty much agreed upon to be a restating of the blatantly obvious, but are there any unique travelling mechanics within your group that you/your players find particularly enjoyable?
Matthew Hall
SPELLJAMMERS! We travel through the Astral Sea in SPELL-motherfucking-JAMMERS!
Alexander Richardson
What's in that chest, /5eg/?
Kayden Hernandez
A religious offering of foods and simple goods to the spirits of the mountain to keep the rocks where they should be.
Taking them might grant you needed supplies, but who knows who you will anger with this theft?
Thomas Edwards
Boots and Slipping and Spraining.
Jose Richardson
That trove needs an update with the UA. I mean there's no rush to fill it with TWO pieces of shit but I thought I'd mention it for archival sake
Bentley Garcia
Three Subclasses UA was good, though.
Nicholas Hall
was it, though?
Aaron Hall
Yes, it was.
Luis Green
The trove needs lots of things.
Like to not have stuff sorted by campaign setting for older editions. Or having the third party sources all in one folder, only to have to sort through which edition you want to be looking through AGAIN.
Josiah White
Nothing, really, that chest was looted at least twenty years ago, but goddamn it, you can bet your ass that at least one PC will die trying to reach it.
Jaxon Robinson
>looks at invention wizard are you sure?
Jace Richardson
This is D&D, son. WotC can't proper sort their books, we must follow and not sort anything, ever.
Nicholas Walker
They said good, not great.
And as meatloaf said, two out of three ain't bad.
Sebastian Murphy
let's call it 50/50, spore druid is thematically interesting but it's powers don't work on half the damn monster manual
Oliver Perry
>looks at spore druid >also looks at brute Yeah, pretty sure. The only reason Invention Wizard is bad is because it's yet another arcane tradition that steps on the toes of Sorcerer. Looked at in a vacuum it's a decent class.
Justin Bennett
Large Soul of a Brave Warrior
Christopher Campbell
>two out of three Brute may have been mechanically decent in a fight, but it's poorly designed and sets a dangerous precedent of "hey let's just make a bunch of bloat subclasses instead of revising the ones that suck like Champion."
Aiden Russell
The sorcerer was a bad idea.
Aaron Robinson
isn't the 1d20 system way too fucking random?
Samuel Peterson
Sorcerer was a good idea, making wizard better in nearly every way and then giving it sorcerer powers to make up for the areas sorcerer did slightly better was a bad idea
Carter Hughes
>Looked at in a vacuum it's a decent class. Being forced to wear armor worse than Mage Armor and a Wild Magic option that's just objectively worse than casting a regular spell is "decent?"
Michael Thompson
>someone at the LCS tells me to check out Gates of Firestorm Peak >alright, let's find this thing >knew it was 2nd Edition >look in the 2e folder >see more folders for each campaign setting >uhhhh ... >to google! >takes several minutes to find out it's NOT Forgotten Realms >click at random until I stumble upon it in the Far Realms folder
I wouldn't mind if at least the trove was searchable.
Colton Miller
no.
Leo Harris
I'll never not be mad about Careful Spell vs. Sculpt Spell.
Dylan Rogers
Not it wasn't, the notion of sorcerer is dumb, and the class is basically a Wizard archetype, but now, he's not even good at that. If the class died off in the next edition very few people would notice, and the ones that notice could get a shitty UA that they would never use.
Chase Cox
You know you can search the trove?
Also look under classic modules redone, it's got a 5e conversion for stats.
Jose Parker
No
Dylan Murphy
Arcane magic classes are fucked up anyway.
Just make a Mage class, with Wizard, Warlock, and Sorcerer as archetypes.
Henry Morris
getting rid of wizard automatically makes all the other casters more playable.
Luis Russell
Are chromatic dragons enemies, in general, of other chromatics of different colors?
Oliver Carter
I would argue they are if they are after the same treasure or the same goal.
Jason Jenkins
What does War Wizard has over Abjuration? Just using Shield and Counterspell seems better than using Arcane Deflection, since it's more likely to suceed and doesn't hamper spell usage.
Lucas Ramirez
shit, chromatics of the SAME color have trouble getting along.
Gavin Wilson
This. It’s basically backwards.
That’s why even Perkins house ruled it on stream, and why Sorcers get bonus thematic spells in addition to metamagic house rules and a pseudo-wish class feature (cast any spell, perform bullshit like a cleric asking their dirty). Rounds the class out a ton and makes it do rituals aren’t so painfully missing.
Tyler Cox
mimic guts
Evan Thompson
>Wizards even get spells back on short rest so they can step on the toes of the warlocks. I guess being named WIZARDS of the coast gives them a level of bias.
Nathaniel Thomas
Yeah, but that cannot happen, the wizard is a staple of the game, since the beginning. The sorcerer is a 2nd edition gimmick, that survived to 3rd edition (nobody knows exactly why), and the Warlock was a 3.5 gimmick, that survived to the 4th, but at least the class plays different from the Wizard (different mechanics, different mood, different spells)
Gabriel King
Makes sense. I assume though they somewhat tolerate or ignore each other if they are far away enough so that their territories don't overlap.
Robert Campbell
it's less about it actually ever happening and more showing that WIZARD, as it currently is, is the problem.
Juan Taylor
Would houseruling in the caster level mechanic from PF/3e be a good idea? It would help nerf Warlock dips.
Daniel Gutierrez
You are a garbage person.
Mason Torres
How does it even nerf warlock dips?
Austin Lee
Just don't allow multiclassing.
Lincoln Myers
How to Hobgoblin?
Nolan Martinez
Explain.
One reason why Warlock dips are so good is that cantrips work off character level, not caster level, as the latter doesn't even exist in 5e.
Adrian Edwards
The only time a wizard got balanced enough was during the 4th edition era, and goddamn it, many will argue it was the worst edition ever. There is no easy way to gimp the wizard, and thanks to the way magic in D&D is handled (fucking broken, that's how), it might never happen, ever again.
Asher Diaz
how build him ??@?
Chase Barnes
The treasure is adventure all along.
Jason Smith
Ah yes, brilliant search function. I'm *bound* to find it if it just lists every pdf in the trove...
As to the classic modules, I'm planning on using that, but I still need the original adventure to base off of.
Jackson Phillips
Industrial Era Japan.
Charles Taylor
The only way to really balance a wizard without falling back into 4e-esque standardization is:
>add a shitload of caveats into being a wizard, ie less spells per day, magic can backfire, comically low defenses. basically OSR spellcasting
or
>have wizards specialize in only a couple schools, kinda like what spheres of power for pathfinder does
Both are very likely to cause lots of backlash.
Connor Parker
Ah sorry, searching only searches the folder you're in.
If you search for firestorm n the top folder, it's still the 20th down the list I admit, but it still helps.
Justin Richardson
Does it seem strange to have Warforged be flavored as androids?
Anyone do this in their worlds?
Jaxson Russell
Hexblade
Oliver Foster
Any cool uses for the command spell other than things like flee, and grovel?
William Thompson
>Explain Caster level was the worst mechanic ever introduced to D&D. It doesn’t even come close in that competition.
Landon Carter
Open, Accept (after proposing a deal).
Matthew Wilson
Warlock dips are powerful because the class interacts with sorceror really well, not because of eldritch blast.
Jaxson Perez
Without caster levels, multiclassing becomes OP.
Jacob Cruz
Defecate is usually fun at parties. I've had success with Listen as well when there was a heated argument that almost came to blows between two NPCs.
Aaron Smith
Suck
Jonathan Rodriguez
>One reason why Warlock dips are so good is that cantrips work off character level you realize any class can grab eldritch blast with a feat, right?
Grayson Ross
Without Agonizing Blast it's just any other cantrip except it can be spread out between targets.
Bentley Green
My world has neither, so no.
Given the warforged mechanics, I'd probably add more to it. I don't know quite what, but they're basically "half-okay fighters who are 5% less likely to be hit on the off-chance they're not in the armor they're likely to always be in" with a lack of a need for mechanics that are easy to maintain for non-robots.
Jackson Baker
I've gotten away with 'mute' to shut up spellcasters before.
Lincoln Foster
No. Just don't allow a dip that doesn't make reasonable fluff sense and accept that a few more cantrips isn't exactly part-unabalancing levels of horrible.
Ethan Perez
pls respond
Alexander Gray
"Sign." There are a great many contracts one can enforce in the King's realm.
James Reed
Can't use counterspell at 2nd level, affects saving throws which shield doesn't, might need to prepare something else and want a backup for when you don't have shield, might wanna conserve your spell slots and not burn shield for a bonus.
Thomas Scott
Oh, and if you somehow manage to have multiple reactions (I forget if you can do that), using shield on one attack and then arcane D on the other.
Ryder Bennett
Would multiclassing from a fighter into a druid be an ok idea?
Jose Sanchez
Probably not.
I'd personally try and bring back the magen from earlier editions though. Specifically demos and hypnos for combat/diplomatic androids.
Asher Cooper
>open, opens mouth Doesn't work >accept, accepts the existential dream of being under a mind control spell nope >Listen, listens to the sound of the wind blowing around >mute Doesn't work unless you're translating from a language where there is a verb form of mute sign, starts doing sign language
Having That DM has made me hate spells open to interpretation
Lucas Gomez
Play with a better DM, shit. I bet you've never known the joys of illusion magic, either.
Ryder Parker
There is no way officially to have multiple reactions. You could homebrew something like this to make it happen though.
Eli Bell
"Surrender." I was DM, tried it on a PC. The idea is he would drop his weapon and approach the caster with hands on head.
The save was stupid low though so it failed. Dang.
Cooper Bennett
>mute doesn't work
'Whistle', then.
Adrian Edwards
What benefit are you hoping to derive from it? If this isn't a roleplaying thing, you probably would have just been better off going revised ranger.
Jose Evans
Well having spells would be nice and shapeshifting opens up a lot of opportunities. Already have a fighter guy so starting as a ranger isnt really an option.
Jordan Nguyen
I've seen people go BM3/Moon Druid X to have maneuvers in wildshape, which can lead to interesting roleplaying opportunities. Definitely gets weaker the higher you get in levels, because druids have some pretty good high level features.
Jaxon Butler
How about "Silence"?
Anthony Lopez
Druid and Cleric are pretty good for low-level utility spells since they can swap around their spell list and have ritual caster, so that's not a bad idea. You'll find shapeshifting very limited with a 1-2 level dip though unless you take circle of the land, and that will drop off pretty fast.
Jaxon Reed
Moon druids make bad multiclass options outside of one shots, you want the levels in druid asap to increase your CR rating of your beasts (1/3rd of your druid level, 10 lvl for CR5 elementals), the only real options worth considering is 1 level in either Barb or Monk for Rage or the monks unarmored defense.
Action Surge is always great on everyone and you can get alot of bang for your buck from some of the Multiattacks your forms have but your CR forms are going to be lacking compared to a straight moon druid
Luke Brooks
A fire trap that also incinerates the contents. Our rogue is bad at his job.
Bentley Watson
*circle of the moon what the fuck am I saying
Jack Ward
>doesn't work unless you're translating from a language where there is a verb form of mute
Like English, where mute is both a verb and an adjective?
Jose Foster
This is a map I'm working on for running my first DnD game. It's very basic at this stage and I'd like it to be better. Any feedback is appreciated!
Dylan Wood
What sort of viability is there for using your beast forms as ablative armor?
Ayden Bell
I have literally never heard anyone say mute as a way to tell someone to stop talking/be quiet. Mute is a verb as an action you do to something else.
Landon Morgan
vaguely sexual
Leo Morris
A sentient weapon that was placed under a cliff in a chest by its last wielder who hated it with a burning passion. So they placed it under a cliff so no one will ever find it.
Benjamin Adams
The intent of the spell is that the target follows the most obvious application of the word, not some interpretive bullshit that ultimately defies it. Otherwise it would be completely useless.
Camden King
Unless you're a circle of the moon, you need to spend your full action to wildshape. If you're a moon druid it's workable, but you get two uses and it doesn't scale unless you're making major investments in druid.
Ethan Watson
well you'll need moon druid to start so thats a 2 level dip so you can shift as a bonus action, then you have access to CR 1 forms
the best AC your gonna get is 14 with either the Dire Wolf or the Giant Hyena. the Hyena also boasts 45 hit points, the best is the Giant Octopus with 52(which can hold it's breath for 1hr so if your DM is ok with it you can use it on land and it's quite a strong CR1 beast to use)
you get 2 of these per short rest
Alexander Thomas
Glad I'm not the only one who saw it
Jason Phillips
fked up a bit, the Dire Wolf & Giant Spider boast the best AC at 14 the Hyena is at 12
Landon Collins
What's a good way to introduce the big bad that lords over the current big bad? Like if it turns out he worships a demon lord who intends to invade the material plane. I'd like it to be something more substantial than "He has some demon paraphernalia"
Gabriel Thomas
Tooling off of this, how broken would two word Command be?