/SWG/ - Devastating Rebel Bombardment Edition.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Can you stop this dangerous moonscape maker from pounding holes in your armored lines?

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

You can go to hell, and take your custom built salt mining truck with you.

Bidwell
Bidwell

I love the character art of the FFG RPGs. They do a really good job of mimicking the aesthetics of Star Wars without just constantly repeating the same six outfits.

Shame it's hard to get decent pictures of them.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Can you stop this dangerous moonscape maker from pounding holes in your armored lines?

Marching your troops down an empty field in EaW
Entire front line explodes
Fog of war clears at the top of the hill
It's an MPTL-2A
psssh...nothin...personnel...kid...

Snarelure
Snarelure

I agree

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I'm sorry sir, it's time for you to leave

whereismyname
whereismyname

You've just been promoted to captain within either the newly-formed New Republic Defense Fleet, or under one of the Imperial factions two years after Endor.

You're given the choice of a few vessels no larger than a frigate to police a star system, along with the respective complement of starfighters (if doesn't have a dedicated compliment, you're issued two squadrons, and will be garrisoned on one of the local planets).

What is the class and name of your command, Veeky Forums? What star system/planet do you choose?

Illusionz
Illusionz

gontinue

Soft_member
Soft_member

mfw raid fleets of MPTLs and T4-Bs utterly demolish your lightly defended planets
I'm still salty, though not as salty as when the Consortium showed up and brought a whole new level of bullshit with them.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

The answer is always Gozantis with attached TIE docking clamps.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Artillery is one of the main reasons I dropped EAW. Some of the most fucking frustrating bullshit in the game.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Mods my man. Absolute Corruption or Thrawn's Revenge. The former helps buff the Empire so they're at least competitive against the Rebels (although the Rebels became by far the weakest faction as the war essentially turns into Empire with every ISD variant vs Consortium CIS Fleets)

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

entire fucking starfleet of Vengeance cruisers uncloaks itself after surrounding your ships
NOTHIN PERSONNEL KID

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

I'll go with a Victory II Star Destroyer called the Dauntless, let's have it patrol near Ryloth. Seems like a place that would be a hotbed for Rebel activity.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Weren't those the frigates that didn't have any shields?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Yeah and the twin mass drivers.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Can I get a Carrack instead? they're basically frigate size, and they can chase down X-wings, or if I can get a sweet enough mechanic to work on it, A-wings, Interceptors or even Defenders, so buddy and his jacked up light freighter are toast if he tries piracy around here, and anything up to neb-B sized is fucked six ways from sunday when I catch it and get in a shootout
Bring some X-wings for fighter support, decent planetary shielding and nobody who won't be heard of and planned for a month away is a threat at all

farquit
farquit

I'd be captain of a Tartan stationed in the middle of bumfuck nowhere. It would be manned by me and my mates from the Academy and we would spend our merry days fucking around, playing Dejarik, and going groundside to harass Twi'lek girls and extort bribe money.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I can't believe there's still no mod to remove arty.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

>Legends

Probably a NR MC40 if that counts, with a complement of Fang Fighters, ARC-170s, and and retrofitted TIE Interceptors

>NuCanon

Captain of fucking nothing because the Senate decommissioned and scrapped my vessel/my entire fucking military was destroyed at Jakku

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Oh, but user! There are plenty of mods to increase company sizes! So now the carnage can be increased tenfold and the AI's horrible pathing can destroy your whole army before the enemy can.

But seriously, ground battles can suck a big fat one with how painful they are.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

How powerful was an average Jedi? From rewatching TCW and the PT it has come to my attention that an average Jedi isn't all that great and drives home the point when Qui-Gon said Jedi could be killed.

Supergrass
Supergrass

i'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of ewok suicide bombs

bitch nigga

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

One of the comically-overgunned Munifex-class light cruisers, a 300m vessel with 28 turbolasers, 12 ion cannons, and a full squadron of TIE fighters. Named the Spikeshark, and escorted by a pair of Gozantis with 4 TIE apiece.

Somewhere in the Aparo sector right on the border of Corporate Space. Mostly dealing with smugglers and mercenaries. Maybe the Lo'Uran system, which was just under marginal control without a full garrison.

At the end of the day, I'm flying around in a fat little potato filled to the gills in guns in a backwater system with little to no importance. Attempt to keep my head down, vomit up laser fire on anything that starts trouble, and do my 20 years before retiring somewhere in the Core on my fat pension.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Extremely dangerous to your average joe trooper, still vulnerable to an elite murderer like Jango Fett.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Great in which area? Jedi are peacekeepers and diplomats first and foremost. They also have some martial training, with those who are warriors first being very much the exception rather than the rule.

Playboyize
Playboyize


Basically, enough. It also depends on the era.

Jedi of The Old Republic era could at least stand toe to toe with a Sith Warrior, as well as Mandos.

The Jedi of the PT era are out of practice, after a millennium of pretty much only dealing with renegades, pirates, and Hutt thugs. They're less well equipped to deal with Sith than their forerunners were, hence why so many fall to Maul, Dooku, Asajj, the Acoyltes, Durge, Grievous, etc.

The war hardened a lot of them, but they still couldn't handle an army of clones shooting at them at once (HK-47's maxim). The survivors however are much more resourceful and hardened, but either their overconfidence after surviving the Jedi Purge makes them susceptible to bounty hunters/Inquisitors, or they're just no match for Darth Vader.

NJO on they're pretty well equipped to deal with anything non-Vong, although they can deal with the latter. It also depends on the skill of the enemy. Jaden Korr, for example, is able to best a Sith cultitst with a lightsaber before he receives ANY Jedi Training, and proceeds to hack down Cult Members left and right while still a Padawan

The greatest threats, however, are still overwhelming numbers and surprise, such as the case in SW: Legacy.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Too be a peacekeeper In a galaxy as dangerous as the Star Wars one wouldn't it make sense to have martial skill?

TechHater
TechHater

Non-protagonist Jedi are fallible, as fragile as any other meatbag, and can be killed with enough dakka, but they still absolutely shouldn't be underestimated by your party. Bring lots of guns. Bring lots of friends. Bring lots of friends with guns.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Not if you're retarded as the average Jedi apparently

5mileys
5mileys

Yeah, hence they get some but that's not their primary job. Most have enough for anything short of a full on war, which is something the Republic hadn't seen in a long time. It's like judging a car based on it's ability to run people over, you can use it for that but you're not really judging it based on it's primary uses or full potential.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Holy canolli, that things amazing. I wish I'd see more of those fuckers.
300m long
still packs almost 30 turbolasers and a dozen ion cannons, in addition to a full squadron of TIE's
oh, and it still also has room for 200 troops and 500 tons of cargo in addition to the 660 crew
You're probably going to be packed in there like sardines, but you could accidentally take over a fucking moon with it alone and get pick fights with much larger ships. This thing's like the Venator of patrol craft.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

The republic hasn't seen a Galatic War in a long time but I am pretty sure they had plenty of small wars and disputes before the Clone Wars started.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Well, they're peacekeepers, but they aren't actually meant to be combatants. They're primarily just diplomats and people who come in and use their moral superiority to get people to stop being dicks.

You don't compare the average UN peacekeeper to a Navy Seal.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Pretty sure you'll never have children after working on that thing, with how big a reactor it needs to have in that small an area.

cum2soon
cum2soon

They're primarily just diplomats and people who come in and use their moral superiority to get people to stop being dicks.

That and their neutrality (Something that got massively compromised during the clone wars). They could speak to both sides because you could trust them to stay out of it personally.

likme
likme

I think it was Kit Fisto who said in TCW that there hadn't been fighting of the scale of the Clone Wars since the days of the Old Republic. That to me implies that yeah there's been some fighting, but nothing huge. In fact, I mentioned this last thread.

The Jedi are basically there to prevent conflicts from ever reaching the size of the Clone Wars - obviously they failed, but they had an insidious threat working in the background to make absolutely sure they failed in their duties.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Yeah, they did have battles and wars they participated from time to time (pic related)
With the Clone War, however, they had to act as generals and deal with engagements on a much larger scale than any their generation had dealt with before. They're also not used to opponents as dangerous as the enemies they face in the Clone Wars either (even at Galidraan, they lose the vast majority of their forces to the Mandos, who, particularly Jango Fett, put up a much harder fight than expected).

RumChicken
RumChicken

The average UN peacekeeper isn't exactly a telekinetic space samurai. Just because they're diplomats first, doesn't mean they aren't still capable of fucking up a room full of battle droids or Hutt-employed thugs. The only ones who could really be considered non-threats would be the average Niman practitioners. They may not be experienced in warfare and grand strategy but they'd still be incredibly dangerous foes in personal combat.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Is that a video-game cutscene?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Well, it's only got a Class 2 Hyperdrive, so I reckon that's where they make their cuts in order to make the thing operational. It's basically just a bunch of guns strapped together with a hanger and a fuckton of berths. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the porcupine-like fucker didn't steer by shooting.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Er, meant for

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Also apparently Pre Vizsla fought at Galidraan for the True Mandalorians

???

I think the artist fucked up

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

test

RumChicken
RumChicken

I wish I hated Star Wars as much as you do.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Vizla is the Smith of Mandalorian names

TechHater
TechHater

With plenty of shore leave to let the locals know that you mean well, I hope

FastChef
FastChef

New Republic
Grab a Nebulon-B2 called the Second Chance as my primary ship and a couple of Corellian Gunships. Fighter complement will be standard X-Wings. Station myself at Kothlis so there's plenty of time to enjoy the sun and surf.

Imperial Remnant
A Gladiator SD if that counts called the Myrmidon backed up by a couple of Lancers and carrying Defenders and missile boats. Post up at Dubrillion.

5mileys
5mileys

I'm assuming Pre is related to Tor Vizsla, considering they're both wielders of the Darksaber and heads of Death Watch. Pre Vizsla even has Tor's emblem on his serape.

Still, it's possible Pre started as a True Mandalorian but restarted Death Watch to oppose Satine's regime.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Boy am I glad that background shots like that have never bothered me. The only shot in the entire series that I find legit unpleasant to look at is in AotC when Obi-wan, Mace, and Yoda are talking inside the Jedi Temple.

girlDog
girlDog

Silliness.

The Old Republic Jedi were killed by line soldiers in droves (as evidenced by the Mandalorian wars) and were literally all wiped put down to a small handful by the Sith before KOTOR2.

There is nothing that points to old republic Jedi being better warriors then PT ones. The weakness of the prequel Jedi is of a spiritual nature.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Not much of a shot as it is the effects but Commander Gree in ROTS is fucking egregious

massdebater
massdebater

Hot opinion- out of the first six Star Wars movies, the only one that I would say that at least significant portions feel unfinished is RotS.
RotS has some 10/10 moments but boy oh boy, half the plot/dialogue, especially in the second half, feels almost amateur.
I loved the PT as a kid and still do for the most part, but when Yoda just up and LEFT the fight with Palp that it seemed like he was beginning to have a chance at winning, I knew the movie needed more script passes.

I love RotS, but I could have loved it so much more if GL had delayed it until Christmas 2005 to finish the script.
TPM feels finished, AotC feels mostly finished (other the the giant Jango Fett with Dooku should have raised more suspicion problem), but RotS feels like George was driving a train that would derail if he took his hand off for even a second.

I would say that while the composting in that scene is bad, I actually really like the look of the interior of the temple.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Oh yeah I remember most of the CG looking great to me as a 10 year old, but something about such a natural looking thing (grassy camo) must make the CG look more fake to the mind.
That or that shot just has low quality CG for some reason.

eGremlin
eGremlin

I wish I hated Star Wars as much as you do.

Well, keep practicing and you'll make it. It's worth the effort.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Those are routine planet-side patrol missions, strictly to keep the peace of course. Especially in the brothels and bars, known locations of Rebel spies and informants.

w8t4u
w8t4u

I wouldn't consider the Mandos line soldiers. Plus it's the Jedi Crusaders who turn the tide of the war against the Mandalorians

A small handful of Sith

More like specific Jedi Hunters. Barring monstrosities like Darth Sion and Darth Nihilus, you also had the section Atton was working for (specifically trained to capture, torture, and kill Jedi). The Sith Assassins are also presumably specially trained to take down Jedi.

You also have to remember how many Jedi perished in the Jedi Civil War, mostly at the hands of Dark Jed (you know, former Jedi), etc.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I mean, irl, for some reason, male police officers like to go undercover in strip clubs.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I would say that while the composting in that scene is bad, I actually really like the look of the interior of the temple.
Ya I think the look GL went for really fits the temple, but technology just wasnt ready to make it come alive.

Snarelure
Snarelure

and were literally all wiped put down to a small handful by the Sith before KOTOR2.

Well, not entirely. The Jedi, like the Republic, had been beaten down by three major galactic wars within 50 years prior to KotOR 2. A major theme of that game is how weakened the galaxy is by so much heavy warfare in such a short period of time. The Jedi were probably in low numbers by the end of the Jedi Civil War as it is, between the number of Jedi that fell to the dark side, in addition to those that died during active fighting.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I'm imagining a rebel and imperial in a backwater system both their bosses don't care much about turning up to play darts every week and talk shit so they've got something for reports.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

That's a good idea for some writefagging

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

And female officers like to go undercover as prostitutes. Sometimes you have to disguise yourself as criminal scum in order to catch them.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I can't find it, but I seem to remember that in the Battle of Geonosis, there was a scene where they were taking down the Core ships and one of the clone troopers in a shot was just legitimately bugged out and spazzing erratically, but I think they fixed it in the home release.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

That might be some Mandela effect shit, user, because I know exactly what you're talking about but I didn't see it when I checked a couple Youtube videos.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I can see that as being like the relationship between Azreal and Crowley in Good Omens.
Nothing happens out there, it's not an important system, and everything goes smoother if both of them are doing their jobs but not well enough the higher ups think they'll win.
The Imperials will wave through a shipment of Rebel weapons, the Rebels will let it get stolen back next week, the wheels keep turning. Sometimes the Imperial will disable his own facilities as "sabotage" when the Rebels aren't doing so well, that kind of thing. The two support each other out of a shared laziness to not actually have to do any work and get their men killed for pointless reasons.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

"Oh dear, the rebels have disabled our communication systems. This will take days to fix."
Turns off the screen, goes to the pub.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

"The Imperials have caught our latest shipment of rations. We'll have to get it locally. No, we can handle ourselves, don't use any resources on us."
Turns off communicator, goes to the pub.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

"Oh no, the Imperials have seized those shipments of rocket launchers you sent us. We will likely need more."
Counts the kickback that the Imperial captain gave him for them, proceeds to lose it right back in a game of sabaac

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

What are some relatively famous vehicles that aren't in any movies? I'm talking like the Headhunter.

Firespawn
Firespawn

do you choose?
Working for crazy cat lady and the peaceniks or the fucking retarded Imperials who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery?

This is not a choice, this is a living hell!

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

locals notice that so long as both groups stay lazy and complacent, they stay safe from the raging civil war.
intentionally shoo away serious rebel commanders by insisting that a big revolt is happening at some point, keep the Imperials happy by self-imprisoning rebel "supporters"
booze and booty for all.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Choose the third path, user. Choose Corellia.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Is Corellia basically space America?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Have something infamous

Nojokur
Nojokur

Oh shit, an inspector is coming to check out what's going on here in person.
You'll need to work out how to pull a fast one on him.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

TIE Defender
Ebon Hawk
Virago

I would say the Outrider but a YT-2400 does appear in the Special Edition of ANH

farquit
farquit

So, I'm assuming everyone has seen this?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

This sounds like the comfiest system to be in during the GCW

takes2long
takes2long

It's just a backwater planet that's basically filled with a three-way of Hogan's Heroes all working to keep one another as lazy and non-confrontational as possible while occasionally managing to get minor victories so that the higher ups don't start asking questions.
Sometimes some plans for a shipment of starfighters to the Rebels from the Corporate Sector gets leaked. Sometimes Imperial scientists are 'forcibly abducted.'

iluvmen
iluvmen

This sounds like Hogan's Heroes if both sides were in on it

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Anytime you get to say the phrase "Hogan's Heroes," you are doing the GCW properly for a comfy campaign.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

The Rebels stage a "daring" attempted coup that the Imperials "foil".
The Rebel prisoners say under "torture" that there's going to be another minor move that could disrupt their whole operations next week!
"We'll handle it inspector, don't you worry - you know how it is with these Rebels, slow goings, but we're getting there."
The 'torture' was in fact a notoriously bad holovid the guards and prisoners watched together. Both would attest it was indeed torture, even through all their piss-taking of it.

StonedTime
StonedTime

This sounds like Hogan's Heroes if both sides were in on it

Both of them were. It's revealed in the final episode when, after the war, the head of the camp sends Hogan a nearly complete map of the underground tunnels. Hogan's Heroes is also the title of the book he wrote about it.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Stormtrooper patrol "accidentally" drops a datapad saying how they're going to launch an attack on a suspected rebel hideout
It's actually just an old warehouse
Rebels sit on the ridge with some beers and watch the fireworks with some other off duty imperials

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Goddamnit, I want to play this shit so badly.

Also, Hogan's Heroes mind. Random fact, numerous actors in that show were actually Germans that suffered under the Reich. Schultz actually lost most of his family to the Holocaust.

Booteefool
Booteefool

The holovid was, in fact, one of the few remaining copies of the Littlest Ewok Life-Day special. It was so bad that the creator had nearly destroyed every copy of it after it's release. It was used for anyone too stupid to realize to not rock the boat too much. Or out of boredom

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I was going to say the CIS will rise again, but fuck it. I'm going to deliver these space salami's to desperate bitches in the outer rim.

Sort of, its kind of like space Texas, with space otters and hamsters in the other bits

happy_sad
happy_sad

They start reflecting on why they joined up with their various sides
For one of the Rebels, it was to stick it to mom and dad
For another, some Stormtrooper had given him an undeserved parking ticket at some point
For the Imps, one just wanted to dick the space babes of the galaxy one shore leave at a time
Another Imp is there because his friends got him to enlist while blackout drunk.

w8t4u
w8t4u

One or both sides hire a local amateur filmmaker to rig the local spaceport up as the set of an action holodrama to fool the inspectors
Prop gore, hidden noisemakers, controlled demolitions
Fake bloodstains and scorch marks painted on the sides of buildings
Some actor in a Jedi costume waves a toy lightsaber around before getting ventilated by a stormtrooper wielding a prop DLT-19 that fires blanks

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Dreadnaughts and Victories are pretty prolific in second-line Republic and Imperial fleets but haven't even been featured or mentioned in the cartoons.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Don't forget your requisite Irresponsible Captain Tylor.
youtube.com/watch?v=VamVIOKdK6s
When you join the military, ALL YOUR FOOD IS FREE!

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

"And then, of course, I ended up here. Ilnias, the worst position for any Imperial or Rebel in the entire galaxy, where nobody gains any ground and every success is hollow. One trade route in, no major exports, and absolutely 0 tactical significance. And still, NO space babes! Well, except for you Tes."
"Oh sure, hit on the togruta. It's against the rules to fraternise with the enemy, lieutenant."
"Indeed. Good thing we're both pinned down by heavy explosive ordinance to prevent such a situation. Want another drink?"

Spamalot
Spamalot

The Rebels intercept this communication and through their fuzzy photos assume an actual Jedi is in danger
They send a group of specialists and an actual Jedi to go pull him out
The Imperials and Rebels both have to pull out all the stops to try and convince the visiting Jedi that their "phantom Jedi" has in fact gotten off planet with the help of the local Rebel cell.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Holy shit this entire situation is so comfy it's unfair

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

An Irresponsible Captain Tylor campaign would be top fucking tier. Where the recurring antagonists are mostly your own ship's second-in-command and the admiralty.
youtube.com/watch?v=zcXF16DZxIU

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

After coming into secret documents about an Imperial super weapon that will win the war
Rebel commandos break into the Empires facility and steal the breakers from their air conditioning unit
Swearing none will see next week alive, the base commander issues his now infamous 'beach patrol edict'
Never in the history of the conflict has one beach and its harbour been defended as heavily and drunkenly as this

hairygrape
hairygrape

This would be a comfy TV show.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

well major, looks like space asutralian politics all right, so the real question is who you vote for

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

New Rebel gets deployed there
In the pub on break
Stormtrooper walks in so he pulls a gun
His CO grabs him and holds him back
"OI OI that's my mate Tighe don't shoot him"
He gets taken on a tour of the town where everyone is playing volleyball and having barbecue

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

It basically already has been, except its a Rebel cell operating out of an Imperial prison facility.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

a world where both sides "fight" but really wouldn't mind sharing beers with each other

I want this comfiness and know we'll never get it.

Nojokur
Nojokur

I'm dying man. Top kek and top comfy

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Months later, the air conditioning was sabotaged in the Rebel facility as "payback"
This led to the "It's too bloody hot for this" contingency.
The rebels have never been known to fight shirtless, but desperate times called for desperate measures during a series of skirmishes with Imperial forces at a nearby lake.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

and an actual Jedi
Turns out it's Luke fucking Skywalker himself
And he knows what's going on
He plays along anyway because he's tired and needs a breather and a drink

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Of course not. Did you know that Stormtroopers on shore leave would regularly round up puppies and kill them? TIE pilots were also known for randomly barging into houses when not on duty and stabbing people to death. All members of the Empire were Drumpf-supporting Nazi bigots. That's why we cheer when they get murdered!

viagrandad
viagrandad

Fuck Disney and fuck Kathleen.

massdebater
massdebater

This just in user! Fun is no longer allowed with Star Wars, it must be inclusive to the exclusion of quality story telling. Disney has commanded it, so it shall be.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Every Imperial promptly shits themselves when he uses the force to open the door to their facility
They don't get their guns out, just stare at him as he walks up to the commander.
He reaches into his cloak - everyone is expecting the saber activation noise.
There's a slight hissing as Luke cracks open a can and puts it on the table, gets another for himself, sits down and just sighs contently, putting his feet up on the table.
"So, anybody here fly T-16's?"

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

He plays along anyway because he's tired and needs a breather and a drink
"You guys would never believe what a crazy dream I had. I was drinking green milk from some weird manatee creature and Yoda was being a cheeky fucker and setting things on fire. Isn't that crazy?"
"Nothing beer and brats can't fix, rebel scum," says one of the stormtroopers wearing his helmet and swim trunks, tossing Luke a cold one.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

from the beginning the stormtroopers were the psychotically dedicated political-infantry fanatics, but the Imperial Army (who were occasionally dressed in stormtrooper armor with different hats, FWIW) were a rather less crazy organization
Think NKVD Infantry and Waffen SS compared to the regular armies of various nations

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Miss him yet?

TechHater
TechHater

Thanks, focus groups!

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

wearing his helmet and swim trunks
I like the idea that the Imperials routinely wear their helmets in addition to just regular ass clothing so if ever they have to answer the communicator or something they can look official but don't have to put on the bodygloves or anything.
The commander has answered 3 calls from Imperial command without wearing any trousers to date.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I've missed him since TFA came out. George was as shitty anyone is when surrounded by an echo chamber that just lets him do whatever he wants, but even then he still was capable of some really fun world-building. The fact we live in an time when the Prequels are no longer the worst Star Wars movies is staggering. And the fact that the films are just getting shittier and shittier with time goes on? Kill me.

King_Martha
King_Martha

who you vote for
Barnaby's Benis, the most famous untethered benis in all of the land.
we're all getting fucked by it one way or another... it never fucking ends!

Having distracted the rebel forces with a decoy BBQ
Imperial's send in Sneaky Troopers to shave the Rebel's bantha mascot
Old Bessie isn't putting down milk for at least a week...

Spamalot
Spamalot

If the TCW tv show is anything to go by, the Prequels just needed a guiding hand to squeeze the blood out of those stones and we really could've had something special. We got some great things out of them. What have we got from the Disney lead movies thus far? 2 bad video games, and a "side story" movie nobody wanted and another prequel side-story movie no one wanted coming soon. I feel sick of it all.

Techpill
Techpill

Say what you will about the execution, he was at least TRYING to tell a sincere and dramatic story for the prequels. As opposed to bland corporate copypasta mixed with "lol subversion" and SJW signalling.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

The Rebel briefing room prior to Luke landing
"Oh shit guys, we've got to act all cool and stuff. Whatever you do, don't high-five the Imps when we show Luke around, and definitely don't take him to THE pub."

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Don't forget "Subverts your expectations" the movie. But at least Disney gets to keep selling Rey gummie vitamins and Kylo Ren Dole coleslaw mix.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

and we really could've had something special.
I think we have that.
They are uneven, but I maintain that TPM especially is no more clumsily made than ANH.
People think ANH is as slick as Empire these days or something.

Also TCW rarely rises above the best moments of the PT.
A the season 5 ending arc, the season six ending arc, Mortis, maybe the Geonosis arc, MAYBE the Moralo Eval arc.

TCW Anakin is a boring action man 90% of the time. He stand up too straight, especially in the early seasons. His voice is too Chad-like. He's too mature. Even if you insist that Anakin had to change, just take the idea of the PT character and write it better. Don't create a different character.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

"Can we take him to A pub?"
'Well of course we can take him to A pub, we just don't take him to THE pub. Catt, have you cleaned up all the remains from game night? And the beer pong? Good. And somebody call the Commander and tell him we won't able to make it for the pazaak game this week, wouldn't want him thinking we'd stood him up.'

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

In the wake of the characterization that was missing in the original release that gets filled in with TCW, I honestly rank RotS up there with ANH and Empire, probably above or at least tied with RotJ. And being someone who got to grow up on BF1 and Republic Commando, I'd basically hardwired to love the shit out of clone troopers and clankers.

iluvmen
iluvmen

"So what do you guys do around here?" asks Luke to the Rebel and Imperial commanders who are hanging out on the beach.
"Well mostly, we pretend to rebel."
"And we pretend to oppress them."

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

tfw it'll be at least three years before the possibility of having prequel era content be added to Legion

askme
askme

They'll most likely add stuff from the Rebells show and Ewoks before anything from the prequel era

Old trilogy nostalgia grogs were a mistake.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

tfw it'll be at least three years before the possibility of having prequel era content be added to Legion

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I'm not sure if I would rather see prequel Armada or prequel Legion first.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

not wanting to play separatists
desu painting battle droids alone would be worth it

Techpill
Techpill

I like the clankers, but I would also like to see various organic militias for both sides. The enormous variety of troops is a big draw for me compared to the Galactic Civil war.

Methshot
Methshot

Also TCW rarely rises above the best moments of the PT.
lol

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

it seems weird for the rebels to have a heavy tracked rocket artillery

some kind of very fast and light mini-artillery sounds more fitting with the rebel MO than a big cumbersome tank

think closer to a GLA rocket buggy instead of the SCUD
fast, small, and yet delivers a long range and powerful payload that outranges the enemy
the hailfire comes to mind, but its not so much a vehicle as a giant droid

RumChicken
RumChicken

Aside from Geonosians and Niemodians (who didn't fight) what else is there? Gossams? I mean there was a reason they used droids, dude.

FastChef
FastChef

The Umbarans were pretty great. And fairly original.

MPmaster
MPmaster

more cgi clone wars stuff
I really gotta get around to watching that

SniperGod
SniperGod

It's pretty good most of the time. Umbara is one of its high points.

cum2soon
cum2soon

There were some good militia action in the cartoon clone wars series.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

This talk of systems defence forces made me remember on thing: has there been a map or something that showed how much of the galaxy didn't belong to the Republic in the pre-Clone Wars era? IIRC the Tapani joined them only about 1,000 years before, for example.

FastChef
FastChef

I recently started playing Empire at War, and Maulers are the bane of my existence.

Anyways, threadly Armada post.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Trandoshans, at least in Republic Commando. They seem to be more neutral aligned in other media.
Quarrens as aquatic fighters on Dac
Kerkoiden

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

The BX serieres commandos. While after some time I can appreciate them as kinda cool, I always felt they were a bit dumb.

The B2 series was supposed to be the new and improved battle droid, better, stronger, and smarter in every way. But the Clone Wars started making them seem dumber or slower than the B1 for some reason (already a huge feat) turning them from "the new and improved battle droid" to "big giant retards with bigger guns and armor".

I really feel like the B2s should have been the basis for a commando series. Sure they would have been bulkier (though really not by much if we go by film proportions) but they also would have been deadlier

TreeEater
TreeEater

Reasons that the Droids should've been the Republic Army, while the Clones should've been the hostile faction:
Sheev needed an army that was unerringly loyal to him (to the point that they just fucking put computer chips in the clones anyways) in order to kill the Jedi and assume control of the Republic
Manpower is cheap for a galactic civilization, but military industrial manufacturing capacity is valuable
Jedi would've had a moral issue with killing sentients by the busload, contributing to and/or making them deserve their downfall
It's called "The Clone Wars" and "Attack of the Clones", both of which make it sound like the Clones are the bad guys
The separatist worlds and sentiment would've been even more hostile to an even more oppressive Empire, and so should've been brought under control ASAP
Clones are innately a more frightening prospect than incompetent robots (and all Star Wars robots are incompetent) as an enemy to scare and scar the Republic
Easier to deactivate and retire with fewer loose ends after the launch of the Stormtrooper corps
Jedi leading as generals and fighting as front line troops makes more sense when the army is composed of semi-mindless drones as opposed to entirely competent commanders and infantry
Jedi aligning with cold soulless robots against living, breathing humans would've thematically contributed to the sterile/arrogant PT Jedi Order
Greater paranoia, as anyone you meet could be a clone or even an imposter, if the enemy used a wide variety of DNA
The Empire's focus on big ships over fighters would've paralleled the Droid army's use of autonomous fighters, as the Navy wouldn't have a tradition of pilots and spacecraft to lean on when transitioning to the TIE corps
The galaxy hating clones would justify recruiting Stormtroopers rather than just cloning more bodies

But Lucas is a hack and/or too much of a coward to have the heroes kill people

idontknow
idontknow

You're about sixteen years late and I disagree with everything you wrote, my man

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I'm in favor of Droids and was discussing their merits over a stormtrooper army last thread, but this is a lot to swallow and I don't agree with a lot of it.

Ultimately I'm not sure how exactly concieve the same situation of the Clone Wars as is with the Republic fielding droids without having Palps do some massive reworking of the entire basis of the Clone Wars and the Jedi, also it feels like Clones would be even more susceptible to force shenanigans than the droids were .

desu its not because of any story or improvement to plot element, but the potential for droids as a technology, weapon, and hell as a form of self sustained economy greatly outpace anything the Empire could have done with forced organic labour like they did or the EU republics greedy political backstabing that was only moderately better than CIS greedy political backstabbing.

If you could get the ultimate centralization of the Empire in one strong figure, combine it with the limitless potential of robots, and figure out a way to not have a massive asshole like Palpy at the top of the pyramid, you would have a mighty force to be reckoned with. Or at least, a force which costs less of the lives of the galaxy when defending it from the Vong.

---

On a similar clone related topic, I think it would have been interesting to see what Jango and Boba would have done if he lived. I feel like Jango would not have tried to kill his own clones and would have likely defected to the Republic's side, and end up leading the troopers. He had a hand in instilling mandalorian ideals and establishing part of their training IIRC.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Jango
Highly unlikely, imo. He'd have appeared in the Mandalore arcs fighting for the Loyalists due to his hate-boner against the Death Watch, but he wouldn't be climbing into bed with the Republic. He'd appear as an "Oh, it's Jango!" character the Mandalore arcs of Satine and Maul but never be seen outside of that. Maybe replace toss in a Jango+Boba arc as a bonus.

Mandalorians largely didn't see Clones as their brothers.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Jango Fett isn't a Mandalorian in canon (really, it started with TCW, so it's not just something that the Story Group decided). His only real link to their culture is the armor.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Jaden
Vidya protags really aren't the best way to gauge power levels I don't think.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

The Lego force awakens game has permanently altered how I see both the resistance and the FO. where the numbskullery of the rank and file members of both sides is played for laughs (stormtroopers taking constant selfies, resistance technicians using the engines of and x-wing to cook breakfast)

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Holy bantha poodoo, Concord Dawn! Only Mandos and Bumshows come from Concord Dawn, Jango Fett!

w8t4u
w8t4u

What part of the Jedi are supposed to be in the wrong in the PT don't you understand?

Skullbone
Skullbone

Pablo has gone and said that while Jango isn't a Mandalorian, he has on occasion claimed to be from Concord Dawn.

However, it was George himself who said that Jango isn't a Mandalorian. Look up the Creating Mandalore featurette from TCW Season 2.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

George also told them that Starkiller's name was either Dark Icky or Dark Insanius.

happy_sad
happy_sad

George is also noted as having a deadpan joke style. They didn't get that he was joking.

Bidwell
Bidwell

That was to drive the point home that he did not want starkiller to have a sith name, and they were not taking no for an answer.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Darth Insanius is a joke
Darth Sidious and Darth Tyrannus are real things

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

In a way the comical potrail makes it all bearable, I wonder if leg LJ will be any good, but I suppose they are waiting to cap off the new trilogy

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I have not heard anything about a LJ game even being made. Which hurts

cum2soon
cum2soon

I always did like the old school Sith lords and the whole "Means Something Spoopy If You Put In- at the beginning. It's retarded, but it's also kinda neat.
INsidious
INvader
Kinda wish they'd kept that.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Again they might be holding out for the new trilogy to be finished

Methnerd
Methnerd

Don't forget Hux's aerobics class. Or his ice cream cone.

I'm honestly excited for the Lego TLJ game, if only to see what wacky shit they do for Holdo.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Considering the latter are directly tied to their roles as an insidious force, a "phantom menace" if you will, and Tyrannus is literally where we get the word tyrant from... they're both acceptable.

Insanius is literally a joke name. This has been proven over and over. He was joking, they didn't get it.

Evilember
Evilember

Why would they possibly be doing that when they already pumped out Lego TFA?

WebTool
WebTool

Could the even do it if they wanted with the new EA mono liscence?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Also an actually good boss fight with phasma, if le

Nojokur
Nojokur

They're actually rumored to be cutting EA loose in retaliation for all the bad press they were stuck with in the wake of EAfront 2. So it's pretty likely that Disney will be saddling all Star Wars games with either Ubisoft or Activision sometime this year.

Supergrass
Supergrass

EA could contract the game out to them if they got to publish, but the last one was developed when that contract was in effect already, so it is all a mystery.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

EA had the license before TFA. They got a 10 year contract just a couple months after the sale to Disney was finalized.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Borked my post, my second sentence was "if lego indy can give sword man a good fight anything is possible"

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

dialogue remains serious as Holdo is shown gazing over constellation charts like it's a fucking horoscope during the whole conversation

Skullbone
Skullbone

Ubisoft or Activision

cum2soon
cum2soon

The fact we have to "hope" for Ubisoft is depressing as fuck.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

And on a lark, what would happen if Devolver Digital gets the rights instead? What kind of games could we expect to see out of them?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

That bit where Holdo is uncomfortably close to Poe, but she's actually looking at a chart behind him

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Dark Broforces
Hotline Nar Shaddaa
I can dig it.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I almost want Paradox to get the license so I can get my grand strategy in space itch. Stellaris is way too 4x-ey for my liking

TechHater
TechHater

Disney ever turning over their franchise to people that might make risky or interesting design decisions instead of safe corporate AAA swill

JunkTop
JunkTop

I'd like to see Tindalos get the license to make a vidya adaptation of Armada with the Battlefleet Gothic engine. Something from Intelligent Systems would also be neat--maybe a Fire Emblem-flavored tactical RPG or the bastard child of Advance Wars and Legion.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

So you want a company to make a platform for content and release the other half of a game over the rest of the year because the main title is sorely lacking in content? Like almost every damn title Paradox has made lately?

Just give me Activision-Blizzard instead then, at least they'll be honest with their fucking.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

waaah games are too expensive
why isn't everything free
why does a game that's had 7 years of active development cost $120 (I just checked steam, don't try to correct me you fuck)

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Darth Invader
wtf I hate Lucas now

Supergrass
Supergrass

TCW has a lot of middling sludge my man.
Take the Mon Cala arc for example.
Minimal story, just never ending mediocre action. (nice art direction though).

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Well actually the proton torpedo artillery is fast in the game.

Or, faster than most Imperial units, save for the Maulers, Speederbikes and Fighters.

hailfire

Actually they make use of those too, or at least in Canon they do.

I think the creators of Empire At War just wanted to be creative with some of their unit types.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I thought Vader was more like Vater, so Dark Father

JunkTop
JunkTop

No. That's a misconception. Darth Vader was not intended to be anyone's parent until ESB.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

The Mon Calamari arc was one of the good ones in my opinion.

Riff Tamson really makes it shine and the Republic's victory over him is a very narrow one.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Eh, the arc drags on without enough dramatic tension IMO.
Tamson is cool, but Lee Char is kind of lame and again, just not enough plot happens besides fighting IMO.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Zsinj has been BTFO, the problem is so is Teradoc so the leader of Greater Maldrood left is... Tavira.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Still not sure how I survived this.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Nope. It was just a silly bit of wordplay that's actually pretty neat and spells out an easy naming convention for your own homebrew Sith Lords for various games that sound campy.
Darth Fidel
Darth Cision
Darth Cinerate
Darth Fection
Darth Cantare

FastChef
FastChef

Is this the 2.2 demo or a beta release I'm not aware of yet?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Darth Fidel
dios mio

MPmaster
MPmaster

Darth Fidel

Ayy

viagrandad
viagrandad

2.2 demo.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

And if you want, you can just Latinify that shit and now you've got Darth Fidelis, a twisted Sith lord whose major MO is twisting brothers against brothers and relishing in the bloodshed of insurrection and betrayal.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Darth Vincible
Darth Vulnerable
Darth Visible
Darth Defatigable
Darth Sufferable

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Generally, like with Vader and Sidious, you wanna pick words that aren't actually just plain ole recognizable words without the prefix. Hence shit like Incisor or Infection or Infidel.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Now you're projecting, I never said I wanted games to be free, but I do expect that there be a game somewhere on that disc if your charging 60 bucks up front. Besides, Stellaris is shit that has been "updated" with constant streams of dlc that another company like, say, Amplitude released as free updates with only major races or big content as dlc. Paradox has a problem with releasing half-baked ideas and coming back to it later rather than polishing it beforehand. Why don't you just admit you like taking it up the ass by smaller "indie" companies cause you like being contrarian.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

No, they're dumb names.

Darth Flammable
Darth Fest
Darth Famous
Darth Cest
Darth Jury
Darth Ception
Darth Flict
Darth Nuendo
Darth Dignity
Darth Genious
Darth Appropriate

likme
likme

an average day on a remote CIS garrison
youtube.com/watch?v=Hv6RbEOlqRo

Some work, some don't. Doesn't take a rocket scientist.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

No, they're dumb names.
I fail to see how Sidious is significantly more dumb than Vader.

Soft_member
Soft_member

How do you make a compelling story about a Sith acolyte without having him turn to the light? (He can be reasonably not a dick though)

The Old Republic era is fair game for this

Skullbone
Skullbone

If there was a Star Wars Celebrity Deathmatch, what matchups would you guys like to see?

SniperGod
SniperGod

Lucas versus JJ

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Hamill subverting Rian Johnson's expectations

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

It's been so long people have probably forgotten it ever happened, but apparently Natalie Portman was a complete dick to Kiera Knightly during Phantom Menace. So... catfight

Techpill
Techpill

Make him an unrepentant dick who loves his job. Villains who try to hide behind a facade of nobility have gotten tired and stale. At this point, a story about someone who embraces dickery and has fun with it would be a breath of fresh air.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

I really want to write this badly. But my skills are mediocre but I'd give it a decent shot.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Galactic Civil War, more like the Galactic Comfy War

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

An honorable Sith warrior, seeking to avenge the "oppression and persecution" of the Jedi.

Inmate
Inmate

Captain First Draft vs Chris Avellone

likme
likme

Midget Spalko commanding an entire starfleet

I have a bad feeling about this.

Nojokur
Nojokur

New Republic
Nebulon B Frigate called Hope or Equality or something properly Rebel gay like that
Galactic Empire
LANCER
A
N
C
E
R
I'd name it the Lancer
Cut through squadrons of rebel starfighters like, well, a lance

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Lucas is a hack and/or too much of a coward to have the heroes kill people
Literally watched an ep of the lucas-run prequel continuation last night where our secondary 'main' character decapitated four living breathing human beans with dubiously reasonable grievances and reason for being in their faction at the same time.
But okay.

likme
likme

He is a retarded shitposter. Probably a RLM fan too.

SniperGod
SniperGod

she managed to do this

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

A liberated Imperial Light Cruiser called the Reclamation. On duty to assist any mop up operations on Imperial controlled worlds.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Lance doesn't cut, dumbass.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

"called Hope or Equality or something properly Rebel gay like that"
literally names his Lancer "Lancer"

Nojokur
Nojokur

implying mandalorians are people

Bidwell
Bidwell

That's enough, Jedi scum!

takes2long
takes2long

I'll take one of those space superiority Victory IIs, and it has to have one of those fancy RN names... call it the Implacable. I'll go for any fleet that has Pellaeon in command.

And speaking of Vics, are those suspiciously silo-looking things between the "wings" the Vic I's famed torpedo launchers? Because I can feel the BURNING DESTROYER SPIRIT coursing through me.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Shit, forgot to point out the Vic:

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

And speaking of Vics, are those suspiciously silo-looking things between the "wings" the Vic I's famed torpedo launchers?
Yep, all 80 of them (or 20x4 depending on what source it is).

Because I can feel the BURNING DESTROYER SPIRIT coursing through me.
I've always had a soft spot for Victory 1s because of that, if only they didn't have anemic engines. Victory 2s fixed that but also took away any character the Vic 1s had and just made them manlet Star Destroyers.

WebTool
WebTool

Yeah, those are heavy missile silos.

idontknow
idontknow

Tatooine under Pellaeon.

Victory Star Destroyer I (classed as frigate-sized by ImpNavy standards), "Centurion"

Techpill
Techpill

That's a questionably large bulge

Booteefool
Booteefool

Victory 2s fixed that but also took away any character the Vic 1s had

If only they had simply put the bigger engines in a Vic I's hull and left the torpedos intact. The sheer awesomeness of manoeuvring for a shot and launching a gigantic torpedo salvo would have me jumping up and down on the bridge.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Yeah VicStar II was just a midget ISD. Apparently there's also a Galactic Alliance edition of the VSD, which I'd say is the VicStar III. My headcanon says it looks like this.

massdebater
massdebater

I've always been a fan of the whole railguns and missile spam dynamic when it comes to space combat and while the former doesn't really fit into Star Wars I always wondered why capital ship missile spam wasn't really seen more considering how viable it seems to be as a tactic.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

$499 lol get fucked
hasbrolab.com
1211 confirmed retards in the world with more money than sense. You don't even get one!

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

fan accessible decks that complement 3.75-inch figures (not included)
(not included)
Wew, for $500 you might as well throw in a couple.

TreeEater
TreeEater

The IGBC and Corporate Alliance made use of mercenaries to augment their forces

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

I want my Namco Bandai-produced starfighters game, goddamnit.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Mostly because missiles are a close range weapon type in star wars, and getting a capital ship in close enough to another capital ship to make it work would be very hard on the ships doing jt

Soft_member
Soft_member

Thy is there so much unused space on SW warships. That's a lot of hull for a relatively small battery

TreeEater
TreeEater

Because Star Wars weapons are powered by the reactor of the ship

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Because ships in star wars and most space opera are form first, Function second

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Rebels has had a rocky run, but its highs were very high.
Here's hoping the end of season 4 delivers "Twilight of The Apprentice" tier goods.

I'm creaming myself over the Mortis idea being continued. Those eps of TCW were what made me realize how ambitious TV Star Wars could be, and I never thought they would be revisited after TCW got cancelled.
will Ahsoka come back?
will Ezra and Kanan join Ahsoka on Mortis and will that be the focus of Filoni's next show?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Have they confirmed there will be a new show?

Illusionz
Illusionz

Rebels has had a rocky run, but its highs were very high

I disagree, many of the high points were marred by poor execution. Worse, they wasted time introducing elements that were then abandoned or underused.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I miss the comfy small scale of S1, but I am really interested in what Filoni is building to

5mileys
5mileys

I was basically JUST talking about Ahsoka finally confronting Vader. Their dialogue and brief fight gave me chills like the ending of RotJ does.
Anakin...

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I'll give you the dialogue, but that they didn't give us more fight or a conclusive end to it disappointed me. Throwing in the sabre copters, Maul being vanquished with a cheap fall, and the abrupt end of all inquisitorial presence in Rebels does not help either.

TreeEater
TreeEater

I think you're just cynical.
I don't judge things by their failings as much as their highs.
Because failings are everywhere but great highs are rare (in media).
I take what I can get. And I can get good things out of Rebels.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Darth Trovert

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

He's not even close to an introvert. He makes Rey's pussy wet with his masculine confidence.

5mileys
5mileys

He was a total introvert in TFA.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Inky and Kanan in season 1
Grand moff tarkin executing the lovable idiots that the rebels had been running circles around
The final fight between Inky and Kanan, with Kanan declaring he no longer has any reason to be afraid
The Season 2 opener with Vader absolutely decimating the team
Getting to see OG clones join with the rebellion and fight the good fight
Going into the star cluster with Zeb
The Zeb and Kallus episode
the season 2 finale with everything that happens in it
THRAWN BACK AND KICKING ASS
an actually good sabine episode in trials of the darksaber
the music of the show in general
Seeing the defender fly in an actual piece of star wars media
DID I MENTION THRAWN IS HERE??
Possibly my favorite saber fight in any piece of star wars media between Obi Wan and Maul

its had its downs, but man have I loved its ups.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

nah

Evilember
Evilember

The most relatable Sith.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

relatable
Yeah man, my dad was bummed when I stabbed him.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

MPTLs are just odd. It does not make any sense to fire a barrage of proton torpedos like that for any other reason than killing fucking capital ships. Especially for an organization that needs to prioritize funds as much as the rebel alliance does.
And even then the mptls main strength in-game is anti-infantry for some reason.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Gameplay >>>> lore

But why make it torps in the first place is beyond me

MPmaster
MPmaster

Does my cynicism excuse the shortcomings of their writers?
Rhetorical question: it does not.
It's less a matter of the things they did wrong, and more a matter of the opportunities they wasted.
They bring back Rex and then criminally under use him.
They introduce Sato's nephew, and then have him conspicuously absent when Sato sacrifices himself.
They reveal and entire planet of Lasat and don't show them, don't have them contribute anything off screen, and don't mention them ever again.
The list goes on and on. I can forgive the saber copters, Ezra shrugging off a 600kph collision with a TIE, and the hyperspace wolves, but I won't forgive wasted plotlines and sloppy story telling. Fillioni and Co are being paid to write this and we KNOW they can do better than this based on part work, so why give them a pass for half assing it?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

A mk2 Assault Frigate

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

waaaaahhhh it's less then perfect, that means it's terrible!

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

He never said that. It's terrible largely because of wasted plots that go nowhere. For example Ezra's temptation to the darkside, which in the end turns out to be a whole bunch of nothing.

If you are going to defend this shit at least don't resort to greentext strawman because you are too lazy/stupid to respond to his critiques

Methnerd
Methnerd

So people got the new source book early: community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/253925-dawn-of-rebellion-sourcebook/?page=23

Species: Gigoran, Drabatan, Tognarth, and Iakaru
Universal Specs: Force Adherent, Imp Academy Cadet, Padawan Survivor, Pirate, Retired Trooper, Ship captain
Statblocks for Maul, Grand Moff Tarkin, Shelish, Krennic, Saw Gerrera, Governor Price, Commandant Aresko, Ryder Azadi, Senator Trayvis, Grand Admiral Thrawn, Agent Kallus, Darth Vader, Grand Inquisitor, Bail Organa, Mon Mothma, Ahsoka Tano, Commander Jun Sato, Kanan, Hera (Ghost, Phantom I, Phantom II), Chopper, Zeb, Sabine, Captain Rex, Ezra, Cikatro Vizago, Cham Syndulla, Numa, Fenn Rau, Azmorigan, Hondo, Ketsu Onyo, Lando Calrissian.
Ships/vehicles: U Wings, Hammerheads (actually says it’s designed to be used in ramming), Arquitens, Fang Fighters, the tank from Jedha, Auzituck Class Gunship (Wookiee), Delta Shuttle, TIE/MG (Mining Guild), Kestrel, Prototype B6, Zeta Class Heavy Cargo Shuttle, TIE Striker

Of note: Vader has actual stats rather than "you die" like in the published adventure

Emberfire
Emberfire

Fucking NICE.

Interesting there's so much new shit but we're reprinting Fang Fighters.

Also hey, here's your first whisper of Imperial support, there's a universal spec now.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Species: Gigoran, Drabatan, Tognarth, and Iakaru

Literally who?

Ships/vehicles: U Wings
Yessss

Hammerheads
Yesssssssss

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Tognarth
Yes!!!!

Booteefool
Booteefool

Gigorian

These guys, apparently originally from a WEG adventure back in the day.

Tognath

See

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

the music of the show in general

I'm not a big fan of Rebels, but even I'll admit the soundtrack is pretty dope.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Whoops, forgot my image.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Holy shit, time to see how Hera is stated up so we can see how she makes the Ghost dance in this system.

Everyone in Rogue One and Rebels got stats though wow.

Methshot
Methshot

Iakaru

Bistan's species, a primitive jungle people.

Drabatan

This fucking guy.

TreeEater
TreeEater

If she does not have at least 4 ranks of piloting (space) I will sent many angry letters to FFG

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

youtube.com/watch?v=ydIaUx84HWs

You get to cut loose with the music in the shows. Thrawn's various themes are also nice.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I wonder if the Ghost is sil 5 still

King_Martha
King_Martha

What's this about warlords using Lucrehulks and Providence-class

Where can I sign up?

Spamalot
Spamalot

not one, but TWO Interdictors
You madman, teach me your nazi obstacle shenanigans

5mileys
5mileys

5 credits says Hera has the talent that lets her treat it as SIL 4 so they can pretend they didn't put their foot in their dick there.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I've never played Armada, but I've only seen pics of Rebel vs Empire

Is there some sort of rule against same-faction battles?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Well they needed a variety of units, so some Clone Wars units are added in to show Warlords are stripped for cash. Greater Maldrood (Teradoc bros + Leonia Tavira) have Providences, Pentastar Alignment have Lucrehulks, Munificents and Venators. I think Zsinj has some Lucrehulks too, his are from the Corporate Sector though. Everyone has LAAT/i's, except for the Imperial Remnant which has a more modern version. Pic related.

cum2soon
cum2soon

No, and tournaments will inevitably have same faction fights.

SniperGod
SniperGod

I can't stand Sabine in the show and X-wing only amplifies my strong feelings towards her, but fucking hell her music themes are insanely good.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Shelish

starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Shelish

Alright...? I liking playing Uprising, but what an odd stat block to add.

massdebater
massdebater

Guy says that there are stats for the nightsisters in there, so I guess it made sense to throw Shelish in too

likme
likme

I like this return to WEG-style sourcebooks

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

wtf m8, you can't just fucking post that shit with no warning

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Ah cool, I like that they're pulling from everything they can. Reminds me of the old days now.

massdebater
massdebater

TR-8R was a full bossfight and level all to himself in Lego TFA, if I recall. The memes were strong with him.

RumChicken
RumChicken

fuck they have almost *everything* stated but there's no MC75

:(

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Why is the Nebulon so splindly? It seems really easy to sink once your breach its shields, just bisect it with turbolasers

farquit
farquit

have to make him dizy from all the spinning
They knew exactly what they were doing

Bidwell
Bidwell

Because it looks cool.

StonedTime
StonedTime

It doesn't even look like it was designed for forward combat to begin with, but Rebels being Rebels retrofitted it hastily into a warship.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Any word on the gear that'll be in it?

girlDog
girlDog

I found droid stuff in the link

Droid section is incredible. We get the KX Series (K2SO), the Mouse Droid, the ID-9 that Iden uses in Battlefront 2, IG-RM (offshoot of the IG Assassin droids), and a DTS Dismantler Droid.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Rebels
The Imps used it as a warship, too, though the most notable instance of its Imperial service was in the pocket carrier role rather than in straight-up ship-to-ship brawling.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Pride and joy: 1 starship or vehicle of sil 4 or larger that the character owns. Upgrade all social checks while within short range. (Can be transferred, cannot have two have same ship as target).

(Improved version) Whenever recovers strain, recover 1 additional if within Ship. May also spend adv to allow an ally within Ship to recover one.

(Supreme version) 1/session may reduce vehicle silhouette by two to a min of 0 for the remainder of the round and the following round. Only for purposes of combat and movement.

From the ship captain spec

Lunatick
Lunatick

Oh shit, they made a universal spec out of rigger, basically, only with a deliberate focus on large ships.

This is fucking great. Also that SIL reduction is bananas. That means your captain can treat a Nebulon-B like a fucking Light Freighter.

takes2long
takes2long

NEBULON-B DRIFTING
This is improbably silly

TreeEater
TreeEater

It's fucking great.

SniperWish
SniperWish

DO YOU LIKE MY SHIP?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

No new armor or gear, but it does have some blasters
DLT-19D Heavy Repeating Blaster Rifle
E-11 D Blaster Carbine
E-22 Blaster Rifle
MWC-35c Repeating Cannon (standard or single shot)
PB08 Heavy Blaster Pistol

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

What/who got you into Star Wars?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Birth

Dad saw it in 1977 and indoctrinated me

Spamalot
Spamalot

whole bunch of nothing
the fact it IS just a whole bunch of nothing is arguably the point given that despite his hate-boner for the imps he's still an empathetic person at heart and has a strong support net 'family'.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

My mom took me to see ANH Special Edition in theaters when I was five; she said it was the first movie I ever sat through quietly.

My cousin is what got me into the EU, though. I remember him having a bookshelf that was almost entirely Star Wars books. I especially remember the X-Wing series being there, although I don't remember how far in it was at the time.

I didn't start on those books though. First got into the Jedi Quest books when I was in fourth or fifth grade, which were young adult novels set between TPM and AotC. I remember liking them a lot, and those books really cemented in my mind what Jedi should be (protectors, investigators, diplomats, general peacekeepers; warriors only when necessary).

After that, I jumped into X-Wing and then on and on.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Watched the special editions with my father when they were first released on VHS, alongside of I.

II was the first I saw in theaters but III was the first one I remember seeing in theaters. (My memory of II was trying to peek through the doors to see the seismic charges go off again.)

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

No A280-CFE? That's a bit balls, though I'm glad to see the E-22.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Growing up watching the prequel. They're much more fun and interesting to watch than the boring, dirty OT if you aren't blinded by nostalgia. Old people can stick to their old things.

5mileys
5mileys

Hmm. I'm gonna give you a 6/10 on your trolling. The bait is really delicious, sure - but almost too good to be real.

Here's your (You) at least. You made a good effort and maybe someone else will bite.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Do you think that table makes the imperial officer's eyes hurt

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

in Coruscant

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

My mum was a fan, I watched the OT on VHS a lot as a kid, along with the Indiana Jones films.
Bought an old beat-up copy of WEG 2e when I was about ten, also started reading the Jedi Apprentice and Essential Guides from the library around then, bought the thrawn trilogy when I was about 14, then the X-wing series and HoT when I was 15 and down with pneumonia, found a huge pile of PDFs after that, rest is history from there

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

My parents got me a gamecube one christmas with Rogue Leader and Bounty Hunter. My dad had the OT on VHS in both Special Edition and Original formats and decided to introduce me to it then. Attack of the Clones was coming out during this time so I grew up immersed in both trilogies and I started branching out into EU stuff as I got older.

TechHater
TechHater

So since ware waxing nostalgic, my school had an artbook of star wars with a big emphasis on the dark horse comics. Dark empire was mentioned showing off just this page.

for he longest time I thought world devestators spewed polution on planets (which is why everything was so green), rather than consume everything, because this page was my only exposure to them for some time.

Emberfire
Emberfire

*incomprehensible arabic gibberish*
Jokes aside, what Star Wars language sounds the coolest/best?

Booteefool
Booteefool

uma delicia

idontknow
idontknow

Not at all, just tends to shake out that way because of people splitting a core set.

Well, actually, the Corellian Conflict campaign *is* Rebel verse Empire. So there's that also.

Inmate
Inmate

It's probably the first movie I recall seeing on home video. Before that, the only movies I had seen were Bug's Life and Disney's Hercules (which was the first movie I ever saw in a theater). It's probably 1999, around when TPM came out. I was being babysat by my grandparents, and they wanted to show me the original Star Wars. And as a kid, it was the first "grown up," live action movie I saw and that really stuck with me.

Methshot
Methshot

My older brother. He showed me ANH on VHS and gave me a handful of his Star Wars cards that he and some friends on the football team played and told me to point out when the things on the cards were on-screen since I was a little kid and it'd keep me focused and quiet during the movie. He did the same for the other two movies which we rented over the course of a week or so.

Holy shit, that card game was awesome. And the 90's were a weird time when linebackers were playing Star Wars cards.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Do Imperials have court martials?
Or is the commanding officer basically just judge, jury, and executioner?

Nojokur
Nojokur

And as a kid, it was the first "grown up," live action movie I saw
I fucking wish, user. I'm and the first "grown up" live action film I saw was the Rocky Horror picture show at something like 7 because my father thought it'd be a hoot.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Knowing the empire, they have court marshals but they tend to play out like
the commanding officer basically just judge, jury, and executioner

Flameblow
Flameblow

Thrawn stats courtesy of the above link:

Thrawn is a 3, 3, 4, 4, 3, 3.
He has a soak of 4, WT 15, ST 20.
Skills:
Astro: 2
Brawl: 2
Charm: 3
Coercion: 3
Cool: 4
Discipline: 4
Leadership: 5
Knowledge (Ed): 3
Knowledge (Lore): 4
Knowledge (Outer): 4
Knowledge (Warfare): 5
Knowledge (Xenology): 5
Melee: 3
Perception: 4
Ranged (Light): 2
Vigilance: 4
Talents:
Adversary 2
Command 3 (3 Boost on Leadership Checks, Subjects gain 3 boost on Discipline checks for 24 hours)
Commanding Presence 2 (Remove 2 setbacks from Cool and Leadership Checks)
Nobody’s Fool 2 (Upgrade difficulty of Charm, Coercion and Deception Checks made against target twice)
Abilities: Art of War (1/session may make a Hard Knowledge (Lore, Outer Rim, or Xenology) Check to gain insight into a particular species or group. For each net Success add automatic success to all skill Checks Thrawn makes against that opponent, species or group until the end of the session. Infrared, may remove setback due to lighting conditions.
Equipment: Light Blaster Pistol, Grand Admirals uniform (+1 soak), datapad and assorted objects d’art.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Dave has moved on to a full "LucasFilm Animation Studios" position, so I doubt they'd move someone as important as him to that if all they're going to be doing is little shorts like Forces of Destiny. We know he's working on another project, but we don't know any details at this point.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Pretty sure it was already revealed that it would be in the the Spy Sourcebook

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Did not realize.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Thrawn isn't 5 or 6 Intelligence or Cunning
I'm genuinely surprised, our crew doctor apparently has a wider base pool of general knowledge than Thrawn. Hell, I'd expect at least 4 Presence as well, you listen up when he's in the room.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I think that is covered more by his high ranks in the knowledge skills (5 in warfare and xenology)

I think FFG is just adverse to giving 5's at all

Evilember
Evilember

So if Thrawn has stats for the Rebels splat, are we getting helicopter sabers as a legit vehicle?

eGremlin
eGremlin

they are statted, but unfortunately no free helicopter rides from the inquisition

girlDog
girlDog

Riff Tamson's people, Karakadons, also fought for the CIS.

I think Zygerians could also be coerced to fight.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I'm pretty sure they're going to be left behind. Even the creators of Rebels admitted it was a stupid idea.

Frankly, I'm surprised that much self-awareness.

Playboyize
Playboyize

For some anti-infantry devices they hit very hard against armor.

But ideally those probably should have been missiles.

Methnerd
Methnerd

That's a mean, really mean skill-block he's got happening there with those talents.
Never actually used him in any of my games over the years as there's a couple of not so closet Thrawn-boos in my group that would probably all but get nekkid and run to join him. Plus running 'Sherlock Holmes' level NPC's is actually a lot tougher than some people think as you can run roughshod all over player hopes and dreams without them being able to put up much resistance.

I've enjoyed the last 3 seasons of Rebs, wasn't so hot on the 1st one as it kind of suffered finding its feet and had some pretty shit-tier animation, but once it got going they found a place for it. That and the fact its almost like some rpg's I've run over the years where things start out small and comfy, then work their way up to being major players is something I've enjoyed watching characters develop over time to their game environment. So it brings a little of that happy feels to a tired and jaded old grog like myself.

whereismyname
whereismyname

How does infantry normally fight armored vehicles in Star Wars?

It seems WW2ish in that man portable solutions have a lot of caveats in range and accuracy, so anti vehicles solutions tend to be crew served and relatively immobile

MPmaster
MPmaster

I think the secret to using thrawn is to keep in mind what he does know and what he does not know. You as the GM know everything but he will only see a finite amount of things. If your PCs fail to clean up their mess properly, he could gleam some clues from that.

even at peak "all according to plan" he still had to spend a lot of time researching and digging up resources/plans to combat the heroes.

You can have an exciting story of the players even trying to feed him false information. You can "cut" to him at naratively appropriate times to establish what he is doing.

Mines, missile launchers, and the occasional heavy emplaced weapons. And a lot of using the terrain against them.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

If classic Battlefront is any indication, then man-portable ATGMs are pretty common.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Well the mobile proton torpedo cannons are one, but those are artillery guns.

Dwarf Spiders

Have an anti-vehicle fire mode.

Arc Troopers

In Legends at least, they could climb atop the tank, shoot the hatch off and destroy it from the inside out.

Lancer Droids

Again in Legends, their Lances were quite effective against vehicle armor.

B1s and B2s

They were seen firing emass at a Juggernaut, destroying it in one episode.

They were also seen making use of infantry portable anti-tank weapons.

Clones.

Ion Grenades, or the Bad Batch were seen making use of them.

Shooting the pilot.

This could be done against AT-RT and the single Trooper Skimmers.

Jedi.

Lightsaber is all that needs to be explained there.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

The Galactic Assault maps in EAfront II had you using Ion Distrupters and portable rocket launchers against MTTs/AT-ATs/AT-M6s.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

veekyforums.com/thread/58070048/games

Illusionz
Illusionz

AV mines are a bitch and a half, and they aren't that expensive or heavy. Anything short of an AT-AT will take a hit and risk probable component damage.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Unless it's the Umbaran artillery tank-walkers and the CIS super tanks.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

You just need bigger mines.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Those aren't necessarily short of an AT-AT.

Also they might, the AV Mine in AoR is Breach 4 with a Crit rating of 2. It doesn't do a lot of gross hull damage but if you get a minelayer with any kind of skill we're talking some real nasty vehicle crits.

Listen, if you fill a duffle with enough Proton Grenades, you can hurt anything.

FastChef
FastChef

which seems odd, since a starting PC can have a 5

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

It was always in the background of my life as a kid thanks to popculture references like the Simpsons and muppet babies, but my first true taste was the re release of a new hope in 97 I think, but the thing that truely made me a star wars fan was phantom menace, especially as my dad was elaborating on how that kid who's name I kept forgetting was going to become darth vader, I became absolutly intrigued by this story, how was that kid going to become the most famous bad guy of all time, how was that friendly grandfather dude going to turn into the cackling space wizard we saw in return, my nine year old brain was blown by the scope and ambition of that story and how they all tied together.

Then attack of the clones came out and it was... ok... but then Clone wars came out and all was right with the world, and while Revenge was rough at times, I found it a satisfying cap to the loop, it made me very fascinated with the original Trilogy and I wanted to find more works that tied the trilogies content together

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Are the umbarans aliens or just humans native to umbara?

Methnerd
Methnerd

Near-human aliens. Sly Moore, the really pale lady who works as Palpatine's aide in RotS is one of them.

Emberfire
Emberfire

When I was a kid, I adored the prequels, almost more than the OT.

As a teen/collegekid I made fun of the prequels a lot, agreed with a lot of Plinkett points.

Now as an adult I really miss the days of the prequels. They weren't perfect, and while Plinkett's video is pretty damn nitpicky I do think Mike raises some good points. I also don't want to imply, even though I'm by no means a Lucas basher, that he was perfect. He was the guy who couldn't write romantic dialogue and who threw in the Ewoks literally for marketing purposes.

Yet, when I watched the sequels, I was blown away at how lifeless, corporate, and barren it all was. TFA only worked moderately because it was a beat-for-beat ripoff of ANH. The only scene that gave me any emotional response at all was Han's death, but that was because I knew the character, I felt for him, and even then I realize I was feeling exactly what some suits in Disney's corporate HQ wanted me to feel.

It was such a manipulative experiment bordering on mindgames, playing off nostalgia and recycling everything you once remembered in the hopes you'll buy something, trying to deceive the audience. By the time RO came I was almost baffled at how bad it was, then TLJ comes along and fails on the basic levels of movie-based storytelling, and I'm left here with nothing.

I long for the days when the prequels were the worst Star Wars movies.

JunkTop
JunkTop

There's something called the Mere-Exposure effect, and I think that's what the sequels did.

Which I think it's worse, not only are they creatively bankrupt. They are intentionally creatively bankrupt.

Methshot
Methshot

Nice opinions you guys have there. And you know what? I won't even call them wrong. You're allowed to have them. But that's all they are: opinion. At the end of the day, TLJ raked in a shitton of cash and did well with non-EUtists who have been whining about the ST since day one anyways. And just like all the prequel babbies you see in this thread defending the shitshow that is the PT, in ten years you're going to have little kids talking about having their first crush on Rey say saying "That's not how the Force works!"

King_Martha
King_Martha

Baiting the thread on page 10
I appreciate you keeping it contained, user. Have a (You).

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