MTG: So which of you faggots actually went and tried this?

Cards are already warped fresh outta the pack. Fix the card stock or you wont have to worry about having ANY players. Boycotted.

I don't get why you people still play this game, it was made clear years ago that the old player base is not the one WotC wants anymore. Move on to other games like the rest of us did, stop torturing yourselves

>implying things
You seem confused about OP's intentions for making these threads. He doesn't spend all his free time scouring twitter and facebook to drag shit back here out of any love of the game.

Because he enjoys it and maybe doesn't want to see the company making the thing he enjoys catering/pandering to an audience who doesn't enjoy it and probably won't any time in the future.

Why does /pol/ care so much about representation in a card game it doesn't play?

Is it even possible to be more cucked than MtG? Thinking the depiction of women in a children's card game makes people into misogynists, Jesus Christ.

I'm sure the Hasbro products with mostly female consumers or playerbases are instituting diversity drives to ensure they depict men appropriately as we speak,, right?

People shouldn't be so fragile that they have their entire world view shaped by a card game. Some forms of media should be able to just give the audience what it wants without cramming a political message in it because it's job is to entertain, not convince you to vote Democrat.

I do enjoy the game, this just caught my eye on my usual search for porn.

>People shouldn't be so fragile that they have their entire world view shaped by a card game.

And yet here you are, complaining about women in your card game and not getting a second serving of Man.

>warped world view leads to a warped world view

And why the fuck is this nigga using the word "warped" when warped pack/precon fresh cards is a gigantic problem?

>the r/mtg faggots in here
Wow, it really is true. This is the most reddit board.

I'd wondered how long it was going to be before some neckbeard got mad about this on Veeky Forums

>tfw this hurts my feelings so bad I can't go back to my "rekt" tab for /gif/ or "monster girls taking thick white human cock" on /aco/

>warped

>Thing is a certain way
>Thing gets changed for dumb reason
>"The hell, this is dumb"
>"Lol ur dumb for liking it in the first place ;)"
Was it autism?

Wait, people actually read the card flavour text and look at the pictures rather than just concentrating on the rules effects I'd said card?

Wow...its a card game ffs

When they play poker do they try to create a backstory for why that one red motherfucker is stabbing himself in the head?

It's autism when you take their explanation for the change the worst possible way and realize the representation of men in a card game is the hill you're willing to die on.

>Why does /pol/ care so much about representation in a card game it doesn't play?
It's easier to get replies to politically-themed shitposting on Veeky Forums than on /pol/.

That's basically it.

Nothing matters, cool story bro, I like South Park too. Caring for things is for like, losers.

>he gets his talking points from reddit

If I had money, I'd give you both Veeky Forums gold. Appropiate gender representation is more important to the game than card quality or gameplay quality.

>Muh it's just a card game
You really haven't been paying attention have you?

This post is art.

Putting more chicks on cards doesn't prevent them from fixing their fucked up cardstock or shitty Standard environment.

Admittedly I don't play Standard so I don't really know if it's any good right now or not, but that's not really the point.

what, are they going to assign you a gender based on the card you draw?

>seeing a warped world is harmful for everyone, men included, because it leads to a warped would view
>the cards aren't warped, it's just you being a shitlord and having a warped world view

[sound of lawyers salivating in the distance]

/Pol/ is retarded about a lot of things but their assessment of the media push to make you feel certain ways about things is not one of them

I only play on untap.in
All my decks are warped from excessive play, shitty shuffling methods...

The mainstream media is pushing to make me remember that women exist, and what's worse, make me remember that occasionally they participate in combat!

>We'll fix their warped world view by warping the cards the worlds they like are viewed on!
The memes, Jack, they write themselves! Art really is alive.

youtube.com/watch?v=xFqShpJm_zc
Watch this shit, you idiot. It's a mere extension of demoralization.

The problem with that idea is that the media isn't pushing towards multi-culti inclusiveness because the ((((RULING CLASS)))) wants to brainwash us all into voluntarily cutting our dicks off.

The media is pushing towards multi-culti inclusiveness because they think that will lead to more profits than other directions would.

>because the ((((RULING CLASS)))) wants to brainwash us all into voluntarily cutting our dicks off.
>more profits than other directions would.
The reality is both.

Their assessment comes to the wrong conclusion. Pol thinks the media’s love of women and colored people is an effort to wipe out white men, when the media’s love of women and colored people is due to them being an easier market to see tangible benefits from appeasing.

Take car insurance commercials. They’re always the colored man or wise white woman putting the silly white man in their place, or just showing off how great having insurance in general can be. Pol would insist this is an agenda, which it is, but one born of the fact that white men don’t need a commercial to tell them what insurance to buy - in fact, most white men “inherit” their insurance from their fathers and friends, making them a market you really can’t sell to. It’s like selling ice to an Eskimo.

Likewise, MtG does not “pander” to white men because white men are already playing the game, and are doing so because of the rules or the card quality, not the color of the person’s skin on those cards.

>because they think that will lead to more profits than other directions would.
And as Marvel would tell you about their comics division, shoving in social justice actually hurts sales. This memo doesn’t seem to have gotten to the bigwig CEOs in all these other companies yet, so they still look at [POTENTIAL NEW AUDIENCE] and only see dollar signs rather than the red losses they should be seeing.

>People shouldn't be so fragile that they have their entire world view shaped by a card game.
hehe

Translation: "Because we need the wimmins' money god dammit and marketing doesn't know how to make them like this nerd shit that only white male social rejects seem to sincerelly enjoy. So we're trying with diversity bullshit that's been proven not to work and actually made Marvel and Bioware lose money because of it's implementation because we're in fucking Seattle and virtue signalling matters more than making a better product so long as the stockholders don't catch us making them pennies on the dollar with this shit".

So, Wizards of the Coast are engaging in a brainwashing operation to make people think it's okay for black guys and white guys to have fantasies about being pirates together?

Because politics ruin everything.

I am right wing, but I don't get ''represented'' in media, because I identify as myself and not my race or ethnicity or gender. I don't see myself in media, and there is no problem with that

>And as Marvel would tell you about their comics division, shoving in social justice actually hurts sales
Which is why they're scrapping and backpedaling all the shit they tried that didn't make money.

If the SJW menace was real and actually controlled things as tightly like /pol/ desperately wants to believe, Marvel would continue to churn out SJW-themed comics at a financial loss. Instead, they're changing tactics to seek more profitable markets.

Ipso fatso.

They nuked /pony/ despite how much money it was making because men dared like it.

I'm autistic and I don't get represented either. I get romanticized and stereotyped.

>Which is why they're scrapping and backpedaling all the shit they tried that didn't make money

Source and examples? I’m not actually challenging your statement, I’m legitimately curious where they said this and what efforts they’ve made to “reverse” the damage.

Let's be real, nothing in the world is a more convincing argument to vote Democrat than the Republican party. No card game or Campbell's soup commercial with interracial gay couples are going to convert more moderates than Donnie boy's next twitter storm.

Any perceived political messages in Magic that aren't in service to the story are probably just there because they appeal to the people who work at Wizards.

Why would lawyers salivate over that? If anything they'd just be happy that some weird as fuck African transgender character is probably easier to copyright than "Bob, the Builder".

You’re not represented because the media does not see a reason why they should represent you... Unless it’s a beer commercial or truck commercial.

Why try to represent conservatives when you can pander to millenial progressives and get them to shill the hell out of a literal corporate product like it's a political movement? Black Panther is being toted as one of the best movies ever made. You can't get that kind of aggrandizing shit from conservatives nearly as easily as the progressive left.

Well that's ultimatedly the divide between left and right "You all must help me" vs "You all must let me help myself".
Of course only one of these factions get upset when they're not the center of attention.

Show me one example where this has led to increased profits

It's about social conditioning you dummy

Did they actually nuke the franchise or something? I remember there was a /pony/ card game out a few years ago but that died in less than a year

>and get them to shill the hell out of a literal corporate product like it's a political movement
How much profit do you think MAGA hats raked in?

Yes you do. Unrestrained capitalism and the right to kill a bitch/"bear arms" are firmly black mana in the game

With a little bit of "Muh history/heritage/traditions" thrown in as green.

Not nearly as much and they're not being heralded as one of the best hats in history.

Also the hat is literally representative of a political movement so the comparison is pretty faulty from the get go.

>You can't get that kind of aggrandizing shit from individuals nearly as easily as the cult.
fixed.
And ultimatedly, that's where all this shit comes from. Democrats own the media and use cult tactics to indoctrinate their sheeple. That's why it's easier for republicans to agree to democratic proposals than the other way around, but also why centrists often end up leaning right on election day.

>Show me one example where this has led to increased profits
It hasn't. That was the point, you dolt.

Remember in the 1980s lol of course you don't when Marvel was pushing skateboard-themed heroes because Marvel thought that kids liked skateboards so that would translate to huge sales? We don't see a lot of skateboard-themed heroes today because that fad died off. The SJW fad is already waning, and corporations won't keep aiming at it if they think they can make money elsewhere.

It's hard to discuss this with people who first got to vote in the 2016 election because they're not aware of how many of these trends have cycled over and over throughout the years.

>implying
The only people who don't play these games are ess-jay-dubyas. I hate niggers and kikes, but I also enjoy children's fantasy card games.

>skateboarding was just a fad in the 80s
Just how out of touch are you?

Untap.in is fucking garbage.

Mark please...

MlP and Monster High both still exist but got "restructured", which is just corporate lingo for "kill that shit now with as little backlash as possible". One because it was attracting the wrong target audience, the other because it was killing Barbie. And so died the best selling female targeted toys of the decade, because they sold to men as well.

Men are not allowed to like girl stuff. But boys are also forced to accept their toys and hobbies be given to women (who don't like them and will just complain about how shit they are because men like them), and told they're sexist assholes if they complain that the hobby is suffering because of these misguided corporate politics.

It was.
Recently it came back because surprise, trends come and go, for example gradients. Next you're gonna see fucking disco making a come back.

>Just how out of touch are you?
Name five current pop-culture figures who are iconic skateboard users besides Tony Hawk. Note that Bart Simpson was created in the 1980s.

>"Muh history/heritage/traditions" thrown in as green
Family and heritage is red you liar. Typical [[[Propaganda]]] from a filthy Blue.

The surfer 80's and edgy 90's where not nearly as cringy as this SJW bullshit tho. Nobody was literally doxxing authors for daring not to like trenchcoats.
Hell the "everything must be about 9/11" 00's weren't as shitty and ham-handed as todays brand of bullshit.

>and will just complain about how shit they are because men like them
I have not seen or heard an adult woman say that ever. Most children grow out of the "Eww, the other gender is gross" phase around puberty, for obvious reasons.

The interface isnt the best, but its FREE and once you get used to the interface, its the BEST place to test new deck ideas. Faggot. L2programs

90% of video games journalism is "This game is gross because men like it".

I really don't want to shill for MTGO because it's interface is still worse than the microprose game from 96, but after getting gifted an account and a Standard deck to help my team test for PTQ's. The competition is miles ahead of cockatrice, xmage and untap.
Hell the AI bot in Manalink is better than most people in cockatrice.

Red is about "feel don't think" with a smidge of "Do what I want to do and deal with the consequences later" and a helping of sports according to Tarkir.

You'll notice that both the factions focused on "Muh family, muh traditions" on Tarkir were partially green, the Abzan and the Temur

Idiots, you don't get it, I don't associate myself with a character I see on the screen, its not ''me''. I don't need black panther movie to feel like a king, that's idiotic

>Marvel was pushing skateboard-themed heroes
Plural? How many could you possibly have? Thats funny as fuck

According to maro, shouldn't like half the cards show morbidly obese people? Why don't they do that?

People still take games journalism seriously? Every couple of months there's a new wave of backlash against "games journalists" and most of the time it isn't about gender, it's about games journalists being fucking idiots. Like not being able to figure out the Cuphead tutorial, or comparing Crash Bandicoot to Dark Souls, or being fucking scrubs at even the most casual fighting games like DBFZ.

Are they? I dropped Marvel a while ago, but it wasn't that long ago when they were still churning SJW shit out.

>Idiots, you don't get it, I don't associate myself with a character I see on the screen, its not ''me''. I don't need black panther movie to feel like a king, that's idiotic

Ever seen this movie? Basically an inverted world where blacks run the government, the police, etc. and whites are second-class citizens. There's a scene near the beginning where Travolta's kid is flipping through TV channels and everyone on every channel is black.

Point is, if you lived in a society where 99% of the characters on TV weren't your race, it would be easier to market things to you by showing someone of your race because of the lack of representation you experienced growing up.

This.
It's maybe not so clandestine as some make it seem, but anyone pretending like there isn't any sort of political motivation are simply burrying their heads in the ground.

>I'm just ignoring the golden age of the 90s, the sk8ter b0i culture of the early 00s, and the subculture of the 10s to prove a bullshit point that I'm not out of touch
Skateboarding's been around since the fucking 50s. At it's worst, it's just one of many counter cultures. It never went away. Or if we're using your terms, "it was a fad like pokemon was a fad" even though both are bigger now than they were during "their time as a fad."

Get over yourself and realize you're not with "it" anymore.

>google marvel skateboard heroes
marvel.com/universe/Rocket_Racer
1977
marvel.com/universe/Night_Thrasher_(Dwayne_Taylor)
1990
comicvine.gamespot.com/el-guapo/4005-43412/
2003

I dont play any format aside from pauper, i have people that play casual/OP decks with me on there, decks that are wholly unobtainable on MTGO. And Im certainly not buying any paper as it stands with the card quality. So free is the way i choose to play. untap.in is free.

So your proof that "skateboard-themed hero" wasn't a passing fad is that there hasn't been a new one for 15 years?

>1977
>1990
Yeah, both those dates are pretty far removed from the 1980s. NOT.

Here's something better; Market to my goddamn interests for fuck's sake, this isn't rocket science. If some spastic is marketing an Xbox game by spastics for spastics with a spastic as the main character, I'm not going to even acknowledge it because I don't have nor want an Xbox. If you showed a PC dungeon crawler, you could market it with a wheelchair-bound transgendered dyslexic post-op black jew from Switzerland and I would have my eyes firmly on the words "dungeon crawler".

Representation does not boost sales, nobody has ever bought something because of someone of their demographic sponsoring it because they don't give a fuck about that. The fact that tokenism gets called out and SJW shit sinks instantly is proof of this. Besides, people relate to experiences, not inherent traits. A porch monkey with five convictions and a crack habit does not have the same experiences as a black businessman who calls his dad to say "Happy father's day".

That's why people love Batman, right? Because they relate to the experience of being obscenely rich, watching your parents die in a gutter, and being trained as a Ninja by a muslim.

All fighting games are casual, dude. You're done with what you were doing within minutes, if that. They're pick-up-and-play with no long-term bullshit, which is the definition of a casual game. Hell, wrestling games with career modes and multiple choices/events are as hardcore as fighting games get due to long-term consequences.

>the amount of reddit posting itt
Jesus Christ, Gook Moot just nuke this shit.

No they love him because he is white. JUST LIKE ME!!!

>Representation does not boost sales
Way to miss the point, dumbo.

Representation gets your foot in the door. KEEPING attention long enough to sell the product requires a quality product.

>fighting games are casual
Way to prove you have no idea what you're talking about.

I already live in Ukraine and most people I've seen on TV have been people from other country. So? White people look better and were majority of population for most of the history of USA, obviously they are represented more.

If you had hit that strawman any harder you would've set off my allergies.

Casual and hardcore are design styles, just so you know.