/stg/ - Star Trek General

TOS-style duplicitous Russians, Movie-era Prussian drawing rooms in space, TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT samurai vikings, or STD religious fanatic cannibals?

Side note - we really get to see the Klingons in three of the original six movies - III, V, and VI. In III and VI, they really fall into the "Prussian drawing room" style. They're warriors, but they have an air of civility and culture. They're more than just space barbarians, and even mroe to their culture than just war.

It's weird, then, that TNG-style Klingons seem to take mostly after The Final Frontier space vikings.

My personal favorite are the Prussians from STVI but I also honestly enjoy the TNG/DS9 Space Vikings. STD's take is a hot one but not my jam and I was born too late for TOS's evil russkies view to really impress.

It's been a while since I watched it, but aren't the Klingons in V notably younger looking than the ones we see in III and VI? Could the difference be a generational thing? Then as that younger generation comes into more positions of power, it leads into that culture becoming more prominent in TNG onwards?

Rightful Heir fan here, was just driving home from school.

Latter two are my favourite - born in '91 so only had hazy memories of my dad watching TNG and TOS when I was little, and clearer ones of VOY. At this point I've only managed watch through TNG and TOS all the way through a couple years ago. Still havent gone through VOY because I remember a decent bit of it from my later childhood years, those memories are fond, and I'd rather them stay that way.

I love me some space Vikings bound by an honour system that they constantly break out of pragmatism or hasty justification because of their base, savage nature.

I love cannibalism in real world human cultures, having it taken up by one of my favourite badass fictional species is just molto bene.

"One" from VOYs Drone episode is adorable. I want a pet Borg.

It could be a generational thing. TOS era Klingons had to be smart tacticians to deal with all the bullshit happening, enough so that it churned out three legendary Dahar masters in one generation. Of course the cult of the warrior is only going to remember the glorious battles and not all the bullshit administrative or sneaky shit they had to do before or afterwards.
Basically TNG gen Klingons are weeaboo for TOS era Klingons.

Has anyone used a Berengarian Dragon in Star Trek Adventures yet? Their stats don't line up with the usual Major NPC stats and I'm wondering how many to use to attack my away team: the default 1 per 2 PCs or if they're designed to be a fuck-huge Boss that can go against a team.

>Movie Klingons
>tv Viking Klingons
>TOS Commie Klingons
>purely for sexual Klingons
>Kelvin Klingons
>”we had way too much money pumped into the makeup department” Klingons

Forget what? That Theurgy is a dumpster fire?

>”we had way too much money pumped into the makeup department” Klingons
You mean "cosmetic surgery gone wrong", "Kylie Jenner challenge" or "Botox overdose" Klingons.

I call them Klingoffs because they are not like Klingons in any way.

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Clever.

That actually sounds about right.

It is literally just a repository for furry porn or something?

No?

>They will fail. [teleports behind borg]

>Doctor to Seven, I'm reading dangerously elevated moisture levels in your sacral implant and your neuropeptide levels are off the charts, what's going on up there? Seven?

>Captain, I'll be in my alcove.

Ugh... I don't know why but celebrity Star Trek shops make me cringe.

Then this will out right kill you
vimeo.com/70052709

How does anything get done with a cast that large?

AAAAAAAH WHYYYYYY

The casting budget would be insane. You'd need to kill off two people an episode.

That'd happen in the Mirror Universe: one ship gets twice as much crew as necessary. Crew is informed that all positions will be filled via tryouts where only the survivors get the positions. The ship is secretly rigged with cameras everywhere, so people can watch the resultant carnage.

Oh it’s so much worse than that.

To the STA user who was looking for TOS ships for his game and requested the Gemini. Jester just dropped this pdf to me so I pass it to you.
drive.google.com/file/d/0BxxBV1PW-LILV0hzdzNpZjJhVTA/view

Eh, it's just fantasy casting. And there are original creations.

It's better than everything getting shooped into crap album covers at least.

It's just a bunch of people all writing their own fapfics.

I think the MU is probably much too impatient to have ever developed reality tv, cruel though it can be

What would be a good medical dilemma that wouldn't rely on the Prime Directive to cause drama and pause? I've been toying with the idea of using nanotech (non-Borg) but I'm not sure if that's been overdone to death yet or not.

Nice! Thanks. Now tell him to do the Atlas. Schnell!

(just kidding).

He's got his releases planned out for like the whole year. More TOS ships coming in August. The Archer, Gemini, Atlas and one more he says so keep an eye out.

You see the episode of ENT with tiny Trip?

I have not watched ENT, so no. If you give me the episode name, though, I can at least read the Memory-Alpha page for it

I like how cinematic and big budget ENT felt without going full on action movie like STD.

Don't know the name, but they grow a clone of Trip to harvest brain tissue to save his life. It causes the death of the clone who's, of course, endeared himself to the crew during his accelerated growth.

memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Similitude_(episode)
People don't like it here on this board afaict but I liked it.

Hm. That might be a little bit heavy handed for my group. I've run the "are clones their own being" type storyline for them in D&D before, and their solution will likely not change just because we're now playing STA.

Did they just cast like, every popular actor in that?
Also, why are there so many characters? I know this is like, furry porn or something, but a bunch of those characters are just like red shirts and engineers and shit. It looks like Liam Neeson is just the guy who works on the fighter deck, for fuck's sake. Is this one of those things where a ton of people contributed to it so it's insanely bloated and incoherent?

Its an entire forum of people making crew RP with online

I'm willing to bet there's at least one person from that group that hangs out in this thread.

I'm sure there's crossover but the forum seems a bit too intense for me. I'll stick my STA group

Would you play in a game set in the Galaxy Quest universe?

By Grabthar's Hammer I would.

I hesitate to ask what their solution was.

There’s not really much there, lad. It’s basically a slightly reskinned TOS.

Anybody here played Fleet Captains? It looks fun and I just want to know if it’s any good.

The lad that keeps posting pictures from it, at a bet.

What do you mean - the universe of the show in the movie, or the universe of the movie? Because I'd definitely play a game where the late-90s United States suddenly got its hands on Star Trek level technology and started exploring the Galaxy.

It would probably start resembling Stargate SG-1.

Fuck that was awful.

Nope, I just raid deviantart for star trek pics and frankly, character shoops are at least kinda relevant and sometimes funny in a what the fuck kinda way (and some of it is porn). I am too old for having time for RP forum nonsense. Hell even when I was a wee babby teen I had no time for that shit because it's always utterly awful garbage full of unironic mary-sues.

Movie era >TNG era > TOS > Targ shit > STD wewuzklangz

I admit that at least part of my preference comes from my age. I was born at the ass end of the Cold War, so STVI was Trek that was directly relevant to my life as we watched the remains of the USSR fall apart IRL. They were also the best-rendered Klingons in terms of picture quality all the way up through JJ trek. TNG Klingons are what I grew up with and remember best. TOS Klingons are neat but not something I really have an attachment to.

>uss_metaluna_by_davemetlesits
I like the deflector matching the Bussards-haven't seen that before...
The leading edge of the "neck" between the saucer and secondary hull needs Ambassador- or Excelsior-style dark ribbing like the area under the fantail for better visual balance.

>born at the ass end of the Cold War, likes political Klinks
My mother's side family left the Soviet Union as soon as the Wall came down, and I find I prefer the TNG/DS9 Klingons squabbling over the remains of a broken empire and culture as Worf/my dad's side of the family looks down on them from their comfy life in the Federation/SoCal with idealized values that resemble a Disney-fied version of the original...

But you choose to invest your own time in finding this shit. Why would you do that to yourself?

>But you choose to invest your own time in finding this shit. Why would you do that to yourself?
Not him, but it's fun to find bad stuff on DA to repost. Not just the bad art - you gotta do art to get good at it, after all - but the stuff that's bad in context or content.
And sometimes I find genuinely good stuff too, which is just dandy.

I assume the weapons would never be off maximum.

Because it is amusing.

Reminds me of Super Mario Galaxy 2.

>that picture
Jesus fucking Christ

I'm more impressed she was drawn wearing clothes.
That's some restraint right there.

Logically, shouldn't a desert-dwelling species like the Vulcans have adaptions to store lots of energy?

STA gives them the racial traits Heat and Dehydration resistance.

>Brandon Bird: "The Death of Jennifer Sisko"
>the HORSE
Oh god wut

Has it ever been explained why Romulans have forehead ridges but Vulcans don't? It could just be the thousands and thousands of divergent evolution, but I'm just wondering if there has been something official.

Some of the Novels have it that the Romulans are basically Vulcan augments. As are the Remans. But there's nothing in alpha canon to explain why some romulans have forehead ridges, no.
Personally, I like the idea that Romulans are Vulcan augments, because it explains a lot of their behavior. Although I can think of half a dozen other explanations that would be just as reasonable.

Klingon admixture

It's symbolic.

Of a horse.

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>tfw you will never help your Vulcan GF with her Pon-farr and spend a week in medical from the ensuing shattered pelvis while she holds your hand
Life isn't fair...

Being perpetually butthurt has a tendency to do that to you.

I don't think Vulcan females are like Ushi Onis from MGE, user. Though that is a terrifying thought.

Terrifying, or arousing? Scarousing?

It's Saturday here in America so you know what that means! Another installment of STA: Ophion. Today's episode it titled: Experiments.

The crew of The Ophion is joined by Lt. Cmdr John Madoc (PC) and (NPC) Senior Chief Heilong (both characters from the GMs other STA game Arcadia). He's been sent by the Daystrom Institute to install a prototype quantum sensor array. It essentially peeks 1-15 seconds into the future to give us a warning if a ship is about to decloak. After a vigorous work task allows the engineering team to install the array a day early they celebrate with a few drinks of the ship's custom brewed beer. This invariably leads to a drinking match with the visitor and our Tellarite Engineer Chief Pragg.

After leaving DS9 we head to the badlands, the site of our tests and a captured Romulan scout vessel set to cloak and decloak on a timed remote. On the way there I challenge Heilong to a sparring match which gets the crew betting on the outcome. Unfortunately I did not uphold the honor of my ship.

Once arriving we spend some time calibrating the array and eventually being able to predict both the position and movements of the cloaked vessel. The Ophion got a neat ship trait out of it an all.

~Chroniton Sensors
Your vessel is now equipped with prototype Chroniton Sensors. They require higher than normal power input, but allow your vessel to peer slightly into the future and determine the most likely possibilities. Once per round in ship combat, you may spend 1 power to reroll 1 die (repeatable) for a Task that involves the ship’s sensors. Out of combat, you may only perform this action once per scene. However, this also increases the complication range by 1 for each die you reroll.

With array calibrated to our liking we head off to investigate our best lead on the two remaining trilithium torpedoes still unaccounted for. We arrive at a hidden dead drop inside hollowed out small planetoid used by Naussican smugglers. 1/2

I think Vulcans are augments themselves.
>Super strength, super intelligent, super psycho
At least Romulans can walk down the street without putting most of their attention into emotion suppression to prevent going on a sudden rape fueled murderspree

2/2
Inside we find evidence of Romulan and Naussican DNA along with a crate of Starfleet issue phaser rifles (stolen). While we investigate the dead drop however the Captain and ship are visited by a Romulan D'deridex. This Commander however is looking to talk rather than pick a fight,

Meeting with my Captain in his ready room, she informs him that there is a growing division between the Romulan Senate and the Tal-Shiar. This is due to the recent advancement of Hiren to Praetor. The Commander extends an olive branch with with exchange of data on the Tal-Shiar and their involvement with the trilithium weapons they've been developing.

youtu.be/hMVXHJRd3dk

That seems to be an underlying problem with the species. Before Surak came along and made them boring, Vulcans were intensely emotional. Tuvok's experience with emotions seems to suggest that they were extremely violent and wanton, almost by course.

Now, It's possible that Vulcans are wholly augmented, as a society, however that would mean that Romulans are an offshoot of that augmented stock, so the point stands that Romulans have been artificially altered from the original Vulcan genetic stock.

Botnay Bay wasn't the only sleeper ship full of augments. Another one got sucked into a temporal space doodad and wound up crashing on Vulcan 10,000 years ago.

The Vulcan’s experience of Pon Farr and other sudden onset emotional states shouldn’t be taken as a 1 to 1 equivalent of pre-sundering Vulcans. It’s evident from dialogue that they were quite warlike and aggressive, but they also had a lifetime to get used to their strong emotions, unlike “modern” Vulcans who only experience them after decades, sometimes centuries of near-total repression.

Post your teams

It's good but the Dominion expansion is a little broken.

One of the novels, Diane Duane I think, has it that to deal with their emotions they sliced up their foreheads habitually and develop keloids.

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That's just silly.

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That should be the subtitle to the Trek novels.

youtu.be/QrGrOK8oZG8?t=436

Star Trek: Theurgy in a nutshell.

>Star Trek in a nutshell.
FTFY

is it worth picking this game up in the current year

If you want to get stuck into a mediocre MMORPG with fairly exploitative cash milking mechanics (not as bad as Asian MMO tier but it seems like it's trying at points) with a star trek theme but writing generally on par with the relaunch novels, then yeah. You can be in a starship and shoot stuff and things.

May as well. It's free and you can play through all the story missions without spending anything. It's only really late game stuff where fancier ships and equipment are really necessary.

So i can just do story solo, how much can I do solo?

All of it for free.

There's really no temptation to spend any money until you get to the endgame, which is past the story and dumb anyway.