A touch of /d/ in your setting

We all know what the dread Magical Realm is. But, where's the line crossed? Can your setting include some weird or sexual ideas in its background lore if the player isn't forced to deal with it?

Like, in my own setting:
>There's an amazon elf race where the queens do most of the breeding, and so are pretty much pregnant all the time.
>There's a race of hedonistic fleshcrafters who get up to freaky shit off-screen.
>There's a race of fucked up evil guys where one of the fates that can befall a champion who screws up is being turned into a bimbo concubine for his successful former buddies.

If the players never run into any of these, is the setting still a magical realm?

>>There's an amazon elf race where the queens do most of the breeding, and so are pretty much pregnant all the time.

Pretty much my fetish.

>If the players never run into any of these, is the setting still a magical realm?
If the players don't run into these things they don't exist for the purposes of the setting. Something that does not influence the story doesn't exist for the campaign.

So no, it's not magical realm unless you bring it up to the players.

If I ever found out the GM had hidden his fetishes throughout the game world, I would quit. Don't drag anyone else into your bullshit. You deserve to stay alone.

And what if they do run across some mention of the subject's existence? Like, if they actually go to parlay with one of the amazon elf queens, is it magical realm if I say she's pregnant, or only if I spend the next ten minutes describing just how pregnant she is?

Is it magical realm to note, should the players choose to attend the orgiastic festival of the fleshcrafters, that they see a lot of weird shit and not specify any further details?

seconding

depends on your players, really.

For me, no, it hasn't devolved into the uncomfortable magical realm yet.

Magical realm depends on uncomfortable degrees of specificity

I always leave the /d/ out of my settings, even if it's a setting I plan to use specifically for smut purposes.
It's easier to make a non /d/ setting that's logical /d/ then add /d/ than to make a /d/ setting interesting apart from 'well it gets my penis durn hard.'

There's a very fine line to be walked here, and having some experience with this kind of thing (I ran a slaanesh centric game of black crusade), the only thing I can say is that it's best to go with the flavor of the campaign. If the game is about brutal combat and war, leave the dick nipples out. If it's about psychosexual depravity and whatnot, then go with what feels right

Personally I would say no, but this thread is kind of pointless because it's really about your group, and not random Veeky Forums posters.

Remember, magical realms is kind of like rape, you can't do it if it's consensual and you have to be told NO. ie. it's only when you're forcing things upon your players that they don't want that it enters the magical realm.

Nothing is magical realm until your players start complaining, and nobody is going to be a better judge of exactly when that is likely to happen then you yourself at your table because you presumably know these people and we don't.

Depends on a couple of things:
>The general temperament of your players
>It's context in the campaign
>What said

If it's really obvious that you're getting off to it or your players can easily recognize why a particular tidbit was added the yes, it's magical realm. To use your own examples:if you give an uncomfortably sensual description of just how MUCH your elf queen is pregnant or just WHAT is going on during that flesh shaper "celebration" then I'd say you've gone too far.

However, if there's an actual believable lore reason behind whatever is going on to give you plausible deniability then go for it. Personally I might've raised an eye-brow at the pregnancy thing, but like said I might be more jaded than your actual players.

It all depends on how you sell it, honestly.

In one culture in my setting, strong warriors are discouraged from marrying but are encouraged to be promiscuous, with the idea that by spreading their warrior seed, they make the next generation of their culture stronger warriors.

I must say, in addition to my pleasure at being told that these aspects don't inherently mark the setting as magical realm, I am really quite surprised at how level-headed Veeky Forums was about this thread.

What arrangement is made, if any, for women who are impregnated by such warriors to help support the progeny? Particularly for unmarried women.

I haven't actually put much detail into it, but you got me thinking about two approaches I could take.

1) It could be just what I literally typed: warriors are discouraged from marrying and encouraged to be promiscuous. It might have been an edict from centuries ago, a previous regime, that just isn't enforced or supported anymore.

2) Some kind of old-timey universal health care that ensured women could support any children they might have, especially in the event that their father was a strong warrior. As for proof, I imagine the father accompanying the mother and saying "Yeah, I fucked her, this crotchspawn is mine" if literacy isn't widespread and a signed letter won't do. Maybe the greater the warrior's reputation, the better the quality of care or the more resources are allotted.

Eh,
I mean... how grimdark is the setting in general?

Like
>preg elf queens
Chalk it up to fertility gods n'all that and it's not super weird imo
>basically dark eldar
If it's a sex thing, then perhaps. If it's a "surpassed sex hellraiser tier" thing, then no because it's reaching unknown psychology tier
>hero rape race
This prompts more questions about how they function and their social dealings but you could make it less "magical" if you ran with a whole "barbaric dominance" based society

Basically, the race procreates through alchemical parthenogenesis, and access to the formula is restricted to the tribe's elites, so the elite of the elite are culturally expected to do the bulk of the breeding, if that makes sense?

It's magical realm if your players don't like it and it interferes with gameplay. I can't answer that for you. Go do some naval gazing.

>There's a race of fucked up evil guys where one of the fates that can befall a champion who screws up is being turned into a bimbo concubine for his successful former buddies.

I'm gonna have to ask you to elaborate on this point, user. For, uh, masturbatory purposes.

Long, long story short, there's a not!Oriental region. One of the races in that region are blood magic/necromancy/diabolism-practitioners who're short on respect for life and big on exploitation, complete with using magic to remake "tools" into something more useful.

As you might expect, the "nobles" caste has pretty cut-throat politics, and if one of these nobles fails, the race's emperor can have the empire's flesh-crafters take that noble, physically transform him into a curvaceous and fertile female, and mess around with his brain to strip away his old personality (which is actually locked in a tiny corner of the mind, aware but incapable of control) and replacing it with your standard "bimbo" persona.

This transformed ex-noble is then given to another noble as a concubine, as a reminder to everybody "Don't Screw Up".

Oh, and said race is bunnyfolk, but that's besides the point.

Does that help you?

Hmmmm
I suppose that works?

Still seems the most magical imo though.

Let's be honest; can mentioning pregnancy ever *not* be magical realm in a Veeky Forums environment?

Yes. Thanks user.

How does it help? Is there something I'm missing? You weren't maybe looking for a detailed description of how the bimbofication happens?

When player drops out because they are late-term?

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>You weren't maybe looking for a detailed description of how the bimbofication happens?

I mean I certainly couldn't say no to that.

Most of the "magical realms" aren't really a DM's fetish, just a projection of the players desperate to see anything sexual in the setting.

>because they are
*because she is

Might be a transmale with parental wishes, you never know.

>(which is actually locked in a tiny corner of the mind, aware but incapable of control)
>as a reminder to everybody "Don't Screw Up".
Giving them control of the mouth periodically seems like it would help.

>There's an amazon elf race where the queens do most of the breeding,
Almost declared it laughably unsustainable.... unless they're semi-immortal and this is to control break-away population issues. Of course, if there's ever a period of "oh shit, we dun got fucked up", they'd ease up on social restrictions. ...And there'd have to be some games the nobles play to decide who is currently queen. Otherwise you get into a genetic diversity issue real quick.

>and so are pretty much pregnant all the time.

BAM, magical-realm.


>There's a race of hedonistic fleshcrafters who get up to freaky shit

Danger! Danger!

>off-screen.

....eh. You can allude to freaky shit... just as long as you're not too explicit. If you sell it as "and the blahblahblah are hedonistic fleshcrafters who get up to freaky shit. You briefly peruse their catalog and are quickly sickened"..... and that's it... then it's not magical-realm because you're letting them WINDOW SHOP rather than SHOVING THEM IN.


>There's a race of fucked up evil guys where one of the fates that can befall a champion who screws up is being turned into a bimbo concubine for his successful former buddies.

. . . Yes this is magical-realm bullshit. Straight up, zero redeeming qualities. You just dove in head first. Fucking hell dude, WTF is wrong with you?

Every NPC in my setting has a penis.

Sweet jesus I never thought I'd see that one used non-ironically out in the wild.

>genetic diversity issue
>in a fantasy setting
[Restore Lesser DNA]

Scenario one is pretty obviously fetish bait. The alchemical process described in seems like a really weak hand wave that makes no sense to me. Is everyone part of the elite then by birthright? Do you have to earn your place there? How does property and inheritance work if only a handful of people are breeding? How is the population stable or growing? The explanation just raises further questions that at the end just end up being "okay it doesn't make sense I just think it's hot so I put it in." Which is pretty much the definition of magical realm.

The second is fine. It's purpose seems to be more of a body horror/sexual horror most of which is done off screen. If they players ran into it I think they'd be freaked out and maybe worried but any declarations of magical realm would be coping mechanisms, that is unless you started going into too much detail and we'll being sexual rather than clinical about the decision.

The third scenario is even more blatant of a fetish thing than the first. The background provided with makes it even more of a magical realm. It's more thought out and explained in lore than the first one but it's literally a power structure built on bimbofication. I understand that this might have been played up for the anons who are into that but it's still super fetish bait and damn obvious at that.

As a player I'd roll my eyes at one but go along with it if the game is worth my time and try not to engage IC why the tribes work like that, maybe OC ask all the questions I asked above depending on how much of a deal I wanted to make out of it. The second is fine, and I'd be interested in fighting/dealing with this group as long as things don't get too blatantly sexual. The third scenario I'd call you out on. I'm assuming I'm playing a traditional fantasy game rather than a /d/ game, but if I'm doing an erpg then fuck it all are fine.

I had a setting quirk for my drow when it comes to power struggles and inter house rivalries among Lloth's clerics. Among drow female priestesses who lose to their peers, its customary as a form of punishment for a high oriestess to turn them into a femboy trap version of their former selves. The transformation is permanent and has the added effect of rendering the former priestess utterly powerless as Lloth withdraws her blessings. This is it fate often worse than death and the former female is often humiliated and ridiculed when not being used to service other Drow males, who take perverse amusement in the whole world process.

However, it's become increasingly more common for rivals to go around any sort of Judiciary process and simply curse their enemies this way. Even a temporary transmutation spell can still result in the Priestess in question losing her powers, as Lloth is unlikely to forgive such an embarrassing failure.

I once created a race of muscular gargoyle man.
They were honorable warriors that had a working society where everyone is a brother. As hermaprhodites, they would had an ovulating phase where they would look for the "brother" that they respect/admire the most, have an egg with him and then give the egg to another brother so that no one actually knows who is who's father/son.

It wasn't magical realm, I just thought it was cool.
None of my players ever liked the concept and the most radicals tell me that if they find this race in my games they'll kill it just because they're homofags.

Well, it’s not technically realm-y if everyone’s in on it, right? We just had a thread about a game where all the PCs are pregnant; you’d have to be a total moron to play with that system and fail to realize that there was something fetish-y about it from the outset. So it’s possible if you take a precise view of the term “magical realm.” Otherwise, probably not, really.

And the female NPCs ?

Did I stutter?

If you don't fap to it and you don't bring it to the players I guess it isn't magical realm? But if you put your fetish in the game just to get a jolly, even if the Players don't notice, it'd still be magical realm.

In my setting I have slave trade, sex slavery is illigal in the "farming" kingdom And heavily taxed and documented, and specifically non-sexual in the "empire" kingdom. My dwaves have a indentured servitude thing, but I haven't implemented it yet. The Orcs have War spaces that they make fight.

So other than the southern folk sex slave trade no real magical realm.

It all depends on how plausible you can make it, and how identifiable it is as a strange fetish. Hedonistic fleshcrafters doesn't sound too bad, but I wouldn't make them a whole race. Maybe a group of elves (I always portray elves as varying degrees of insane anyway).
But pregnant Amazonian elf queens who are bred a lot is pretty much instantly identifiable by anyone who spends time on the internet in places slightly deeper than Facebook. MtF Bimbofication might be harder for them to pin-down, but it's still off-putting and pointless.

If you want to put your fetishes in a game, do it subtly or in a way that makes them plausible and not jarring and creepy. Or better yet, have some integrity and respect for your players and don't put them in at all.

Magical realm is
>Content which the introducer finds arousing
>Which comes at the expense of others involved
As an example, involving vore can be okay even if it's your fetish, if the players think it's cool that they're now inside a giant kraken and have to kill it from the inside.
If the players are grossed out at first (but think being grossed out is a welcomed in a roleplaying game) it's not magical realm either.

To answer your question, if the players never know of these things, it's not magical realm at all. If they learn of it and don't care, it's not magical realm. If they learn of it and care - but it's not something you find arousing - it's not magical realming either.

Gimme your genderbend scenarios senpai.

I know you got 'em.

Uh... there's a god that can make pious followers into angels to act as his agents in the mortal world. This usually involves getting superpowers and wings and that shit, but he might force someone into a specific form to fit their mission.
Like become an orc to do some miracles in an area the church is trying to convert, or for your case, a new queen to give an heir to a specific dynasty and prevent a succession war.

There's a species of basicly spider girls that all have the human half of the races' founder and reproduce like mindflayers. Closes thing I guess.

Similar to , gods in the setting have the ability to turn a follower into an avatar. The worshipper gains powers of the sphere/domain, and takes on an appearance similar to that of the deity. Can be temporary or permanent depending on what the god requires. So of course a god's chosen form influences the avatars' and there are plenty of commonly worshipped gods that could result in this scenario.

The various races in my world can only reproduce by falling in love.

I'm not even joking.

>But, where's the line crossed?
It has little to do with how tame or outlandish the fetish is, but to what degree its sexuality is emphasized. Compare the following two:
>A Shadowrunner agency is headed by a female CEO. She's a strict but fair no-nonsense leader who may or may not be open to avances from one of the party members
>A Shadowrunner agency is headed by a female CEO. She loves seductively sitting on her desk, showing off her long and lucious legs. Constantly having her top three buttons undone, she enjoys making double entendres during her mission briefings, hoping that one of the operatives present pops a stiffy
Same fetish, very different approaches, no?

It's pretty magical realm, but mainly because of the muscle part imo because you do a good job of justifying things that may seem like fetish fuel.
Also your players are faggots.

Have you posted about your setting before? Required to fall in love sounds familiar from some recent threads.

Knightly /u/ romance is the best

well in my settin there is a mercenary group of nimphomaniac buff amazons, ready to bead andy man they met specialised in atricion warfare
something like pic

>/u/
>Implying ladyknights are not for their young male squires or male knightly kouhais to marry and impregnate.

pedestrian taste

As long as it's off screen whatever

hey, not everyone lives by American standards of what's socially acceptable

>/u/ and /ss/

Both of those are basically memes at this point and belong with dickgirls in how much they're overplayed by people who insist their "best fetish" be in everywhere and everything..

If you can't shoehorn latex into your fantasy setting, then what's the point?

Swampleather catsuits are important.

Do you magic away the uncomfortable consequences of prolonged latex wearing?
Or do you revel in them?

>I recall the night where my mother told me that a female knight was only useful in the bed.

>/u/ and /ss/
At the same time?

Swampleather is more breathable and the synthetic latex of our time.

It is "leather" from the surface membrane of a particular bog.

>make a non /d/ setting that's logical /d/

Please explain what logical /d/ is and what makes a setting "logical /d/".

Which fetish(es) are these two examples meant to have in common?

Is this meant to be something the players like, a PC or the NPC likes, the GM likes, or some combination?

>Same fetish, very different approaches, no?

Yes. But which which fetishes? One appreoach does seem much less disruptive.

Wasn't that how some of the Hawaiian dynasties worked? The ruling women Empowered, depoweded, and sometimes eliminated their effectuators but spent most of their time pregnant and ruling from shelter?

I mean, the basic point of Magical Realm is that you're doing it specifically to get your rocks off.

It's purely a product of intent. If the intent isn't there, it isn't Magical Realm. That doesn't mean it can't still be garbage, mind.

>dat armour
i think I know how I want my Sororitas to look now

>OL/Female boss
>Femdom
>Stockings/pantyhose
The fact that you guys couldn't even guess this, shows you how easy it is to fly under the radar if you do it right.

Skintight living armors/biosuits? They can serve as latex and molest the character at the same time.

Now we're talking.

I think that's a garden path sentence, sempai. Try reading it again and insert "into" between 'logical' and '/d/.'

Are those tears or sweat coming from ponytail?

Uh, but these are very vanilla fetishes, and easy to put up even if you dont have them. You just need to be ready if the players have the bright idea to overthrown her out sometime because why not.

>spoiler
You sick fuck. I genuinely gagged. I've seen some degenerate shit, but what the fuck, user?

That was kind of user's point, wasn't it? That since the fetishes are tame, you get away with it. But I wonder, where does it start to cross the line?

My players are aware I'm into guro, so any time I do anything close to in-depth gore descriptions they tell me it's creepy because they think I'm getting off to it.
Presumably when the barbarian caves in a skull and a ribcage with his hammer they still imagine blood and snapping bone, but when I describe it they think it's a sexual thrill. It isn't, I can also do in-depth description of a person's appearance, I'm not getting off to it.
Nonetheless however, I don't do graphic descriptions any more, I'll just tell them "it's graphic" or "it's not pretty to look at" or something rather than give the sentence I normally would for quick descriptions.

Going from that, I think you can include your fetishes, it's the forcing of them that makes something a magical realm.

Magic realm is unavoidable in a Star Wars RP. Dem ships.

Yuri is for cucks. It's all about women who want nothing to do with your penis.

k

But what if You don't have a penis?

As opposed to women and dudes who both want nothing to do with your penis on account of being imaginary?

I DMed a 3.5 game years ago about demons that were infiltrating a city to prep for a full-scale invasion. One of the PCs wrote a backstory about his Dwarf Fighter having a wife who went missing. In one session, the PCs were going to raid a prison that was under new demonic management, and Dwarf Fighter got arrested on purpose so he could scout from the inside. They went to the archive room to destroy his arrest record and found an arrest record of his wife that had not been completely filled out. Suspicious, to say the least. They found her in a cell, broke her out, and when they were outside, I told him to make a Spot check on her. I informed him that being an intimate acquaintance gave him +10 which was just enough to succeed. I said "Something seems off. You get the feeling this isn't actually your wife."
*beat*
Dwarf: That's probably just my gut. We're going to go home and have sex. I roll seduce.
3
Me: *completely off-guard* Oooookay then. Despite your very clumsy advances, she's been away for a long time and is pretty DTF. You have an incredible night of passion, but afterwards you feel drained, as if part of your soul were pulled out and please write down the following debuffs. *lists off debuffs associated with a negative level*
Other players look horrified as I list the debuffs.
Dwarf: Wow, that must have been quite a night.
He was genuinely surprised to learn that she was a succubus and insists to this day that there was not way he could have reasonably known.

Better get yourself one, these things are awesome, you're seriously missing out.

You say this like the clitoris isn't just a better dick.
On the other hand, I can't angle my piss, so I guess you win out on this one.

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Then I guess you just make the best of your life as a eunuch.

If it’s just one culture it isn’t unreasonable for them to take the “it takes a village” approach and raise all of the children communally as one big family.

I don't understand. Are you trying to attack people who like hentai? Do you know where you are?

With a bit of practice perhaps. On the initial use it just doesn't feel ergonomic, being too tiny and all.
But I didn't mean to turn this into a pissing contest.

I thought moot banned hyenas years ago
Get out and stay out

Nurse Verity was one of Veeky Forums staple characters.

She's been banned? That's a pity.

I am glad that not being able to angle my pee is something I don't have to deal with.

>You say this like the clitoris isn't just a better dick.
bitch there's a reason it's penis envy, not clitoris envy.

It's that Freud was a hack who didn't understand that women can have multiple orgasms and that the clitoris can (and should) be involved with this.
You've clearly never experienced a sybian, user.

You say that to yourself, but deep inside you know you crave the cock.