Warcraft Lore and RPG Discussion

Heck, they could've just had all the warrior heroes be curious to see who'll win. Maybe even placing bets.

>Two weeks of drinks on the wolf!
>You're on, Lothar. Three weeks on the elf. Can't believe I'm betting on an elf...

Yeah, but I mean on Zandalar, you see them everywhere. Get a quest to kill a few little dinosaurs, and you'll meet the Lord of Thieves, the God of Garbage, Master of Minions and the Keeper of Secrets. Just waiting to fuck with you. Hek hek hek hek hek!

Loa-minous beings are we. Not dis crude matter, mon.

Why would Bwonsamdi do that? He be a patient god. He can wait for people to die. And the more people livin', the more people dyin'.

I really want Bwonsamdi to be the next big god figure. Azeroth's pantheon could use some new spice to it, and what's better for a god of death than a revival of a world war.

That checks out, but I don't want him to be a raid boss. I like that Trolls have an extensive pantheon that fill a wide variety of roles. They have a god for everything they could ever need one for. They got a God for thieves, a Goddess for spies, a God for Kings and Paladins, a God of Shapes for Druids, a God of Wind that blesses their navy, a God of Death, and so on.

And speaking of which, I really want Hakkar to show up some time.

So who has the best warfront datamining? I need more info on the Dark Irons.

I love it.

*mattah

But to further this idea. It'd be great if Hakkar ended up asserting his place as the true Blood God. Also, it's always been interesting how he has a Void crystal for a heart. It's a shame we don't have our proper Quetzalcoatl hanging around, especially after he promised to see us later.

Their excuse was so retarded. "We just cant see Lothar and Blackhand being in the same place"

Then make them constantly fight, this isnt' complicated, we're warriors, not frilly little shites living in a golden sky castle patrolled by golden holy angels.

But then we were.

Fucking idiots, how can they ruin "Being a warrior"?

Shit, instead of some fucking Vrykul ghost why not give us either a secret surviving black dragon or a Cinderworm that broke free of Bolvar's control.

Have them wear Deathwing's scale as a sign of authority/extra plating.

There were so many options available to them. If they didn't want to use more resources, they could have used a black rook hold barracks run by Jarod Shadowsong. Or taking over a demon world and being a keep surrounded by an eternal battlefield. If they wanted a Vrykul theme then they could have used WotLK assets and put us in a giant Vrykul castle shoved inside a mountain that was taken over by Muradin.

But no, fucking holy sky castle lorded over by the least valorous keeper of them all.

Hakkar is the villain with the most to lose from the consolidation Blizzard has been doing since WoD.
If he turns out to be just another Team Void villain-of-the-week it's going to fucking ruin his whole mystique of being just a lone, unrelated threat he had in Vanilla/Cata; not to mention mention creating the most asinine distinction in the game in which Hakkar is explicitly not an Old God, just an old God (created by and working for the same guys the Old Gods work for)

>Team Void
Why should the Void be a distinct team? We've got a fucking Devilsaur Loa granting powers of the Light, and we're never going to mistake it for a Naaru any time soon. Or even think of it as similar to a Naaru. Being associated with one power or another really doesn't strip away any identity on its own. Stripping away identity does.

Team Void meaning the combined forces of the Old Gods and all the previously-independent factions that they later retconned into being Old God servants or other factions serving the Void Lords.

i.e. the Purple Team.

I know what you mean by team Void. I also know "team Void" is a bunch of backstabbing ever-warring asshats, and there's no reason for everything Void associated to be the same.

are nightbornes the most powerful warriors?

Is... Is that the Odin head from the original Rune?

Just found some hires fishtits.

it used to be the graphic that popped up when warriors switched into Berserker Stance, I have no idea what it's supposed to be

Why she's no daisy. She's no daisy at all!

She's really let herself go.

The Loa are already splitting into teams, though.

You transform into a fish-monster to survive the apocalypse and let's see how well you do.

Who is on Team Veeky Forums.

>Nose wart piercing.
Turning into an octopus was an improvement.

>tfw there's no Azshara mind control smut even though you can literally get Bad End'ed by her in the WotA Cavern of Time

Damn night elves are busty.

The Loa each do their own fucking thing, and sometimes chill out together. Being Void associated would basically make Hakkar somewhat like Sethe from Draenor. His own fucking thing, but with some sort of Void powers. Just like Rukhmar and Rezan can be Light Gods without being windchimes, anything like windchimes, or even associating with windchimes. Or the philosophy of windchimes.

I feel like rolling a human character. Someone stop me.

Until it's revealed that, like Cenarius, Rezan is the child of Elune, and that she's the grandmaster windchime

Now the real question. You've only got two hands and two eyes. Which of her hands/eyes do you hold/gaze into?

Why play a human when you could be a delicious goat girl instead?

Sethe and Hakkar both were whispered to by the Void Lords, while Rukhmar and Rezan both were whispered to by the Naaru.

Whichever DBM tells me to.

We already know Rezan's mother. The first Devilsaur, Xibala.

Did alternate Draenor even have any Naaru that weren't PURPLED.COM?

Why not be a shorter, angrier, drunker human who is maybe a shaman? You can still be a warrior or paladin if you want, too.

"Most of my brethren are disdainful of the Horde's "barbaric" ways, and I once counted myself among them. When I was first ordered to this somewhat humid and...fragrant place, I cursed my lot in life. During my studies, however, I grew to appreciate my surroundings. It has a certain charm, dont you think? ... you wouldn't be interested in my studies, of course, not being a mage yourself.

Before I was stationed out here, I'd only heard about the rejuvenating effects a mudbath can have on skin. When I first tripped over a tree root, I was exposed to the full benefits! Amazing what nature can do, even without a bit of magic to help it along.

Ah, I love the smell of Stonard! It smells like...like... orc sweat. And rot. Still, combined the effect can be quite pleasant! It's an acquired scent.

While visitors complain about the exceptionally humid air, I find it helps my complexion! Dry skin is unflattering.

It is a shame, a dreadful shame, that my brethren cannot see what benefits come from truly steeping onself in a culture.

You need to learn to appreciate your surroundings, Cersei!

Here I am, in a rough-hewn stone tower squatting on marshy, muddy ground while clouds of midges fly unchecked through the open doorways, standing amongst hunched, greenskin figures of dubious hygiene and coarse manners. I've never been happier.

To this day, I ponder why I, myself, was chosen for this particular station. I can only imagine my superior felt I was uniquely suited to the task and would quickly become accustomed to the quaint culture of the Horde found herein, but I heard a truly mean-spirited rumor that it may be because I talk too much."

Okay, while that is true, Cenarius's father was the first stag. And Elune is a night elf goddess. If there's one thing Warcraft porn has taught me, it's that she probably also has a dick and could just be Rezan's father instead.

Azeroth didn't have any Naaru at all, didn't stop the founder of the religion of the Light from being whispered to by them and even making the symbol of the faith a simplified Naaru.

>symbol is a simplified naaru

NANI

Look up the symbol for the Church of the Holy Light.

hot

Blizzard messed up the factions from the get-go.

In Vanilla, Night Elves should've gone Horde. Yea, I know what you're thinking; 'but there's bad blood between elves and orcs over Ashenvale, etc.' I'm certain there's a narrative course around that problem. Maybe the Tauren appeal to the Orcs to make some kind of reconcilliation with the Nelves in the interest of gaining druidic allies. The fact of the matter is that Nelves have much more in common with Horde ideals than they do with Alliance ideals.

The Undead should've gone Alliance in a later expansion. Basically, I think the Horde should've remained true to a shamanistic/druidic culture as a faction concept (as opposed to outcasts/unlikely friends); that kind of culture would've never accepted aberations like the Undead. Maybe the undead would be still barred from cities without permits and would take several expansions for negotiations to work out, once they've realized they're not just mindless ravagers. I don't mind some of the Undead being a bit looser morally than the Alliance, but the idea of Lordaeron, the most religious and even zealous of all the Human Kingdoms, suddenly shifting to wacky cartoon villainy even after they regained their free will ridiculous.

Alliance should have been Humans, Dwarves, Gnomes, Blood Elves, and Undead in WotLK when the uneasy negotiations passed. Horde should have been Orcs, Trolls, Tauren, Night Elves, and Ogres in WotLK, the lore being that they allied with some Ogre clans around the end of BC. Goblins and Pandaren are both neutral and can join either faction. High Elves exist but are sidelined as Belves are largely the same thing if they keep to the Alliance anyway. Worgen stay feral, of unknown origin, and non-furry fapbait. I love the Draenei aesthetic, but they should probably stay as Lost Ones.

Dark Irons, Wildhammers, Undead Elves, Leper Gnomes, Forest Trolls, Highmountain Tauren, Dryads, and Mag'har Orcs are allied races, a feature added much earlier.

joke: the factions are good as they are now
broke: night elves and undead should have been neutral/swapped factions/been antagonists
woke: the factions should be trolls vs. titanforged

>and its application in and around traditional games
>implying you nigs ever mention RPGs
>implying this isn’t a thinly veiled /v/ thread

Just like the TES threads and the Star Wars threads and all of the other setting-specific threads that come here because /v/ and /tv/ are shit.

you must be gay
those lines were all said by a dude

It's a pair of parenthesis with a strikethrough, turned 90 degrees.

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but user
trolls ARE titanforged

Sure it's just not a big voodoo doll?

Embrace your destiny.
Say it with me now
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YOu got the order backwards
Titans are Trollforged

>Basically, I think the Horde should've remained true to a shamanistic/druidic culture as a faction concept (as opposed to outcasts/unlikely friends)
If you actually look at it, the Horde's faction concept is "former tools of the Burning Legion, and a few of their allies."

Former tools of the Burning Legion:
>Orcs
>Forsaken
>Blood Elves
>Nightborne
>Arguably goblins and trolls, since their species worked for the Horde during the Second War, but debatable because the goblins and troll of the Second War weren't the Bilgewater or the Darkspear or Zandalari

Friends they made along the way:
>Tauren
>Highmountain tauren
>Goblins and trolls, if they don't fit in above

Meanwhile, the Alliance is "former targets of the Burning Legion, and also titanforged"

Former targets of the Burning Legion:
>Draenei
>Lightforged draenei
>Night elves
>Humans
>Worgen, when they were humans, were targeted by the Burning Legion. Moreover, the worgen curse started as a result of night elves being targeted by the Burning Legion.
>Void elves, as the void was literally the primary target of the Burning Legion

Titanforged:
>Dwarves
>Dark Iron dwarves
>Gnomes

>druids are now only 1/3 cenarion related
>1/3 loa related (not too egregious)
>1/3 fucking humans

that last one is just too far

>Not having a janky-ass 4 faction system with Horde, Night Elves, Undead and Humans.

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I wonder what Sabellian and his Outland Black Dragon Flight are up to.
I still stand by the notion that Outland is one of the most interesting places at the moment in terms of potential plot developments.

>I still stand by the notion that Outland is one of the most interesting places at the moment in terms of potential plot developments.
And I still stand by the notion that the separation between the Draenic and Outlandish timelines should destabilize and cause the two to undergo some kind of bizarre fusion event that maintains all of Outland's potential while revitalizing the dying world and also giving us more content for best birds

>Spires of Arak suddenly appears floating in the void south of Terrokar

>five toes

It's just a blinged-out watcher or construct.
They've had like 30,000 years to go native.

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I miss her Warcraft RPG look.

The problem at that point is races for the Night Elf faction. Horde and Alliance races are mostly obvious, and Scourge could be unique in that it could possibly have undead versions of all races, but adequate races to ally with Nelves are lacking. If the Draenei still land on Kalmdor, they could work okay. If the Nelves somehow save the Worgen from the Undead/Scourge and amplify the druidic aspects of their culture, that could also work.

Dryads and Nelves practically share the same culture. Ents are fucking tree people and furbolgs are too tribal and trivial. None of them would be terribly popular enough to warrant playability, I'd think.

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Well, who's cuckold now? Also, RIP Lady Liadrin(

what the fuck

Now I am imagining witchdoctors working with him to make something dank enough to get a Titan Keeper high.

Agreed, but they wanted to be able to reuse default naga slither animation on the ground

This is fake.

Is this real? Please tell me this is real. Fuck Horde ""Paladins""

There's been a photoshop contest or some shit.

Liadrin and Turalyon were already both on the Vindicaar.

This is warfront. Someone will also die on the Alliance side.

>Liadrin and Turalyon were already both on the Vindicaar.
Turalyon even suprised what she is a paladin during warfront. I don't whink they talked on Vindicaar.

we now that Turaylon is a duplicitous backstabber that betrayed half of his allies against the Legion though. I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to kill the second in command of Light's Hope

Who would be best to kill off in the alliance? Probably some night elf that's not neutral. Like Tyrande. Though at this point it's honestly a mercy killing

Go away, Lady Liadrin, you're dead.

>the bond of brotherhood between death knights is so strong that they refuse to kill each other under any circumstances
>paladins kill each other for fun
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Acting like a true alpha-paladin (well, he is actually).

Have you read his first sentence? Liadrin was cruel to imprisoned members of the Alliance (and I am sure killed many draenei vindicators, even though they once helped her people). I am sorry for your loss, but she committed a war crime.

>Liadrin was cruel to imprisoned members of the Alliance (and I am sure killed many draenei vindicators, even though they once helped her people)
literally when

>literally when
In BFA? She was starting to get cruel towards the Alliance even in Legion.

while she's leading the paladin hall? Sounds like bullshit m8

>literally when
Same question goes to Thalyssra.

Why are you seriously discussing a fake screenshot? There's one of Rokhan killing Danath too.

>25 unique IPs on a friday night
FUCK the faggot who started posting this on weekdays

>while she's leading the paladin hall?
I am talking about how she bad-mouthed night elves and Alleria. Also, need I remind you, that during BC she ordered her blood knights to burn Alonsus chapel in Stratholme and to kill the human paladin Aurius just for lulz?

>night elves and Alleria were prisoners of the horde
lmao what the fuck

>There's one of Rokhan killing Danath too.
Well that makes sense. Blizzard don't want to give Stromgarde to the Alliance. They are lazy, you know. Also it would be really ironic twist in plot, if Danath TROLLbane will die at the hands of a troll.

>elves
>men
Everyone knows the elf gender options are 'waif' and 'musclegirl' user.

How tall are Vrykul according to lore? I know they're fucking huge in game but shit's never to scale in the actual game.