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At least as far as endurance goes, that was more of a design feature than a bug. Weren't meant to operate much beyond the Med, and so fuel bunkerage was sacrificed to maximize other factors like speed. See the early Condottieres for the most extreme example. Many French botes were built similarly.
I do think it's interesting that in much of the engagements I remember reading over, the RM had a higher percentage of hits per shots fired than the RN, it's just that the RN were willing to expend say, two thirds of the 6" ammo in theater to sink one destroyer. Makes you wonder how they would have fared with better quality control and some work to address those dispersion issues. British commanders noted repeatedly that the Italians found range reliably, but that the patterns just didn't produce hits.
Lack of search radar, combined with less training for night actions fucked them over repeatedly, especially early on when they actively tried to force them.
Lack of DC throwers early on hampered ASW efforts, but they got significantly better at it as the war progressed. See the Gabbiano corvettes as an example.
The Pugliese system was pretty awful on the refit botes, but I've seen it argued that it actually did work on the Littorios more or less as designed.
Doctrine and Facist fuckhead interference combined with the intention to engage in what was supposed to be a quick landgrab that turned out to be a protracted conflict really highlighted and in some ways heightened some of the design flaws of the botes that might have otherwise not been an issue.
Hell, I've tried to get people to talk about actual physical games. For some reason its hard to do so around here. I'll go back to basing and painting, and I guess I'll punch my copy of They Come Unseen when I get it.
I have this.
30s Haruna is cuter than any of the her current personifications I've seen desu.
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Damn, I'm gonna have to hunt down that Cat pinup now. Need it added to my desktop rotation.
Good luck with that.
It was pretty easy actually.
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How feasible would it have been to refit the common-hull US heavy cruisers? Quite a few lingered into the late 70s as command ships and missile cruisers, so there was still some life in the hull...
Main turret 3 could be replaced with a VLS, and the superstructure extended past the barbette to a hangar and helipad on the aft...CoG might come up a bit, but removing the turret and catapults should free up a good amount of mass.
Further modifications could replace all the tertiary Bofors/Oerlikon AA cluttering the deck with CIWS, which might make room/free up mass for more missiles and reduce crew requirements...