Horus Heresy General /hhg/

Will we ever get the Khan on his Razorback?

Having just left the last thread talking about my ws...

No. I'm a poorfag.

>that one EC on the very left in a crowd of Fists
>shit, I took a wrong turn somewhere
>maybe if I play along they won’t notice
“Die t-traitor scum!”

>what is burden of proof ?

Meant for One day phoneposting will kill me, but not today

New thread. Don't bring your autistic screeching over to here.

Megarachnids
Hrud
Enslavers

>ihaveneverseenacarnacthread.jpeg

Just got power back after 5 days, what (if anything) did I miss?

Knight heads? People choosing their legion by dubs? IVth is now even more the bitterest legion?

>Lord Marshal, Tercio, Tercio (volkite), LR, LR, LR Ex.
>Praetor on bike, Plasriders, Tacs in Rhino
>Knight Errant

The interaction between Chogorian Brotherhood ("the army's warlord must be on a bike/jetbike") and the allies matrix (Fellow Warriors aren't considered to be in the same army) is weird. You're probably okay though.

But I don't think the White Scars detachment works. Plasma Outriders are really expensive but can justify themselves if they outflank and shoot a lot... which means you don't want to attach the Praetor to them. In which case he doesn't work. I'd take a larger Outrider squad (6) with meltabombs, a couple of power axes, and a Sergeant with power glaive, with the Praetor attached. If you want plasma - and want to make use of the cyberhawk - take machine killer vets with plasmaguns and combi-plasmas. Do you, though? Your primary detachment is shooty. Why take shooty allies? I'd take Assault Marines or more Outriders. Maybe Attack Bikes (no power weapons, but lots of attacks) with a character attached.

I'd drop or change the knight for more anti-tank shooting (and because I've told you to take more points than you had). Graviton Land Speeders, maybe. Or maybe not. I haven't seen anyone play 2250 so just write up a 2500pt list.

>UM Breachers w/ power swords
Most people say you have to swap the whole squad to swords and therefore can't take anything else, but there's plenty of disagreement and very little clarity.

>ocean nonsense

Yeah it’s silly. But… Dark Age of Technology! I'll just assume that most of the water got turned into vapor, which started turning Terra into Venus, but they had the technology to do something about it (maybe it's locked up as a hydrate of some sort, or Mars stole it to warm up their atmosphere).

All we know is that it was gone by the time the Emperor conquered the world, then he started to bring them back, and by M41 they're gone again.

Lovely work. Source?

You're all good, welcome back

Huge argument over the earth’s oceans being “gone”.

Surely power sword breachers are shit with only one attack, unless they charge.

>huge
Holy kek user, did you ever saw entire threads fill with "dindu nutthin' wrong" arguments between space wolves and thousand sons apologists

I know that feel. Over the last 3 years, I've gotten little bits here and There, but now I'm comfortable where I am, I'm building my 3k list properly for summer play.

It will cost £1080. And That's not including the 2 sicaran variants I have, 4 Javelins and 4 scimitars.

That outrider looks really nice, by the way.

>mfw haven't been here for at least somewhere around last year
How much has changed? Are the regulars still here? Is BL still terrible? Has the FW fluff gotten worse or better?

>implying all the water is in the atmosphere
Don't think you can live in these conditions mate, nevermind the silly physics thing that is saturation

What army do you play?

>People choosing their legion by dubs?
People still do that? That feels so 2016.

My WS is mostly going to be BoP marines in Rhinos, with one squad each of Outriders, Sky Hunters, and Attack Bikes. Not so expensive but man, plastic Mk IIIs take me forever to build and time is a bigger problem for me than money. I’m struggling to make progress.

We had a wave of people complaining about namefags, so they went underground or left. Things slowed down after Alan Bligh passed away - book 7 was a mess, FW kept releasing broken Custodes and Rhino doors, 8th ed 40k grabbed everyone’s attention… so things were slow. Last month’s Weekender finally made things look promising again, thank gods.

>how much have changed ?
Nothing, inferno was the final nail in the coffin and now we're getting shafted like wfb
>are the regulars still here ?
I heard user was still as autistic as ever
>is BL terrible ?
Somehow they manage to do worse each year despite having the same authors
>has the FW fluff gotten worse or better
There is no new fluff and won't be any more, FW's team has been reduced to nothing thanks to the specialist games return, alan blight died, leaving them with nobody to write down fluff and with inferno that took them years angelus/malevolence isn't expected before 2025

I don’t think we’re going to come up with a way to make the fluff work.

BL’s novels in the last year were not by their best authors. Some of the primarch books and short stories were good though.

>We had a wave of people complaining about namefags, so they went underground or left. Things slowed down after Alan Bligh passed away - book 7 was a mess, FW kept releasing broken Custodes and Rhino doors, 8th ed 40k grabbed everyone’s attention… so things were slow. Last month’s Weekender finally made things look promising again, thank gods.
I figured Al and Uni would be gone by now.
>gods
Boi.
>Nothing, inferno was the final nail in the coffin and now we're getting shafted like wfb
I remember that.
>I heard user was still as autistic as ever
Well that's good. From my time away from here I have learned how to handle autism that outweighs anything I've seen here before.
>Somehow they manage to do worse each year despite having the same authors
Knew it!
>There is no new fluff and won't be any more, FW's team has been reduced to nothing thanks to the specialist games return, alan blight died, leaving them with nobody to write down fluff and with inferno that took them years angelus/malevolence isn't expected before 2025
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
K.

I know, it just tickle my autism that the guys in charge of the lore have less knowledge in physics than a 5th grader

Might as well post my own list, would like to see other lists too, always fun reviewing lists.

By no means a competitive list, but fun as hell
3000 Points Ordo Reductor

Archmagos Reductor w/ Dual power fists, machinator array, abeyant, cyber-familiar, rad grenades, phosphex bomb, graviton gun, and void shield harness: 330 Points
Magos Reductor w/ Dual power fists, machinator array, abeyant, cyber-familiar, phosphex bomb, and graviton gun: 245 Points
Magos Reductor w/ Dual power fists, machinator array, abeyant, cyber-familiar, phosphex bomb, and graviton gun: 245 Points

6 Thallax w/ 2 Phased Plasma Fusils: 275 Points
6 Thallax w/ 2 Phased Plasma Fusils: 275 Points
11 Scyllax w/ 4 Graviton Guns and Trairos w/ 2 Hunter-Killer Missiles: 605 Points

6 Myrmidon Secutors w/ 6 Graviton Guns, 6 Plasma Fusils and Trairos w/ 2 Hunter-Killer Missiles: 580 Points

Krios Venator w/ Hunter-Killer Missile, and two volkite sentinels: 185 Points
Ordo Reductor artillery tank w/ Demolisher cannon, siege plating, heavy bolter, twin-linked bolter, and hunter-killer missile: 130 Points
Ordo Reductor artillery tank w/ Demolisher cannon, siege plating, heavy bolter, twin-linked bolter, and hunter-killer missile: 130 Points

3000 Points

Basic idea is
>Magoses join scyllax and hunt the biggest enemy unit on the table and soak up fire with an AV 15 vehicle with a void shield. Also they have 7 haywire shots between them
>Myrmidons hunt marines and heavy vehicles with their 6 haywire shots
>Thallax hold objectives and molest marines
>Krios hunts tanks at longer ranges
>Demolishers deal with any infantry
>Turn 1 fire off 7 hunter-killer missiles primarily to kill any light vehicles like rhinos

Can't say my list has worked well, but it is fun as hell when the enemy dumps everything they have into my death star. Even more fun when they charge their primarch into it.

>How much has changed?
Alpharius model soon, fellow Astartes.

>Is BL still terrible?
Kyme's flame still burns, a red-hot coal hammered in the crucible of the Heresy and beaten into unbreakable steel. Eternal in its forging and yet unbending in its manner.

You forgot cerulean blue

>Alpharius model soon, fellow Astartes.
Dorn got his model but Alpharius still hasn't?
>Kyme's flame still burns, a red-hot coal hammered in the crucible of the Heresy and beaten into unbreakable steel. Eternal in its forging and yet unbending in its manner.
The Dong Hunter still reigns.

Dorn is out, Alpharius and the Lernean are coming, the Wolves have under-slung red dot sights and banana pelts.

Angelus is pushed back and Malevolence is coming soon-ish which may mean The Khan and some WS love is inbound finally.

>Anons still believing malevolence will arrive this year or the next
At this point of delusion i bet you also believe you will escape mass extinction of humanity

Okay that sounds neat. What is Malevolence?

hopefully having some of the fluff already in place (XX, V, VI Alaxxes related shit) speeds it up.

A book solely comprised of fluff and missions rules, in the grand tradition of doing a useless book between the big releases

Minus the typically illegal void shield harness, looks pretty fun actually. The Scyllax+Magos bang bus sounds funny even if horribly overcosted

So, filler? Horus and friends go in search for a STC and the Solar Auxilary defend the STC to easy bake ovens?

BA vs Daemons, WS vs… AL and/or themselves, they didn’t really say. Also some SW vs. AL (Alaxxes)

Angelus will be DA vs. NL and Dark Mech. The DA and D. Mech rules were too much to handle right now.

>BA vs Daemons, WS vs… AL and/or themselves, they didn’t really say. Also some SW vs. AL (Alaxxes)
Wait a minute Agelus isn't Dangles and Bangles together? Fug. Now I just feel stupid.

I play scars. My troops are all scimitars (24), I'll have a Venator and an Omega, and 9 Javelins. My praetor and his squad are on scimitars. And 4 of the sky reavers with multi meltas.

It will all change if they bring out melee jetbikes for the scars.

Why would horus even bother with the stc, he already won the mechanicum with 2
>mfw 30k mechanicum are even worse than the dirtiest of sluts

Anniversary present.

It is indeed horribly overcosted. Granted it works amazingly for drawing fire away from the rest of my army. The nice part is that it can't even be tarpitted by anything really since it can ID even marines and has a shitload of attacks, with up to 26 AP 2 attacks that instant death marines.

>hey scoria i got you a present
>o-oh horus you really shouldn't have done that, h-how could i ever repay your kindness ?
>i heard rumors about your vodian staff, show me if they are true ;-)
fund it

Didn't mean to do this but I know there's a niche of people here who'd get a kick out of it.

>horus replaces his retarded maul with the vodian tuning fork

I don't think you could get more bullshit than that.

of course it end in utter dissapointment for horus as he expected the staff to be a big fucking mace, not a retarded, thin, "can't feel anything are you even there ?" fork
Also the scorpion body leaking oil on the sheets isn't helping

It was going to be. Then they looked at the feasibility of writing all that within the year and decided to table the DA and Dark Mech. The DA will have their six wings.

I expect book 8 to be pushed to the Feb. 2019 Weekender but they said they really wanted to be able to release it this year.

>not even giving it to angron for 13 attacks on ws9 that turn into d3 ap2 instant death wounds each
It's like you want the emperor to survive
although knowing angron he'd probably stick it in his head first to see if it works

Oh I think I remember hearing about that last time I was here. At least the Wings will be here.

I was looking for ideas with mechanicum lately and now I might look into hilarious ideas like this. Thank you

Can't be any worse than other ideas from some Magi.

A more practical idea might be a multi-death star build Something like

>Magos reductor w/ dual fists, rad grenades, and machinator array
>6 Scyllax
>Transport (optional)
Unit would have 6 AP 2 attacks that ID marines and 24 AP 5 attacks that ID marines on the charge. Plus a combined 14 T 5 wounds for 415 points. While expensive fielding three of these units in transports would force your opponent to dump much of his fire on three AV 15 vehicles that have a guy inside who can make repair rolls. You could use the remaining points for relatively squishy shooting units to actually kill most of the enemy army.

>taking an average boy off the street to force-feed him hormones
>when he could already buy a girl
Why ?

Well tell me about your dudes since I haven't been here in so long. Any changes?
>trying to get some fluff for a Blackshield group who later becomes a chapter of spess Romanians in the modern 40k
Because he was a de/g/enerate.

My Ordo Reductor force decided to be loyal mostly because the traitors were bothering him about his loyalty when he was trying to end a conflict.
>Go to a planet which has been under siege for months
>Advanced human civilization, it will take all my knowledge (read: phosphex) to end this conflict as quickly as possible
>Some emissaries of the warmaster arrive, asking me about who I am supporting in a civil war
>I don't give a fuck I am conquering this planet
>Guys fuck off and I begin preparing to end this siege once and for all
>Some Imperial Army guys arrive and begin attacking me because I'm not loyal to Horus
>REEEEE LET ME FIGHT THIS WAR YOU CHUCKLEFUCKS!!!!
>Destroy the attackers, end the siege with massed artillery and by converting captured traitors into lobtomized tech thralls
>Begin heading to Terra to join the traitors so I can fuck over Horus for fucking with my siege
>Fight in Siege of Terra

Good idea, I'll play around with it. Maybe post a list when I think of something

Damn, that would make a good story
>inb4 "the good, the bad and the magos"

Cool.
>>Begin heading to Terra to join the traitors so I can fuck over Horus for fucking with my siege
>>Begin heading to Terra to join the traitors so I can fuck over Horus

Find another Western to base it on.

Mistyped. Alternatively he stealthily fucks over the traitors.
>Have faith Word Bearer

Why ? You have the classic loyalist and traitor, and then you have the autistic magos who just want this shitshow to end so he can finish his siege in peace

Sounds good to me.
Because that feels easy to me. But that is just my two cents.

You are good people, I love the art for 30K

Night Lords 185th/Iron Warriors 433rd

Pulled from far outer-rim deployments, these long dispersed warriors convened at Istvaan V for history in the making. During the opening stages of The Dropsite Massacre both of these forces worked alongside one another and gunned down their previous brothers in arms as ordered. At first it seemed right, but before the advance was ordered, Warsmith Avelion struck a full blown withdrawal with his forces under the guise of a tactical change to redeploy his forces. In reality, the Warsmith was disgusted to his core when he saw the slaughter unfolding around him. He had witnessed much in his life, and this was just too much. There was no honor, no justice, and certainly no true way to justify the murder of those he once served alongside with honor. He may have been cold and calculating, but he would not slaughter those who did not deserve it. He felt this was a grave error and that they would be on the wrong side of history.

In the midst of his retreat Avelion came face to face with the brutal and fierce Captain Zhushan of the Night Lords. The Warsmith expressed his concerns and explained that he was eager to redeploy, but the Captain saw right through the Iron Warrior’s facade with a dry smile. With not so much of a hint of annoyance, the Night Lord pointed out the lie and that he would be joining the Iron Warriors with his contingent, and that he had no desire to waste his veterans against those who would not buckle before their forces. He had no illusions that this would be seen as betrayal by the other Legions, but would rather hunt the cowards who flocked to a pompous Warmaster than those who would readily die to the man for what they had built for ages. With a smile they began their combined removal from the planet with extreme prejudice. Assailed by their previous allies, the newly created force and their small contingent of vessels warp jumped to a known imperial fleet hardpoint to create their own plans.

Girls don't have feminine bepises, user.

Though I can see how you'd get confused.

I like that, user. 10/10.

>Girls don't have feminine bepises
Still doesn't make sense, he's not going to suck it, he's not going to get fucked by it and by the end of the treatment it will have shrunken to a nano scale
Should just get a girl, easier and probably cheaper

Has the MoS model always been like this? I don't remember the helmet being so big.

>ayyy lmao
Alway thought he had a regular mk4 helmet

>Should just get a girl
Sounds pretty gay desu.

I mean, she already is if she like men, so it's not a big step

I just checked FW's site. The MoS' helmet is that big. I guess it's bionics or something relating to his gear.

Well that's a good reason to never buy one, that thing is an insult to good taste

Do people even use the MoS? I know that while it has been a while since I browsed these threads that IWfags used him for their Ironfire lists.

He's pretty good for a gunline army
Ironfire list need a siege breaker for that tasty phosphex, they don't care about a once-in-a-game d3 5" pa3 pieplate when they do the same thing every turn while costing less with a medusa

Has the Ironfire become less powerful since last year or has it remained the same? Did it make the IWfags even more bitter?

Anyone else have army fluff? It is always nice to read.

Ironfire is still as powerful as ever, no marine list can top it and outside of perhaps militia and reductor i don't see how you can win

>outside of perhaps militia and reductor i don't see how you can win
Lots of heavy vehicles and/or flyers.

Some things never change. At least tell me that they're still bitter.

Bitter about Perturabo being a traitor.
>Every Iron Warriors player plays loyalists

NOTHING REALLY HAS CHANGED HERE. IT'S LIKE I NEVER LEFT.

>heavy vehicule
>when the enemy field medusas as far as the eye can see
Good luck

Debating between a Malagra or Myrmidax magos for running with them. Can give them rad furnaces as well so they don't drop T when with the scyllax, but what woild be a better combo:
-extra gun + hatred for unit
-PE(characters) for the unit

>Flare shield makes it -2 strength
>Even without a flare shield is still just strength 10 with a 36" range
Just shoot at them with lascannons or something.

>i am fielding an army comprised solely of spartans
Even a halo fan wouldn't

>Debating between a Malagra or Myrmidax magos for running with them. Can give them rad furnaces as well so they don't drop T when with the scyllax, but what woild be a better combo:
The basic idea is to keep them as cheap as possible. Even the machinator arrays are less for +1 T and more for the two +1 strength attacks. Also scyllax only lower the T of enemy troops. However, this current concept is just a concept so feel free to test out ideas or throw out my ideas as you see fit.
>-extra gun + hatred for unit
The unit's primary purpose isn't shooting though, its main job is to be an assault unit that can scare anything short of a primarch (and even squishy primarchs should still be nervous around it). As for which ones you choose it is a personal choice, although I would tend to prefer cheaper ones the main reason I chose magos reductor is so I would only have to make one unit and copy it as opposed to making a malagra unit, a myrmidax unit, and a reductor lead unit.

>I'm fielding an army where my vehicles that can be threatened by a medusa don't need to get within 36" of a medusa.
Shooting at AV 14 a medusa needs 4+ to glance or pen it. Hardly a reliable way of killing vehicles. Just get a deredeo, sicaran venator, sicaran battle tank, or hell even a fucking autocannon predator. Its only an AV 12 vehicle there are a million ways to kill it.

Is Cruzefag still around or did someone finally put her down?