So Riptides are making a comeback, what are some good counter-tactics?
Christopher Murphy
reminder that GW NA are fuckups.
reposting in new bread:
>year and a half ago >decide to go to my local warhammer store, to pick up a few models based on units I liked in dawn of war and fluff >told, going in, that the GW staff are super aggressive >instead, have a long conversation about a world I was just starting to develop interest in >his actual love and enthusiasm inspired me to buy more models >now I have 4 armies and spend several hours a week playing games at the store >said store owner suddenly quit, letting the temp guy take over, while being groomed to take over >NA GW proceeded to be a total cunt, stringing the guy along for 3 months >the former store owner finally opened up about what he was dealing with behind the scenes
fuck me. Most of the community from the store is now boycotting the store, we're going to FLGS instead.
which is a shame because the other ones are a good half hour extra commute.
Brandon Diaz
Are primaris marines as close to movie marines as you can get?
Carter Wilson
INDEED FELLOW BURGER POSTER
Joseph Evans
*blocks your path*
Brayden Bell
-1 to hit. shoot them. punch them.
Thomas Parker
I plan to Jinx them and then hit em with the old double hemlock set up.
Easton Clark
Tonight's thread topic:
Which army has the most interesting backstory?
I've always been a fan of the backstory of the Eldar myself, how all that's left is a few scattered fragments of their race floating on these massive crystalline ships through space. Plus their warhosts and the Avatar are really cool.
Mason Gray
>tfw i just got the prime ork pun
Easton Ross
*flies over path*
Christian Howard
I think the concept of the eldar path is really cool, as well as this idea that their language is heavily based on non verbal gestures but none of the fluff seems to really do justice to either
Matthew Sullivan
Man, I hope my GW store manager isn't going through this sort of hell. He's pretty cool aside from pushing marine merch a little too hard and his store is never dead. For all that's good about America, our corporate culture is fucking ass.
Jayden Hill
I’m not sure about backstory, but the Deldar fluff has always been awesome to me. From the dark city to realspace piracy, everything they do just follows the Rule is Cool to near perfection >t. Taufag
Isaac Brown
your dudes have the most interesting backstory
Cameron Watson
Squats.
Jacob Lopez
Our groups just gonna start going to the LGS if this shit happens
Connor Myers
>no analog in fantasy >functioning communism >not fantasy
Grayson Harris
You're alright, user.
Eli Watson
What's the best artillery for IG? Is it still Basilisk, or is the Wyvern a good one too?
Noah Ross
For me it's the AdMech and it's part of why I got into them. They're a secretive theocracy that pays lipservice loyalty to the Emperor and goes about looking for secret old technology that they don't know how to work, but believe in pseudo-scientific magitech when things just happen to work and try religious means when tech doesn't work.
Adam Watson
Basilisks and Manticores.
Gavin Robinson
Going to be entering a tournament soon with Guard. I have no idea what I'll be going up against, but I've gone up against Eldar with -1/-2 to hit and Mortarion with -1 to hit and I lost to both. Are Tank Commanders worth it for their improved BS in this situation? I want Hellhounds, but I don't have access to them, I just have access to double Heavy Flamer Chimeras.
Any advice for tournament scenes?
Matthew Price
Depending on where you are in the US that is unfortunately not an option. My city is cursed.
David Peterson
Russfag here that had his recast shit broken on purpose by the store manager after he cleaned, and painted it. I sent a letter to GW about him just breaking my shit and whatever else happened and I'm waiting to see what they do about it. Anyone know what I should expect?
Eli Morgan
Necrons. They dug quite the hole for themselves with their technological pursuits. Also how the weapons they created to shatter the C'tan is quite fascinating to ponder about, what effect they must have had on the Necrons themselves as well that they had to go into hibernation because of them.
Jaxon Parker
Dark lances. Or -1 to hit venoms and wait for the mortal wounds to kill them.
Tyler Stewart
Our LGS is like 30 minutes away, so its a bit of a hassle but we'd be down if it meant we could play with whatever we wanted and not have to have shit pushed on us.
Blake Cruz
Mortal wounds. They're pretty tough, especially if they get first turn with that 3++. Tau have no way to stop you from smiting the shit out of their suits, though.
Ayden Barnes
Laughter?
Jackson Gutierrez
Just punch the cunt in the face, see how he tries to justify himself to the police when he's breaking your property
Joshua Martinez
What was broken exactly?
Luis Moore
>Salutes the venerable warrior
Benjamin Kelly
PSA
Tau are eldar lite with mecha flavoring and a dollop of communism
Christian Young
>ignores cover on ML chart now 3 instead of 4 How is this supposed to be bad? Everyone seems to claim this is a nerf, but IMO this seems strictly better than the other one (which you can get extremely easily in a number of other ways anyway)
Chase Collins
I don't know Guard well enough to offer a lot of competitive list building advice. That said I can offer some general tournament advice:
>Know the Scenarios, Practice them A major element of most tournaments is playing to the scenario and playing inside the time limit. One of the things you can do to speed this up and succeed is to practice the missions so when you get there day of you know exactly what you're going to do.
>Get you some pre-sort dice Time limits are a thing. I buy several different colored dice and break them out into quantities of common roles. So for example I have 20 dice for my cultists (because they shoot in multiples of 20) and then I have 15 different dice for my Plaguebearers (because its a 30 man unit), this can really help speed up your game.
>Watch Battle Reports Spend some time watching battle reports online. You may not get to play everything but battle reports can really key you in on what's strong, what's doing well, and you can see how you might have to deal with them.
Hope this helps!
Joseph Gutierrez
He snapped Russ' axe, and made that cut into the scenic base you see there. Its a pretty deep cut.
See, I really would have if the faggot wasn't a marine
Levi Rogers
How have you not migrated to an LGS already? GW stores are fucking tiny where I am in CA and they only attract middle school kids and autists.
Landon Murphy
>Redemptor dreadnought >half again the points value of a regular boxnaught >really just an armful of heavy bolter dice >anti-tank option is unreliable amount of dakka >stat reduction means it only takes 7 wounds for it to become ineffective >D6 damage fist means it can underperform regular dreads in close combat >still only 4 attacks in CC >no smoke launchers >no invul save despite cost
>most poseable dreadnought model >easy build version is cheaper than all others >massive conversion potential Why must I be tormented like this
Camden Davis
Tau are weeaboo space commies hastily slapped together to replace the glorious Squats. Only the most raging faggots ever liked the Tau from Day One.
Logan Jackson
It's literally in walking distance is the only reason
Tyler Roberts
Would getting a trojan and/or salamander to support my baneblade be too WAAC in casual play?
Ethan Flores
>just letting it happen at some point it becomes your fault
Blake Lopez
t.Assblasted Grognard
Luke Nelson
But see, here's what happened. I walked outside with a buddy to my car real quick to grab something. Didn't realize when I came back that some faggot had dug in my models and pulled him out. It stayed there over night and thats when the manager got suspicious and started fucking with it. He couldn't tell the difference, so he decided to fucking break it.
Xavier Wilson
I'm operating on too few hours of sleep to read and understand all of that, TL;DR it for me someone?
Ryder Foster
I can honestly say that I would prefer to ignore penalties sooner than ignore a +1 to armor save that the opponent may not even be benefiting from. With a BS 4+, having a -1 is really annoying to deal with when advancing if I fail to get my third markerlight on a target.
Bentley Long
what happened prior to him breaking it?
Joseph Sullivan
destruction of property is a legal case. .
Leo Parker
what if it wasnt a recast tho
Jacob Parker
Where are you hearing that? The leaks I saw said that the ML table wasn't getting any changes at all.
Thomas Morris
Warhammer Fantasy. The setting, not a genre.
Gavin Cruz
I feel you man, while I feel the redemptor brings a good amount of firepower to the table it's just too damn fragile for its cost, at least give it something like T8 and 2+ especially considering the lore describes it as being more heavily armored than regular dreadnoughts
I have one, I love how it looks but it's just too mediocre. I wonder if people would be okay with me proxying it as a leviathan?
Connor Baker
>GW treated store owner like garbage when he was trying to foster a local community >all the shit he was dealing with led him to needing therapy >finally quit, handed the reins to the temp guy >temp guy was strung along for 3 months, working minimum wage for full time hours >after all that, screwed out of the job
Oliver Garcia
My only other option is a shithole store that's a model train shop with like 4 tables that are covered in the detritus of their weird consignment store. Also if you're anywhere in southern CA you're majorly spoiled for good FLGSs.
James Bailey
GW in the Americas are shit lickers who try to run things like Walmart and piss everyone off in the process.
Gavin Torres
Has anyone got the audiobook files for the beast arises?
Kayden Martin
Considering just backstory rather than overall lore, then I guess the Imperium as a whole has the edge on grounds of how in depth it's been covered. AdMech and SoB are particularly interesting though, whereas SM and IG are pretty meh. Aside from that, the whole War in Heaven and the fall of the Eldar after that make for some real cool stories.
My favorite faction are the Tau, but their backstory is fairly straightforward.
Juan Stewart
Lemme guess, he's also a guard player ?
Chase Brooks
For the carapace and the weapons I would go with black. Makes the green pop more.
Ethan Foster
What am I gonna do take him to court for $25?
Exactly why I sent a letter to GW
see nah bangles
Christopher Nelson
I think I read it on the Tau subreddit somewhere, I don't immediately remember.
Matthew Scott
Is this the start of yet another chain where people get assblasted about the Tau being none of those things and other people show they know nothing about the lore but memes?
Isaac Campbell
Does vallejo produce a decent blue-black color? Something like tyre black or corax black?
Jonathan Bennett
It'd end up too dark. Old school genestealer grey complete with drybrushing could work though.
Ryder Scott
I keep rereading that to see if it's got something special to it, but it really is just a more restrictive version of the reroll a die stratagem.
Was there any reason for him to suspect it was a recast? Does he now know for sure it is a recast? Because breaking other people's potential legit FW models is just... well, maybe not reason enough to shoot the guy, but ...
Owen Bennett
>love the chunky smol boxnoughts >hear the rumours of a new dreadnought and get worried about it making them obsolete >model is gangly and awkward >rules are decidedly mediocre >fluff has it literally kill its occupants part of me is sad there's a plastic dreadnought I don't like the look of, but the other part of me is glad I don't have to buy a bunch of new dreadnoughts
Brody Perry
Literally only thing putting him off was me saying I didn't have a receipt for it.
Nicholas Hughes
Tau are meme edition is the title of the thread.
Ryan Hernandez
allows you to save your 'reroll any dice' for later.
Joshua Cruz
From the Guard perspective: They get one unit per turn that's gunna have 6 gimped lascannon shots or 18 Assault cannon shots. So brace to lose 3/4 of an infantry unit or about half a tank per turn. The rest will either novacharge the gun in which case focus fire it, or they'll novacharge the shields in which case ignore it or even charge it while it's firepower is still low.
I wish they'd release the new points rebalance already. The wait is killing me and I'd really like to just rebuild my list and get it over with!
Carter Collins
You get to use your re-roll a dice stratagem on a different roll.
Jayden Johnson
I mean, taking him to court is a meme but letting it go is also a meme. what if HQ tells you to eat a dick?
Leo Rogers
pfffff fuck i don't think i have a receipt for any of my legitimate FW stuff.
if someone started breaking my shit on that basis I'd be livid
Wyatt Morris
>people show they know nothing about the lore m8 I have a stack of White Dwarfs from the early 90's around here somewhere. I remember a time when army-specific codices weren't a thing and if you wanted more dudes, you played Epic.
Matthew Edwards
lets be real he probably had suspicions for another reason, I'm guessing he didn't ask for receipts for literally every other model
Caleb Smith
What the fuck can I do though?
I know right? The fucker almost told me to eat a dick when I brought in an actual fw boxnaught, took a friend telling him to fuck off about it that he let me bring it in.
Brody Jackson
Kek, catachans do it for free
Kayden Carter
The trojan+superheavy combo is a REALLY powerful thing to bring, user. Baneblade isn't as bad as shadowsword, but still you owe it to the other guy to at least warn him in advance because if he's not prepared the game will be really unfun for him.
So yes, too good for casual unless the other guy knows and plans for it.
>t. doubletrackIGfaggot
Austin Powell
But see, he did. He's asked other people for receipts before that were legit FW stuff.
Matthew Sullivan
I don't know what a T'au is, nor do I play warhammer. But reading that title for the first time made me assume you were speaking some strange dialect of french I've never seen.
Levi Nelson
I'll keep that in mind user. Thanks. I love my baneblade, and it usually puts in work, but I wanted to get rid of the last vestiges of souping.
Jordan Brooks
Thought as much. The Wyvern looked good for anti-infantry blobs, but it has too short of a range for me.
Camden Sanchez
well that sounds like not a fun store at all. idk what you can do about it tho. maybe create incentive for GW to get another manager?
Luis Nguyen
That's a silly assumption, why would anyone be speaking French when there's an alternative?
Owen Gray
>What the fuck can I do though? You can take him to court, call him a cunt, complain to HQ, or fucking murder him and use his skeleton to fashion a chair. You don't have a lot of options because that last one is still illegal in most countries.
Angel Lewis
Mess with his community, start a rumor with him breaking your models to pieces if you don't bring a receipt, bash his store on normiebook, he can't do shit either
John Adams
I would like to thank all the autists for the (you)s from the previous threads. I had a blast and almost filled my quota for the day.
Jonathan Allen
Tau are memes, and memes are the soul of the nation. The memes of tau'va will spread and blind the chaos of the galaxy with blinding hot hope and plasma-fire.
Brandon Watson
I personally take all-tank commanders though another recommended configuartion is all tank commanders except 1 (using inspired tactics to order that 1 regular).
A Battle Cannon firing at 77% accuracy all the time is awesome. Also consider the plasma cannon and just constantly overheat it with the reroll; you gain AP at the expense of range for a more reliable 2 damage instead of D3. Me personally I prefer the look and function of the BC since it can hit anywhere on the board it can see. Plus, anything with a feel-no-pain is going to negate the advantages of 2D over d3D.
Remember the -1 to hit is generally from a distance greater than 12". Vostroyans can counter with a +1BS strategem, and Catachans are almost as good in melee as in shooting.
Cooper Hughes
It went to shit as soon as he started losing sales in the awkward period where 8th was announced so no one wanted to buy anything
I've done everything there short of murder and taking him to court cause I don't wanna risk taking someone to court over a $25 model.
Definitely done this already, told the regulars and dudes in the shop about him breaking my shit and they all think he's a cunt and buy from somewhere else.
Samuel Myers
filename checks out
David Howard
That should also be reason enough to give GW a call and complain about his behavior. Like, does he also constantly ask for to see your drivers permit? What an ass.
I'd still insist your model is legit FW and demand he buys you a new one, or your report him to GW HQ. Then report him anyway
Chase Moore
>2018 >still believing frenchniggers won't invade the civilised world as soon as they get out of their shitholes
Owen Watson
Actually FW still have receipt of what you purchased on their website. Go to your account and check it.
Nathan Sullivan
I ordered all my FW through a local store, there's no trace of this. not the guy with the broken russ tho
Ian Edwards
thats assuming the dude didn't buy it in person like I did
Yep, they've already started an investigation into the whole thing. Not sure if its gonna lead anywhere, wish the fucker would lose his job though.
David Murphy
If the alternative is exterminatus of the darkies that's just one more reason to never speak French.