40k Lore Discussions

Two questions
Do you ever stop killing innocent lifeforms that just want peace and why do you overcompensate with really fat armor

Who the fuck are you asking

All of 40k that participates in barbaric fighting.

Did T'au get new FTL? I've heard some people talk about it, but can someone confirm?

All we know is the tau did "something" to send a group to the other side of the galaxy, with the implication being they did something shady or struck a dark bargain to do so.

Do you want a waaagh? Because that's how you get a waaagh.

My money is on Necrons, Ynnari or DE.

I know about the missing 4th sphere expansion, but it some kind if structure, or a space station of sorts that helped them achive even faster FTL than before.

What does the average citizen know about the state of Big E? What does the average member of the administratum, ecclesiarchy, astra militarum, and astartes know about his state? And what do the higher ups in each of the previously mentioned know?

Surely people are not working 24/7, 7 days a weeks, right? Wouldnt there not be a need for stores and the like? Or is that actually a thing and there are no stores with everyone getting their shit mailed to them by machine pigeon or some shit? Barring agri-worlds, pleasure worlds, medieval worlds, and others that are likely not nearly as visited/populous what would the average week consist of for the laborer of an average hive world and a hive world that is in/near a system that had the luck of a benevolent (or at least competent and honorable) primarch, saint, or other such figure?

Does exterminatus happen as much as people say it does or is it just a meme blown completely out of proportion?

Do members of the adepta sororitas take vows of chastity or are they able to have sex but choose not to because purging heretics is much more sexually satisfying? Asking for a friend who constantly brings this shit up for "lol XD" reasons but me or no one else can never refute him since we cant find a source pointing to either

Nah it's the 5th sphere.

Could be, could also be blindly trusting a chaos merchant. Lots of options, considering they initially welcomed a goddamn genestealer cult.

>believing the flat galaxy theory

custodes are gay fag shit.

It could be some halo artifact, or old ones construct of sorts

No. 40k races are all mindless idiots who can't give peace a chance and are horribly bigoted

>No. 40k races are all mindless idiots who can't give peace a chance and are horribly bigoted
Peace is an illusion. Pretending otherwise is the first step on the road to being betrayed.

Fuck off, Khorne.

Biological incompatability of a human servitor head with an orkoid body means that it wouldn't work.
Using servitor implants on an ork also wouldn't work, as the Orkoid Waaagh Field means that Orks interact with technology in unpredictable ways.
The implants would be more likely to produce a smarter and more controlled Wierdboy sub-caste , eventually leading to Wierd-Nobz and Wierd-Bosses assuming control of ork society SIMPLY BECAUSE THE ORKS BELIEVE THAT THE SERVITOR IMPLANTS ARE THE EQUIVALENT OF A TECH PRIEST'S CORTICAL IMPLANTS!

And if I were to create such a society and then ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL?

What are some imperial swear words

The tau didn't do anything. It got sucked into the warp storms from the great rift and got spat out on the other side of the Galaxy

The servitor implants would not give you control over the Orks because THEY don't believe that they're control circuits. When I said "smarter and more controlled", I should've specified both self control AND control over their abilities.

Can eldar just decide to be edgy for a 100 years and be a dark eldar and then become clown for the next century and then back to eldar?

Craftworld to Dark sure, not sure the craftworlds would take them back, but I'm pretty sure Harlequin is a lifetime commitment.

Oh god, I'll just have made 40K Azhag.
>"STOP WHISPERIN AT ME CROWN!"

Use google translate to turn words into Latin

Feg
Or maybe thats just Tanith.

No wait Feth!
"A FETHIN COLOUR'S BAND?!"

Frak is super popular

Frak is from Battlestar Gallactic. Such knowledge is prohibited by the order of the Ordo Kinematicus

GROXDROP (aka bullshit)

What would a high level/personally powerful Ecclesiarchy Crusader we able to do? Is he aged out? Just really well trained? Does it all come down to crazy equipment?

I mean as far as the rug or just the lire goes.

Unless he has Pure Faith and can perform Miracles then he's just a bloody persuasive old priest with a very fancy flamer

I assume those things require being a psyker?

according to the Fantasy flight fluff and a ciaphas cain book, their is no vow of chastity it just doesnt come up as they are mostly on duty in a gender segregated environment.

Same question but would it be ok to use an Oryge body to make a servitor? What if you used a Tau body instead would that be tech heresy?

No, they are inherently non-psyker; in the RPGs they are activated by spemding Fate points, a renewable resource that all PCs have that let them rerol shit or boost the likelihood of success on rolls.

Pure Faith creates a tangible connection between the person's soul and the Emperor, and Miracles are the manifestation of this absolute devotion to the Emperor as humanity's one true God. Where and how aren't particularly understood, and part of that is the Ecclesiarchy's inherent opposition to investigating miracles rather than taking them at face value as the intervention of God. People with these powers are called Living Saints and the majority are especially devout Sisters of Battle who die in combat as Martyrs and then return to life with these new powers.

Of course your Crusader could also be a sanctioned psyker, the Soul Ward Discipline in Rogue Trader lets you use your powers to bathe allies in the golden blessings of the Emperor, and to punish heretics by channeling his divine fury against them.

It is double heresy. Sullying both humanity and machine by uniting it with the alien.

Thanks a lot for the info guys, always been something I've been confused about in 40k lore.

Ogryn body with servitor implants is ok , since Ogryn are Abhumans, ie. mutated but stable offshoot of humanity.
Tau would be heresy, and would require both detailed knowledge about their physiology and detailed knowledge of how to modify the implants to work, which is even more heresy.

Does Terra have IG or is it all murines and custodes

Probably not based on Terra, but I assumed there's regiments of IG in the hundreds of ships blockading the system

I want to discuss this readcomiconline.to/Comic/Warhammer-40-000-Will-of-Iron/Issue-12?id=130651
read the whole thing if you want to, but specifically the end, what the fuck do you think about the ending, I do love the plot about the changer of ways, that's so fucking tzeentchy I love it, but I felt like the final battle with fallen vs interro. chaplain was so fucking dumb and pointless, and the daemonhost ending was so fucking wasted. and then the warp bomb, was such a "rocks fall everyone dies except the super evil baddie" wasted ending, like really, it could have been handled WAY better than just killing everyone should I just make my own thread about this?

Are there any loyalist xeno?

Not en masse, but there are individuals and groups within the xenos hoards which serve the Imperium faithfully. Sanctioned Kroot and rational Eldar amongst them

The entire Jokaero species otherwise xenos can be sanctioned on a individual basis, but have to keep out of imperial world. On frontier worlds there is quite the exchange between humans and xenos.

I don't think Jokaero count they just follow insquistors who give them bananas

Jokaero are as loyal to humans as dogs are to humans.

>bananas survived millennia of wars
this is the real revelation here.

*BLAM*

Bananas are almost going extinct IRL, any trees that survive to the 41st millennium would be treasured so jealously that entire worlds would burn to protect them

Who was more evil, Horus or Lorgar ? I think it was ultimately Lorgar, granted not by much.

The Beast series named some Terran regiments. They exist.

What novels are actually canon right now? i know Dark Imperium and some aspects of Devastation of baal but I'm not sure about Emperor Legion

> No, the reason that the Squats were dropped was because the creatives in the Studio (people like me, Rick, Andy C, Gav etc) felt that we had failed to do the Dwarf 'archetype' justice in its 40K incarnation. From the name of the race (Squats - what *were* we thinking?!?!) through to the short bikers motif, we had managed to turn what was a proud and noble race in Warhammer and the other literary forms where the archetype exists, into a joke race in 40K.

Jervis can get fucked imo

>the blood angels codex said some elements of the 4th sphere of expansio ended up near the baal system and when they were colonizing some of it's planets the Blood Angels and the Flesh Tearers destroyed them

so this the power of the T'au '''""Empire"'""

So like if a traitor marine has a change of heart and wants to go back and fight for the emprah what are his options?

Damn, now i want to know more about that

They didn't destroy them. They kicked them out of a system but the fighting continues on.

It will be interesting to see how these T'au enclaves scattered around the galaxy will develop chaos T'au

galaxy will be saved by the power of idorus
youtube.com/watch?v=__GHpmdmJu0&t=0s

In the 40k setting probably suicide.

30k truly were the best of times.

Deathwatch or possibly some loyalist chapter stemming from the geneseed of a traitor primarch. Or he could pretend to be a Black Templar and just infiltrate them.

Deathwatch black shield definitely or if it's during combat he turns around and starts attacking his former allies.

>And so, The Potassium Crusades have begun

>or if it's during combat he turns around and starts attacking his former allies.
That'd get him shot by both sides. Loyalists would think it's just another Khornite gone mad.

That's actually mainly because they are all clones and there are pathogens like root fungus that kill the bananas, and since they are clones they lack the genetic diversity to fight it off.

However that's only true of the Cavendish banana. There are other types of banana out there.

How much would the average Imperial citizen know about the Primarchs, both loyalist and traitor?

Is it part of the dogma that Horus turned or would that shit be uber-heresy?

Granted, a million worlds in the Imperium proubaby have a million different versions of the Faith but I've always wondered.

t. Ludendorff

Everyone would know about all loyal primarchs, for sure, since there are statues of them everywhere. I also believe most would know about Horus the Archtraitor, but some of the books have given a bit mixed signals. For instance, in one of the grey knights book, they kill and sterilize millions just because they fought against chaos and Angron on Armageddon, and knowledge about both was deemed unacceptable. In other books, they often curse the name Horus, indicating that they know who he is. They probably know that he is the reason the emperor sits on the golden throne in the first place. Of course, most imperials have only vague knowledge about anything, since nobody cares enough to teach them any better.

The angel, painglove man and the furry are usually the most popular.
Of course Rowboat probably got a big rise in popularity now

Depend. What is evil?

If we follow the idea that God(or gods) define what is good and evil, just and unjust, then Horus is more evil, because Lorgar was merely following the orders of the true gods.

I'm working my way through the Gaunt's Ghosts series, and I'm fascinated by the world of Gereon, the role of the Blood Pact/Sons of Sek, and Chaos "society" in general. I found it very interesting that Urlock Gaur and his forces knew so little about Imperial society that there was a position, ethnologue, established to learn as much about the enemy as possible.

In the reverse, what is life like for an "average" citizen on a Chaos world? It can't all be blathering wretches, oppressed masses and cults, right? At least the politicians, generals, and other higher-ups meeting on Gereon seemed relatively civilized, in their own way. Are there Chaos home worlds, or simply Chaos-occupied planets?

I'm relatively new to 40k, but would appreciate if anyone else has some reading recommendations or info about the Lost and the Damned, etc.!

>what is life like for an "average" citizen on a Chaos world?
Depend on the planet and who rules over it. There are some "nice" planets in the Screaming Vortex

>I'm relatively new to 40k, but would appreciate if anyone else has some reading recommendations or info about the Lost and the Damned, etc.!
Aaron Bowden's Nightlords series is probably the best three books in whole WH40k. I personally don't like just about any Abnet's books due to his insistence on telling stories from the POV of boring and inconsequential characters, and especially because his space marines are girly pansies, who train for centuries just to get killed by a lasgun to the head.

Bowden's space marines, however, are gritty killing machines with exceptionally interesting personalities. I especially like how his space marines tend to get their armors gradually blown to pieces while still continuing to fight. Other authors make me often wonder why space marines would even bother to wear any armor, since some random imperial guard will just shoot them in the head killing them instantly. The first book of the Gray Knights is the most awful example of this: In it a bunch of medieval knights overpower a squad of Gray Knights, killing two of them. The most elite warriors of the most elite super humans of the fortieth millenium dying to a bunch of primitive warriors?!

Sorry for the rant. The Nightlords series is extremely good. Lord of the Knight and Prince of Crows are also great, and they also tell about Nightlords. Helsreach tells about loyalist Black Templars, but their zealotry makes you like loyalists again. Here is a great fanmade 'movie' about the book: youtu.be/SUplioG2DC4

>he believes chaos gods are true gods and that makes Lorgar less evil
Retard alert. I'm talking about truthful standards of justice.

>truthful standards of justice.
u wot? Is it immoral to kill an Eldar, if you're a human? What truthful standard of justice would answer that question?

I just read the books Rogue Star and Star of Damocles by Hoare. They were garbage. Are there any good rogue trader books?

The Tau Empire has human populated planets. What do they do with human psykers? How do they police chaos cults? If traitor humans worship the "greater good", will that create a Greater Good Warp being?

>What do they do with human psykers? How do they police chaos cults?
They get disappeared.
As for the second, no, it requires far more investiture.

>will that create a Greater Good Warp being?
If they start ritually sacrificing people for the greater good, sure. It would eventually happen.

How does the schola select who gets to be what?
Like if a guy is a really good shot he's a stormtrooper or like if a girl really hates daemons they make her an inquisitor instead of a sob?

Due to warp being the warp tau humans make the a greater good being in the warp. Again due to the warp it become corrupted. Turns into a HFY deamon that runs trains on the tau and attacks from the inside.

By personality and combat proficiency mostly.

The timeless standards you believe in, not those in-universe.

Inquisitors don't come from the schola.
Inquisitors select their own Interrogators and them can nominate them for an Iquisitorial position

Is attaching more vat grown arms on a servitor fair game? I mean mech bits are expensive but a human arm? Thaat shits just layin around

Would it be okay to kill a sentient alien, then? There is no such thing as timeless standard for morality. In the west, we have Christianity. Even atheists, like me, get most of their morality from it, but there are numerous other value systems across the world as well.

Those values that truly are universal and inside all humans are made by evolution, and they are very simple: Do whatever you can to advance the survival of your own genes. By that morality alone, it wouldn't even be immoral to kill a member of another race. Torture of a kitten would not be immoral either.

How does the Mechanicus land Titans on a planet? Do their huge transport ships land on the ground? Or do they ferry titans one at a time?

wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Heavy_Transport

I assume he meant Commissar