Previously on Modern General: "Dominaria discussion continued" Edition
Dominaria release notes: magic.wizards.com
>Playing
>Hating
>Brewing
>Thread question
Aside from the obvious Damping Sphere, what cards do you have your eyes on as being Modern playables, if any? How do you think the meta will shake up based on what we've seen so far?
RESOURCES:
>metagame
mtggoldfish.com
mtgtop8.com
>Search Engines
scryfall.com
magiccards.info
gatherer.wizards.com
Other urls found in this thread:
pastebin.com
channelfireball.com
mtggoldfish.com
mtggoldfish.com
mtggoldfish.com
mtggoldfish.com
scryfall.com
tappedout.net
twitter.com
If you want to look at budget decks, start here:
pastebin.com
If you have a budget deck to add, reply with a link and I'll add it to the list. Feel free to ask questions.
That's sweet man, I'll be sure to add that to the OP next time.
>storm
>le imb4 combo impossible to counter mechanic deck
>never won ANY gp
>struggles to get one top8 every year
>most banned cards ever
>wotc still printing hate cards for it
h-hello? what's the deal here? why does wotc hate it so much?
how can people call this deck tier 1 if it doesn't win or dominates anything?
>draw your sideboard the format
>top decks perfect hate card
>"nothing personnel, kid"
Besides Damping Sphere, is there anything useful in this edition?
I haven't looked too hard at the set notes, but Wizards Lightning is the only care that stood out to me. Of course, that's because I'm a filthy Burnfag and Grim Lavamancer is one of my all-time favorites.
Everyone's opinion on Bloodbraid Elf?
Is it like Jace, and not actually a big deal?
Too random for my taste.
Works good in zoo tho.
>Todd Stevens flumping out of SCG opens because he forces himself to play Jace, believing the card is legitimately busted in Modern
LMAO
Why does Liliana look like a Sailor Moon villain?
Poor guy :(
Nonetheless I do believe in a U/Gx TurboJace meme. Jim Davis and Todd Stevens lists aren't quite there IMO, same as Guillaume's whackass Bant controlly version (although he went in a very interesting direction and some of those ideas may indeed have merit).
channelfireball.com
The machine needs assembling but I feel like the cards are there, and if they aren't they may well be there in the future. I posted a weird U/G turbomeme here the other day, upon playing it the deck wasn't quite there, but still felt like the makings of something real.
I got fucked by tron, jeskai control, and jeskai in different flavour today.
Such a fucking nice day.
Fuck 5c humans
mtggoldfish.com
Should I get this deck or is it just a meme? Looks fun to play
mtggoldfish.com
Is the Non-budget version worth it? Looks like a really fun deck to play and have an interesting learning curve. Also i really want to see the opponents reaction IRL
>mtggoldfish.com
Looks like a really fun deck. Do you already have some of the cards? If you want to build other decks like Delver or Jeskai Control in the future, it's a good investiment. I'm really just all in for people who want to play Blue in 2018.
I have most of the expensive cards, but Disrupting Shoal seems like a dubious investment.
I agree that it is kind of a dubious investment, and i don't feel like it fits on this deck at all. For what i know, Disrupting Shoal only spiked in value because people think it's a good way to protect your Jace when you tap out for him. I think that playing 4x Remands instead would be ok, but that's your choice.
I was gone for a week in an area with no internet, did anything interesting happen?
Jace is meme, and Bloodbraid actually is what many people feared Jace would be.
DOMINARIA LEAKS
how bad has BBE gotten?
we were out and about most of the time i was away so i was trying to look at news, but my cell reception was shit too, but i managed to look at the release notes, any cards spike your guy's interests
>Any cards spike your guy's interests
>new modern open
Oh baby
>commentated by Ryan Overturf and Matthias Hunt
Again?
What is the best Serum Visions art?
i renember seeing that card in the notes, i saw it and thought
"that was underwhelming as fuck, and i don't even play tron"
It's a Colorless 4 CMC Planeswalker that gives you card advantage. I think it's pretty good.
Robot on intravenous drugs all day every day.
what would he see play in though?
I don't think they could have made a colorless 4CMC walker much better otherwise it would have been the next copter in Standard.
They could have made it at a much higher CMC though.
>bukake
what were they thinking desu?
>robot on crack
w/e i guess
>mage having visions
obvious choice
True,and also true they could have buggered up the CMC too, but i was expecting something big, because you know, karnfather and all...
I really like the bukkake art, but OG is nice too.
damping sphere against storm and tron is the obvious choice out of Dominaria for Modern
Oh cool anti tron tech
It's called Semen Visions for a reason, but Gin-Jan Augurman shooting up some inkmoth juice is fine too.
wow thanks for insight
Is it just me or does Teferi look actually pretty strong?
>can get rid of any problematic permanent
>can 1+ on turn 5 while having removal/counterspell mana up
>decent ultimate
Well, if you already have a wizard in the game by the time he come in, you can guarantee a wizard's counterspell with his +1
This card seems so good
Modern wizard tribal?
Well, the wizard counter is in dominaria.
I don't know how viable it is on modern.
Gonna start foiling this out soon lads, what’s your take?
>foiling
Save your money.
Better than Jace.
Because despite all the hate and bannings it hasn't gone away.
flawed argument. you are implying that if a deck is bad enough it will go away. which certainly isn't the case considering people still play soul sisters and other garbage like emeria control.
At least they stopped banning it. I don't think the Probe ban was aimed at storm but they probably weren't very sad that it got hit by it.
i mean, we do have some pieces
Teferi (hooman version)
Voidmage prodigy
Master of waves
wizard replica
We have stuff to work with
I'm going to brewing UR Wizard Counter-Burn. The deck is there, I just need to find it.
I could see him as a 1 of in affinity sideboard for grindy matchups.
we need to see what pieces were graced with in dominaria
Mmmmm. What would be the wincon?
Teferi is useful by itself, but it really isn't "game-winning".
All those guys, besides the Master, just stall the game.
The gameplan is to counter everything and then slam master of waves for lethal?
I'd need to see more.
What's a good deck for someone that doesn't like spending money on cards?
i would love it if we had acess to Onslaught block, that was the wizard tribal block
Is willbender legal? we could use meddling mage or the one bird that cycles to give a stifle+cantrip
See
There are a number of decks thst can be built for less than $100. Alternatively play Pauper were almost every deck is around $50.
Willbender is modern legal, he was reprinted as a timeshifted card during Time Spiral.
we can use him for misdirection tactics
Hmmmm.
Again, what's the wincon?
We can counter anything, yes, but then what?
Wizard decks wins by milling the other guy?
Let's dive a little deeper in the scryfall to see potentially game winning wizard cards.
Also, you gotta remember that wizards come in EVERY color.
Yes, the majority is blue, but this is humans levels of variety.
Jeskai wizards using red burn spells and tempo plays.
What's a deck where I can roleplay as Innistrad Lily?
Spell it out for me. I can't see how it would play out.
mtggoldfish.com
Almost any will do.
I'm just spitballing based off of wizards I know and that there's gonna be a wizard bolt and counterspell. Could be a thing.
Hmmmm. Sure.
Yeah, this needs some time in the lab to get what it can do. We got Baral recently, this could be a thing.
I'd like to see how it is, definitely would be a tempo deck. Might be cool to play with, possibly just a tier 2 deck, maybe tier 1.5. Still would be fun.
Maybe something flash related. Lots of wizards with flash.
>Counter their important stuff,
>remove their important stuff with a mix of the wizard bolt, bolt and willbender triggers (along with others)
>Lock them out with teferi and liberal use of reflector mage
>Swing for lethal via master of waves
Id say this is suiting up to be a fun deck, flashing in stuff like reflector mages or a surprise Master of waves will be great at least, Aven Mind censor would be GOAT, whats the name of the one bird that when you cycle it you get a stifle?
But still, lets look to the incoming set to give us more pieces,
Supreme inquisitor reprint please god
Affinity player here, 4CC is generally very high but people have already experimented with 1-2 Hazoret in the 75 and it works. I was considering Karn because not only does he +1 as soon as he comes down, but if he dies, it's a 2 for 1 that discarded enemy removal and drew you one, if he survives, he just starts shitting out even more cards or anthem-less Master of Etheriums.
Seems like a really good card in Affinity, other than costing 1 too much mana.
I went 2-0-1 with this deck tonight
mtggoldfish.com
Should add to the pastebin. Filled with Mordern staples for removal as well.
I've gone through the pastebin and all the links in there for ideas.
I've got a set of Bloodbraid Elf and other stuff, and wanted to see what budget things I could do with with. I'm just going through mtgsalvation, but do you think I should even bother with this?
It does look interesting, but a similar deck, Faeries, gets some wins because all the faeries also have flying and can hit without worrying about blocks.
Here's all the modern legal wizards with flash:
scryfall.com
Pox Rack.
>nimble obstructionist
Thats the one i was thinking of
What's the best way to liquidate all my $1-$5 cards?
Sell in sets for 75% of the price of the set.
Damn, a fucking ton of them are odd numbers for that. Now I have to fucking do math to figure out whether it's more profitable to sell them singly or buy the difference.
Thanks tho.
Here's some spicy tech for a potential counter based deck.
tappedout.net
Went 3-1 at my first Modern FNM yesterday. Lost to Eldrazi Tron in the final round. Beat some Kithkin Tribal, and two Grixis Shadows.
>not running itty bitty titty elf
Flip them for bulk rares. Trade in a 5k of bulk rares at a GP for credit. Buy into high value cards. In my experience most vendors at GPs are always looking for bulk in high quantities.
Thanks.
Np, but figure if vendors give you 25cents per bulk rare (which is pretty fair) in store credit, thats $1250 for a 5k. That's pretty much a few dual lands or a bunch of staples for whatever format you're playing.
>1250 for a deck
wait what,
But Dog-Mom is my Zoo Waifu.
>1250 for a deck
He plays jeskai, dont mind him
How much worse are Avalanche Riders and Molten Rain compared to Fulminator Mage?
A bunch of decks are $1k+. How new are you?
just a smidge too expensive I think
Similar statement has been said about every UW walker ever. Alas, I want to believe but I don't think it's gonna happen. All slow blue decks are going to already play bunch of Jaces so there's only so much space for other walkers. UWR control has many more planeswalker/finisher options and even in straight UW there's plenty of competition for the fifth Jace slot.
>enters with 4
>ultimates at 8
Doubling Season though...
Deck isn't that good
>Beat some Kithkin Tribal
Which one of you glorious faggots was it?
I'm playing modern dinosaurs
>mtggoldfish ain't showing shit for kithkin tribal
Shoot me a list senpai.