Why is it so "unethical" to TKP in DnD anymore? I have a brisk understanding of the whole concept of let the players have fun; but why does it HAVE to be at the DM's expense.
It's all the time it's like people are like, "Who cares if you've sunk 5-200$ USD into content books." or "Who cares if you spent 1-5 months preparing home-made content to experience." So long as it's the players enjoying themselves, who cares if the DM is bored of meeting up weekly to DM you guys farming or fishing and building an economical empire!
It's apparently this "Golden Rule" that the DM has to shut up, nut up, and enjoy it. Despite wanting to DM a Dungeon's and Dragons game for Sword and Sorcery adventures.
Why is it that if you have been throwing plot hooks at the now farming/fishing party that have been in Role Play time ignoring the wizard trying to summon space demons for an entire year - that meteor's fall from the sky carrying CR10-15 Space Demons that wipe the party out?
If they would have followed or at least semi-payed attention to the plot hooks and went on adventures, maybe they wouldn't be level 6 fighting a swarm of space demons that kill them.
This is always going to come down to your group and what they want out of the experience. There will be some players who don't mind being killed; there will be other players who find that blatant waste of time frustrating. In this way, it seems to be that you are speaking just for a theoretical group of people that you don't agree with. If this really is the party you are GMing for, you should find a new group because that dissonance is probably wearing on you, and I just want your free time to become more well-spent.
Jack Lewis
You're not funny, OP. Just stop.
Andrew Watson
No, this was a bunch of Youtube drama from content creators like Taking20 and Nerdarchy. And their followings that seem to agree that TPKing is the worlds WORST thing you can do as a DM.
Nicholas Morgan
Have to agree. Pretty tired of people who claim they only want to play, yet don’t invest the effort to do anything other than what they want. Fuck the GM, and any attempt to bring structure is railroading.
It’s why I stopped running games. Got tired of spending money and putting in tons of wasted effort.
Aaron Sanders
good thread, really worth it
Robert Robinson
Well, to step back from the strawman, I come from the old grognard days of D&D, where the GM was an impartial mediator between the players and the game world, TPKs were part of the risk for players making poor decisions.
It wasn't players vs GM. It was players vs the game world, with the GM as arbitrator...and sometimes you had to let the chip fall where they may.
Jacob Barnes
Basically everything you've written makes me think you're a garbage GM, or a mediocre GM with a shitty group.
Oliver Cox
The DM's job is to provide the players with fun. If they have fun, you should be having fun too. If you're not having fun, then maybe you should consider quitting DMing