We talk about Monstergirls and build a setting for them. Though we can all post pics and images and art of Monster Girl Encyclopedia monster girls and take about them. But bear in mind this is not KCs MGE canon to the letter. Seriously lads a lot of people have their ideas and they aren't all the same, we can all agree to disagree. Just remember to have fun.
>Be an award-winning author. >Happily married. >Succubus converts your entire city into a demon realm. >Things eventually calm down after the first few weeks of orgies. >While the sex is admittedly great, you still need to make a living. >You no longer receive any money from your book sales, as they are now the subject of the Holy Censor. >You try to write some new stuff to be sold to prospective monstrous youth, hoping to instill some good values in them. >They barely cover the cost of the paper. >You are running out of ideas and money, and you’ll be damned if you write a series around Good King Endrick fucking his holy sword. >In a drunken stupor you pen a series mocking those Scifi settings that are so popular among the youth. >It’s titled Capsule Waifus. >Your husband picks up your manuscript and gives it to your publisher (who thankfully didn’t pin him down and do the nasty with him the man-starved slut) while you were passed out on the couch. >She publishes it in a collection of short stories, and in the next few weeks you find yourself inundated with fan letters praising the story and begging for more. >Despite the headache you need the money, and Capsule Waifus proves to be a smash hit. >You used to write heroic ballads, and dynastic epics. >Now your readership is hanging on to the adventures of Kelly as she learns how to operate a ‘miniature wave oven’.
Xavier Martinez
Zettai Reido
Grayson Bennett
so, last thread was discussing Vampire ruled and Demon Lord's lands, or attempted to. how to flesh them out? personally, Vampire lands are the europoor variety with heavy rain and mist, rocky terrain and possibly marsh lands, DL lands were developed as HERE BE DEMONS in the map but how would (You) develop DL emmisaries?
>but how would (You) develop DL emmisaries? Sexy suit and tie "clothing"
Evan Hill
I think the ‘Corrupt’ monster lands should be all kinds of ‘evil’ biomes, like swamps, volcanic Ashlands, barren arctic tundra, rocky highlands and mountains, etc. but are actually quite pleasant and scenic.
MGE mentions that corrupted lands have a flipped day/night cycle, the sun is blotted out by clouds, and the moon is as bright as the sun during night (although it looks like night). That and the Demons Lords Realm has a tentacle forest that used to be a bad-end Rapeland, but the Demon Lord cut to 1/10th it’s original size after mindbreaking a monster girl and is used to either pump out tentacle plant girls, farm houseplants, or attempts to boost fertility.
Also I have an idea for a demon realm home to witches and magical themed monstergirls that is geographically similar to New England that is more like in permanent sunset.
Isaiah Harris
well, yes, that's good but how to felsh them as a faction if say, there's a diplomatic envoy? or should they be limited to act in the background entirely even in neutral land, as cultists or cloack and dagger types and such?
Liam Powell
Nah, I think they’d open diplomatic talks to anyone who is willing to accept them.
So undead Kingdoms, the Ice Queens Empire, the Fallen Empire Revivalists, the Pirate Republic, and any Chaos Cultists, plus any pro-monster but anti-corruption State, the coexistancefags.
Grayson Rodriguez
>pro-monster but anti-corruption That's like being pro-gun but anti-bullet
Evan Lewis
I mean there are responsible gun owners out there who like guns and like them regulated.
They are rarely heard over the crazies but they do exist.
Nolan Bell
>That's like being pro-gun but anti-bullet
I mean, I could see that. that's someone that likes being able to own a historical weapon to display but isn't one for actually having them shot.
Dylan Rodriguez
Sure, buy even the most responsible of gun owners wants bullets.
Landon Butler
That's a relic collector, not a gun owner
Connor Price
Well in Japan they require you to bring the casings every time you want to buy more bullets.
Anyway I can see people being like ‘I want to fugg the doggo, but the daughteru is a bridge too far’.
Landon Green
>In the most uninhabited wilds not frequented by humans or monsters, relics of old civilizations remain in alien forms unknown in purpose to the modern era >Same say they are from wars waged by ancient civilizations which sparked over the emergence of spirit energy and magic into the world >The automatons don't wish to speak much about these relics and often wish to avoid them
So I’ve decided to call Grizzed Veteran-Kun Sir Siegfried (Siggy, or Sigfried the Bigfried to his friends).
>Despite draining morale, you are in a good mood. A messenger pigeon dropped off a message. >Any day now the War Golem, Ole Ironsides, famed for breaking the siege of Fort Castamere is being sent to your platoon. >You feel honored such a great weapon has been placed into your command. >A halfling in facepaint walks into camp claiming to be Ole Ironsides. >Sure enough she bench presses a tree without breaking a sweat and the boys start taking turns throwing things at her and watch them bounce off. >You tell the men that if they need anything you will be facedown in the cot contemplating what the world has come to.
Logan Phillips
I want to rank golem models-
-Clay/Mud Golems -Iron/Brass/War Golems -Clockwork Golems - the most advanced form of golem for most people. -Automatons - Precursor tech -Synths - Golems used by the Moonie Civilization.
Logan Cooper
I remember in a couple of previous threads someone said literature and even practical and historic texts made by monster girls are more likely to detail the lives, images, appearances and even likes and dislikes of individuals than detailing events that have occurred.
Most stories and fiction made by monster girls are very much romantic love stories where a human man gets sexually assaulted and raped by a monster girl but after some love and after care and stockholm syndrome the man finally loves his new monster waifu. Or types of stories where monster girl meets human guy, human guy is rather sad because his life is quite utter shit 'cause he's abused, mistreated and even disowned by shitty parents, monster girl practically adopts human guy to also be her husband and the story goes on to the man being showered with love and care by the monster girl. Until finally the story ends with a happily ever after and the city where the man lives now becomes a demon realm. And apparently it's even stated monster girls writers are likely to write "fixing up" stories which according to monster girls, are meant to be improved and better versions of already existing stories but with an added happy ending. Especially for tragedy and sad drama where the person the main character(s) die, where the deceased loved one is ow reborn into a monster girl to love her husband. Or monster girl authors would rewrite stories that were meant to be grimdark into happy pink noblebright stories, in which monster girls arrive in a bleak dark and sad realm and succubi and lilims come to save the day and help make such a grimdark realm become a happy and peaceful and prosperous realm filled with love and joy thanks to monster girls.
And as for historical texts, monster girls may describe such events that'd occur like a successful corruption of a human state into becoming a demon realm. They'd describe the event with minimalistic but basic or bear bones details and discuss more of how the lives of human men are now improved thanks to the Demon Lord, her Lilim daughters, succubi and all the monster girls who make human men happy and such.
Blake Long
That and a lot of it are Mary-sue tier protagonists (not the worst interpretation, but all the authors are emotional and horny women with agendas) a lot being woefully mistreated human women who become super successful upon being turned into monsters.
And the Royal Office if Public health mandates all male races be censored to prevent young monsters from latching into Husbandos. Correct. Where in those tiers do you think they should be? Below War Golems? Gimme a prompt.
Angel Adams
>/mgw/: WE ARE NOT A PORN GENERAL, THIS A SERIOUS AND QUALITY WORLDBUILDING GENERAL >also /mgw/: lol let's trade monstergirl porn Good thing you have a pet janny to protect you from the rules
Liam Thomas
Nah I just post things and let the chips fall where they may. I live on the edge.
>Today’s mission takes you to the wilderwood. >Known to be a gateway to the land of Fae. >Traditionally an ally to mankind, though a tricksy and mysterious one. >A demon reportedly corrupted the Forest and it’s Fae inhabitants. Your job is to go in and clear it out. >During the patrol Sir Baldrick goes missing. >You hear his cries and your squad come running to his aid. >When you reach him Sir Baldrick is covered head to toe in butterfly wings. >The Faeries are insisting they are gang raping him and mortals like you must pay for trespassing in their woods. >They can’t get through Sir Baldrick armor but are too stubborn to stop trying. >You just use a butterfly net and toss them in jars to be sent to interprovincial scholars, and call it a night.
Hudson Scott
>You tell Sir Baldrick he did good today and should be proud of himself.
Jaxson Peterson
>You catch sight of him looking back to the ambush site and him blushing, before touching his cheek where a speck of shiny dust is showing. >You are going to have to watch Sir Baldrick carefully.
Anthony Ramirez
Well on the bright side of Monster Girl-made literature, books and texts, they're definitely better love stories than Twilight. And its safe to say stories, books and texts made by Monster Girls are male friendly, because we all know monster girls love, LOVE and care, and coddle their husbands, their precious, soft, fragile human husbands that they hold so dear and treasure love so very much.
Therefore, monster girl texts and monster girl-made stories will pretty much always have love and care for human men who're husbands-to-be. Monster Girl-made books, texts and stories will always, ALWAYS promote and have lessons that teach other monster girls to love and care for their human husbands, to hold them dear, to treasure them, protect them and be the faithful, strong, loving, caring wife they need. And hey, maybe monster girls will even make books targeting/marketed towards human women not just to encouraging them to become monster girls, but to simply love and care for their husbands, boyfriends and men.
Black sun Black sun over paradise Black sun Black sun over paradise
Tainted drops of the calamitous torrent Bringing out, such an obscene sight Now humanity slowly retreats To the shadows – out of sight
Humid winds blow across the mountains Spreading blight to the shores and bay In the distance demons come To harvest semen – day by day
Only love is with us now Something warm and pure Find the peace within ourselves No need for a cure
When the day is slow And the mood is hot The flayer feasts on her prey's thoughts Oh how pretty This whole city This is our sacrifice
When the mist blows through With a vexing spell The hunter's soul drained from his shell When the sun sets We will not forget The black sun over paradise
Black sun
I tried to think of something better than "Black sun", but I figured it would be ok since it could reference dark matter.
attention citizens! >due to the ongoing drought this season, a diplomatic envoy shall be sent into the Nilean lands to bring one of their pharaoh priestesses so that they might aid good Miscean farmers, as a gesture of goodwill no regular troops shall be sent, therefore, ablebodied men who have not yet served in the legio, or have none of their markings shall be eligible as bodyguards, those interested may present themsleves at the main plaza tomorrow at dawn! >also, due to the scarcity of produce, tribes of the Orcimanni have sent one hundred and thirty score of their own for hiring, starting today they shall gather at the Circus at noon and shall remain there for the next three days, those who have not found private employment after this time shall be taken into the city guard! >after clearing land from a matango infestation to the west, twenty farms are up for sale, inquiries can be made at the Farming Administration office! >this week's notice has been provided by the Crow and Crown, true Miscean food and drink for true Misceans!
Just married a kikimora in one of my games, how much trouble am I in?
Luis Sanchez
>How much trouble I'm in
You'll be executed, and so will your family, friends, children, relatives and any one associated with you in any way. All of which is to purify lands and the world that rightfully belongs to humanity.
>during one cycle, the humans tried to protect themselves by creating clones of the monsters >though the attempt ultimately failed, some of them did survive and have reawakened due to the Demon Lord's influence >evagirls are not much larger than humans in their normal state, though they can grow back to full size temporarily >if they have a pilot, they can use his energy to maintain that state indefinitely, or at least until he becomes too tired to continue >despite the physical strain, piloting for short periods is very enjoyable
Dunno. Seems to me the Synths wouldn’t be too troublesome...
Unless they start replacing people. Is that your little sister? Or a synth? And does it count as incest?
What about Super Mutant girls?
Benjamin Watson
This thread has been awfully slow. How to get the conversation going?
What do people want to discuss? What do people not want to discuss?
Owen Flores
>Nilean Lands I like this as a term for the Desert Region. I know the "Nile" as such doesn't exist but it at least rolls of the tongue better than "Desert Region", feels like it refers to somewhere specific.
>There's a drought, so you take some time at the Temple today to pray to the Goddess of Harvests >You've needed to tighten the belt since prices have been climbing; it's the same for all the plebs this year >You head past the pillars and kneel at the Goddess' plinth - A large marble carving of her, a drider of some kind, is atop it, around 8 feet tall, as there are for all the most major of those who receive worship. >Several others are here as well, likely in the same situation. You can see more than usual over at the Goddess of Seasons - likely asking for much the same you are, but in another way. A few, though far less plebs, are cloistered around the Goddess of the Hunt. Seems everyone's feeling the pressure. >As you finish, throwing a small amount of incense into a burning bowl at the statues feet (as is tradition), you recall the story an orator and a scholar once told of the Goddess of the Harvest's origins in the amphitheatre one evening.
Long ago, when the Old Empire was in it's infancy, it would rely on several settlements outside the city to provide it with it's fruit and bread. They would send these to the Old Empire, and in return, the Legions of the Old Empire would protect them, and it's architects would help expand their small urban centres to flourish. As it comes some years, a drought made harvests poor. The citizens, however, endured - as all Misceans follow in their example today. The next year, the same happened. Even the Old Emperor and her kin would forsake their full meals, that they might show solidarity, and the citizenry continued to endure. On the third, however, the lack of harvest began to take it's strain; this time, there was no drought, but the fields were despoiled by locusts, who descended upon the land like a plague. Though trade by the sea was becoming more prosperous, there simply was no food to go around. Citizens ate scraps, the Emperor and her ilk ate simply, and those who would later join the Old Empire showed solidarity, and sent food now with a promise to pay later. The people of the Old Empire realised they could stand no longer. If they went through another drought, those in the city and without would begin to starve in large numbers.
And then, Caerostris - the one we call Goddess of the Harvest - came to the people. She and her servants began to spin great webs over fields, and over and in the rivers, and above the skyline of the city; until all the land had her traps around it. With the blessing of the Old Emperor, she and her servants did this deed, that in desperation people may eat once again.
Indeed, it worked - her webs over fields stopped the locusts from reaching the fields, that both grain and their meat might be fed from. The rivers captured salmon and other fish, that those along it's banks may eat. The cities' web caught birds of all kinds, that bread might not be the only sustenance they had.
Chase Torres
I like that as a name.
I want to say it refers to the region as a whole, but the more fertile order controlled regions on the coast specifically.
Also back to the religions of the Fallen Empire Revivalists? Cause I still think the actual Gods would be on their no-no lists. Instead having hero worship and various priestly sects performing rituals.
Chase Green
>fuck the giant robot shinji >nuuuuu >tang happens And that's why the automatons don't talk about the precursors.
Colton Sanders
Never was a more bountiful harvest had, and people across the Old Empire rejoiced. The fields had been saved, and the things caught in her traps, whether flying or swimming, were given to the people to fill their empty bellies with meat and bread.
The Old Empire cried out that Caerostris had saved them, that she might be blessed and anointed to have done so. And so, Caerostris was considered blessed upon the earth, in the hearts of all and by the hand of the Emperor. In the future, in times of desperation, Caerostris was asked to spin her webs once again, that we might protect ourselves from such a fate. As such, every harvest season from the Old Empire to Misceus today, we do ask all driders within our kingdom to spin their traps around the fields, that we might protect them from that which would eat it's seed and it's grain. And, in times of strife, we ask Caerostris, who ascended to become the Goddess of the Harvest upon her death, that she may grant us her blessing as she did in the days of yore, that we may not go hungry again.
There are other tales of the Goddess, such as her work with the Goddess of the Hunt during the Time of Great Expansion, when the Old Empire provided the food necessary for it's acquisition of Northern tribes, but these are tales for another time.
Caerostris, bless Miscea, and her people!
Oliver Price
If it's got Pharaohs and their priestesses, as the Newsreader said, it's not Order Controlled; it'd be part of that Egyptian-inspired Monster civ over the sea.
I tried to take that into account, that those stories did have origins whom, quite possibly, were real people and their stories are exaggerations of actual feats they might have performed, so they are a form of hero worship. If it helps you square that circle, you could see the term "Goddess" just being the closest analogy for "Living Hero/Saint who isn't around anymore but watches over us still", or similar.
Like was mentioned, driders still spin traps over fields, those could be her followers performing official rituals to Caerostris with actual practical use, if you wanted to see it that way.
Jaxon Thomas
The Pharoahs live deep into the desert. The Coast has Muslim flavored Order aligned states.
That works, I just feel we should come up with a different term.
Like Caerostris can still be referred to as a Goddess, but there should be a seperate term to dilineate her from the angelfuckers.
Brody James
We included Moor-style states? When did this happen, what's been written about them?
If I was a really cheeky bastard I'd find some way to write in the Roman alphabet the Phonecian word for "deity". Phonecian is the root alphabet for Roman Latin, whose Empire is the inspiration for the Old Empire Miscea takes inspiration from, and Greek, the language the Byzantines spoke, whom were the Eastern Roman Empire, and an original influence for Miscea in general.
Luke Nguyen
Isn’t the Roman alphabet, just the alphabet?
Not much has been written besides they are largely on the coast, mostly city-states, Order aligned, and make a good deal of money from trade.
Joshua Jones
Also Sand Elves.
Asher Morales
It's the alphabet English uses, yeah. Other languages have other alphabets, like Cryllic for Russian or such.
Then I'd propose they'd be either very recent settlers from human lands, and exceptionally rare because of that in the otherwise Egypt-Monster ruled lands - certainly not enough to dominate a coastline.
Also part of me wants to see some Carthaginian inspiration in those chiefly-Egyptian guys, but maybe that's just my Romefag side kicking in.
Noah Reyes
My Hannibal fanboyism would love to see anything remotely Carthaginian in this.
Austin Long
Well unless we want to come up with new lore for it, the Fallen Empire Revivalists, Pharoahs and such, are a new phenominom with the arrival of the Current Demon Lord.
As such there should be a civilization in the region already, though not necessarilly in the heart of the desert.
And if we go by my map the Desert Region borders the highly prosperous southern sea, on its southern coast, the southern half of the Order Mainlands being on the other side.
Hence it makes sense that the areas with sea access would have until recently been entirely within the Orders Sphere of Influence.
And it adds variety to the region.
Also Carthaginian pirate base?
Connor Bell
Sure thing: Monsters have always been around for as long as humanity's had records, whether by magic or nature, they've been around forever as far as any sapient species is concerned Done, new lore. Simple solutions, user. Besides, they had to have been around long enough for an Empire of Monsters to rise and fall, be romanticised by time, then for Miscea to rise as it's successor. That's a process of at LEAST a millennium, likely longer, and certainly not within the time frame of one Demon Lord's ruling.
This would assume the entire equivalent of the Mediterranean would be dominated by one power, which simply isn't the case. It HAS BEEN the case in history, Rome is the prime example, but Rome also conquered most if not all of Europe, so it's hardly a fair comparison. Even in Rome's lifetime Carthage was a powerful trade Empire. In addition to this, international trade is a boon - you want to be able to trade with other powers because their cultural differences can lead to exchange of information and, more importantly for merchants, unique creations of that culture, which you can sell. Finally, assuming Monster civs have been around a while, they'd naturally spread to the coast; even if not, spreading to a coast is something you'd want to do for a variety of reasons - enough to want to go to war over. I find it hard to believe the Desert civ would just stay there, never having gotten to the coast, and that they wouldn't be willing to bring the might of an Empire against what that valuable land if they only just got that far
Also stop starting a new paragraph between each line, you make a new paragraph when you're changing topics, not every time you want to hit enter for readability. You don't start a new paragraph with "and", "as such" or "hence" for example, because they're connectives, meaning the sentence i connected to the previous sentence and thus doesn't need to be starting a new paragraph - you'd be accused of "Reddit spacing" elsewhere, user.
Elijah Green
Yeah, I’m not saying there’d have been no monsters until recently- just that the new batch is much more social and much more intelligent- that and the Pharoahs have only recently woken up to start reviving said fallen empire- hence the monster civilization is still a new power.
Additionally I picture these fallen empires as coexistancefags, from before many monster species were made to be so hostile (specifically beastfolk).
I just like the idea of Muslim flavored catholic flavored fantasy desert cultures. Additionally I think the Pharoahs DO want sea access, they are just gathering resources to do that sometime in the far off future.
Okay, i’ll try to be more concise.
Bentley Peterson
>The Pharoahs only 'woke up' to start forming an Empire with the advent of corruption ... I'll buy that actually, that one makes sense. They're trying to rebuild an Empire THEY used to rule, so the first of the rulers for this one were/are the last of the rulers of the old one.
I'd take issue with the idea the new ones are more social and intelligent - Monsters have always had human-level intelligence and the ability to socialise. Again, you need both those things to form ancient not!Rome for Misceus to exist. It doesn't hurt anything to have this be the case, and it gives Monsters the ability to have a recorded history, so worldbuilding wise everybody wins. Violent Monsters still exist, tribal-style Monsters are all over the shop, they just have the capacity, and nothing recently would have changed that.
>I just want Muslim-flavoured fantasy Catholics I could have the idea of Moors grow on me, I suppose. No reason they couldn't be relatively recent settlers who just "went native" and adopted a lot of the styles and customs of the few humans that lived there, as either nomads or originally on that coast. Could even have references to another human religion down further South if you wanted your Muslim references, and this is coming from someone who just sees "The Order" as encompassing all humans on the continent normally.
Eli Anderson
Exactly.
My explanation is the Gods have attempted various genocide attempts, such as the Apophis from the Not!Egypt glory days. During those days a lot of things were more pleasant than they were later such as beastfolk. After that cycle the new cycle corrupted many beings that then became considered monsters. So many species were of human intelligence, lost it, and are now trying to rebuild what they can collect from their past. That a good compromise?
I see the Order as the largest religion and the most advanced and interconnected cultural block. These ‘moors’ usually being a very weak group who were typically safe from monsters since the Demon Lord sprang up so much further north. So they are like a notable part of the Order, but not too important, hence we get that moorish flavoring, but without impeding the Pharoahs further into the desert.
Wyatt Ortiz
I'm not so much in favour of cycles, but frankly there being just gaps in history is also true of humans, who have been intelligent the whole time (I'm looking at you, Bronze Age collapse), so it's not like it breaks anything. Like, it's not known WHY not!Rome fell, so it can be one of those mysteries of history. To me, it was probably some mixture of internal strife, human invaders and collapsing under it's own size; to you, it's divine interference. The end result is the same (everything burned, the only stories passed on where half-remembered ones and a scant historical record from beforehand, and humans definitely fought Monsters), so it doesn't really break anything for either of us - especially considering the majority of my focus would be on the world as-is, with the past alluded to but never explained in detail. I wouldn't say "start building with that idea", but I will say "well, adopt it personally if you like it because it doesn't contradict there not being cycles, so everyone's happy.
I... like my idea of the Order being a foreign import that adopted the trappings of the Moors who were already there. Compromise: cultural divide exists because even "relatively" recent is a few generations, long enough for Moorish influence to take hold. They're small in number and nomadic, so they're safe from Monsters by virtue of simply not having any land or settlements to conquer; but they do know how to live in a desert a hell of a lot better, so Order types first settling the desert took on a lot of their ways of doing things to live in the desert better. Actual "I and all my ancestors lived in the desert" type humans are still rare, usually further South and don't stick around in one place for so long, so most people will go their entire lives without meeting one. This way, they've got the Order religion and likely come from there, but trappings, cultural traditions etc it would make sense for people who've lived in a desert for a very long time to have
Jason Roberts
I’m not seeing the appeal of your version. Like I’m not shitting on your ideas, just trying to get into your headspace. You clearly have a fondness for the classical era, so you’d know that desert civilizations are among the oldest out there, so recent colonization by the Order seems a weird angle to go down. That and I was saving desert nomads for sand elves, with Bedouin flavoring.
Maybe I should state my head-space- I want an Arabian Nights flavor with prosperous and very religous human states out and about. I’m negotiable on how much power and influence they have, but I’m imagining bazaars with exotic goods and monstergirls to be seen.
Owen Barnes
Because I don't see Moor-likes or Desert civs coming along and going "Oh, that group of human guys up North? Yeah, sure, we'll sign on with your religion." Like, if you're treating these guys like Muslims, the example would be the Moors - guys who lived on the North African coast and the southern part of the Iberian Peninsula. Issue being? They really, REALLY didn't get along with the Catholics in Europe, i.e. Reconquista. Also religious tensions generally, but that goes without saying.
As such, to have an Order aligned state, especially with it's religion, you'd need to have them be from the Order. The natives being nomads is something I can take or leave, so fair enough on that front, throw it out; but if the settlers are influenced by the people that already live there, then you get that flavour, and possibly architecture, of that culture with none of the baggage of them accepting the Order's rule and religion - doubly so considering they're far enough away from Corruption that "Hey, we need ya'll to join up with this united front for humanity to fight demons" isn't a compelling argument. You can still have those places exist, but they wouldn't be on the coast, they'd be further inland. On a meta level, you've also got the possibility of inter-continent shenanigans with the two civs interacting, so that's potential fun.
Other compromises I could get behind are the coastal states being ruled by humans, but not Order ones because there is some Desert civ on that continent that humans have had and have made their way to the coastline. Hell, there's your opportunity to throw in some Carthage inspiration too, if you wanted. Not sure how you'd go about taking Cartage influence and applying it to Arabian/Moorish influence, but the result might be interesting and it'd at least be fun to try.
Matthew Kelly
Ah, but if you’ll remember, North Africa and a large chunk of the Middle East Coast were Christian prior to the Muslim Jihads.
So I’m imagining a scenario where the culture still played out leaving its mark on the local practices, but it’s still pretty much the same religion. Besides, it’s not a one-to-one ration with Catholicism, it’s an abrahamic pagan mashup (Houris are angels of love the love goddess doles out to her worshippers).
As for the history I imagine the civ was always there (due to migration there are people everywhere) and they are close enough to the Orders base of power they pulled them into their ‘brotherhood of man ‘schtick’ or maybe way back when they pulled off a successful crusade to pull them into their sphere.
Ethan Wilson
Also just spitballing but I’m imaging maybe the Nova Carthage is a Big port being used as a pirate base that alternates between allying Miscaea and rivaling it.
Blake Perry
I like this lamia girl's ears. Any more pics of her?
Hunter Reed
They were Christian because of the Roman spread to those areas, with Rome having been a Christian Empire toward the end of it's life. To get a similar result you'd had to have a group of people following the Order's religion have conquered or settled that area. So why leave that in the past when you could have it being a thing today? And with the Order not, as a group, fighting anything except corruption for right now because they've got WAY bigger issues on their plate, settlers is the only alternative. That or a metric boatload of missionaries, but then you arrive at why they're going without others, and you get back to colonisation efforts.
Dominic Jenkins
She's Miia from "Monster Mosume" or "Daily Life with Monstergirls". Google is your friend, user.
That seems far too lewd for a blue board, user. Veeky Forums being /d/-lite or not, that's asking for trouble. ... It's also not a picture, but hey ho,
Have the crusade be in the past because right now they have way too much on their plate. Also a reminder Christianity spread far past where the Romans were, such as in Ethiopia, Scandinavia, Russia, etc.
Kayden Peterson
It's possible they could have headed over the sea during a period of relative peace with Monsters, and thus had enough resources to have dedicate it to conquering those people. But if it's feasible they would have, it's feasible they wouldn't. So why not have them settling now for the greater interactions and friction that could represent with another unique human culture and civilisation?
Jace Green
Well because we already have that interplay between the Pharoahs and other monsters and the Order. I don’t see why having a faction in the middle makes it better.
Additionally I want the Order to be morally grey, but I think making them colonizers here shifts them a little too clearly to ‘not the good guys’.
Levi Mitchell
They don't have to necessarily be involved - again, maybe they're much further south, the settlers just adopted a lot of their styles because they're desert dwellers, so you get your bazaars and Arabian-style clothing and whatnot.
Colonisation can be ethical, if you're not murdering the inhabitants or taking land that's theirs. Setting up a port town in an area nobody is currently living isn't a bad thing. It's certainly better than a crusade or war of expansion, which are both much bloodier.
Noah Nguyen
Yeah, but I feel colonization a. Is out of synth with the time period, and b. Ignores the cultural flavoring I want. They wouldn’t be Arabian Knights styled states, they’d be typical medieval fantasy states in a desert. Saying it’s a crusade adds credence to the Deus Vult flavorings, it adds to the history, and it gets to be out of the way.
And I’m still just not seeing the appeal of your version. Again not shitting it, I just don’t see what it adds. Them being different cultures with the same religion adds to the Brotherhood of Man thing the Order is going for, it facilitates trade and conflict with other states in the region (at least human ones), and I think it makes for better stories.
Having a three way conflict (not necessarilly an open one) between the Monsters, Order and Natives seems like it’s too complex to be worth it, considering I don’t see what the gain would be.
Joshua Parker
The Early Renaissance is part of the first wave of European colonisation, look it up. Hell, Spain had it's fingers in the Caribbean and Central American pies by at least 1550 Besides, what would you call Rome having people all over the world and making new settlements? Colonisation has never not been in fashion. And I said, they'd have adopted the culture of the people near them - you don't build buildings out of stone or your wooden palisades, because those resources don't exist, but those guys a few miles south seem to know what they're doing, copy them. You don't wear your normal clothes, you wear things more appropriate to the climate. About the only thing you'd be missing are scimitars over straight swords
And having done it by force takes from it. There needn't be conflict with natives, it just establishes that they're not the natives of that region, and that humans besides those in the Order exist. Well, unless you want to make the Order's religion the religion of all humans and it has been since time immemorial, which I find way more palatable for some reason
...But if there needn't be conflict there needn't have been any to begin with, I'm talking in circles. Same as with suggesting there's a human power that never got to the coast, if they're capable of getting there they'd have got there, because the coast is prime real estate for pretty much everyone, and without the capacity to get there they'd never be around to even give settlers the different ideas to begin with
If the Order is supposed to be something which unites humanity and it's different cultures and governments to turn them into the best thing they can be, then maybe they converted those people to their religion in a time long ago, along with the better things it mandates (gender equality, care for all among you, etc - it's "Brotherhood of Man" doctrine); which would be roughly your idea
I concede, my ideas contradict themselves, and see what people make of the Arabian Nights civ
Ayden Rogers
Imho I think hero worship would be better, sort of how emperors would deify themselves and their predecesors >If it's got Pharaohs and their priestesses, as the Newsreader said, it's not Order Controlled; it'd be part of that Egyptian-inspired Monster civ over the sea. yes and no, I envisioned Misceus or fallen empire as sort of cosmopolitan oriented, like the actual thing, since romans allowed the worship of egyptian and the cult to Isis being a thing for them also regarding it's fall as a schism, with the current empire leaning for Bizantium, and what is today the Order's mainland as a mixture of the HRE and the Papacy, except here the Pope being the major authority due to the whole war against the Demon Lords and the Chief God being an actually palpable thing
I see it less that the Order is the world religion, but aims to be- they are limited by communication tech and scale. The Gods try to establish their presence everywhere through the virtue of being Gods, but dont always succeed, since you have other incredibly powerful entities.
But let’s flesh out who does what for a bit- I was thinking the Order is the dominant faith among humans in:
The Order Mainlands - duh The Isle of Draconia - for knights on dragons The Great North The Coast of the Desert Region The Land of Exotic Pelts - but maybe with some twists.
Whereas something like Zipangu I think should be like an Eastern Orthodox variation, they revere the Gods, but are not under the Popes authority and have canonized a lot of folk religion.
I would think something similar for the Mist Continent, and aside from some dragon worshippers the Far West hadn’t been fleshed out much.
David Perez
>Hero Worship straight up would be better I'll not use the term Goddess if I write another origin if people think that'd be better, then. It'd just be "Caerostris of the Harvest" or similar. Any reason they wouldn't have a temple or statues and the such, or be asked for support in current life? Figure that comes under the "worship" part of hero worship.
>I envisioned Misceus as cosompolitan Yes, that's how they were originally envisioned, I believe. They're all about bringing anyone and everyone under their banner, and their religion is already just an adoption of everything they have bought under that banner, don't see why they wouldn't allow the worship of someone just because they're a sea away; same as if humans living in Misceus still wanted to worship the Chief God.
Austin Rodriguez
It’s a bit hard to read that, but let’s hash out a few things.
My thinking was there is Misceaus an island nation trying to unite monsters around it, cosmopolitan, and aiming to restore a fallen empire. And if I can still swing it, a rival city-state if giants (amazons) that is culturally descended from the same empire, trying to counter them (so one is rome in pagan glory, one is Byzantium in Deus Vult glory) maybe with monstergirl jannissaries.
As for religion- I want priestly castes performing various rituals- like a wolf sect based on honor and warfare, or a holy cow sect based on fertility.
Especially holy cows because I’m imagining like a decadent Roman or Egyptian Milk Bath as a part of the ritual.
