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Necron Codex teasers are not super awsome, but straight up good edition.
>leaked pictures on an imgur link soon hopefully.

>Necron traits leak:
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Lets discussion potential nerfs or buffs for every faction in the coming FAQ, I'll start
>IG
>5ppm
>removal of 2 shot russes
>vets moved to troops
>commissars reverted
>deathstrike can actually fire reliably

I'd expect more HQ limitations and stuff as seen in the Tau book
>Spammed HQs limited to 1/detachment like Tyrants. -1 to hit has limitations ala Dalyth Tenet

As well as further nerfing anything Forgeworld into shit

Buffs? Nope.

>Tau
>Riptide spam addressed - 1 per detachment

>Chapter Tactics/Legion Traits extent to everything LIKE EVERY SINGLE OTHER DEX
Seriously why is this still a problem?

Wishlisting tier
>Chapter Approved FAQ brings Falchion down to ~700 points
>Fellblade to ~550
>Astreus to ~500

Too hard to guess, but I hope what some user said the other day that Princes/Tyrants/Custodes bike captains getting limited to 1 per detachment comes true.

Crossing my fingers fofor +25% point costs on all Craftworld units

Tau player here. I was going to switch to guard after the abomination that was the codex. Now I'm not sure since it looks like they are going to get nerfed.

>>Chapter Tactics/Legion Traits extent to everything LIKE EVERY SINGLE OTHER DEX
Fucking please GW, make it happen

>Removal of 2 shot Russes
Let's not pretend this is the problem.
It's how cheap everything is for IG.

>Vets moved to Troops
Agreed.

>commissars reverted
Sounds good.

>deathstrike can actually fire reliably
Hell, I'd like if it were made a certainty that it could actually fire during a game.

>Princes/Tyrants/Custodes bike captains getting limited to 1 per detachment comes true.
Likely only things that can hide due to the character rule if anything. Like how battle suit commanders could. Even then I doubt it'll happen; nothing was a shooty/killy immediately after deepstriking

>playing an army because they are good
also the tau codex isnt terrible. Nothing like 7th but its not dogshit.

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>Tau player here. I was going to switch to guard
please stay on Tau, I'm fucking begging you.

>>Chapter Tactics/Legion Traits extent to everything LIKE EVERY SINGLE OTHER DEX
holy fuck YES, dear lord, Ultramarines vehicles would be so much better

I switched from Tau to Guard at the start of 8th. Couldn't be happier and would recommend.

How edgy are your dudes?

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What changed in the 8ed that made the Tau more grimdark?

I was listing shit I expect to happen, I fully expect GW to go full retard and remove 2 shot russes
truth be told I doubt vets will be moved to troops and I doubt they will ever buff the deathstrike
I have no problems with things being more expensive, I just want them to be GOOD

>he never faced 7+ dakka Flyrant Tyranid lists
Be glad you haven't seen that cancer in action.

>tfw your army has incredible infantry and tanks
>in both offsensive output and cost
>regimental doctrines that apply to all vehicles >objective secured on tanks
>tanks that shoot twice
>cheap and awesome psykers for smite and powers
>infinite command points with relic and warlord trait
>a whole another level of buffs with orders

Is there a better feeling lads?

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Pheromone Trail reworded so it isn't literally useless

a roll of 6 should always succeed and a roll of 1 should always fail
unless we are talking about armor saves, both 7+ saves and saves negated through AP

What has been leaked thus far

>Imotekh - +1 CP, +1S melee, 2x MWBD and ~20-40 points decrease.

>Monolith - Exact same as index. (Has 2 strats connected to it)

>Tessarect Vault - new 4++ save, knows 4 powers, can cast 3/2/1, slight points increase.

>Tomb Blades - Points decrease(?), new -1 to hit when shot.

>Transcendant C'than - Choose between 3+/3++ or 4+/4++ with 5 other options, can cast 1 power base.

Relic - Shard of the nightbringer on a scythe. Wounds on 2+, vs. vehicles becomes S7. AP-4, 3 dam.

-- 3 Strats --
1CP - Monolith/nightscythe can drop 1 unit from tomb world when it dies.

1CP - Start of move phase Nightshroud any unit to 3'' away from monolith, then move normally.

1CP - Any necron shooting; ignore enemy cover bonuses.

--- Powers ---
6 extraordinary powers - Pic related
Not deniable by psykers or antipsyker shenanigans.

>Now cast at the end of move phase instead of shooting phase.

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I started off with Tau because I liked the minis but playing them really isn't fun since you get no options.
Not fond of hordes so I don't like the Codex direction and definitely not jumping to IG.

Thoughts on Thousand Sons and Renegade force? Seems like they cover their weaknesses quite well

Kinda curious here: Did the Tau open the warp equivalent of a wormhole, found a way into the webway or what? The hell is the Startide Nexus exactly?

What is pheromone trail?

>completely switching playstyle and aesthetic

I wonder what could drive someone to do that?

It would be completely typical of GW to remove double-tapping Russes, but allow Eldar to double-tap their Fire Prisms.

What are you on about? I'm telling you lots of people are running 7 or more Flying Hive Tyrants with those guns that have a million shots deepstriking all over and fucking you sideways.

A shitty codex.

The thing that gets me is it's just expected of them
>remove double tap russes
>literally only one variant worth using anymore

Oh my bad, I thought you were referring to the 7+ to hit nonsense that Orkz have to put up with

Sounds like the Eldar is your choice then.
They have all the options, a lot of mobillity, somewhat elite units, big mechs and the fact that they are the second strongest faction after IG is merely a coincidence.

At least pick an army of a similar style rather than jumping to the best codex possible.

>Grey Knights
Literally nothing changed directly, maybe a point increase on some obscure wargear. Will probably get nerfed with the smite change being approved.

Reminder that you should be working. Show me what you're working on other than shitposting.

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>warp equivalent of a wormhole,
It literally is a wormhole, it says it is specifically.

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smite change?

>>he never faced 7+ dakka Flyrant Tyranid lists
>Things that never happened

-1 to psychic test after every subsequent cast.

Fuck you it's still too cold outside to prime and I've already built all my models.

Just the fact that gauss didn't change means that you are likely going to be dissapointed by the codex.

God I hope orks are next after deldar

im so thirsty for a new codex

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Currently some experimental rule that GW has told people to try playing with to test it out. Every time you cast smite then next smite cast on your turn has a WC value increased by +1.

>he is a casual or doesn't play the game

Not til December apparently

I haven’t been home all day. Went to brunch with my buds at texas de brazil(they walk around with meat on swords and serve you until you tell them to stop) then we went bowling and my painting arm hurts.

Admech wishlist
>kataphron destroyers to 3+ save
>all kataphrons to 4 wounds
>if not those changes, a point reduction to kataphrons
>point reduction for infiltrators and ruststalkers
>point reduction for imperial knights
>WS/BS 3+ for tech priest enginseers
>something other than a fucking laspistol for the enginseer
>cybernetica datasmith moved to HQ

>not priming inside and bathe in fumes
pleb

1 CP deepstrike Strat.
I'm no bugman but how is that useless?
Do you have better deepstriking for infantry?

>18 months after 8th came out
Sasuga, GW, really turning over a new leaf with this edition.

>other than shitposting.
Implying I ever worked on something not shitposting-related

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So I have the Dark Imperium Foetid Bloat-Drone and I will be getting three of the boxed versions, because I hate having same looking models, but I have not seen anyone magnetize the weapons. Have any of you user done this?

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So much hype!
>-1 AP Tesla that can ignore cover for 1 cp!

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Convince me to take sniper drones Veeky Forums.

I think they are really cool, but suck balls. True?

Not much reason to do it since spitters are better than everything else.

>3131
fuck tau

I hear they are good in the new codex, just wait till you get it to make decisions.

>convince me to take sniper drones
they look cute, take them
report back on how useful they were for you

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but elves are permanent waac

The Wolves of Fenris feel your pain

doesn't it let you DS genestealers?

How are Adeptus Mechanicus? I wanna start Warhammer and they look the coolest but I'm a mildy-competitive person. Not enough to sperg and ree, but what are some of their best options? Thanks

I can honest see double mowers being good if you are running either three Haulers or three Crawlers as the two could tie-up multiple units to allow the rest of the army move up the field

I have unbuilt drones that I was going to convert. Fuck giving GW $50 for 3 drones and a dude.

Page 119
– Pheromone Trail
Add the following sentence:
‘You cannot use this Stratagem to affect a unit of
reinforcements being set up by the Genestealer’s
Infestation ability, or that are added to your army due to
a unit’s ability.’

>Orks
decrease MANZ points or give deepstrike, either as ability or stratagem
decrease mega armor built in points cost
big decrease in stompa cost
give stompa and gorkanaut more reliable dakka numbers
flash gits 4+ to match other nob units
d6 burnas, or something better than d3
if still d3, points drop for burnaboyz
a source of rerolls to something other than charges
Last, and Most Importantly, give me an rokkit pack option for my warboss. I don't want to always use Zagstruk.

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Orks are fucking stupid and so are you

The point is that they need to be put in reserve to begin with to deeptrike

Everything that can be put in reserves either has deepstrike (Tyrgons, flyers) , has to come in via a tunnel (Anything put in a Trygon/Ravener Tunnel) or got FAQ'd out of benifiting from the Stratagem (Genesteaers) thus meaning that it has literally no benefit

interesting, how are you gonna convert them? glue a pulse rifle below instead of the normal stuff?

Citation needed.

They said at the launch of 8th that we'd see every codex within 12 months (and that was July 2017)

>flash gitz still don't have a 4+ save
the fuck was the point of removing their 4+ save

>They said at the launch of 8th that we'd see every codex within 12 months (and that was July 2017)
False, stop spreading this lie

Risking overwatch and not having auto-hit is a big downside in practice.

Markerlight drone with a pulse rifle. Add extra sensor bits for fluff.

nice, post pics when done

WTF, so what can use it then?

GW probably thought it better represented them wearing pirate clothes, but really it just better represents them being shit.

Anything that can already deepstrike.

Who's left?

Orks
Deldar
GSC
Furries

We could have all those in 3 months easy.
What new armies could they possibly include?
I'm thinking
>World Eaters
>Slaanesh CSM
>Dark Mechanicus

this

at the very least it should be a 5+ save then
Flash Gitz have a BS4+ right? or is it reroll 1s?

I might of course be wrong, but a lot of missions require you to start with regular troops in reserve with a mechanic for when they come on the table.

I think that strat is to circumvent that.

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oh yeah, the plaguespitters are awesome but I like playing with variety. also, the heavy blight launcher load-out is good in Daemons list.

Literally nothing, that's the point

Hive/Tyrant guard
Warriors
Gaunts
Zoanthropes?

You forgot Imperial Agents, or some form of SoB Inquisitors and whatever is left over in some random book that fucks all those players over

...

BS4+, but they have 24" range heavy weapons.

ORKS LOL

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now that is fucking adorable.

BS4+ and their ammo runts give reroll a single 1 per runt. Offense isn't their problem, other than only really being good against things properly hurt by D1 in that respect, loots are far superior even if they're BS5+

None of which can be put in reserve so thus can't use the strat

>Orks
>Deldar
>GSC
>Furries

+
Knights
Harlequins
Deathwatch
Inquisition/SoBs

hopefully EC and WE get codexes in the next few months

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There's no reason why GW can't put out two per month and be done in 4 months.

In case you need proof
Article date July 2017, question 4
>Even with the pace we’re planning on releases these new codexes, it’s going to take well over a year to get to all of them
>well over a year
>well over a year
>well over a year

Is it still worth getting into 40k as a newbie? I always wanted to when I was younger and broke. Now I have a high paying job and a lot of free time on my hands but I don't know how to play it at all. I have no idea where to start or which faction to pick, or how to build a competitive army. And what is the community like? I'm really interested in the modeling aspect but desu I'm kinda worried that the local gaming club is going to be filled with unwashed omega males. Also the nearest gaming club is like an hour and a half away.

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Knights are in the admech book. You can't release a book for 2 models.

Ork codex in june

Ork Speed Freaks model release in december