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Ordered a load of old cards in foil last night to pimp out my Yugi, Kaiba and Joey decks, and it felt really really good. Expecting any mail /ygo/?
Looking to get into the game with a friend. I ordered in some singles I liked under an archetype, and may be forking over the cost for my friend as well. What's a good set/structure deck I can get for him to give him the most bang for my buck?
ie., What's a good structure deck to get a friend into the game?
I think it'd be more fun to work from some booster packs, but that's just me
ik the decks would be filled with varying amounts of shit + opness but that's part of the fun of early yugioh
I'm going to buy us some packs to build from, but he definitely needs a starting point. I know from experience coming at him with 'here's a vast selection, now choose from all these cards with no central plan' won't work with him. I also know from experience that as soon as he learns he can optimize his deck with singles and boosters he will immediately switch to that. The structure deck is just the bait.
I started with pure boosters having 'miniduels' of 5 cards with friends, never bought a structure/starter deck in my life, that's why I was saying it.
The BEWD, Monarchs and Dinosaur ones are great if you can find them.
I recommend 3 of whatever structure deck. Getting just one gives you a barely playable deck that usually only has 1 of each important card.
A list of SD from the past half-decade, the aesthetic, and how they play:
Wave of Light; abstract crystal angels; attrition through traps
Cyberse Link; computers; build up boards of monsters that connect to gain more effects
Dinosmasher's Fury; weird dinosaur aberrations; generate lots of advantage with a huge disruptive boss
Machine Reactor; clockpunk mecha; swarm out huge monsters that fuck over combat traps
Pendulum Domination; corporate demons and possessed kings; not good for a beginner, incredibly high skill curve combo deck
Seto Kaiba; combining mecha; easy to summon boss that can split into its material
Yugi Muto; fucking magnets; annoying to summon boss that struggles at doing half the things ABC does
Rise of the True Dragons; dragons and dragon worshipers; reanimate big dragons
Emperor of Darkness; heavily armored royalty, looks a bit like Dark Souls 2; control deck with lots of ways to disrupt
Master of Pendulum: Chinese alchemists, elemental dragons, and circus performers; combo-aggro deck, somewhat complex, but easier than Pendulum Domination
Synchron Extreme; racing, recycling, small animals, and space; playing the deck is more like solving a puzzle than playing the game
HERO Strike; tokusatsu/Japanese superheroes; transform your monsters into various forms to whittle away at your opponent's resources
Geargia Rampage; goofy gear robots with giant mecha; swarm out weak monsters to swarm out middling power mechs that help swarm with weak monsters
Realm of Light; DEUS VULT; send your deck to the grave then do a bunch of things, depending on your build
Cyber Dragon Revoultion; machine dragons; beat face with big robots
Saga of Blue-Eyes White Dragon; the titular dragon and priestess that supports her; play Blue-Eyes more times in one duel than Kaiba does in the anime
PRINT THE GETTERROIDS ALREADY
Thanks a metric ton!
Reminder to BUY TIMELORDS
I was the person with the DMD deck like two or three threads ago. I have 2 Ebon High Magicians, Dark Magical Circle, Secret Village, and a Dark Magician of Chaos coming in the mail.
Just rebuilt my Gishkis the other day, and I'm planning on ordering Zoodiacs soon.
i have to try gishkis with the new devirituals.
Pendulums eternally killed the meta
fuck power creep and fuck newfags
I'd like to get started playing on YGOPRO, what's a good starter list if I have the basics of playing down? (up to the pendulum era).
Pendulums have only been tier 0 once.
just pick an archtype you like and go at it. Unless you want to play meta that is.
Pendulum Magician, Trickstar, Invoked/Mekk Knight, True Draco, and Zefra, with various other stuff having some small presence.
And where do I find lists?
Learn Links. Which version of ygopro do you have?
Burning Abyss will never not be good.
The games died after that. I was using it as a benchmark, more than anything.
It used to be that you actually needed to plan some of what you do, make X move with Y and Z cards instead of Y move with A and Z. Now it's just memorizing a bunch of ways to spam special summons and/or wipe out your opponent's field. Power creep is shit.
i took a long hiatus from the game when pendulums hit the format, now i hear there are link monsters aswell and my head is just sort of spinning with all these new monsters, formats and so on, i want to get back into the game so im wondering... will my lightsworn deck hold up to the decks of today or should i get a new deck?
will my lightsworn deck hold up to the decks of today
kek, probably not.
Your only shot is getting a lucky OTK.
I remember when my Koaki Meiru deck was somewhat decent.
People have been making this exact claim for a decade at least by now.
Lightsworns pop up from time to time at tournaments. You just need a few updates, then you'll be able to compete to a degree. Important newer cards include Lumina, Twilightsworn Shaman; Fairy Tail - Snow; Giant Rex; Performage Trickclown; and Minerva, the Exalted Lightsworn.
The original few sets were really slow in comparison to late GX and 5DS, yeah. It's just gotten even worse now.
This is the slowest format we've had since 2014's HAT format. Out of the big decks of the format, only Pendulum Magicians are a "masturbate your deck onto your field" deck, and pretty much every format since Zexal has had at least one of those.
You're right, the eras with FTKs that dominated the meta at some points were extremely slow.
Lightsworns are one of the top rogue decks right now
Lightsworns are a cheap still goodstuff deck, it has gotten a couple of upgrades over the course of the year, but they are very much viable in both casual setting and competitive.
why are Dragon rulers are still banned?
Pendulums and Kozmo are what happens when people ask themselves "I mean fun sounds nice, but how far can we go to make people depressed?"
holy shit what did I miss
Reminder that if you don't own THREE copies of this WAIFU, you aren't ALLOWED to play the game! So pay up goy!
Electrumite is that fucking retarded.
Zefra weren't even that bad since Zefraath came out, they just existed during Zoodiac format and never stood a chance.
Does anyone know the pull rate on this card? If you pick up a Kaiba box for 30$ at the store, one of these cards pays for over 2 more. Combine that with some of the cards going for a decent price too, and these boxes seem like free money. Are they just that rare?
Supposedly they got short printed, and certain people who have bought a lot of them have said there are only 2 in a case. However, these "market analysts" are known to generate hype and sow misinformation for cards just to sell them for higher prices. Some people have pulled 3-4 in boxes, and some havent. Its all a lottery so its hard to say if its shortprinted or not.
Holy fucking shit, that thing vomits value.
If there is even 1 ash on average per pack, that's instant money. Any more and you could buy a full decent deck. Hell, my full foil Blue Eyes deck only cost 150$ (not counting my 3 ashs)
Also its hard to find Kaiba boxes in general due to the Ash hype, so even the boxes are being sold for higher prices by vendors now.
I live in the middle of nowhere and bought all 3 my Wal-Mart was stocking. Made enough to buy an entire burning abyss deck and keep an ash to finish my set
No kidding, it singlehandedly put Pendulums on the map. Hopefully they ban astrograph magicians and the rest of the zarc magicians soon, theyre just too retarded to exist.
I've come to terms with the fact that the majority of the time the meta is going to be dominated by something really stupid ages ago so they don't really bother me that much.
Thanks for showing me the Geargia. They're fun as fuck to play.
I love the guy that draws these. Armpits are the best.
Not a problem. Protip: Try mixing them with Karakuri sometime.
Make Gladiators Great Again
Is there anyplace I can visit where I can just see silly/fun/stupid "tribal" decks for casual play amongst friends.
Like, say toons. I want to look at decks that focus on almost entirely all toon support, instead of meta shit+toon. don't think there's any site like that, but I might be wrong?
Worst case I'll just go to the wiki and pick and choose only stuff off archetype/character deck pages.
What do you mean by "meta shit"? Toons aren't in any way meta. Do you mean no generic/staple cards? Or are there certain cards you want to avoid? Because Terraforming helps a lot of casual decks actually play in an enjoyable way.
Yeah, I'd like less generic/staple cards, preferably staple monsters, and somewhat traps.
extra/side deck stuff is fine, whatever can go in there as long as there's room for as many themed/fitting cards as comfortable. Like, you don't need to have 2 copies of cyber twin most of the time, but in a cyber dragon deck...
Anything that's for searching and using the actual archetype cards is fine. Like, Terraforming, warrior returning alive are perfectly fine.
But I'm stick of like ghost ogre upstart goblin (kinda), maxx C, effect veiler, solemn(s), compulsory evacuation device if that makes sense.
Tell me some decks you'd be interested in, and I can whip up some lists.
Here's a Toon list, by the way: pastebin.com
That's part of why I wanted a site, lol. I'm unsure what I'd want to play, except most machine decks are nice.
Karakuri, Deskbot, Dinomist, Superheavy Samurai, Geargia, Gagaga, Qliphort, Nordic, Noble Knight, and Raidraptor all looked fun, off the top of my head.
If you want to do any of those, that would be great.
Thanks for the toons, though. Better example than what I had whipped up.
You should define if you just want to build budget or not, which will cut out expensive staples. But for stuff like Dinomist you'd definitely want electrumite
Dinomists are playable without Electrumite because they can easily summon Mistar Boy. Electrumite is fine if he is willing to pay $60+ for it.
Superheavy Samurai: pastebin.com
Any extra room in the extra deck, fill with cards of your choice. Emphasis has been made on minimizing staples, and using as many cards of each archetype as reasonably possible. I'll write more later, but with some drafts I did that I didn't like the way I turned out, I've hit the pastebin limit for now.
Seems interesting. I'll look into it when i'm done with pure Geargia.
They seem like they would combo well with Ancient Gear as well, so thats neat. Love me some ancient gear
Try to include the link to the Percy discord in the next op if you're trying to make this a general.
Main reason is that the download links sometimes stop working and the ones used in their servers always worked. You can also ask for help if you're having problems with ygopro. It's also really active, so you can easily find games.
Anybody got a good decklist for Ghostricks? I've been playing them on DL and I have playsets of Mummy, Alucard and the new trap card from EXFO but outside of the really meme-y deck they are in DL where you use Skeleton to deck your opponent out, I'm not sure how to build them IRL and apparently Links hit them really hard, but I love their artwork and their playstyle and I really wanna try em.
Still waiting on some Burning Abyss cards that a vendor shipped but they got lost in transit. Gonna be ordering Fluffals, Edge Imps, & Frightfurs for my GF, either that or Madolche, when i get my tax refund.
My GF expressed interest in the game and likes excessively cute things. So i figured, as did my friends who play, reccomended Madolches/Frightfurs
Links didn't really kill Ghostrick. You just need to flip the materials face down. It doesn't work against Tokens, but stuff like Needle Ceiling can just destroy them.
Can you play this without shellung out thousands or at least hundreds for the top tier decks, or will you get blown out? And I'm not talking kitchen table, I want to at least be able to have some fun games even if the tryhards show up at the lgs.
This isn't MtG
Most decks that top regionals and YCSes are around that point, but there are a bunch of decks you can easily hold up with at a local tournament for even under $100.
The cheapest but best decks you can get go for $40-60 if you buy 3 of a structure deck and combine all the good cards together into a 40-card deck. Casual decks that are made up largely of singles from boosters and stuff generally cost around $100-200 while competitive decks cost around $400-600, depending on what you're playing.
Most deck cores are generally pretty cheap with a few money cards here and there; Trickstars for instance, are meta but most of the cards in it are all pretty cheap, with the only super expensive card being pic related at $30-50 each, with the deck running 3. The real money, however, lies in the generic staple cards any deck can use like Droll & Lock Bird or Ash Blossom, which generally sit at $20 - $80.
Straight magical muskets will run you 50 bucks altogether.
3 Caspar at $14 each
3 Starfire at $10 each
That's already about $70.
dont forget your $50 ashes
You can win locals with almost anything.
Regionals? Maybe not anything, but if your petdeck is decent and you dont make a single misplay you can top because most people dont read cards and will walk into shit they dont know about. You'll probably need the expensive staples though, at least Ashes. So maybe like $200.
YCS? You should definitely have a fully decked-out meta deck here.
Oh shit. Forgot. Still don't have those
considering building a yugioh cube draft for some dumb fun with friends every once in a while. Anyone ever tried something like that and have experiences to share?
Hey guys I've been collecting cards for years and was wondering about the link cards, never tried them in gameplay or collected them, what's a good booster box to buy to get me started, only looking for English versions.
Extreme Force has link monsters, Spirit Warriors has 1 archetype specific one as a rare. The new starter deck and structer deck built around Cyberse monsters has good link monsters
fuck all of you, stop being so nice. shitpost more like on /vg/
So how long will /vg/ be dead?
brandish are good now
What the fuck? Do we seriously have to deal with brandishfags pushing their shit waifu?
Until Hiro runs out of hotpockets. I really wanna try the new Ruin with Cyber Angels, hell, might also stick the new Demise in the deck with them too.
they should retrain dokurorider and the other not-ghostrider cards
Graceful ruin is better than supreme demise, since she has inherent protection for all rituals. I dont see a point inf big demise besides making a decent lock with big Ruin.
Other half of fluffal and predaplant decks in the mail.
I've pulled a playset of toon kingdom while trying to pull millennium eyes should I build a toon deck or mortgage my house and build a trickstar deck?
Do you want to have fun or do you want a competitive deck?
both and there are only 2 srs players at my local both running gemknight ftk/otk
I just want to have a fun evening every now and then, playing some strangers at the LGS. That has become pretty much impossible with MtG because people only bring thousands of dollars in decks in Modern and Legacy, and Pokémon isn't fun either because stomping kids just isn't. Now I guess I just have to find out if there's actually a scene around here.
Youll just get btfo if you play toons against them then
Just look around and find an archtype you like then and build a deck. You can have fun at locals with almost anything as long as it isnt overrun with tourneyfags. But most yugioh locals are fairly casual.
I guess I'll get the mortgage application ready.
I wouldn't want to be btfo'd
Trickstars are fairly cheap all things considered. Probably the best pauper meta deck.
not as cheap as my "3rd place" 3x linkstrike deck.
Well on the brightside, you can win locals consistently with trickstars and make your money back with the winnings.
Is a dark world deck worth building? Returning player so I'm wondering if it's worth it.
Ya, bit Trickstars are by and large the least fun deck to play against. Nobody is gonna like you if you play them.
Hell, you could win locals running a decent tier 2 like Blue-Eyes or burning abyss. I think, forgetting Ash, a good pure Blue Eyes deck (not the invoked version) costs only like 150$.
My deck is entirely foil, so it cost a bit more. I run a mostly pure build, but with Arkbrave/Amorphage Goliath so I have a win condition
No-one will ever like me there anyway trickstar's still seems like the best option.
I read stuff like "excluding Ash" a lot, but are those decks still able to win anything without it? It feels a bit like "excluding Force of Will this is pretty cheap", but in Legacy you can't leave your house without FoW.
Can you even play without 3x ash?
Sometimes I really love YGO art and this is one of those time.
I win fairly often without my ashes, especially going first. If he's only got two serious players at his locals, and they are playing Gem Knights, he can win with Blue Eyes if he's got a good build. Some other hand traps would be needed if he wants to win going second though.
Anything above locals and you are gonna get your ass beat without 3 ash at least in your side deck, if not your main. It's kind of a sad state of affairs where the only viable side decks are 6-9 hand traps 3-4 kaijus, and 3 evenly matched
Not really. If you draw the continuous trap and keep a lot of monsters in hand you can lock your opponent out of monster effects, but that's about it.
ghost ogre is better vs the best decks, but ash hits literally everything. Its the Mental mistep of yugioh, its just stupidly good.
The comparison with FoW is quite apt
Dark worlds aged like milk. They brick hard, they lost all their good antimeta floodgates, all the current handtraps stop them dead and brick them harder, and their new support doesnt help if your opponent just msts it. You can build it for fun and probably win singles sometimes, but they desperately need more support to stay relevant. The new call of the archfiend card is good with them, maybe try that.
The problem is, the best deck are too good without that check. Koniami will just say "X isn't too good because Ash Blossom exists", instead of making better decisions.
But, the game is too fast these days to get rid of them. We would lose the variety we have this cycle in the tcg, since these would be nearly nothing holding the best decks back from obliterating everything. There are too many good decks you would need to nerf before Konami would start getting rid of hand traps, so they are here to fill up your side/main deck for the rest of time
It'll change eventually. Theyll just make decks able to safely play around handtraps and their use will dwindle. Nothing is forever in yugioh.
Can't wait for every card to ignore card effects.
Well, every set needs to be slightly better then the last. But still... you would need to essentially abandon most older sets in that case.
Here's a question, woukd you guys rather play in a world without Hand Traps (I'm talking AB, EV, GO+SR, and D+LB) or keep up with this one. We have a nice variety of decks, but they all have a lot of similar, uncountable turn enders
Theyll usually just ban the old shit like ash. Ash is already hit in OCG, it wont be long till she dies in TCG as well.
It's on my semi-limited. Do they still have Max-C?
Then that's even worse then having 3 ash lol
what's the best rogue Synchro deck that isn't Pend Mags / Zefras?
Just get the one from the anime guy
Blackwings, once Light of Sekka is out.
Still no relevant Ritual decks
The devi ritua boys are also pretty good consistency.
I just mix Ritual monsters and spells into my archetype decks when I don’t have enough cards to complete it otherwise
Do you mean Jack, Yusei or BUY BLACKWINGS?
Light of Sekka and not Needlefiber?
What Yusei is what Imean
Junk Doppel is fun and all but it dies to Armageddon Knight / Doppel getting Ash'd. I just want to play a non-Pendulum Synchro deck that doesn't immediately die to handtraps.
They look like they'd be best in Nekroz, but I'm not going to spend $160 on the core of a petdeck.
Gishki, maybe. They have enough searchers that they can play around Ash, and Zielgigas has (soft) OPT card draw plus potential non-targeting non-destruction removal, on a 3200 ATK body that can make spiders and train guns.
I haven't messed with Cyber Angels much, but any deck that can tutor Kristya must have something decent.
Herald Turbo could work pretty well, although most modern decks would probably be able to play around Herald by the time you've gotten it out.
I've never actually seen anyone use Vendread, so I can't comment on it.
Demise/Ruin might work, especially now with 3 Envoy.
Speaking of 3 Envoy, maybe a BLS deck?
I just want any deck that does the same
Oh wait, Ancient Gears! Ahahahaha
Needlefiber too, but Light of Sekka gives it a major consistency push. It's lower tier 2/upper tier 3 in the OCG right now.
I run Advent and Gravity Dragon in my Metalfoes sometimes.
BLS is pure goodstuff you can ram into any deck that fulfills his conditions just by normally playing the game.
That gives me an idea.
3 Thunder King Rai-Oh
3 Inspector Boarder
3 Effect Veiler
3 Doomcalibur Knight
3 Ghost Reaper & Winter Cherries
3 Eater of Millions
3 Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
3 Pot of Duality
3 Twin Twisters
1 Dark Hole
1 Monster Reborn
3 Infinite Transience
3 Solemn Strike
1 Solemn Warning
1 Solemn Judgment
Examine the meta of wherever I'm playing to optimize Cherries' disruptive potential
Pot of Duality instead of this?
thats only 38 cards 40 is deck minimum
Add 2 Pot of Duality, Ghost Ogre, or Designator from the Grave.
Despite common sense I ordered a Melodious deck, because I like opera themed shit. Still, it seems like a fun fusion based archetype, despite being not that great
Gotta love BLS and his stupidly good versatility
Fuck, I mean Pot of Desires
Can any Pendulum decks do well without Electrumite?
Qli lock themselves out of it most of the time, im sure they could deal.
Mythical Beasts are a pendulum deck that doesnt pendulum, too
Are Qli even playable with only 1 Scout?
And Mythical Beasts look kind of fun, although I was hoping for something more budget friendly.
eh, they can deal. Its pretty damn searchable, and they have Qlimate change and other shit to grab it back if it does die.
They can bounce that one Scout like a cheap whore all over the place no matter where it goes.
I mean OCG has 3 scout and 3 towers and they do nothing over there, its not like it makes a huge difference
Hurr-Durr, dat's a neg 9!
What a noob!
What's a Qli list look like right now?
probably something like this
Gishkis are never not good. Now spread those cheeks for the big black fish dick.
As someone who's hardly ever played Table Top Card Fightan' games, and who only understands the general principles, why would you ever want to use this card? Is it an effect you force on your opponent?
why would you ever want to use this card?
Because cards sitting in your deck are useless to you most of the time. With the state of the game being as fast as it is currently, drawing 2 cards even for the restriction of banishing 10 makes it worth it. 2 cards can easily turn the game in your favor or help you be able to pull off a certain combo.
Okay, but considering a deck is 40-60 cards, according to a quick search, that's a lot of cards to toss aside, and I assume you can't pre-stack the deck in your favor, so there's also a pretty good chance you just burnt your trump cards, including anything that might allow you to recover those very cards. that sounds suicidal to me.
Because cards you can't do anything with might as well not exist.
You can have up to three of any one card in your deck, and most decks keep their best cards in a second deck called the 'Extra Deck', so you're less likely to burn your Boss Monster by simply cutting cards from your deck, especially if you have multiple ways to call them out. If you don't burn cards you want, you end up with better chances of pulling key cards in subsequent turns as well.
How'd you get that board set up without being negated to death?
That's why you'd only use it in a deck that runs multiple copies of all it's core cards. You wouldn't use it in a combo deck that relied too heavy on a bunch of one off cards, but in a deck where you have 3 copies of every important card? It helps a ton. Sure there's a chance you could banish all your core cards, but what would happen if you didn't use the card at all? Those same core cards would be stuck sitting in your deck being useless to you. You're better off gambling for the chance of being able to get to those 2 core cards.
you're retarded. gishki can easily 3 gigas on first turn
Makes more sense, thanks for clarifying
Gishkis pretty good at grinding through hand traps.
Are there any cheap ancient gear structure decks that have come out in recent years and exist for a low price? I got the new boss fusion monster in a pack I got for keks but lack the cards necessary to actually use him.
Then how come they don't even show up at regionals, let alone YCSes?
Oh? How so?
Machine Reactor. Should be able to find one for $10.
There was one that came out last year. "Machine Reactor Structure Deck" I don't play ancient gears, so no idea how many of the core cards it has in it.
The only ones it's missing are Chaos Giant, Howitzer, Hound Dog, and if you want to use any of the new stuff in Legendary Duelists.
Gishki just have really good grind game. An Ash/Ogre will hurt but nothing they can't recover from. Hell depending on the hand they could easily shake that off. Honestly the hand trap that harms them the most is one of the least played ones, Droll and lock bird.
As for why it's doesn't show up at places is because
-it's not versatile, decks a one trick pony of summoning big beat sticks and beating stuff down. When it comes to regionals/YGS stuff, having versatile deck to deal with all the other decks you might face is kinda a must
-It's not popular, hardly anyone knows what Gishki is besides it being Nekroz less good dad. Less popularity means people are less likely to try playing it.
not a single MS Paint drawing
I'm not mad, just disappointed.
Gishki pray they open salvage or lose.
It's not that it was a bad thread, but shitting up every thread with the same mspaint art does nothing for anyone. It's like every mention of steamed hams getting the same screencap from that one thread a month or two ago.
No fun allowed? Got it
Post new shit instead, you faggot. You won't because you just saved our MSpaint shitdrawings instead of making OC
They have 3 Cs
Here's some OC
Well I'm glad I'm not a jap. That's complete cancer
How good are Nobke Knights now that they have their Link monster? She seems absolutly insain for the archetype, just a Swiss army knife of incredible utility. Are they at least semi relevent? I really like the archetype, and I'm wondering if it's worth sinking some money into
Hey lads. I just bought this deck off someone for a couple of bucks. Any improvements that could be made on the cheap?
Super Conductor Tyranno x1
Jurrac Spinos x1
Black Ptera x1
Gladiator Beast Spartacus x1
Gladiator Beast Hoplomus x2
Stone Statue of the Aztecs x2
Jurrac Velo x3
Jurrac Gallim x2
Fossil Dig x2
Gladiator Beast's Battle Gladius
Gladiator Beast's Battle Halberd
Gladiator Beast's Battle Archfiend Shield
Big Evolution Pill
Survival of the Fittest
Descending Lost Star
Gladiator Beast Gaiodiaz x2
Power Tool Dragon
I get it. Now do Quasar
Well, you certainly need to fill out that extra deck. Rip Canyon in half too, and buy some good dino support
Noble Knights are great. The aren't Meta, but I'd say they are around as good as Blue Eyes is. Nothing beats that orgasmic Deus Fault feeling when your King charges onto the battlefield equipped with like 4 swords that bounce back whenever they get removed. And when he dies (that's hard since the swords offer dank protection) he can just summon another Knight from the grave who then just grabs all the swords for himself
The link is a nice playmaker too, but I usually would rather go into one of my kings
Superheavy Samurai kappa
One day they will be okay
Oh hey, that's what my friends and I called Stardust Dragon back in school.
we will never get musashi or daihachi
Am I the only one who thinks that the level 12 synchro is garbage? That monster should have been a level 8/7/6
What counts as good? I have the Super Conductor Tyranno deck as well.
I mean, all of them except Shutendoji and Susanowo are pretty ass.
Your best shot with lightsworn is to play a smol engine with a bunch of other shit to make a 60-card goodstuff.dek. Try to use this site, it logs tops at tournaments and such:
Well, you can look at this and try to make something of it
Honestly you're better off buying 3 of the structure deck and going from there
Should I run the new Keith support in my SKY FIRE deck or am I better off just sticking with Symphonics?
Thanks lad, I have one of the first Dino deck too.
Delet this, they are fun ;-;
Keep in mind, this was from a while ago. While it is a good thing to have sources to work off of, try not to verbatim copy off whatever is on the site. Doing well means making proper side-deck choices, making correct meta calls and being prepared for the people you'll duel against. In the end, all the good cards in the world mean shit if you can't play well.
Kaijubait, the deck
I've been out of the loop for a while.
What generic Links do I need to run?
I expected as much. However, let's say I'm a poorfag who refuses to get back into buying cardboard and is instead playing free alternatives. What generic Links do I need to run?
Firewall, Decode, Saryuja, Borreload, Proxy, Akashic.
What exactly is the threat of Kaiju? I'm Duel Links secondary trash and I don't get the threat of putting Kaiju in your enemies' fields.
Unless your monsters cannot be tributed, there is always the threat of your opponent tributing it for a kaiju, leaving you with a much worse monster that they can likely destroy by battle.
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That's only if you plan on running the grinder link spam tactic.
Light of sekka seems to only help a benkei beatdown turbo build imo, it makes susanowo dead weight
I've managed to pull a few wins out of my ass, but my consistency is severely lacking. Any suggestions?
Since you're here from DL, try to think of Kaijus as a whole archetype of one-tribute Lava Golems that don't eat up your normal summon. They're generally used a lot because they can bypass negation bullshit, get rid of powerful monsters your opponent controls without a lot of effort and they don't target anything when they do this so it makes a bit hard for your opponent to respond and do something about it.
The one everybody likes to run is Gameciel because it has the lowest ATK of all the Kaijus and can be run over pretty easily, though their field spell, Kyotou Waterfront is also pretty good and I run the two insect Kaijus in my Krawler deck.
Thanks senpaitachi, now I understand
How does one determine what cards these are at that resolution?
one day of peace belongs in exodia decks,final countdown,burn etc. ,but not in that deck cut it out
Susanowo is still a beater who, at worst, gets good cards out of your opponent's grave that they are probably able to reuse.
By knowing the game yugioh. I don't know what to tell you if you can't recognize cards like Upstart Goblin or Monster Reborn.
I actually realized how stupid it was right after I posted that. What would be a good replacement?
Cubic Lords or Beasts?
i'm not sure
SK, Y FI, and RE are all DARK
SKY FIRE is WIND
Best zombie deck?
Generic zombie support like Uni-Zombie and Mezuki, with a splash of Shiranui Solitaire. Any zombie deck is just going to be that, but with the inclusion of an archetype of your choice that probably just makes the deck worse (poor Vendreads).
Not him but
1 Flying Fortress SKY FIRE
3 Desperado Barrel Dragon
3 Summon Reactor SK
3 Blowback Dragon
3 Trap Reactor Y FI
3 Spell Reactor RE
3 Black Salvo
1 One For One
1 Dark Hole
1 Soul Charge
1 Upstart Goblin
1 Foolish Burial
1 Monster Reborn
1 Limiter Removal
2 Twin Twisters
3 Heavy Metal Raiders
1 Evenly Matched
2 Fake Explosion
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Solemn Warning
1 Hot Red Dragon Archfield
1 Dark Flattop
1 Dark Strike Fighter
1 Clear Wing Synchro Dragon
2 Powered Inzektron
1 Gaia Dragon, the Thunder Charger
1 Number S39: Utopia the Lightning
1 Number 39: Utopia
1 Castel, the Skyblaster Musketeer
1 Super Quantal Mech Grampulse
1 Saryuja Skull Dread
1 Firewall Dragon
1 Decode Talker
1 Akashic Magician
x1 Flying Fortress SKY FIRE
x3 Desperado Barrel Dragon
x3 Summon Reactor SK
x3 Twin-Barrel Dragon
x3 Trap Reactor Y FI
x3 Spell Reactor RE
x3 Black Salvo
x1 One Day of Peace (removed and looking for a replacement)
x1 Dark Hole
x1 Upstart Goblin
x1 Foolish Burial
x1 Monster Reborn
x1 Limiter Removal
x2 Twin Twister
x3 Heavy Metal Raiders
x1 Evenly Matched
x2 Fake Explosion
x1 Solemn Judgment
x1 Solemn Warning
x1 Hot Red Dragon Archfiend
x1 Dark Flattop
x1 Dark Strike Fighter
x1 Clear Wing Synchro Dragon
x2 Powered Inzektron
x1 Gaia Dragon, the Thunder Charger
x1 Number 39: Utopia the Lightning
x1 Number 39: Utopia
x1 Castel, the Skyblaster Musketeer
x1 Super Quantal Mech Grampulse
x1 Firewall Dragon
x1 Decode Talker
x1 Akaschic Magician
What about Zombiesworn Synchro?
In a stroke of brilliance, I realized I was running basically nothing but DARK monsters. So I replaced One Day of Peace and Upstart Goblin with two copies of Allure of Darkness.
What else should I do with this?
That's basically what I meant by the generic support, with 40-60 collections of good engines like zombies, Lightsworn, Predaplants and Performages. Though it depends on how much summoning Omega counts as a synchro deck.
Try for consistency. There's no point in running things at 2 if they can be run at 3. If possible, I think your deck could try to run more things at 3, with 1-2 pot of desires in there. Replace some of the one-ofs with more allures, more terraforming, more evenly and perhaps some handtraps.
Ah, at last I truly see
More like this, you think?
What kind of beasts we talking?
sarutobi is a pretty good monster if you use shutendoji+trumpeter, since shutendoji is just a 2500 beater after summon. Shinobiashi has it's place as a direct attacker. Kyubi is definitely kinda ass tho
That looks quite good. If I were to make suggestions, I would see if you could bump a few things, like terraforming and twin twisters, to 3. Although rageki and Dark hole are great cards, they aren't the best all the time. I would suggest putting them in the side deck, so if you win and you now your opp will make you go second, you can side them in to have a better chance at breaking their board. Not only that, considering almost everything in this deck is ran at 3 (save for SKYFIRE, though you could possibly bump him up to 2), playing pot of desires could be quite valuable. If you want, I could expand on pot of desires. However, I digress. I'm not very aware of what this deck can/seeks to accomplish, however. Is there a major win condition that your deck has?
2 but with 1's skirt
here ya go
Kaijus dont even dent a good noble knight board
The sky reactors are kinda ass without the field, so add more terraformings
Jokes on you all 5 of the ones i posted were my OC.
Proofs: The runes on the Magic Bitch card actually says "reading is for nerds"
Soo why is Ruin a boy here? Was she secretly pink border all along?
This is the Noble Knight deck I've been messing around with. Any changes I should make? Any tips for interesting plays? I know the deck gets murderfucked by kaijus and evenly matched, but it works well enough at locals and occasionally regionals
Why are you running Tristan? I feel like you'd be better off running another Gwayan or Brothers instead. Also why run two Isoldes with so few equips?
Oh and if you're having trouble with Kaijus side deck Duston mop. Glory to the noble knights can search any equip spell, so it makes using Duston Mop a lot easier.
Great suggestion with the dust mop, I didn't realize other equips could be snagged with it. And ya, it's probably best to drop Dyistain for another Brothers (Brothers is such a good fucking card).
I find myself not using Arfeudutyr very often, should I swap it out for another Gallatin? It's nice I guess for popping a back row before I XYZ into my 5* king, but the 4* king can pop back row much more effectivly. It's useful for getting opponents monsters down a bit too I guess... maybe I'm just not a very good player and there's more uses then I think?
Borz to 1
cut upstart for Gwalchavad
borz to 1
Are you daft? His combo with Medraut is awsome. It's how you get your swords in the grave for your kings
Not worth it imo, better to stick to 40
Maybe? It's a good sword, but having multiples probably isn't needed
cut upstart for Gwalchavad
Why? Upstart is a great deck thinner, Gwal is a meh- tier monster reborn
Also, with that he's at 39, not 40
Are you daft? His combo with Medraut is awsome. It's how you get your swords in the grave for your kings
Yeah, but thats only off of medraut. By himself he's ass and doesnt do anything, you never want to draw him. It's better to keep the equips in deck to mill off of isolde effect, Borz effect is pretty shit now.
Not worth it imo, better to stick to 40
Gawayn is your isolde maker, you max him out to get your plays rolling.
Too many equips is a brick, you'll never need more than 1-2 a game.
Why? Upstart is a great deck thinner, Gwal is a meh- tier monster reborn
Upstart is a filler card so its easy to cut it, Gwalchavad loops back gawayn to hand to make isolde to continue plays.
Also you should have 1 bedwyr so that should make an even 40.
Good suggestions. Borz can be a bit tricky. Once you've got 3 swords in the grave, you really don't need any more. I think I will side that 3rd copy of glory for if I need the dust mop.
Bedwyr doesn't seem so good though. Can you explain why you suggest him?
Using it with dust mop is a good idea, though the biggest threat to the deck is Evenly Matched, not really kaijus since Rank5 king floats and the equips will all just float to another knight.
Bedwyr is just another solid knight name if you dont have a better target for isolde eff, since he can dump excaliburn to set up the next turn and his requip effect is great for drystan or glory.
Essentially you just use Medraut, Brothers, and Gawayn to drop Isolde asap, use brothers effect to recycle equips for more isolde effects and plus off the draws to dig for more resources. Turn 1 brothers with any 2 other knights is crazy, and you should be able to drop Isolde + King and have multiple handtraps/solemns to back them up. If somehow your opponent cleans your board you just Last Chapter and make it all over again. Oh yeah, you should add 2 last chapters, theyre great turn around tools and you can recycle them with Brothers as well.
Is it worth going over 40 for 2 Last Chapters? It seems pretty nice since its essentially a better monster reborn, but the smallest deck possibke is always nice.
Oh ya, which is usually the better option for going into in terms of kings? Obviously, you pretty much always go into Isolde first, and the 4* king is better against Pendalums and such, but the 5* floats, which is also nice. Which do you usually go into?
you shouldnt go over 40, just side the ghost ogres and you should be good.
lvl 5 king is pretty much always better, just use 4 when you cant make 5 so you can excaliburn him later if he survives. Also use him to wipe backrow and to pop your own equips to double use Caliburn, change equip targets, etc.
Nevermind. Even with Ghost Ogre, i'm only at 40. This is what it looks like now.
What about my extra deck? I feel like I should drop #41 and Diamond Direwolf, I never seem to use them. The Utopia set is really useful, and Blackrose is always nice to just have. I've used Boaraload once or twice for overkill too
you can probably drop the kings down to 2 each because brothers recycles them, add a third isolde and probably cut the blackrose because you're not going to be summoning a hand trap except in extremely niche, non-existent circumstances. Probably add a castel and a dweller to round out your options.
I know I'm like three days late, but I HEAVILY suggest the Dino structure deck. It's not very difficult to play and most of the cards in it are still good even in a tournament setting. It's missing a couple of dino staples (Double Evolution Pill, Overtex Qoatlus, and Dogoran are the only ones I can think of) but it still functions just fine in a kitchen table setting without them.
I see Dogoran in a lot of dinodecks, but what is it even for? If its for beef, then there are a lot of easier to summon dinos that are just as strong and have more useful effects.
You know what Kaijus do, right?
Dogoran is searchable by Oviraptor to do what kaijus do, but it can also be summoned off of Petiteranadon to protect your monsters from getting kaijud themselves.
I'm a bit of a scrub, and have never even encountered kaiju's before, so no.
Kaijus allow you to tribute one of your opponent's monsters to special summon it to your opponent's side of the field. There's a ton of problem monsters in the game (Crystal Wing, Master Peace, Borreload Dragon, Invoked Mechaba, and CyDra Infinity just to name a few) that have protection/negation and can really fuck you over just by being on the field, or can be very difficult to get rid of. None of these monsters are immune to being tributed.
So basically, Kaijus are your one-size-fits-all out to almost any monster in the entire game. However, they also have a condition that you can only have one Kaiju monster on your side of the field at a time. Since Ultimate Conductor Tyranno is one of those problem monsters, your opponent will want to drop a Kaiju on that too if they have it. However, if you already have a Dogoran on your side of the field that you summoned with Petiteranadon, that means they can't Kaiju your Tyranno since that would give you two Kaijus on your side of the field.
One think the deck really struggles with is clearing huge boards. Having black rose can help in those situations
no Rageki ?
It's in his side deck
He should take out the 2 ghost ogres and replace them with Dark Hole and Rageki. Noble Knights need to be able to clear fields
Harpy lady #1
Ohh interesting. Seems like i need to get me some Kaiju.
Thanks for the rundown
This 1000%. Those save you add far more often then Ghost Ogre will. Especially in nobke knights, since they lack board clearing.
Why is he so rude
because he's fuggin useless
his mystical elf wife is fucking ash blossom on the side
it's been years since anyone tributed summoned, let alone kill anything with him
Will there be any respite for the Rude Kaiser
No. He is simply too rude for this game.
No rest for the wicked, huh?
How would you use this card in a deck? At the end of their turn when they have a full hand, throw this and have them discard two cards?
Just keep on getting them from the graveyard and force the opponent to deck out
TFW there are 4* effect monsters higher then you
He should just off himself tbqh
When you guys run into a reverse Gravity Bind and need that 1800 damage, Rude Kaiser’ll be there
It was really sad when Xyzs came out and Gravity Bind horribly died.
Yeah but at least we still got Silfuck the FagDragon
What do you guys think is currently the better archtype, Blue Eyes or Noble Knights?
Eat dirt, huge forehead loli
The most common Kaiju is Gameciel since that has the lowest Attack. Jizukiru has the highest. Kumongous is also worth mentioning for being level 7 and being able to make Missus Radiant, but that doesn't come up often. Interrupted Kaiju Slumber is also important for being able to search your Kaiju. That's currently at 1.
I'll probably just run Dogoran with my dinos so i can search with ovi and use it to kill the stupid big guys that negate everything (looking at you Chaos Ancient Gear Giant)
Question for you nerds.
Would the 2 monsters summoned by Rescue Rabbit's effect being destroyed during end phase count as destruction by card effect?
Dinos are a ton of fun. You can also try True King or Shaddoll Dinos, but I just prefer the classic Rabbit build. Don't forget they also have one of the craziest Rank 4s in the entire game. If the effect text looks familiar that's because it's taken verbatim from Solemn Judgment.
mfw lost world + rabbit + baby/petit
Soul absorbing bone tower
I don't get why there are any Blue Eyes decks these days that don't run Amorphage Goliath/Arkbrave. If you can get him out on the field, you basically win, and yet people see. To be taking them out for the shitty new support cards that really don't give you a win condition
Are people just retarded?
Are there any good guides for dabbling in Duel Links? Seems like a nice timewaster for short commutes.
Blue-Eyes is already brick city. Adding more bricks can hurt in the long run.
How to fix this broken game very easily:
60 card minimum for deck
Increase extra deck to 20 cards
You can only have 1 copy of each spell card, and 1 copy of each trap card.
Links are cancer, but 1 special summon per turn is good, keep that.
I would keep those three house rules, if I ever played the game, otherwise it's just rage inducing.
I almost forgot, monster reborn, dark hole, raigeki, and heavy storm are banned for all time.
No Fun Allowed: The Post
Start with Kaiba
Level Odion and Mai ASAP for Curse of Anubis and Windstorm of Etaqua
Only spend your gems on one set at a time; figure out what kind of deck you want to build beforehand. If you can't decide, a few good choices are
Ultimate Rising for generic Ritual support and generic staples
Blade of Spirits for Six Sams, Hazy Flames, and Powerful Rebirth
Abyss Encounters for Aliens, Archfiends, Gishki, and Sea Stealth Attack
Land of the Titans is useless
Don't run a deck you're working on building while you're in the process of gaining the cards, there's almost certainly an actual desire sensor that checks your actions in the deck builder.
Focus on things in this priority: Events (if the rewards are something you want) > Stage progression > Events otherwise > Character leveling > PVP
In addition, don't get turned off of the game by the piss-easy AI at the start. As you progress through the stages, the generic opponents get stronger and stronger decks. Around Stage 10, you'll see things that look like early game opponents from the GBA games, but by the end of the current line of stages, you'll be facing Fire Kings and Counter Fairies.
Why Kaiba? I thought you could unlock both anyway.
Kaiba's abilities are better for early game.
I just frame tribute summons until I unlocked Mako and started swamping the field with Spiked Fishmen, Star Boys, and Warriors of Atlantis. Legendary Ocean turn 1 thanks to Atlantis Boys is fucking crazy. I can get a 2600 Terroking Salmon Out and slap dicks with it
I mean, most of early game I just played Restart Nephthys as tiny Yugi/Keith.
I just like having a 3000 atk monster by turn 3 with another one in my hand and Sea Stealth Attack to auto destroy anything else but that’s fine too
Don't get me wrong; I've been digging through Abyss Encounters since it dropped, I just started playing when my options were a bit more limited.
I get what you’re saying I just wanted to fucking express my love for the bullshit that is my water deck
How do I into long term anti-meta?
I don't care if I get fucked against the top tiers, I just want to build a deck that's as annoying as possible, preferably without relying on an archetype.
run cards that banish stuff like dimension fissure
Cards that banish/benefit from being banished fuck the metagame? I thought a lot of recent archetypes worked with that mechanic.
DHole and Raigeki are pretty useless nowadays, Boss monsters have protection against spells or "effects when destroyed" and spam monsters strategies (mill decks) would recover right away (fuck this bitch both figuratively and literally, she's so hot). Kaijus are better for cleaning field.
if they can't banish it from the graveyard they can't get the graveyard effects of their spell/trap cards
I'm thinking about getting back in to Yugioh (been playing FoW for the past couple years), all I have is the majority of my old Nekroz core. How fucked am I?
Rituals are getting some new support in the newest set, and Preparation of Rites went back to 3 in the latest list.
Nekroz is pretty funny with Evenly Matched. You force your opponent to banish all except 1 of their cards, then you Trishula to banish their last card on the field.
combine it (or any other cards that make your opponent draw) with pic related to draw cards yourself?
Man I'd suck dick for a toon kingdom reprint.
Another? It just got one.
Yep. I used Appropriate with cards that forced my opponents to draw in an Exodia deck that was a lot of fun.
Oh shit I didn't realize it got reprinted,
Gotta grab me a playset then.
Why are Xyz so much better than other cards?