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whereismyname
whereismyname

Big Tau Hordes Right In My Face edition

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Gigastrength
Gigastrength

1st for KRIEG

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BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Post models you guys want to use in killteam.

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JunkTop
JunkTop

Mad Men When?

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CodeBuns
CodeBuns

So how old is the normal Krieg solider?
I know they are vat grown.... but are they vat grown fast or as children?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

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Lunatick
Lunatick

I've been trying to figure out how to paint my eldar for a few days now.

Any suggestions? I'm open to any of the established craftworlds or <your dudes>

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

angryman and lemon man are the next 2 coming out so says the rumor mill.

massdebater
massdebater

veekyforums.com/thread/58499422/games
Thanks! (Didn’t realize about the middle part... don’t think my friends or I have ever done that; guess I’ll bring it up next we all play again)

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Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

How bigly are the gunna make Papa Angron? He's hot to be bigger than a Bloodthirster right?

RavySnake
RavySnake

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BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

They get shipped off at 14, grenadiers start at about 18-19.

RumChicken
RumChicken

If tau are horde that gives me more incentive to get another Start Collecting.
God the crisis suits are sexy.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Do your opponents do this?

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JunkTop
JunkTop

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CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I think it's been confirmed that there are rumours that the rank-and-file fresh from krieg are pretty young, like 15-18 range

of course I think leadership is older, but I guess GW is referencing their young age with how young some soldiers signed up in WW1

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

yeah that was one of the nice QoL improvements 8th edition had over 7th edition

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Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Only once in my LGS. Nobody's afraid to call that shit out.

farquit
farquit

How would you give non-Marine armies something that can stand up to a Primarch?

viagrandad
viagrandad

He needs to be at least the size of a knight I would think. unless they make him hunched over.

5mileys
5mileys

Yeah, but aren't they tank bred or something into adulthood, or something?

Playboyize
Playboyize

What am I even looking at here, someone who can't use a ruler to save his life?

TreeEater
TreeEater

I think all we know is they use something called the vite womb to grow them. Just no idea if it makes adults or infants.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I will protect this thread.

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Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Nothing.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Since the Necrons are coming out soon I thought about putting together a fluffy Death Spectres/Deathwatch/Imperial Guard army.

Is it possible? I haven't played for a while.

RavySnake
RavySnake

IIRC, they do clone them but not all of them are vat grown

I think if in a given year they feel like their gonna be short on their soldier tithe raised "organically" they'll pump the numbers up with lab grown versions

RumChicken
RumChicken

Not quite.

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JunkTop
JunkTop

Heavy support options from each faction?

Nojokur
Nojokur

that short story got me into Dead Men Walking, both are good shit

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Lunatick
Lunatick

Based.

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Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

please consult uplifting leaflet 44447//b: All Things Great And Small And Why They Must Ultimately All Be Slaughtered To Ensure Permanent Human Hegemony
I love these

hairygrape
hairygrape

How do I run the best pattern marines? Squads of 5 with a melta gun? Any reason to run a squad of 10?

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Techpill
Techpill

Yeah want there a krieg colonel who was like 24?

Flameblow
Flameblow

I have three regular opponents who do this.

They'll measure out a movement distance, keep the measuring tap down when they do it. Then they'll take the inside guy, and move him to the other side of the ruler, then the next guy will be next to him, and so on and so on, until a troop unit that moves six inches ends up six inches forward and a foot to the left.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Is it Mon-key or Mon-kai? Or Mon-keyg?

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

For you it's pronounced fag-got.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I would suck her cock so you're not wrong there.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Vitae Womb tech seems to be more just artificial womb tech rather than cloning or pumping out mature soldiers. It's never explicitly described.

Harvest a bunch of eggs, fertilise them then stick them in tanks to gestate and you can produce far more kids per generation than a population relying on women carrying a single kid to term, seems the most likely reason but it might be cloning, that's speculated as one of the reasons Kriegers rarely remove their respirators.

They're raised from children by all accounts so they're definately not being decanted as fully grown adults regardless, they're raised collectively in military units, live fire exercises (sometimes against other trainee battalions or collections of wash-outs) and hunting mutants on the surface throughout childhood followed by being shipped off-world in their late teens.

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I call it Mon-Kai, unless I'm memeing, in which case it's Mon-Kayy-Lmao

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

So what would an anarcho-capitalist craftworld be like? I am working on my side craftworld that hangs out with my deldar and need some ideas

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MPmaster
MPmaster

Definitely

viagrandad
viagrandad

I'm gonna keep posting this until I get some (You)s.

I'm starting a new Tau army, but I'm having trouble deciding between three different options. I don't actually play 40k so it's irrelevant how effective the actual army would be.
Option A
A cadre from the Sa'Cea Sept stationed on a lush temperature rainforest world, on campaign against local ork warbands. Uniform would essentially be that of Cadians (khaki fatigues, olive green armor). A pretty even split between infantry and crisis suits, but few vehicles due to the terrain, and no auxiliaries.
Option B
A cadre from an (as-of-yet) unnamed colony that has been established on a jungle moon orbiting a gas giant, fighting against a local contingent of human guerillas. Uniform would consist of either black or dark brown fatigues and dark green, camouflaged armor, with black accents. After being stationed here for so long, the Fire Warriors have become somewhat "savage," decorating their armor with things like skull and tooth necklaces, hides of vicious local wildlife, the odd skull from a defeated enemy. A very Vietnam War-themed army. Army composition would be almost entirely infantry with a big focus on Kroot auxiliaries. The occasional battlesuit as well, very battle damaged and worn from years of use without much in the way of maintenance.
Option C
A cadre from the Vior'La Sept on campaign on a desert world not unlike Mars. Uniform would be bone-colored fatigues and dark red armor, with accessories like robes and headscarves to protect parts of the armor from the abrasive, microscopic dust that whirls around the planet in massive sandstorms. Heavy reliance on vehicles, all infantry units accompanied by a Devilfish, and maybe some flyers from Forge World.

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takes2long
takes2long

I've been seeing squads of 5 with plasma or melta and a combi weapon of the same type.

Heavy weapons for dev squads.

Also, mk3 master race bud

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Bidwell
Bidwell

Can someone help me with my world building? I need it for my next campaign and I feel it's full of holes.

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idontknow
idontknow

I use Mon-kai.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Thinking about keeping the crons after seeing the leaks.
Feeling good, even have some conversion ideas.
Have to build lycheguard

NOPE
Fuck these spines, fuck them right up the narrow canal through which their artificial nerves go through.

No more Necrons.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Also, I pronounce "Sa'cea" as Saah-kayuh.

Booteefool
Booteefool

S2 T2 W0 6+Sv

RIP in peice my dear old friend.

MPmaster
MPmaster

pic
I hope you liked my recommendation.

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cum2soon
cum2soon

45th for custodes

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iluvmen
iluvmen

Oh okay. I've had a tau and and orc opponent do this when I played last edition. They also had a bad habit of placing their minis at the end of the measure for an extra inch. Gotta say this made their movement phases hellishly long. Since they had to correct every few movements while muttering something about mistakenly nudging since they had so many models to move

Playboyize
Playboyize

Option B had the most "your dudes" vibe.

Also battle damaged and used armor is my fetish

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Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Doesn't everybody? The Tau don't have a distinction between the letters "C" and "K" in Low Gothic, so it stands to reason that that means they make the same sound.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Any leak yet for the ashes of prospero?

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Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Mon-Kaih

Firespawn
Firespawn

Meh, I still think they are an easy starter army even tho they break like crazy.

Easy to paint and the rules look ok. The monolith still looks like a giant kick me sign however.

Flameblow
Flameblow

tau
Sorry meant nid

RavySnake
RavySnake

I say mon-kay but the audiobooks I've heard literally just say monkey

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

It would be dark eldar

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Nothing will stop me from protecting this thread.

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Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Nth for show me your progress the cum-strat experiment worked out pretty well I think

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Nojokur
Nojokur

The destroyers are fine, the guy who made the immortal guns link to their back is a jerk but dear lord, I cannot come back to this army, its all so fiddly and spindly and balanced on a tiny nub

Spamalot
Spamalot

My brothers

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Soft_member
Soft_member

I've been saying ser-see-uh or say-see-uh this entire time but saah-kay-uh seems like it would be way more accurate

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Well that depends how you define the "anarcho" part. Capitalist is pretty straightforward.

If it's pure anarcho capitalism you'd expect militaries and police forces to all be privatized, which would mean that wars would all be fought by mercenaries hired by traders. Many disputes would devolve into conflict because force would remain an option in all trade arrangements, therefore biggest sticks tend to prevail.

If you rein that anarchy in to a more "minarchist" society, you can still have all the hookers, blow, privately-owned xenos beasties, and the like that you want but the instruments of defense and justice (of "force") would remain in control of government. So courts, prisons, police, and military would remain instruments of the government but everything else is fair game. Taxes would either be flat or more likely the government would run on voluntary contributions. Free riders would be shunned with public listings of who paid in and who did not.

likme
likme

You're the first person to respond with Option B, most people seem to like A and C even though I feel like B has the most character. I have a display board planned out if I do B. I really like the juxtaposition of having these super-advanced Tau warriors next to "primitive" stuff like buildings made out of wood and shit. So I think I'll have a central barracks/command center that is normal Tau architecture, surrounded by shit like earthen ramparts and trenches, tents for the Kroot and lower ranks, etc.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Can’t post a pic right now, but I have a couple DV heavy cultists with Skittle vanguard helms I’m excited to use for something finally

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

fully supported range coming 2018
FULLY
Are you sure, GW?

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Methnerd
Methnerd

Cum strat? I'm both curious and horrified.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Yeah. the tesseract ark loves to break in half also.

It makes me wish for failcast.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Sounds like you like Option B too user.

Go with what you're most interested in. I think B would be the funnest and would be nice to see some more healthy Tau players.

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BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Yeah, I have always expected plastic sisters.

But think about it. They need to make and stock inventory for a whole range of models.

Even if all the new models are done today. Making them and stocking them would take months.

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Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Yeah.
It doesn't help that my Primary army is vanilla marines and I don't want two shooting styled armies.

If anything, I'm waiting to see whats up with the rumors of World Eaters to get a melee styled one.

massdebater
massdebater

I put gloss varnish on the model and took a pic while it was drying. There was brief banter about hot-gluing my model.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Oh, thank god.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Is there any particular trick to dealing with Riptides as Custodes?
I'm in the process of building a 1500 point Custodes/SoS list (1100 points custodes, 400 points SoS) and my friend is one of those "owns 6 Riptides" Tau players and is planning on running at least 2 in his 1500 point lists.
Just about anything in the Tau codex Custodes can handle by throwing Jetbikers or Axe Terminators at them, but the Riptide's wounds, ability to disengage from combat and retain full offensive capacity and the ability to stay outside of reliable charge range make it a substantial threat.
Should I simply try and minimise their effectiveness over the game through the use of cover and line of sight blocking, or is there something I can do to cripple their power early on?

Emberburn
Emberburn

the funnest

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TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Run some bikes in their face.

StonedTime
StonedTime

My monolith towers fall off even more than my old XV8 chicken feet. Now there's just layer upon layer of glue & I'm not sure what to do aside from sticking the thing in the freezer & seeing if it's possible to start again

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Beat the player with golden cane.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Duncan has bad pronunciation.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Not quite but their interests may align at times

So free rider problems have solutions in ancapistan that aren't really important right now. I am mostly curious about how a craftworld would look if everything boiled down to voluntary association. I really don't have the best craftworld society lore knowledge so that is what is holding me back

Supergrass
Supergrass

I'm sorry.

*the most fun

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

bikespam.

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Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

At least there's no more metal immortals.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Do Scions work well as min-squads or max with hot shots dropped in RF range with Valkyrie?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

I've thought about it, the only issue I can foresee is getting them within range early on to do enough damage. I could use 2 CP to Deepstrike them right next to my Terminator Vexilla and charge within turn two, but I'm not sure how successful it'd be.

5mileys
5mileys

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Gigastrength
Gigastrength

You do know bike are switching to 1 per detatchment right?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Oh fucking hell, I had issues with metal veterans back in the day, I can't imagine those nightmares.

I grabbed a metal destroyer lord (which was really just a metal chest and arms on a plastic base with a CHIPPED FLIGHT STAND AND PLUGGED HOLE) and I forgot how awful it is to get those things to glue

Methshot
Methshot

*had

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PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Beat the shit out of your friend for being a fucking cunt. I cannot stand battlesuitfags. They give Tau players a bad name.

Evilember
Evilember

Yeah, bikes in the face or try the beta rules units for anti tank. Despite popular opinion salvo launcers are not that bad anti tank in practice.

Really sisters and custard isn't that great of a combo imho. Sisters and custard are both anti inf.
I would go hellbasters or guard. with azzy or ultra for CP return.

You could try mass melta or seraphim to the face.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Riptides can't do shit against Custodes jetbikes

eGremlin
eGremlin

With regards to Fuegan, does a "first fight phase" ever happen if no one gets in range or charges for the first turn?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

where did you get that info
?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

*Might be. According to rumour.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

If this situation was on the tabletop, cuckstodes would get raped so hard it isn't even funny.

t. user that wiped the majority of a 2k point army with my one 30 bloodletter squad turn one.

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Illusionz
Illusionz

How do I paint Tau fast? I want to get 6 crisis suits, a fireblade, 6 stealth suits, and some 30ish FW I want to get done in about one day.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

The worst part was the front of the gun, two long flimsy bits of metal attaching the front nozzle and two plastic rods that you couldn't get super glue.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Yes, read the whole thing

girlDog
girlDog

That was just the Tau. Necrons themselves didn't even get that treatment.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Not entirely sure what you mean. It's the first fight phase in which he loses a wound.

5mileys
5mileys

Im getting back into 40k after a 5 year break. Haven't read 8e or the new Space Marines codex, but I've heard they've come out with something called Primaris marines that are finally truescale. I know a lot of people are butthurt but can I play these as regular troop choices or do they count as elites or some shit?

I've dreamed of a truescale Space Marine army for so long and it finally looks like it's a possibility

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takes2long
takes2long

Ugh.
I know metal looked nice and had far less issues than finecast but damn if it wsn't a pain in the ass to work with.

Need more plastic.

massdebater
massdebater

spray black
airbrush any color you like
neat up the black parts and recesses with nuln oil
call it a day

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Someone posted another chart showing the space wolves as having no successor chapters, but this is showing 4, who was right?

Skullbone
Skullbone

We were never soldiers.

Whenever we are seen outside the walls of this place, as rare as that is, it is in our martial aspect. We are clad in gold, just as it was in the earliest days when He was our living captain, and mortals fall on their faces as if before gods. To them, it must seem as if we are wrath incarnate. To them, it must seem as if we were created for destruction and nothing else.

But we were His companions, once. We were the ones in whom He confided. We were His counsellors, we were His artisans. We were the first glimpse of what the species could become, if shepherded aright and unshackled from its vicious weaknesses.

Of course, we were taught to fight. He knew that war would come. It was a necessary part of the ascension, though it was never destined to last for eternity. We were the guardians of a new age, and had to be strong enough to keep it secure.

We failed in that, and now wear the mark of that failure in the black robes that cover our auramite. It is a permanent reminder, replacing the cloaks of blood-red that once adorned our battle-plate. It weighs heavy with every one of us, for we know more of the nature of the fall than most. We still recite the old stories, and we study in the lost archives where we alone are suffered to tread, and so do not have the comforting illusions of ignorance to salve the wound. In a galaxy defined by ignorance, we remember. We cultivate the shards of the thing that was broken, and remain aware of what would have been.

We have many duties. But that is just as it should be, for we are not simple creations. The aeons have changed us in so many ways, but not in that.

We were a thousand things to a thousand souls, but we were never soldiers

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Firespawn
Firespawn

Can confirm this works and for nearly every army.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

"At the end of the first fight phase"... I did read the whole thing. hence my question: what if there was no fight phase on turn one? No mention of turns in the ruling. YOU read the whole thing.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I Hope lychguards stays as troop even if the leaker says it is a mistake.
While I know that lychguards are literally the elite honourguard of the Necrons, having melee units as troop really opened up possibilities in listbuilding.
Flayed Ones are also a decent troop option, but even rarer than the lychguard lorewise.

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TechHater
TechHater

Unlikely purely because Custodes already suffer from no HQ options syndrome. There's no support HQ, so it's basically impossible to take a list without multiple shield captains.

FastChef
FastChef

I don't play eldar(i) so I can't answer with specifics.

I know that Craftworld eldar make a point to keep their emotions suppressed as much as possible lest they empower the Chaos gods, which I imagine would make for a pretty tame society like the Amish in space. I'm not sure how they'd get along with dark eldar that are the exact opposite except through complete segregation. Everyone would camp out in their own little corners and try to ignore each other until war erupted and forced them to cooperate. Sorry, I'm not much help.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Long-time battlesuitfag here. Am I part of the problem even if I hate anything bigger than a XV9 & only have a single commander?

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

lel, the riptides are nowhere near as bad as they were before so dont stress them

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

poorly painted single-color armies

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Supergrass
Supergrass

You've gotten (You)s in three threads fuck off already

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

To make things worse, he was one of those "If the Tau codex sucks, I'll shelve the army until 9th" guys. Last ed he ran Riptide Wings for his Tau, and all Drop Pod spam for his Wolves.
He's a power gamer and always runs optimised lists, so I'm looking to make sure I don't get curbstomped right out the gate.

Thanks for the advice. I know SoS aren't great, and are a particularly poor choice with Custodes, but I like the Talons of the Emperor look. If it turns out I get stomped on a lot, I'll look into switching out allies.
Any advice on what to take out of FW's beta rules? The modelless Dreadnought seems pretty cool for a long range threat.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

This ain't lotr senpai, I just want to play and not do so with grey plastic.

likme
likme

Man who knows.

I'm half-heartedly toying with using my stealth suits in a "troops" capacity, knowing full well they don't really have the efficiency to pull it off.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

they're tau players too

wew

Methshot
Methshot

Someone posted another chart
Can I see it?

Mine includes chaos warbands from space wolves and primaris

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

How is my baby very first list? Terrible shit or just a shit?
I want to get a Prospero box, keep 30 marines, trade my Tartaros termies for Cata Termies (they match mk III marines better aesthetic-wise) and sell everything else to buy 2 HQs and a predator

Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [49 PL, 1000pts]

HQ
Captain in Cataphractii Armor [8 PL, 150pts]: Chainfist, Combi-bolter
Chaplain [5 PL, 79pts]: Plasma pistol

Troops
3x Tactical Squad [5 PL, 94pts]
- 3x Space Marine
- Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Melta bombs, Plasma pistol
- Space Marine w/Special Weapon: Meltagun

Elites
Cataphractii Terminator Squad [12 PL, 293pts]
- Cataphractii Sergeant: Chainfist, Combi-bolter, Grenade harness
- 3x Cataphractii Terminator: Chainfist, Combi-bolter
- Cataphractii Terminator w/Heavy Flamer: Chainfist, Heavy flamer

Heavy Support
Predator [9 PL, 196pts]: Hunter-killer missile, Twin lascannon, Two Lascannons

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Skullbone
Skullbone

so my Deldar archon made a deal with some of the craftworlders so they meet up for raids on the lesser races and trade but don't live near each other or mix for more than a day at a time under strict business contracts

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

This thing?
Well, it is a bit older and is only showing loyalist chapters.
So first, the Wolfspear, who are a brand new founding by Guilliman of his Primaris marines, probably didn't exist when this was made.
Second the Wolf Brothers were the only actual successor chapter founded from them(at least of the Second Founding), but they kept mutating so the Inquisition ordered it purged and they ran off and joined Chaos. The other two were just whole companies of Space Wolves who ran off to worship Chaos.

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Firespawn
Firespawn

It's not talking about any fight phase on turn one. It's talking about "the first fight phase in which Fuegan lost one or more wounds." It doesn't matter what turn it happens on, the ability occurs when he first loses a wound in a fight phase.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Is this all of them? That a lot of chapters, good effort my fella

RavySnake
RavySnake

Fuck off, suits are fine. Two Riptides in 1500 points isn't though.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

That would just kill custodes. Even for 1000pts I'm bringing 3 bike caps and 9 spear guards

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Oh. That explains it.

Booteefool
Booteefool

veekyforums.com/thread/58499422/games
Infantry Squad=40 points
Platoon Commander=20 points
20/10=2
Ergo, for those 4 shots you effectively take 6ppm. You take 7 for 2 shots at 21" to our 4 shots at 12".

Alternatively, a fireblade gives you 3 S5 Rapid Fire to our 4 S3 rapid fire.

askme
askme

Shadow wolves
Imperial Fist geneseed

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hairygrape
hairygrape

No, I don't consider you a battlesuitfag unless you spam commanders or the Riptides and Ghostkeels and all that other goofy shit they started releasing. I was okay with the broadsides because I thought it was kinda cool to have an artillery battlesuit, but now it's just gotten out of hand

TreeEater
TreeEater

Is this all of them?
Naeh.
I was going through a list alphabetically of unknown foundings, just did A-B.
They're listed under "Unknown 2" there.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Where is this from?

Firespawn
Firespawn

still no tau pdf

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

waaah
I need my waacfag crutch
You're literally the same as taufags crying about commander limit.

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RumChicken
RumChicken

New Ghazghkul model that's Beast-sized.

DeathDog
DeathDog

This chart is out of date. Raptors are OD green now.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

SW August
Orks December and model release.

He recently had another leak confirmed which was water elves.
Safe to say the above is looking very likely though the dates could shift a bit.

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StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Apparently created by an author whose wife loved the Luna Wolves(the guys that became the Black Legion) in the Horus Heresy novels.
warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow_Wolves

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

2 riptides overcharging will barely kill a primaris squad, how exactly is that broken?

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Both the dreads are good. But over priced.

The grav tank is great tho. it fits well with a outrider detachment of bikes.

Also, the grav tank has a very long range if you are fighting riptides and a higher strength.

Booteefool
Booteefool

SPEED FREEKS

takes2long
takes2long

4 shots and infiltrate is pretty good man, I'm using them as my foot soldiers but thats because I have way the fuck too many, they are sexy

askme
askme

new orks subfaction
Sorry, the source just lost all credibility.

massdebater
massdebater

Not happening. Go by the icons on the data sheets and not where they’re listed in the back

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

SW August
Here's hoping Bjorn gets the Venerable Dreadnought keyword he deserves.

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Playboyize
Playboyize

waacfag
user, I need those bikes to have a slightly chance of winning. Sure I can field 2 termie captains, guards and termie vexilla but that's auto-lose. It's not about me - being a fuckin speed bump rather than a challenging opponent is just a waste of time for my opponents

SniperWish
SniperWish

Knights codex was also rumored for after the xenos trio

StonedTime
StonedTime

Cheers, I'll have to look into that. I'm not 100% sold on the Custodes Gravtanks in terms of their appearance, but I am building a FW Jetbiker as my Relic jetbike Captain, so one wouldn't be that out of place.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

OH ZOG ME! NEW MODELS FOR SPEED FREEKS?!

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Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Gon' be red orcs that go super extra fast.

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Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

When was water elves confirmed?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

For background
Water Elves were confirmed today.
He was also right about codex order being Tau-Necrons-DE all along, on top of the other stuff. So, looking very, very reliable.

Shame he nuked his account after he got famous so no more leaks from him sadly.

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Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

meh if bikes get changed to 1 per detachment. It would make the army almost unplayable.

I could see bike captains changed tho. Shit is OP.

The army just doesn't have enough units to put limits on basic shit.

happy_sad
happy_sad

thin yo paints

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Why haven't you made your own dudes yet user? You don't want everyone to think you unoriginal, do you?

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Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

I like the ghostkeel in isolation but I don't like what it does for the rest of the army (completely invalidates the point in having crisis & stealthsuits for a start - whole deal was stealth systems only being worthwhile on smaller suits with less firepower). Broadside was more than fine for the reasons that you said & I thought Hazards' aesthetic gelled well even if it's pretty much a straight upgrade of the crisis (needs less mobility or some other kind of tradeoff aside from no missiles & Shas'vre only)

Ah, didn't get that far across. Look like there's a shitload of those ones then

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Rumor is just about bike captains. That shit is straight up OP for the point cost and rightfully spammed in the retarded Suprememe Command detachments.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Its all fear mongering, Tau Commanders are supposed to be crazy but also rare so it makes sense that they'd get limited. There is almost nothing else that can compare with them on that front so I think Custard bikers will be fine

FastChef
FastChef

Can Tau suits use nova reactors during opponent's turns?

JunkTop
JunkTop

Marines have them in a couple slots. They're just like marines; different sqauds are equipped with different weapons and armor to serve different purposes.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Well the "Cthulu" whatevers were basically announced today
warhammer-community.com/2018/03/14/kill-team-doom-lords-van-saar-and-moregw-homepage-post-1/

Illusionz
Illusionz

Supreme Command was a mistake

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Hang on, if the Custodes are supposed to wear black robes over their armor, how come none of the models they released have that?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I wanted Admech X Imperial Guard, there was very little need to make my own dudes, when Vostroyans already existed.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

But I did, user. Now no one can call me a waacfag for playing with the strongest legion traits and best options desu senpai
It's 100% upside.

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I did, but then I got interested in GW's dudes. I'm sorry my little dudes

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

That's not a confirmation, and he was wrong about codexes.
Stop shilling this.

MPmaster
MPmaster

You aren't projecting, are you user?

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w8t4u
w8t4u

how`?

askme
askme

more cocking stormshat

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likme
likme

When you guys build a small army, how do you know when you’re done. I’ve bought nearly every Primaris kit I want and am painting them as Brazen Claws. I just barely have enough to hit 2000 points with no units to switch out from game to game. If I just play them as is, won’t that get boring for me and my opponents?

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PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I have. My tau battleforce is led by an ethereal who uses persuasion and reason rather than pheromones, to protect their hidden planet of freedom, innovation, and greed from all threats, including other tau.

Snarelure
Snarelure

The fuck are water elves? I know literally 0 Eldar players irl

RavySnake
RavySnake

with the return of Guilliman they can redeem themselves and don the red

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Charge 3d6 out of deepstrike. Tie up the whole army of meme custodians, fight twice and roll very well.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Be right about absolutely everything even obtuse shit like Custodes faction out of nowhere and water elves
he waz rung bout codeces

Cat is out of the bag GW, we know what you've got coming this year. You can't suppress all the leaks.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

After Rowboat told them they had to fight again they put the red robes back on and said they were atoning for their failure during the heresy

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I have! Now I need that sweet sweet Deldar Codex to give them super special rules and all that Jazz.

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Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I could see that.
They are stupid good for soup. I hope that it's after adeptacon tho.

I want to see imperial soup win for a change.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I tried but at some point in my teens I lost all creativity & can't come up with shit without having them interact heavily with already established lore

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

three of every choice so you can spam whenever you want to.

I would tell you to simply build a full battle company or chapter but with Jellyman back I'm not sure those are too defined anymore.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

The next AoS faction, Idoneth Deepkin

Spamalot
Spamalot

That really depends on you m8, I run a similar list nearly every game because I like the synergy between my dudes and that will always be fun for me even if it makes me a tad predictable

Soft_member
Soft_member

Be right about absolutely everything even obtuse shit like Custodes faction out of nowhere and
lol no
water elves
No proof that these are even elves.

girlDog
girlDog

Anytime I have paid for a whole list at 1 time it sits unpainted till I sell it.

Getting it a box at a time seems to keep my interest more....but to each his own.

farquit
farquit

Idoneth deepkin, a new source of shitposts for /AoSg/.

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haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Elves from the plane of water. They mostly play control, but can sometimes have green or black swapped in for variety.

Inmate
Inmate

God damn, Van Saar is looking sexy right there.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Oh, assumed it was 40k. Feel much better for being clueless now

SniperWish
SniperWish

because whenever I have an idea, it just ends up being slightly different GW stuff. I might as well just take the real stuff when that happens.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

A man challenges you to a 2000 pt game. When he begins unzipping his case, you see he has pic related tatooed on his hand. What army does he unpack?

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TechHater
TechHater

The helmets feel too much out of another setting (Infinity maybe?) but otherwise I'm a fan

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Deldar

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

chaos, how is that even in question?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

AoS is just 40k.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Khorne Daemon Prince: are wings mandatory? Should I be bringing talons or is the axe viable for taking out big guys?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Every MTG player I know played Space Marines

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Daemons

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I want to use Orlocks as infantry squads. What doctrine would best represent them?

King_Martha
King_Martha

Deldar covens oooor Nurgle?

happy_sad
happy_sad

This guy and half a dozen marines and I'll be happy

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5mileys
5mileys

Guard - DKoK to be precise

likme
likme

I can see that but I'm digging them nonetheless.

hairygrape
hairygrape

A skull? Has to be the Crons.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

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Snarelure
Snarelure

are wings mandatory?
yes
Should I be bringing talons or is the axe viable for taking out big guys?
Magnetize, but for Khorne DP it goes Skullreaver > Talons > other wargear

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Murder clowns

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Nah, 'crons are definitely colorless.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Know shit all about MtG but the guys who played it at my local nerd club had the most eclectic mix of armies out of any of us. Always the ones most stretched for games too so...whatever we arranged?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

No army, inside his pack is Space Hulk the board game

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I love Warhammer but I kind of feel like quitting the hobby. Everyone at my LGS suffers from the whole, "If I'm not winning then I'm not having fun" school of thought and it really ruins the experience of playing.

Interested in Necromunda? They'll look up whatever the strongest strategy is and use that.

Shadow War: Armageddon? Tyranid and Harlequin spam out the wazoo.

It's just really frustrating have no chance whatsoever of winning if I want to play something that isn't completely WAAC.

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Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

paint so thick you'd leave fingerprints in it

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Xenos-fags, does playing an NPC army bother you?

Then again, everything that isn't a Marine is NPC.

Lunatick
Lunatick

I would follow the great horned rat into the 42nd millennium.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Try to find a different LGS? I don't know what your area is like.

girlDog
girlDog

As good as your naught looks, I really doubt you will be able to take dreads.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Same could be said for Space Marine Captains, but I regularly see them fielded.

massdebater
massdebater

Find another store/group.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Nope! Not being a primary focus gives more wiggle room for <Your dudes> and less rushing around to buy shit coming out every other week!

Firespawn
Firespawn

damn dude, that really sucks. I know it isnt the same but have you checked out the tabletop simulator groups? Theres always people looking for fun or interesting matches with meme builds galore

SniperGod
SniperGod

That's because you rarely need, or can afford, more than one captain.

You buy him for his bubble, stick him and a lieutenant near your big shooty units, and let him go to work.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

just WAAC harder you big baby

RumChicken
RumChicken

Here's a good one, and a nice trick for all eldar players actually
get pan
place models in pan
hang self upside down over pan
slit own neck
drain own blood over models until death

Honestly, it's something all eldar players should do.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

None of the players in my area are like this and most play with competitive/meta armies. I play at multiple stores too.

Must be some local problem for you user. Try to meet more people or just take a break if you're not having fun.

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JunkTop
JunkTop

Heralds of ruin is the way for you vermin brother!

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PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Dark Eldar slit their penis.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

playing an NPC army
playing a non-player character

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

4 autocannons

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Because I loved the default colours for Deldar, and got too far painting that to go back, now.
I may eventually /my dudes/ a subsection of them.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Nowhere else you can go? No friends into it who don't go to your LGS for similar reasons? Definitely sounds like it sucks man. Is playing the game vital to the hobby for you? A lot of people in this general don't even play or even own any minis but still enjoy what they do take part in

Looks more like he just didn't clean the models up properly before starting to paint. A lot of that texture - particularly the head lump & everything on its right arm - was standard on the old suits (which I think that one is)

Spamalot
Spamalot

NPC in this context means tertiary characters. Usually in the lore, it's Marines fighting against X. X being anything non-marine.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Yeah, I have always expected plastic sisters
Everyone point and laugh at this idiot

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

There's a few different game stores around me, but only two have tables for wargaming. One is the one in my original post, and the other is a couple blocks away from the first and shares 90% of the same community.

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Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Fuck you I like my night lords

Firespawn
Firespawn

Plastic shitsters will never happen. Move on.

StonedTime
StonedTime

I have a ban request pending but I want to say they look like Mustard Rangers.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Is everyone in there like that? You could try forming a garagehammer group with any outliers.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Excellent tastes user!

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Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Killteam video has Thunderwolf Cavalry on the table
Alongside more SW units

Clearly the scale is small but not that small.
Someone was wondering if terminators or custodes would be in, and since GW said "dozens of factions", the only thing probably sitting out is Imperial Knights.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Not trying to upset you, but have you considered that maybe you and your perception of the game may be the problem and not the rest of the people or the world?

If others around you are still playing and having fun and you are one of the few that aren't, it may be something to think about.

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Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

not finding a way to yourdudes your dudes even if you can't <Your Dudes> them
If you can't faction or subfaction then you just do your creative work at the next level down

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

My friends who play are all part of that group.

I don't really see the point in owning mini's if I don't play the game.

One or two people aren't, but they rarely come into the shop and they're generally not the most pleasant people to be around.

Spamalot
Spamalot

I’ll repeat what I’ve told everyone else;
The only npc’s are <not your dudes>
Your dudes are the PCs, always

girlDog
girlDog

I think light vehicles under 10 wounds will be allowed. Otherwise you won't be able to take a squad of scions and a transport or sentinels or light stuff.
Dreads are just light support units, they're not that strong

idontknow
idontknow

Reminder that YOUR DUDES love you

Methnerd
Methnerd

Convincing people to play a fan game.
I wish spaven would become a meme now that vermintide has become a hit and even normies are starting to know what they are.

Skullbone
Skullbone

He literally said they weren't having fun if they weren't winning

Emberfire
Emberfire

That is not the case. Every game at the store is one player bitching and the other being smug about winning.

DeathDog
DeathDog

From his point of view and they are coming back for games.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Stealth, terror marines

giant obvious bat wings on their heads

Lunatick
Lunatick

Probably be a power cap
Game size 100-500 points, units power level of say, above 8 not allowed

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

mini knight joins the fray!!!

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

What if that is really fun for them user? What's wrong with that?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

My dudes would hate me for the shit I put them through

farquit
farquit

The Drowned Haifisch of Tyrsen
I remember those fuckers. It sucks TG decided that boarding an enemy ship by trying to flood it with warp-fucked homeworld water and then mount an amphibious assault against an enemy unprepared to fight under water wasn't very 40k.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I don't think so, but I don't know for sure

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

I have my own warband fluff for them.

Techpill
Techpill

That's a different argument entirely.

Methnerd
Methnerd

So is he. It's the hope that you might have fun that keeps everyone going back. The others may get it if they win. He doesn't because he still has to play against WAACy little bitches. That's why he's the one considering leaving & (probably) not them

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Whats a good name for a shadowsword?

Evilember
Evilember

Hey so I need 10 storm shields but don't want to pay bitzstore won't run my card, and I don't want to buy a 2 boxes of units I won't use.

Does anyone have an stl file of a storm shield or a link to one that doesn't have any faction on it.
(unless Blood Angels because guess what)

Firespawn
Firespawn

Guardsmen CHARGE THAT TITAN!

Ahh but sir it's a titan. I SAID CHARGE!

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TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Drill that barrel, it looks like a lipstick gun atm

RavySnake
RavySnake

sounds terrible to me user.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

How will GW make Deldar deadlier and competitive?

TechHater
TechHater

My dudes probably dislike the fact that they're a planetary defense force for an automated mining station on a hoth-like planet. I rely on their adherence to the Greater Good and admiration for their commanders to keep them in line.

FastChef
FastChef

I think I touched the primer while it was still wet
This guy gets it. They're the OG suits. I use a wet palette now. Much thinner paint

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I would like to hear about /yourdudes/ greatest accomplishment

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Higher points for dark lance lower for everything else.

I have seen DE one turn somebody when they get first. DE are ok they just need relics and strats.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Basedblade

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

A sign of skill that they can still gank people on the sneak tip! Also I really like the description of them as patchwork armor wearing murderhobos.

Nojokur
Nojokur

There you go then, you've made your own dudes & have been about as original as you can in a pre-existing setting with fixed factions & largely filled-out subfactions

Illusionz
Illusionz

Advance and charge if within 6" of a friendly character.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

They won't

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Is that fan-art?

King_Martha
King_Martha

They're getting painted

Spamalot
Spamalot

Whatever you say slannesh!

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Soft_member
Soft_member

lots of spergs google to see whats on top rather than apply critical thought. You see it in any competitive scene.

Run an anti-meta army, you might not always win but you'll have lots of fun. There aren't so many hard counters to a playstyle in 40k as there are in other games, but they are there.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

So how's kill team? Says it's a 40k skirmish wargame, what's the difference from Necromunda?

viagrandad
viagrandad

Had a cataphracti captain with relic blade and combi-melta duel the swarm lord for 2.5 game turns before it tried to run and he melta'd him in the back.

likme
likme

Ethereals largely use both. Mostly the former, in fact.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Yes, some user drew it for a local tournament.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I think raiders might get a small increase, my DE player always takes 4 raiders and a like 15 dark lances and it is annoying AF

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

It's like Necromunda for 40k armies. Except less like Necromunda and more like 40k where every model is a unit and three get useless special rules you will forget every time they would benefit you.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Instead of deploying 50+ models, arranged in squads, across a large warzone, you deploy less than 20 models, each individually controlled, in a small area with lots of cover

StonedTime
StonedTime

"Say My Name." My cousin was a tanker in the Invasion of Iraq and they named their tank "War Pig." This was before the stupid fucking Call of Duty game.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Using reason to convince people into communism is impossible, because communism is unreasonable. Ergo, it is 100% mind control and lies that most ethereals use.

JunkTop
JunkTop

why haven't the haemonculus covens taken over the dark eldar? don't all the kabals and cults rely on them?

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Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

pretty much

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whereismyname
whereismyname

Why does GW have paint brushes for $50.50?

happy_sad
happy_sad

To forge a narrative.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

They are VERY special paint brushes.

Inmate
Inmate

anyone?

Skullbone
Skullbone

They don't care for things as trivial as the petty squabbles between cults and kabals. As long as both bring in the bodies regularly, the covens will continue their practice.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Cawdor
W H E N
H
E
N

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

What brush do they sell that's $50? Afaik their most expensive brush now is like $20 for a super fine detail brush, and I'm sorry to say that if you think that's expensive you're a fucking poorfag. My Series 7 collection is probably worth like $400.

TechHater
TechHater

"Essential". I just want try painting some models and I need the right stuff to start off.

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FastChef
FastChef

They would rather fiddle around in their labyrinth central workshops. Governing is the lowest tier of their wants. From reading path of the dark eldar those fuckers get ROCK HARD for some science.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

is that a motherfucking crassus

how does it play

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Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

So as a Sons of Medusa character Vaylund Cal would be forced to take the Iron Hands warlord trait correct?

Or am I able to pick whatever warlord trait I want? I heard there was some issue with forgeworld named characters and I wanted to clear this up.

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Lunatick
Lunatick

The Essential citadel brush collection.

askme
askme

My dudes are probably grateful their small chapter is getting recognition but disappointed their painting is taking so long.

Inmate
Inmate

path of the dark eldar
omnibus has been sitting on my shelf since last year, worth a read? BL stuff is very hit or miss in my opinion.

likme
likme

Just take whatever, Forgeworld doesn't give a fuck about 8th.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

$50 for a set of that many brushes is not expensive, newfriend. Citadel brushes are of pretty good quality, too. Not the best but certainly above average. If you think you're going to really get into this, just bite the bullet and get them. Learn how to take care of them and they'll last a lifetime, you're going to be buying more brushes at some point or another anyways.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Kabals have a lot of fire power, man power, but most importantly do the vast majority of the raiding so they bring in the most wealth.
Wych cults have power over the masses as their arenas are one of the main sources of soul power for your average DE citizen.

Perhaps most importantly though each has their own niche in society that they have absolute power over and none has enough strength to easily wipe out the other, and are in fact stronger when they aren't back stabbing each other.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

A basic brush set from an art supply store is fine. As long as you have 1 ultra this brush for details your good.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

GW brushes are of pretty good quality so it's not actually a bad deal if you look at other quality brush costs. You can find other brushes like army painter ones if you're on a budget.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

It's only survived two games in its existence. It's only gotten its cargo out before it's exploded on three occasions.
It's the greatest unit ever, I love it. It's like driving an anthill

SniperGod
SniperGod

It’s what tipped me in the direction of the army. Gives a really good window into all the moving parts of the dark city.

RavySnake
RavySnake

They don't and this post is fake news. Their most expensive single brush is the medium artificer brush at $26

StonedTime
StonedTime

You don't need to spend $50 on GW branded brushes, if you're just starting out get a size 0 round, a size 5ish angled/flat and a cheap shit brush if you want to drybrush
I'd recommend getting synthetic to start with unless you know what you're doing for brush care

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

It's not even the brushes that get me. It's probably going to be all the paint I need.
K.
I don't know what I'm doing.

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Ignoramus
Ignoramus

do you think he hugs that mystique looking one?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

no

King_Martha
King_Martha

Same reason most scientists aren't politicians.

As long as fresh slaves are brought into the Dark City, they are happy.

Also, they have enough power to basically be untouchable and unconcerned with the day to day squabbling of the kabals.

Archons don't touch them because they know they'd never be resurrected if they fucked up.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Small campaign buildup of haemonculi covens v deathwatch/inquisition as van helsing v vampires, Y/N?

Low key want to start a haemonculi army regardless of tier

takes2long
takes2long

The shills are out in force tonight.

Are both correct, and not lying to you to earn shekels.

Also, third party casts are increasing in quality, and you can often get better models for your army by repurposing other game materials. Sisters of Battle players often turn to raging heroes for example. .

askme
askme

all the paint I need.
Well for starters, don't buy Citadel paints. Citadel makes very good washes, and I like some of their technical stuff and their new texture paints, but Vallejo makes much cheaper paint that you can get more of. It also cuts down on waste because they use dropped bottles.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Anyone who likes GW is a shill.

Why do you even participate in this hobby?

Firespawn
Firespawn

this
See: Foetid Bloat Drone video

SniperGod
SniperGod

shill
You're just a poorfag, dude. I just looked up the set user was talking about and it works out to like $8 per brush. Citadel brushes are better than the garbage you'll find at Hobby Lobby so that's really not a bad deal.

I don't give a fuck what he buys, I just don't think he should waste money on cheap $3 pieces of shit from the local hobby store that aren't fit to spread PVC glue around. I don't even use Citadel brushes anymore, I use my Winsor Newtons almost exclusively.

WebTool
WebTool

Anyone who lies about GW pricing vs GW quality is definitely a shill. You can like the source material while recognizing that everything GW produces is overpriced.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

...oh

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

not playing this game with third-patry minis, third-party paint, and third-party codexes exclusively

RumChicken
RumChicken

Get pic related to start with, but you can go even cheaper with some art store junk ones. Honestly though if you can't even afford paint and think gw paints are expensive it isn't the hobby for you.

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

One of my Vanguard of the Vanox Maniple took the last hull point off a Knight in overwatch back in 7th ed.

In 8th edition I had a Plague Marine guy with the plaguespewer kill off a Lictor on overwatch, followed by two other lictors and a wounded Hive Tyrant who also did not survive. The plague guy died to mass Termagaunts the next turn.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Buy a wet pallette for 10 dollars. Never waste paint again.

massdebater
massdebater

Had a dragoon that killed a friend's bloodthirster 3 times during 7th ed, haven't had anything so heroic in 8th

Methshot
Methshot

everything GW produces is overpriced.
Lol, this shit again. Even if you're just going by the prices of the models and shit, GW is NOT that overpriced when compared to most other models. Go ahead and go to Hobby Lobby and pick up a box of decently detailed WWII soldiers from Tamiya or something. You'll find that most of them are like $20-$30. The quality of most GW models blows these out of the fucking water, not to mention the customization available to them.

Citadel brushes are not that overpriced either. For $8 you get a brush that will last you through the beginner and intermediate stage of painting, and as long as you take care of them they'll be around for a while. The only thing Citadel makes that I will agree is completely overpriced are their tools.

There is no point in wasting money on cheap brushes right from the get-go. I know it's tempting, but I would rather have a beginner buy a single $20 brush than a whole garbage pack of 100 when first starting out. By buying cheap brushes, all you're doing is ensuring that your work will be full of broken bristles, you'll be unable to keep a point and do fine detail, and you'll quickly get discouraged and quit or something.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

I want to convert the new weeb bodysuit necromunda guys into a bodyguard for my inquisitor.

Good idea y/n?

Snarelure
Snarelure

Telling a guy who doesn't know shit about painting to drop $50 on brushes is just irresponsible, you should get a feel for how to actually care for shit before getting something worth taking care of

Flameblow
Flameblow

GW may overprice because they don't produce at the scale necessary to have competitive pricing (which they don't need because they already have people in the store), but that doesn't mean that their products are of bad quality.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I had a single custodes with a shield and sword walk across the table and kill a damaged russ tank.

It was kinda stupid.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

yeah, they look pretty nice and would probably fit.

FastChef
FastChef

Okay. Thanks, user.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

they don't look 40k enough to be an Inquisitor's bodyguard. their shit looks xenos based.
actually it looks imported from Infinity but who am I to say

askme
askme

why would it be a problem?

Playboyize
Playboyize

No it isn't, see:

Citadel brushes are more than worthy of being taken care of. Again, if you think $8 per brush is expensive, you're a fucking tard. I don't give a shit what brush he buys, but wasting money on cheap shit isn't doing anyone any favors. They will quickly get trashed, he'll end up with all kinds of broken bristles and shit in his paintjobs, and he'll be unable to do virtually any kind of fine detail work. I have seen plenty of beginners who were more than capable of doing things like adding eyes and lens flare when they were given a proper brush to work with. Obviously it still takes practice, but many beginners get very discourage when they compare their stuff to 'Eavy Metal and cannot understand how the pros get as finely detailed as they do. A lot of it is skill, yeah, but it also has a fuck ton to do with what brush you're using.

I wouldn't expect an expert marksman to hit a bullseye at 500 yards with a beat-to-shit .22, and I wouldn't expect even a professional painter to make a masterpiece with a lousy brush.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Oh shit, if you convert Van Saar gangers they'd probably look good as a new xeno race. Helmet-less heads + maybe hands if you don't want humanoid hands and you're golden, the helmets they come with already look xeno-y enough. Could probably get away with using them as Tau Auxiliaries.

Also is it just me or does the paint scheme + armor look a bit like DE?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

sounds metal as fuck man, i've been thinking of getting a gorgon but its oop so

whereismyname
whereismyname

I never said GW made bad quality products shill (though now that you bring it up, they absolutely do. I said that the quality GW offers you is not worth the price.

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Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

similar to how the worst thing you can give someone who wants to learn guitar is a cheap shitty guitar

girlDog
girlDog

Had a my space marine captain make 22 invul saves in a row holding an objective by himself against eldar back in 4th edition. pretty fucking epic fight. He did eventually fail enough wounds and died but my opponent spent nearly their entire turn shooting him and it go me the win.

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Playboyize
Playboyize

I completely agree, but some people are just butthurt poorfags that want everything to be free. GW paint supplies have come a long way over the years and are completely worth the money plus you can get them with like 10-20% off.

Techpill
Techpill

the shill is getting upset

SniperWish
SniperWish

stormlords are better, if less interesting

StonedTime
StonedTime

Dark eldar slave fodder when??

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Are citadel brushes nylon?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Just because you're getting cheaper brushes doesn't mean you're getting bad brushes, you can get winsor and newton or daler rowney synthetic brushes for half the price GW is asking and they're at least equal quality to those they offer
$8 isn't overpriced for a brush, it is however overpriced for the quality you're getting

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

2v2, My Kriegers and admech vs marines and more marines
A lone marshal blocked a squad of th/ss assault termies from charging and killing an Onager on 3 wounds
Tabled the marines the next turn

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Poorfags think they are entitled to play this luxury hobby.

GW IS OVERPRICED!

Really? Or are you just unable to afford GW's products?

I wonder if other hobbies have this problem too.

Booteefool
Booteefool

I think the cheaper ones are, ie, everything but 'Artificer' brand ones.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

shillshillshillshill
Learn a new word, poorfag. Again, I don't even use Citadel brushes. Don't use Citadel paints either (with the exception of washes and some technicals), don't use their tools either, or their terrain. That doesn't change the fact that they offer above-average brushes at a decent price. But yeah, whatever you gotta tell yourself so you don't feel bad for using generic crafts store garbage.

massdebater
massdebater

Orks December
Okay, this I can believe
and model release.
GW hates Orks, I can't see it.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

How much of a faggot am I if I want to start Space Wolves?
Any way to make them more like Vikings and less like the weird werewolf kid from high school?

Methnerd
Methnerd

You can get better quality for a cheaper price with even a cursory search on any internet store, shill. GW is overpriced. Begon shill.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

you can't avoid being a fag with them

Emberburn
Emberburn

Yes. I collect a lot of guns (both antique and modern). You constantly get butthurt faggots complaining about how "overpriced" FN Herstal or LWRC is because they can't afford their products. They will also claim they "aren't worth the money" despite never having fucking touched one or likely even seen one in person in their entire fucking lives.

There are only three certainties in life: death, taxes, and butthurt poorfags.

Emberfire
Emberfire

I think that 40k bitching is, per dollar, not that bad. Look at how pissy vidya nerds get over $5 DLC's.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Who is the creator of these images?

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BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Too bad he failed his save against that shitty paint job

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

mfw I started this brush argument with one post

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TechHater
TechHater

most troop choices are getting buffs across the board and each faction is getting thematic, competitive statagems.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

wasn't it some monstergirl fanfic with a random Krieger out of nowhere?

FastChef
FastChef

better quality
Like what? Go ahead and point me to said brushes and also provide some reviews for a comparison between the two. I have personally used Citadel brushes and they perfectly warrant a price tag of $8-$9.

JunkTop
JunkTop

MTG player

He'll be playing whatever netlist has won the most recent tournaments.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Reverse image search only shows old Veeky Forums threads

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Nojokur
Nojokur

Don't give a shit about what other people think, be a leader not a follower

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Illusionz
Illusionz

Cataphractii, Tartaros, or vanilla terminators?
and don't say none

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Ynari, if not for the diversity then for the netlist.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Truest words said in the thread so far.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Getting pissy about DLC has to do with the company policies though. Day 1 DLCs and shit like locking content that's already in the game behind a paywall is sketchy as fuck.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Cataphractii

massdebater
massdebater

5 minutes of googling shill.

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idontknow
idontknow

For punchy Kastellan Robots, what is a good unit size? Two sets of two, or one unit of four? Also what is a good cutoff for switching from Necromechanic trait to the Graia warlord trait? I like repairing, but don't know how useful that "shoot at enemies right next to you" trait is with all these vanguard. Though obviously when running 4 kastellans, 3 onager, and a knight necromechanic is pretty good.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

MtG is pretty bad too. once you start leaving modern and try dipping your toes into legacy decks, its average to have to drop near $300 to even make a relevant deck. Modernfags bitch hardcore about it to vintage/legacy fags.

I also own a lot of forgeworld stuff and it annoys OMG FW is so expensive, its cheating if you play it
opponent then proceeds to drop 8 valkyries and 6 manticores on the table and about a dozen chimeras

I set down my warhound titan and let the target practice begin

Methshot
Methshot

This image

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

This, I don't earn much by any means but I've never had a problem with GW/FW prices, if something is out of reach I just save for a week or two

SniperGod
SniperGod

In what way does that prove that those are the same quality as Citadel brushes, retard? I asked for a comparison between the two. You're saying that Citadel brushes are not worth the money compared to other choices. So go ahead and give me examples of other choices that perform better for a better price.

RumChicken
RumChicken

In my experience, staying up to date on standard is worse than any other format. I quite a while back but I saved the most money switching to modern and sticking to select few decks.

eGremlin
eGremlin

If you googled it you retarded shill, you'd see that there are reviews on the page directly comparing them to citadel brushes, saying the quality is the same for half the price.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Single Warlock held off 3 Tartaros terminators for 2 turns, killing a single one before the fist finally connected with his face.

Bloat drone tanked a potential 60 wounds worth of plasLas and Dread fists and didn't even budge a damage bracket, causing my opponent to concede on the spot.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

leader
play space yiffs
space yiffs suck, but the players are pretty alright. Play to the good parts of the theme.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

21 reviews

Bring me a brush with more reviews.

Why are we replying to this autist again?

Spamalot
Spamalot

It's not sketchy as fuck, it's price discrimination. Some people care a lot about the game, those people don't want to miss out on any content at all, and are willing to pay a high price for the game. Other people (most) care only a little, and aren't willing to pay such a high price for the game. Day 1 DLC's allow games manufacturers to charge each type of person based upon their willingness to pay, the people who care more about the game and are more willing to spend pay more because they also buy the DLC, the people who care less pay less because they don't buy the DLC.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_discrimination

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askme
askme

You're arguing with an obvious /v/ troll that doesn't play or participate in the hobby.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

You eat poop.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

give you exactly what you ask for
oh, better move those goalposts back again

Classic shill.

Flameblow
Flameblow

This is tabletop space soldier thread. take your DLC discussion to /v/

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

It's not sketchy as fuck, it's just a sleazy marketing tactic!
What a faggot. If you're honestly defending a company putting content into the game (oftentimes content that everyone wants and expects to be a part of the game, like the fucking Spartans in Rome II or Chaos in Total War Warhammer), and then locking said content behind a paywall, you are a peak consumerist cuckold.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Disregard this. I'm a huge faggot and can't read.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

tfw Sanguinius is still dead

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

It's the same thing that companies do when they charge different prices for movie tickets, or sell bulk at a discount. They've identified which subgroups of their consumer base are more or less willing to pay money and then charge those groups more or less. Don't be such a fucking baby about spending a few dollaridoos more because the company knows how much you want to buy their product.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Poor emps

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

can't even use Veeky Forums
Anyways, the guy you were likely trying to respond to wasn't even me. I don't give a shit about a bunch of nobody's on Amazon promising me that it's better, for all I know it's a bunch of faggots like you who are obsessed with Citadel. I want an actual review comparing different brush manufacturers and demonstrating extremely important qualities in a paintbrush, such as:
water retention
capillary effect
ease of maintenance
ability to hold a point
smoothness/coarseness of bristles
rebound
Etc. As I've said 50 times, I don't use Citadel brushes, and I don't care what brushes he uses. I'm just saying that $50 for the brushes Citadel offers is not that bad, especially since you get their texture tool which makes a handy sculptor for greenstuff. I USED to use Citadel brushes, and I was more than happy with their quality for what I paid. That's all I'm saying you stupid faggot.

askme
askme

why did you model them tripping over big green rocks?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

a few
The Battlefront season pass literally cost more than the base game.

Techpill
Techpill

tiberium is that you?

Flameblow
Flameblow

I want an actual review demonstrating these, not this word of mouth bullshit where I just have to take someone's word for it
take my word for it though, citadel brushes are worth every shek--- penny

Fuck off shill, the 21 people who left reviews are more credible than you.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Does anyone have an stl file of a space marine combat shield I can borrow?

Illusionz
Illusionz

Green rock kicking is a sport my dudes play! Also I love green rocks.

girlDog
girlDog

Good job on those minis dude

massdebater
massdebater

I think that would be a fair argument if developers didn't drastically alter reward curves or break immersion for real world currency. Games have moved away from being games in the last decade and are starting to merge with slot machines and trying to use all sorts of tricks to get a player to gamble away just one more loot crate.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Thanks man!

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JunkTop
JunkTop

2x2
necromechanic is a total waste of a trait. Monitor Malevolus or graia is good because of vanguards debuff aura.

Supergrass
Supergrass

adding chapters into my chart
metamarines, unknown origins
wait a minute
I already have them under ultramarines
Turns out lexicanums list has some errors, looked nicer than wikias though

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

GW brushes are 50 dollars EACH in NZ.

Fucking ludicrous.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Are Tau great again?

Snarelure
Snarelure

And yet people still buy them.

Skullbone
Skullbone

They're ok.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Why would you lie like this?

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

They're pretty good. Fire Warrior Spam is a legit thing now, you have drones that can deep strike directly into combat and tie up a lot of monstrous creatures or some tanks, and they've got a few ways to pull of jump shoot jump tactics.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

He's likely looking at the artificer ones.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Probably artificer

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

50 dollars is what the guy in the store quoted me. Fucking chink.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

chinks
money

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

being so retarded you get ripped off

come the fuck on.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

What about Crisis Suits? Are they good?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

I didn't say I bought it, ya dinus.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

No, they suck. You should get some good mileage out of a flamer spam unit though.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Given it's a reference to the word "Monkey" then it is probably "Mon-Key"

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Dawn of war has gone with the mok- kai pronunciation

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

her

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Yeah, they're super customizable now. You're going to want to have a few units with different purposes in any army really.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

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CodeBuns
CodeBuns

being a namefag and a total retard

What an unlikely combination!

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Nice. Time to pick up another box

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Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Chairman Xi will eat your dog for that comment.

iluvmen
iluvmen

find most expensive brush
complain it's expensive

Don't you hate how fire is hot?

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likme
likme

Dawn of War

TreeEater
TreeEater

They haven't really changed since 7th. Were they also bad then?

eGremlin
eGremlin

We Tempestus Scionanons again Scionanon?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I would like for once my favorite gun option for Orks to be fucking half viable.

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CodeBuns
CodeBuns

So I was looking at the Death Korps Index and I realised something. When GW FAQed the Commissars so Summary Execution wasn't OP, they had FW FAQ the Indexes as well.

But while they specified the standard Elysian and Krieg Commissars, they forgot to fix the Death Rider Commissar.

So RAW, the Death Rider Commissar still gives the old version of Summary Execution and thus only lets 1 model max run off to Morale.

This is an obvious oversight, though, so using it is WAAC as fuck and makes you an outrageous faggot.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

In 7th they could get Twin-linked and ignores cover. plasma was much better back then too. Now they're overcosted and T'au plasma sucks. You can take them, but they don't perform well in this edition.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Just getting into the game. Is dark imperium a good buy, or should I stick with start collecting packs?

King_Martha
King_Martha

Tau Plasma really needs to either be 30" Range or Damage 2 base. Otherwise it sucks arse.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Of course, that mother fucker is on a HORSE. You don't fuck with a guy on a horse user. That just makes sense.

askme
askme

You could just take Kurov's 45 and let your company commander do it for free.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

What do you plan to play? If you plan to play Space Marines, particularly Ultramarines, Dark Angels, Blood Angels or Imperial Fists (I think), this is an excellent and cheap place to start.

If you plan to play Death Guard, likewise. If you plan to play another faction, or want to use chapter specific shoulderpads for the marines, usually go for the start collecting boxes.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Cuckstodes are still a meme

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Skullbone
Skullbone

Boy, you'll love the Bork'an Signature System then!

SniperWish
SniperWish

Not if you play non-Valhallan or Death Korps

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

No one took twin linked in 7th, only double weapons

Cover works differently now, ignoring it isn't as big a boon

They seem fine to me

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Any good pics of the new Tau lore out yet?

Also what Sept am I looking for if I'm toting Railsides, Rail Pathfinders, fire warriors out the wazoo and some crisis dropping in on recon drones or stealthy bois?

JunkTop
JunkTop

what would tau pirates be like?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I think Damage 2 makes plasma what it is. The T'au codex already dropped the ball on giving them Damage 2 plasma however. I've heard good things about ion-accelerators on your suits if you have the bits.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Looking at blood angles or space wolfs. Thanks for the input.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Who else /shakyhands/ here? Really heartcrushing seeing peoples' beautifully painted armies. I mostly play Krieg though so the imperfections are easier to swallow.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Death Riders are honestly the best thing about DKoK.

Fast Melee units able to rip MEQs and TEQs apart. 5+ Feel No Pain against most basic weapons. 2 wounds. Able to take orders, 10" move.

Plus a Squadron Commander with the Burning Blade makes a great character killer for only 43 points.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

There was a support system that gave the squad TL. You could load up on guns and shoot them all with an effective BS. In 7th you could also use markerlights to boost your BS to 2+

If you want to run suits for the sake of running suits go ahead, I wont stop you. But they're not good by any stretch of the imagination.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Unless you've got an actual medical condition you should be able to mitigate shakiness by bracing your wrists together

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Like pirates, but then blue.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

You could rest your hands on the edge of the table whilst painting to steady them. Should work unless you're spastic or something

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

They're not as good as Tau players want them to be, but then anything that isn't 7th riptide wing isn't good enough in their eyes.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Space Wolf chapter transfers might be in the box, but you won't be able to use Space Wolf shoulderpads without filing them down, which is not a good start to the hobby. Same for blood angels, but they'll look fine with the transfers. The start collecting box for Blood Angels is a rubbish place to start, though.

viagrandad
viagrandad

planning to start 40k soon, but trying to decide between dark eldar or orks. anyone willing to redpill me on either one?

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Snarelure
Snarelure

Orks
Buy a hundred boyz
Play a hundred boyz

Dark Eldar
Buy 50 kabalites
And put them all in venoms
Learn to laugh in dark lance

Firespawn
Firespawn

redpill
/pol/

Flameblow
Flameblow

Deldar's codex comes out sooner and their models aren't ancient

((But they're so unpopular they might be getting rolled into Eldar and the Archon model looks like shit))

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Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I wot m8? You been up all night doing whippets again?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

You absolute madman. Archons are maybe the best looking model in the game. I'm thinking about running god awful huskblades just because it looks so pimp on him.

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PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I hate the stupid pose and the fact you have to see his fugly bald head. Deldar are supposed to be all about aesthetic and style but then you have Ron from the local pub as your HQ unit. And they got rid of this model for the new one.

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Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

But they're so unpopular they might be getting rolled into Eldar
You fucking what, they're already confirmed getting their own book and Craftworld Eldar is already out, the fuck are you even saying?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

you forgot the celestial guard

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MPmaster
MPmaster

Lets get this Kabal going aspiring Archon! Or are you a Wych cult kind of man? We’re here either way my dude.

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girlDog
girlDog

Yeah, that's a cool model, but if the head offends you so much, kitbash a helmet on. The model is great, it just had the misfortune to replace what might be the best model in GWs line.

w8t4u
w8t4u

I'm a covens man

iluvmen
iluvmen

Scourge privateers, daughters of Khaine, Hydra cult etc. are all seperate in AOS but they're all Delves. The recent Ynnead shit, prominence of Harlequins, Camorragh getting destroyed, Vect falling from power etc. points to a larger Aeldari faction and we've seen how GW deals with the more risque fluff by getting rid of Slaanesh. Plus the fact that Deldar barely sell.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Dark Eldar, easy. Our models are fucking GEORGEOUS, infinite <your dudes> potential, and we usually suck so if you're mot good at the game you can blame GW. If you're good at the game you can win and strut around the lgs with your dick out as King Turboautist.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

If they're getting 'rolled into Eldar' it's not going to be this edition. This edition rolled Harlequins out to be their own thing for gods sakes. Two boxes and a couple of clampacks.

RavySnake
RavySnake

New

veekyforums.com/thread/58505842/games
veekyforums.com/thread/58505842/games
veekyforums.com/thread/58505842/games

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Become me and do both

TechHater
TechHater

I hate that Archon, not just the bare head but the pose too.

This guy is a way cooler Archon

But of course the real patrician choice is to convert your own.

Spamalot
Spamalot

But they're so unpopular they might be getting rolled into Eldar

This hasn't been said anywhere but Veeky Forums memes

SniperGod
SniperGod

Tau

massdebater
massdebater

Whatever you like the aesthetics and fluff of more.
Dark Eldar are evil. interdimensional space pirates, and Orks are fungus gorillas with guns that literally live to fight.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Hmmm.

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