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Should I run cyclonic rift in yidris? Also how many boardwipes, if at all
James Gomez
Why wouldn't you ever run cyclonic rift? That card wins games.
Jordan Miller
Best deck for discard theme? Got a dude who hates discarding and red because they're against his patron saint Jace. I was gonna run good ol' Nicky B feat. Spectres but if there's something spicier out there that's cool too.
>thread question Well, I have a handful of pricey cards, more in my binder, but here are some notable things, organized by deck.
Venser: >mana crypt >force of will >blightsteel >mana drain >back to basics that spiked up today >transmute artifact >show and tell >foil FTV dark depths
Ghave, that I don't even play, runs: >Doubling Season >full fetches and shocks >damnation, if that still counts >dirty mike >revised demonic tutor
Brody Turner
self discard, other discard, or both?
Olivia, Mobilized for War is an excellent haste and discard engine for you.
Gwendolyn Di Corci is one of the cheapest grixis generals directly on point. The others are to costly mana wise for my taste. Nekusar is a meme, don't buy into it.
Jesus, I know my dinosaur deck is spotty almost all of that conversation wasn't me.
Separately >99 card deck >35+ cards are lands >Maybe 10 more cards are dedicated ramp of some kind >Half the deck accounted for before you even start building it
Samuel Gray
I wanna make everyone else dump their hand so I can do terrible nasty shit unimpeded. Ideally it'll be a load of discard with sacrifice-permanents removal so I can slam down cards with no responses.
Ideally I'd get a Chains of Mephistopheles to be cheeky with but I don't have that kind of money and I'm not allowed to proxy in my group.
Matthew Rogers
>What is the most valuable card in your deck? This stupid thing I guess, followed by Wheel.
It's mostly about color access then. None of the commander abilities themselves do what you want without jumping through a bunch of hoops. A grixis general would be best, if you have the mana base. What kind of budget are we working with here?
Nolan Turner
You want Nath.
Henry Turner
Dino's are pretty overcosted, you want a 37 land deck including your ramp and shit. You want rocks for days too. Tribal decks are easy to build, hard to get right unless the commander is bonkers like Edgar. Something that's super important in decks like Gishath is library ordering. You want to manipulate the top of your deck so your commander gets actual value out of that 8 mana. Scroll rack is great. Ideally you want to fetch as many lands as possible to remove dead draws from your deck, and anthems to protect your creatures.
I'm going to play this on commander saturday, I'll probably change Iona to some other angel if it turns out to be too oppressive (the group is usually pretty casual)
Andrew Nelson
>monowhite >average cmc over 4 >ironic weeb Kill yourself.
Hudson Scott
>You have the potential to +6 yourself and dump your opponents hands with Wheel of Fortune Is this reason why people let this slide is because Red has such shit card draw or is it becaue it can be a double edged sword like Goblin Guide where it can also help your opponents?
Juan Torres
Yeah I'm realistic, I know I'm not getting one commander that does everything, I'm just asking which commander is best for the archetype. I don't have a lot of money for paper but I'd be testing it extensively tappedout or xmage first, to see if I enjoy it outside of fucking with my doofus friend.
Nath looks good, but I've watched enough Elfball to happily never see it again. I'd rather forever play vs at least one sliver deck if it meant no more Elves.
Joshua Howard
What the fuck are you asking? Yes Wheel of Fortune is a good card, hence why it's banned in Legacy and Restricted in Vintage.
Ian Morris
Wheel and looting effects are how red draws. It's a mechanic that has parallels to the chaotic and explosive nature of the colours. It's also the way red interacts with other peoples instants and sorceries outside of blue ones hehehe, by attempting to remove threats before they appear.
Wheel is strong but definitely balanced despite having a high possiblity of being asymmetrical due to your opponents drawing 7 also, yes.
Tyler Johnson
Eh, monowhite gives me the willies. Unless you're running ALL the colourless card draw and ramp, you're going to have a bad time.
Still, seems like it could be fun. I'd suggest a top, scroll rack, and an artifact recursion package with sun titan to tune things up, but it looks solidly precon-tier.
Luis Cox
noob here, why is mono-white a bad strategy?
Jason Roberts
All card games are about Card Advantage and White is the absolute worst color at getting any value out of a card.
Jaxon Anderson
Colour doesn't lend itself to getting card advantage or ramping very well outside of Land Tax, of course
Aaron Butler
graveyard hate is pretty rare in my meta so far, so man plan is to get altar of dementia out and then sac angels in response to removal/wraths, filling my graveyard with creatures to recur with bruna
Gonna see if card draw gonna be a problem in my group if it is a big deal, I'll probably add those cards
>cEDH players
Samuel Jenkins
It's not a bad strategy, I'm just a shameless blue fag so I'm a bit spoiled. Monowhite is HEAVILY reliant on stax effects because it doesn't have a lot of innate card advantage or mana acceleration. It's arguably the best support colour in the game because it can exile anything, and has some impressive hate effects, but many metas dislike destroying lands, or slapping down a static orb and elesh norn.
If you're going to win in monowhite, you do it in one of three ways: >Konda equipment tribal, relying on your 1cmc commander to wreck a table before it can be dealt with >Hokiri style stax, stuffed to the brim with MLD and various orbs, designed to fuck everyone but you >Sram cheerios, where you draw your whole deck and slap it on him to win the game
I usually run monowhite as monobrown with a splash of white, and while it's distinctly worse than splashing red or blue, it can hate out literally anything.
Christopher Mitchell
Are any of the Maguses good in EDH?
Alexander Lopez
I think endless horizons is pretty fun card, if it's late you can empty your deck of lands, if it's early you can exile a few plains, and politics it into "are you gonna use removal on something that'll be nothing in a few turns, or remove that guys doubling season?"
Is there anything else i can do with omnath other than "Play mana and things that make omnath unblockable and untargetable.dec"? I love omnath, I love his mechanic but playing with him makes me feel bad because he's just that good and also kinda single-note.
Yes? Almost all of them. I particularly like Magus of the Abyss, Magus of the Wheel, Magus of the Disk, and Magus of the Moon.
Eli Watson
>my gameplan is to play a card I will see on average once in forty turns to give my seven drop commander more value even though on average I'll first be able to cast her on turn 15
Jack Taylor
You could try posting this every thread even though you've already been answered.
Elijah Thomas
I would recommend Jeleva, or Kess in grixis. Obviously neither is directly on theme, but they each have their advantages, and can be scaled to be as competitive as you want. Jeleva is extremely disruptive, and Kess allows you to be much more resilient to disruption yourself.
In monoblack, Toshiro Umezawa, or Xiahou-Dun, the One Eyed both offer enormous resiliency, and are quite fun (Toshiro Umezawa is my favorite commander of all time, so I'm quite biased here). Also, directly on theme, and potentially exploitable are He Who Hungers and Sanity's Eclipse. Sanity's Eclipse is overcosted for my tastes (I tend to not play commanders with CMC>4), but offers a rare ability for a discard focused deck: instant speed hand disruption. Of course, it also exiles, which can have some antisynergy with your own reanimation, but also prevents their reanimation, so that's a mixed bag based on your taste.
Grayson Wright
melding is just a bonus but nothing i'll go for, there's plenty of other strong angels/humans to recur with the on cast effect
Easton Hill
How can we break this motherfucker? I'm thinking lots of cheap artifacts and
He goes infinite but not without jumping through numerous hoops without hoop tutors and there aren't enough cards at 3cmc or less in white that can win a game on their own.
Camden Rivera
what's your point mate?
Cooper Carter
I think Oblivion Sower is a pretty fun card, because it turns into a 20 mana ritual when I play with people like you.
Jack Edwards
Mono G storm.
Ethan Roberts
Consider that in an effort to make ends meet you are shredding $500 bills to make confetti art in the hopes of getting displayed at some low end art gallery downtown.
That is what your gameplan is.
Thomas Robinson
Nath is all you want
Jaxson Wright
yeah, my group tends to like having fun
Ethan Torres
Nath is not elfball and only runs a few for ramp purpose. Nath is a control / stax deck.
William Miller
>I think Oblivion Sower is a pretty fun card, because it turns into a 20 mana ritual when I play with people like you.
If fun is not being able to play cards until turn seven because your average cmc is over 4 and you have neither ramp nor card draw and not being able to cast your commander and actually play the game until turn 15 maybe you shouldn't be having fun.
Zachary Scott
Okay then, how would you build a non-combo deck around him?
Nolan Lee
competitive multiplayer EDH is a ton of fun user! Even in casual circles though, there's nothing wrong with making the correct play to win the game.
Chase Kelly
>Konda
as in the dog?
Easton Wood
I wouldn't.
Just include lots of eggs you moron.
Adam White
Yes sir. An user posted a very good list here a while ago, and I've been playing it for a while. Shit's fun.
Liam Myers
>needing card draw >in casual games
this is not the table for you user
Carson Robinson
I'm the Marath asshole. I have a Congregation at Dawn, but didn't put it in since Gishath was just in my 99.
>fetch So, I should keep Ranging Raptors after all, and maybe put Krosan Verge back in. Verge seemed like a worse tapfetch than Grasslands.
I do have Cryptolith Rite. Is that better or worse with dinosaurs than the other 2 drop rocks?
Anthony Martin
Magus of the Abyss is my nigga.
Andrew Allen
It's very sad compared to a plain old Phyrexian Arena
This is easily in the top 10 sexiest cards in the game. I love the card and Masques foils are kino but I can't justify spending $200 on it while there are cards whose cheapest printing costs $200 that I don't have.
The opponents still draw 7. It's an extremely powerful card but you're acting like it doesn't also provide opponents with free cards in most situations.
They're going to blackwash every single iconic card, even when it was asian to being with aren't they?
Samuel Martin
There are 4 threads for you to talk about this, and none of them are this one. Talk about commander, the cards, mechanics, or various greentext stories, don't start this shit.
Oliver Morales
probably jace the mind sculptor in teferi followed doubling season in riku and newzuri
Andrew Garcia
If anyone plays this guy without LED, Lotus Petal, Auriok Salvagers, and Treasure Hunter then they're bad players. Play those, stuff like this and it should end up being able to combo off in many different combinations.
Thomas Campbell
You seem pretty butthurt.
Isaiah Roberts
This, tired of politics derailing every thread on every fucking board.
Jose Parker
Yup, now fuck off.
Xavier Campbell
how?
Ayden Morgan
Seconding. EDH is total neutral ground. We have to have somewhere to be the calm in the eye of the storm. and that's coming from an esoteric /pol/ack, in case that matters.
John Powell
Does your group allow player rewards cards with no rules text on them?
